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PSA: Apple's iPhone X Screen Repair Will Cost You $279 (macrumors.com)

We already know the iPhone X is expensive: it starts at $999 for the 64GB variant. But what about the cost of a screen replacement? If you don't have the extended warranty, a screen replacement will cost you $279, which is more than twice the price of an iPhone 6 screen replacement ($129) and about 65 percent higher than a new iPhone 8 screen ($169). MacRumors reports: In the United States, Apple will charge flat rates of $279 for iPhone X screen repairs and $549 for any other damage to the device, unless it is a manufacturing defect covered by Apple's standard one-year limited warranty. The fees vary in other countries, such as Australia, Canada, Germany, and the United Kingdom.

-Australia: $419 for screen repairs, $819 for other damage
-Canada: $359 for screen repairs, $709 for other damage
-Germany: 321 Euros for screen repairs, and 611 Euros for other damage
-United Kingdom: 286 British Pounds for screen repairs, 556 British Pounds for other damage
-United States: $279 for screen repairs, $549 for other damage

These prices do not apply to customers who purchase AppleCare+ for the iPhone X, which costs $199 upfront in the United States. AppleCare+ is an optional warranty plan that extends an iPhone's coverage to two years from the original purchase date of the device. The plan adds up to two incidents of accidental damage coverage, each subject to a lower service fee of $29 for screen repairs, or $99 for any other damage.

144 comments

  1. Ridiculous by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Some of us earn $50,000 a year in IT in Silicon Valley. We aren't all millionaires here.

    1. Re:Ridiculous by itamihn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know you don't need to buy a high-end phone, right? I am perfectly happy with my medium-range Android phone.

    2. Re:Ridiculous by lucm · · Score: 0

      How do you do that? You only work during summer?

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    3. Re:Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make it seem like some kind of class system. You know that some of us could easily afford Apple crap phones but prefer Android phones, right?

    4. Re:Ridiculous by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Even the iPhone 8 which is about the same in performance is much cheaper too. Also 50k in silicon valley, you may want to reevaluate your location for work. You can make the same amount in areas that the cost of living is 25% of Silicon Valley.

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    5. Re:Ridiculous by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      That $129 iPhone SE is a pretty good deal. Cheaper than AppleCare on that iPhone X.

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    6. Re:Ridiculous by itamihn · · Score: 1

      $129 is really cheap indeed, even for Chinese Android standards. Is that the full price, or is that just the initial price and monthly instalments aside?

    7. Re:Ridiculous by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Some of us earn $50,000 a year in IT in Silicon Valley. We aren't all millionaires here.

      At least you're not still on a 9600 baud dial-up connection in Seattle, you Silicon Valley showoffs with your high salaries and your fast internets...

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    8. Re:Ridiculous by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Check Walmart.

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    9. Re:Ridiculous by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Seattle has 9600 baud now?

    10. Re:Ridiculous by antdude · · Score: 1

      And you don't have to work in SV. :P

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    11. Re:Ridiculous by gravewax · · Score: 1

      Then you shouldn't actually be buying an iPhone in the first place. These prices are insane, but compared to the actual cost they are reasonable, at that income you should have no repair trouble as you should not have an current version iPhone.

    12. Re:Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are an idiot if you accepted $50K for IT work in Silicon Valley. The last time I made that salary was back in 1994 and I was a junior software quality engineer. I asked our MIS director the going rate for junior level IT staff (system and network admins) and she said they generally start at $35 per hour ($70K annually) plus benefits, and they pick up some overtime during the year especially for coverage during company holidays.

      The only way $50K makes sense is if your working for a small non-profit, but you are still being ripped off and I recommend finding a better paying job.

    13. Re:Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are the old 16GB and 32GB models and carrier locked for prepaid plans from Straight Talk, Simple Mobile, and Total Wireless. That is why they are only $129.

    14. Re: Ridiculous by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      why would you not...buy an extended warranty. you get what you invest in. silicon valley is stuck @ 50k. im glad i live in az where 73k is borderline in the real money world.

    15. Re: Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple continues to push the threshold of price pain. What do we see? Rising stock prices..... How do we get there? Exploit the consumer.

    16. Re: Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you come from 1996 to see what the future was like?

    17. Re:Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know you can buy the phone you want, and I can buy the phone I want, right?

  2. Outrageous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next folks are going to say that the parts on expensive cars are expensive too!

    1. Re:Outrageous by coastwalker · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Smartphones are mass produced using robots from commodity parts, they are not custom built cars. It should be possible for the "teardown" community to establish what Apple are paying for the screens and what they are charging for the screen swop. From this information one should be able to make an informed comment on whether the charges are reasonable.

      I will note that the cheapest smartphone on the market probably has 90% of the functionality of a high end gadget like an Apple smartphone. I believe that it is mostly snobbery keeping Apple in the manner to which it has become accustomed these days.

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    2. Re:Outrageous by omnichad · · Score: 1

      There are lots of expensive cars that are not custom-built. Almost all of them made in factories with the help of robots.

    3. Re:Outrageous by burtosis · · Score: 1

      Parent poster was looking for a car analogy. They meant to say "whelp, looks like I'm buyin' anything but OEM parts on this puppy...". iPhone, the Jaguar of phones.

    4. Re:Outrageous by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 0

      iPhone, the Buick of phones.

    5. Re:Outrageous by Presence+Eternal · · Score: 2

      It is indeed a marvel that you can buy a prepaid smartphone for a subsidized price of ten bucks, but I dunno about the very cheapest having 90% functionality. I've bought a few, and they're usually Android 4, missing important radio bands, and have a screen resolution better suited to waffle irons.

    6. Re: Outrageous by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Itâ(TM)s estimated that the screens cost something like $120-130 each. Given that, the cost to consumer ratio isnâ(TM)t entirely out of line with previous models. Samsung is the only one that can make this screen, so theyâ(TM)re milking it for what they can.

    7. Re: Outrageous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The notch, which houses the FaceID hardware, is considered part of the screen. Also, the replacement price includes labor.

    8. Re:Outrageous by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Next folks are going to say that the parts on expensive cars are expensive too!

      Show me a car that refuses to run because you installed an off-brand window

    9. Re:Outrageous by bankman · · Score: 1

      Show me a car that refuses to run because you installed an off-brand window.

      Expect to see this in the very near future. Batteries are the first to come to mind and you can easily extend it to everything electronic. Modular construction make it really easy to justify this. Take the late model BMW E39 5 Series for example. Say you have a malfunctioning center console display, the one you need to operate the onboard computer, radio, navigation and block heater. You can't fall back an older system or a third party device because they are not compatible. You need to buy the completely overpriced original part, if you're lucky refurbished costs you half price. Now let's say the navigation computer is broken too. You think, what the hell, you don't need it anyway since you have Google Maps or HereWeGo which are a lot better. Sadly, the navigation computer is necessary to give you the graphical interface. In short: The car industry has been working in this direction for a long time now and this will only increase.

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    10. Re:Outrageous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BMW's are so lame. Accord styling for Vette prices. Every lower tier model is just a constant reminder that you're not driving a higher end BMW model. Components that needlessly break down and cost 3-4x as much to replace as other manufacturers. Anybody who looks around can see there are cooler, faster, more luxurious, more reliable and more sporty than BMWs. Yet people are so smug in their attachment. Sounds like certain cell phone manufacturers...

      My roommate is dating a man-child who is about 10 years younger than she. He is finally having some luck holding down full time work despite sleeping on his grandmother's couch. He didn't have a car at the beginning of his relationship. I think he was feeling inferiority about not being able to take her out on dates and overcompensated by buying a BMW that couldn't be over 5 years old... Full time minimum wage sleeping on your grandma's couch and you buy BMW (probably on debt), then go and finance rims and a tint job? I laugh at you in my head every day, loser. My used Honda Fit may look 10x lamer but at least it gets me everywhere I want to go with much lower repair/maintenance/gas/insurance costs.

    11. Re: Outrageous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. Although I've never had a problem buying a used version if last year's flagship for 300-400 and keeping it for 3 years.

      New phones are like new cars..... they just depreciate too quickly.

    12. Re:Outrageous by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      iPhone is the Buick of phones.

  3. Not if you have AppleCare... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    If you have AppleCare you can get a few repairs for free... or if anything else goes wrong.

    For the 8 I would say people could probably skip AppleCare, but for a really new model like the X it's probably worthwhile to have the extra insurance.

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    1. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have AppleCare you can get a few repairs for free... or if anything else goes wrong.

      For the 8 I would say people could probably skip AppleCare, but for a really new model like the X it's probably worthwhile to have the extra insurance.

      If more idiots who spend $1000 on a phone would spend $50 on a decent case, we wouldn't be having discussions about ass-raping prices for screen repairs.

    2. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Apple Care is now the baseline tax if you want any semblance of service.
      If you want good service you pay for Apple Care+, or you make repeated visits to the Apple Store until you get lucky.

    3. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I've had pretty good service on Apple device even without AppleCare. But it is true they are more likely to cut you a break if there's any question, or comp you a replacement device if you have AppleCare.

      Like I said, for devices that are pretty baked in like the 8 or 7, I don't think it's needed. But for any newer model it's good insurance and it's not like it provides no value, unlike warranties from other manufacturers which may mean nothing (hello, LG).

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    4. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Genius. The smartphone manufacturers spend millions of dollars figuring our how to make a nice, thin phone. And what do you do? Stick it in a case that makes it thick again. Great.

    5. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      OR you could live in a country that has decent consumer protection laws.

      For a "fault" in NZ with an iPhone I would expect that you could claim under the consumer guarantees act for 3-4 years
      If you drop it, thats what household insurance is for, excess for me would be NZ$100.

      However, given that my old 4S still works as does the 5S and SE I don't actually foresee any issues except the purchase price.

      Android has become "good enough" now for my use so in a year or two (when Android is even better) I will probably migrate across.

    6. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Genius. The smartphone manufacturers spend millions of dollars figuring our how to make a nice, thin phone. And what do you do? Stick it in a case that makes it thick again. Great.

      Maybe we don't care about a thin phone.
      Maybe we don't want our phone to be so slippery that we drop the damn thing.
      Maybe we want it to survive a minor fall.
      Maybe the phone manufacturers aren't actually providing what a lot of customers want.

    7. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Android has become "good enough" now for my use so in a year or two (when Android is even better) I will probably migrate across.

      Apple's phones have been "bad enough" that I haven't owned one in years.

      People like you will probably just keep buying iPhones though, and occasionally saying how you're willing to buy an Android phone when they get a little better.

    8. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      With the device like the iPhone X which really packs a lot of expensive components together, with Apple still having mass production problems. It isn't too crazy to expect that replacement costs can be expensive. Apple Care insurance is probably worth it for such a new device. As Apple also had covered some manufacture defects from new devices as well.

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    9. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by bankman · · Score: 1

      With the device like the iPhone X which really packs a lot of expensive components together, with Apple still having mass production problems. It isn't too crazy to expect that replacement costs can be expensive. Apple Care insurance is probably worth it for such a new device.

      Just to understand this, because their components are flawed and their manufacturing is less than impressive, it makes sense to buy additional insurance to protect from inflated repair costs for their overpriced devices? Yeah, that really makes sense... *facepalm*

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    10. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      OR you could live in a country that has decent consumer protection laws.

      For a "fault" in NZ with an iPhone I would expect that you could claim under the consumer guarantees act for 3-4 years
      If you drop it, thats what household insurance is for, excess for me would be NZ$100.

      You think it isn't already baked into the price of the phone? Trust me, you're already paying for the "optional" extended warranty. They just built it into the price.

      It's why everyone complains prices are so high - after currency conversions, VAT and extended warranties, it turns out the prices end up being more comparable to the US prices.

      TINSTAAFL. If your laws say you have 10 years of warranty service, don't be surprised when you're paying jacked up prices for goods. It's just building in the cost of extended warranties into the price of the good itself.

      Grey market goods also generally don't have a warranty outside their zone - well, the manufacturer will honor it, but you have to ship it back to the country it was sold for.

    11. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This summarizes my biggest problem with Apple designs. I don't care about function taking a back seat to form but I will never pay extra for products whose functionality actually suffers for form.

    12. Re: Not if you have AppleCare... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $200 for two years plus deductible is a rip off.

    13. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Please give a device that won't cause a flame war? A device where no one has had problems with, comes with all the features that everyone wants, and priced so low that buying it would be a no brainer?

      Heck I would like to find any mass produced item that can meet your criteria. Unless you want to pay $10,000 for a phone for the same features, by hand crafted by professional phoners who will take a good month putting all the parts together and making sure everything works, and every build detail it perfect. You probably should deal with paying a grand for a phone that should be well above average in terms of quality, and pay for insurance in case you break it.

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    14. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by Altrag · · Score: 1

      Customers want "OMG Shiny and new! Show off time!"

      That's not necessarily the same as what they need. Unfortunately people are dumb, as a species, and we tend to prioritize buying things we want over things we need. And manufacturers know that.

    15. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had an Apple genius spend about an hour with me trying to diagnose an issue on a 5 year old MacBook, free of cost, which I hadn't purchased Apple Care for. Seems like pretty good service to me.

    16. Re:Not if you have AppleCare... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Apple Care, like all insurance, is priced so that it will be a loss for the average person. The only times you should buy insurance are when you can't afford a loss (a house fire, for example, or injuring someone in an auto accident) or when you think the insurance is underpriced. If you can spend $200 for a year of protection, you can almost certainly replace your iPhone X if you have to.

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  4. Librem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So looking forward to upgrading my phone to freedom.
    My iphone 6 has gone the way of my phones before it. This new iOS has taken a big dump on performance as well as the general ui fuckups. Calc is fucking plagued with issues! Just crazy.

    1. Re:Librem by lucm · · Score: 0

      What's just crazy is that you kept buying iPhones.

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    2. Re:Librem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For a long while the ui was dead easy to navigate and support. It has become a work tool now for calls and emails only. Crazy, yeah, but android really aint that much better... infact from a support perspective, they really really suck with agenda pushing carriers.

    3. Re: Librem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Calc is fucking plagued with issues!

      Ha! So obviously a troll
      (and yes, I know that Calc, the built-in, very basic calculator app, doesn't register a button press until the UI has finished animating the previous button press).
      You should try to be a bit more subtle if you really want to do this trolling thing.

  5. It's a fair price... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...considering each pixel has to be hand painted by hand.
    The Chinese are very cheap labour and skilled, but even
    that task is very time-consuming.

    CAP === 'automata'

    1. Re:It's a fair price... by sexconker · · Score: 3, Funny

      considering each pixel has to be hand painted by hand.

      And here I thought they were hand painting them by foot!

    2. Re:It's a fair price... by tonique · · Score: 2

      Four phones at a time, with a paintbrush in each hand and foot.

  6. Expensive phone, expensive screen by Kohath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You expected your $1k phone to have a cheap screen?

    If you want to save money on your phone, don’t buy the most expensive phone available.

    1. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      You expected your $1k phone to have a cheap screen?

      If you want to save money on your phone, don’t buy the most expensive phone available.

      You obviously don't know what you are talking about. A $1k phone is not the most expensive phone available. I preordered the 256GB version today and I can assure you that it's more than $1k.

      But yeah, this article is lame. Expensive phone is expensive.

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    2. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by sexconker · · Score: 1

      You expected your $1k phone to have a cheap screen?

      If you want to save money on your phone, don’t buy the most expensive phone available.

      To be fair, the Pixel 2 XL's screen is hard at work conditioning people to exactly that.
      Get your shit together, LG. You make the best 4K OLED TV panels but you can't maintain any consistency for phones? Someone needs to step up and kill Samsung's stranglehold on that market.

    3. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You expected your $1k phone to have a cheap screen?

      If you want to save money on your phone, don’t buy the most expensive phone available.

      Yep, it's better to just break the lightning connector; that'll only cost $549 flat rate to repair

    4. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by Gr8Apes · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think it's funny that they expect the OLED screen to be cheap. It's probably the single most expensive thing on the phone.

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    5. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Get your shit together, LG. You make the best 4K OLED TV panels but you can't maintain any consistency for phones? Someone needs to step up and kill Samsung's stranglehold on that market.

      I guess it's a different skillset to make phone screens over TV panels. What's funny is that Samsung doesn't make OLED TVs.

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    6. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Informative

      The newer Samsung Note screens are even more expensive to replace, at $300 a pop. This is because they're using the Samsung Pen/Wacom technology. Even the S8 screen seems to be super expensive for some reason. I have no idea why, maybe it's because of its curved screen? Maybe that's "the next big thing" to manufacture a screen that is as fragile as a Doritos chip and that is super expensive to replace.

    7. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by sexconker · · Score: 1

      They're going all in on QLED. They even market their shit as QLED when it's not. What are they going to do if they actually make QLED panels? Super Ultra QLED? (They previously jumped the gun on UHD specs, called their 4K sets "UHD", and then had to go with "SUHD" for 4K sets that did HDR10 once specs settled.)

    8. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will never understand why anyone feels the need to advertise the fact that they're incapable of spending money wisely.

    9. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      TBH, QLED does appear to be better than regular LED, but that's like choosing between being crapped on by an elephant or a hippo.

      LED has significant challenges that tech likely cannot overcome, at least not easily nor cost effectively.

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    10. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by MrL0G1C · · Score: 1

      The screen on my new $100 for work android phone looks great, it's very bright, snappy and the battery lasts 2 days. On my 46inch TV I'd notice a small difference between 1080p and 4k. On my 6ish inch phone I really don't think I'd notice any difference with an increase in resolution beyond 720x1280.

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    11. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      The screen on my new $100 for work android phone looks great, it's very bright, snappy and the battery lasts 2 days.

      And what, pray tell, is the screen on your $100 android phone? I'd guess some sort of lower DPI LCD screen?

      On my 46inch TV I'd notice a small difference between 1080p and 4k.

      On 55-70 inch screens, I definitely notice a difference between an LG 4K OLED and any LCD screen you'd care to name. I haven't gotten to see their 77" $9K screen yet.

      On my 6ish inch phone I really don't think I'd notice any difference with an increase in resolution beyond 720x1280.

      You probably wouldn't notice much higher DPI beyond a 30% increase in resolution or so, but you certainly would notice a difference between OLED and LCD.

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    12. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by MrL0G1C · · Score: 1

      "but you certainly would notice a difference between OLED and LCD."

      I expect I would, my screen is likely a lot easier to read outdoors on a sunny day. And unlike LGs latest OLED it's not suffering from really bad burn-in.

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    13. Re: Expensive phone, expensive screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look up the specs for the ancient 2015 Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and WEEP! It beats anything crApple has ever made ... even the iPhoneX wit it's Samsung screen... AND it is still getting updates from Samsung

    14. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      The newer Samsung Note screens are even more expensive to replace, at $300 a pop. This is because they're using the Samsung Pen/Wacom technology. Even the S8 screen seems to be super expensive for some reason.

      That's nothing new, the DIY replacement screens for Samsung's high end phones have cost more than a full replacement at Apple for years.

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    15. Re: Expensive phone, expensive screen by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      I happen to have one. It's "ok" but I don't like it much. As for updates, Samsung may be providing updates, but AT&T, for one, stopped at 6.0, provided you're still on their network.

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    16. Re:Expensive phone, expensive screen by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      LG's OLEDs phone screens appear to have numerous issues, not just burn in. Their TVs do not have these issues.

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  7. PSA: This Isn't Reddit by sexconker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    PSA: Only idiots on Reddit label mildly-informative and highly-specific shit with "PSA".

    1. Re:PSA: This Isn't Reddit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck is PSA?

    2. Re:PSA: This Isn't Reddit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Public Safety Announcement? Welcome to planet Earth. We have Google too now.

    3. Re:PSA: This Isn't Reddit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prostate specific antigen. The iPhone measures it when you put the phone in your butt

    4. Re:PSA: This Isn't Reddit by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Public SERVICE Announcement. Use Bing.

    5. Re:PSA: This Isn't Reddit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This Isn't Reddit

      Give it time. This place is always up for sale.

    6. Re:PSA: This Isn't Reddit by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Prostate Specific Antigen. I guess Bing is letting me know that I should be going to a doctor for a yearly fingering.

    7. Re:PSA: This Isn't Reddit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You know what the worst bit about a prostate exam is?

      It's when they realise you're not a real doctor.

    8. Re:PSA: This Isn't Reddit by ImprovOmega · · Score: 1

      Whoah there turbo!

      Idiots on Fark.com also misuse the term PSA. Let's not limit the hate to just the biggest players!

    9. Re:PSA: This Isn't Reddit by sexconker · · Score: 1

      You know what the worst bit about a prostate exam is?

      It's when they realise you're not a real doctor.

      No, it's when they realize you're not a real prostate.

  8. Makes sense by lucm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple and Oracle are in the same situation. They lost relevance a long time ago and are just milking their existing customers.

    Stop giving money to those greedy corporations. If they starve maybe it will force them to get back to work and innovate for real.

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    1. Re:Makes sense by turp182 · · Score: 1

      You forgot IBM, they came up with this business model a couple of decades before your examples; yours are still relevant of course, and appreciated.

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  9. A fool and their money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Companies innovate and compete to gain market share but once growth slows they become lazy and exploit the "loyal customers" who continue to cling to and defend them with an irrational loyalty. Is that Apple?

  10. All of you: THINK like a marketer... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Folks w/ the coin to buy into iPhone (imo, many ways a better choice - kudos to their UI) don't care - they are PORSCHE mentality (upwardly mobile imo).

    * The "money gap"? It's BIG for a reason - like Studio 54's doorcharge was.

    (That's Apple's "target market" - the area they are influences it. high cost, very much so (realestate))

    APK

    P.S.=> Get it? They don't care... apk

  11. WOW by Woldscum · · Score: 3, Informative

    A brand new unlocked Moto 5s plus 32GB is $279 on Motorola's website right now..

    1. Re:WOW by blindseer · · Score: 1

      Are you suggesting I buy one of those to use while I wait for my iPhone X to get fixed?

      People that are willing to spend a kilobuck on a computer that will fit in a (perhaps oversized) pocket are not, in my experience, the kind that will worry too much about the cost to replace a screen. They'll likely have two phones just for situations like this, such as hang on to their "old" iPhone 8 as a backup. Quite likely they'll be willing to pay that $279 upfront on an insurance plan of some sort, Apple or third party, so that they can have their phone fixed ASAFP if it gets broken. Once the phone gets to be a year or two old then they are just waiting for it to get broken so that they can justify to their spouse spending money for getting a new one.

      Once people get to the point of spending $1000 on a phone they aren't likely to go back to something that costs 1/4 of that, barring some financial difficulty. Or, in the case of some people I know, a long history of breaking and/or losing phones so they get "cheap throw away" phones for $300 instead of a much nicer $1000 one.

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    2. Re: WOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      16g moto 5 on Amazon for $180

    3. Re:WOW by bankman · · Score: 1

      The G5 is even cheaper (and smaller, but I seem to be in a minority, looking for a usable phone with a screen that's 5''), also runs a close to stock Android and if you wish, is easily rootable and has (unofficial) support for LineageOS.

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    4. Re:WOW by MrL0G1C · · Score: 1

      Fugly though, my $100 Chinese phone looks a lot nicer than that.

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    5. Re:WOW by toddestan · · Score: 1

      It's a bit old school in the sense that the screen doesn't go all the way to the edge and has a bezel around it. And it also has a plastic case. This means it's a heck of a lot more durable than the iPhone or the stuff Samsung makes nowadays, and you're a lot less likely to have to fork hundreds of dollars to fix an easily breakable screen on a device you're going to be carrying around with you a lot. Besides, who cares what it looks like if you're going to be putting it in a case anyway.

    6. Re:WOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right. Im totally at the 100k car range and im ok with 1/4th the price for replacing something fragile. Or paying 1/5th the price for warranty againts that happening im 2 years to pay just 1/20th of the price instead of 1/4th. Barring some financial difficulties.

  12. Here's a Pro tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Here's a Pro tip: Don't treat your $1000 item like a $20 item.

    1. Re:Here's a Pro tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better buy a pillow case if you don't want the screen to crack when you drop it.

    2. Re:Here's a Pro tip by MrL0G1C · · Score: 1

      Pro-tip:
      If you have less than $20,000 in savings then don't buy this phone.

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  13. 1 Year warranty by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    In all of the EU, the warranty will be 2 years, even in GB, for now.

    1. Re:1 Year warranty by Teun · · Score: 1

      Indeed and that's the minimum.
      In most countries there are further laws extending the warranty to a typically expected lifetime.
      Especially at this price that'll be more than the minimum 2 years.

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    2. Re:1 Year warranty by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      In all of the EU, the warranty will be 2 years, even in GB, for now.

      And it will cover a whole lot more than manufacturing errors. In fact those are covered perpetually, and have nothing to do with warranty.

    3. Re:1 Year warranty by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      In all of the EU, the warranty will be 2 years, even in GB, for now.

      Careful. Warranty is whatever the manufacturer decides, in this case 1 year. In addition, you have consumer protection laws, which mean that the _seller_, not the manufacturer, is responsible that the product should work for a reasonable amount of time. And for phones someone seems to have decided that two years is a reasonable amount of time.

      When you say "for now": EU law says that Apple has to provide the same warranty everywhere in the EU. So that won't apply to the UK anymore in 2019. And I think if Apple is the seller (not just manufacturer), then any Apple Store in the EU will count as "seller" and have to fix problems; that won't apply to the UK anymore in 2019.

    4. Re:1 Year warranty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Warranty is whatever the manufacturer decides,"

      Fuck off back to America, we don't need that shit here thank you very much.

  14. Fight big brother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember Apple is fighting big brother so fuck you and get a real job you worthless slacker.

  15. Supply and Demand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's not forget that there is a shortage of these displays.

  16. Lessee by Snotnose · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Phone costs $1k. No headphone jack. No SDCC card. Phone is in Apple's walled garden. Cost to repair a fairly common failure is $259.

    Remind me again why I would buy one of these things?

    1. Re:Lessee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it fits your use case. I know that is a difficult concept for shitheads like you to understand, but please try.

    2. Re: Lessee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The walled garden is a selling point. Android is a disgusting dump of spyware, malware, phishing scams, and broken apps. Enjoy Russian hackers watching you sleep and Google (a branch of the NSA) listening in on every convo.

    3. Re: Lessee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The walls don't keep us in; they keep you out.

    4. Re:Lessee by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Remind me again why I would buy one of these things?

      If you have to ask then you'll never be one of the "cool" people.

    5. Re:Lessee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You wouldn't.
      Remind me again why your buying habits are relevant to mine?

    6. Re:Lessee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The "I'm vain and I need a $1000 phone to show off how cool, rich, and important I am" use case, no doubt.

    7. Re:Lessee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remind me again why I would buy one of these things?

      Because the consumer wants one and they have money to do whatever they want with it?

  17. This is free if you live in New Zealand by ukoda · · Score: 1

    If you buy it in New Zealand then don't bother with extended warranties etc as all failures not caused by user misuse must be fixed for free for the reasonable expected normal life of the phone. On an expensive high end phone 5 years should be a reasonable expectation.

    1. Re:This is free if you live in New Zealand by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      How hard is it to make that claim in NZ? We have similar law where I live, however that often means going to court to get your phone repaired. Those who do almost always win however.

    2. Re:This is free if you live in New Zealand by ukoda · · Score: 1

      What normally happens is the customer quotes the consumer guarantees act to the retailer and they pull finger and do the right thing. If they don't you go to the relevant government body and lay a complaint. The processes are designed to be simple and straight forward. No lawyers and minimal expenses if any.

      We also have a small claims court system to handle low value claims where you go before a judge with no lawyers and state you case in plain English.

      Both systems put the power in the hands of consumers. I no longer do retails sales, too much risk as you don't have the right to pass the buck up the line to your supplier.

    3. Re:This is free if you live in New Zealand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Similar to Australia. The problem is that screen breaks are normally a result of drops, which will be easily argued as user misuse.

    4. Re:This is free if you live in New Zealand by Luthair · · Score: 1

      The number of broken screens I see it seems like normal use ;)

  18. Apple is repeating history... by kiviQr · · Score: 0

    They had a vision way back when they did first PCs. They got greedy and became niche player. They had whole market with iPhone to grab. They preferred to stay greedy and milk customers. Now they are becoming niche player again. If you didn't follow news Apple is expected to drop to the 3rd place in phone sales.

    1. Re:Apple is repeating history... by VirginMary · · Score: 1

      If you didn't follow news Apple is expected to drop to the 3rd place in phone sales.

      Why would Apple care which place in phone sales they're at? They're no. 1 in phone sale profits. I don't think you understand businesses. They exist to make money not to be no. 1 on some meaningless scale.

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    2. Re: Apple is repeating history... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have a quarter trillion dollars in the bank. Cash. They can buy Disney and Tesla. They can buy Finland and have $70 billion left over. iPhone X sold out worldwide in 20 minutes. Your comment is useless.

    3. Re:Apple is repeating history... by kiviQr · · Score: 1

      Focus on profit is a great strategy for the short term. Long term they will fail the same way they did last time. Macs had the same situation no. 1 in profit and they dropped to single digit market. They are going the same direction - exclusive and expensive toy that few people care. Biggest problem is they no longer have Steve that kept design, ascetics, and product choices simple - that made their products cool, sexy and desirable. No you have 5 different phone versions available in multiple color version.

    4. Re:Apple is repeating history... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The situation is nowhere near the same as the Mac. Apple sold about 6 million Apple II's in 14 years. They sold about, maybe 250 million Macs in 33 years. It's been almost 3 years since they sold 1 billion iOS devices. They've might be closing in on 2 Billion next year, certainly the year after that, in their 12th year since the first iPhone.

      Their size, revenue, profit, influence in the world, effect on the market, ecosystem, etc... are all massively different and more powerful than they were even in 2007, when they had been riding at their highest on the success of iPods.

      I mean, there are so many things so markedly different i can't even believe you could even try to make this analogy. Macs were constantly in manufacturing difficulty due to the relatively few providers of the parts they wanted. This constantly caused massive delays an untold extra expenses. Now they have just in time production down to a science and entire industries devoted just to them that they can control and cost margin. They were always niche products existing in a sea of PCs as the standard workplace machine. Now they are a huge player in the market, almost half of the US and successful world wide. People have their mail, photos, videos, movies, music, backup etc.. all housed with Apple and access them via their devices. I'm not sure Macs were ever number one in profit as you claim, although certainly profit margin, but clearly there's no comparison to what is now the largest company in the world, both market cap and profits, and they are responsible for almost all of the profits earned in their industry, They never had revenue greater than 15 billion before the iPhone, their 15 times that now.

      I'm not sure what you consider long term - it's not clear to me that any other phone manufacturer has any sort of golden long term plan that's unassailable. I'm not sure I buy it that Steve is the only way they can be successful, but I'd point out that Steve doesn't work for any other mobile company either.

      They're obviously doing just fine on cool, sexy, and desirable, based on the hype and demand for their latest product.

        I could go on and on. There is just no clear way to equate the two. Try to prop up an observation on equating them is just air.

      Their's absolutely nothing in their history that has any similarity to their last 12 years, I'm at a loss as to how they could repeat it. If you want to argue they're vulnerable, or they can't sustain their success, or similar things, tha'st perfectly reasonable, but not based on the completely empty things you're stating here.

  19. Oled by backslashdot · · Score: 1

    The oled screen will unevenly degrade and/or burn in within a year or two so yeah you need it.

  20. This isn't much of a surprise... by Timothy2.0 · · Score: 1

    So, pretty much jack up the cost of individual repairs to coerce users to pay for AppleCare...Alright..just wanted to make sure I was reading that correctly...

  21. Bleeding edge by spinitch · · Score: 1

    Thatâ(TM)s why latest tech often referred to as bleeding edge. As others have mentioned there cheaper alternatives. Choice is good. iPhone 6s / + still a nice device with latest iOS or many Androids. I thank the bleeding edge consumers who help fund these advances since in a couple years somewhat available for about half the price. iPhones and Galaxy line still retain high trade in values relative to most other devices.

    1. Re:Bleeding edge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bleeding Edge is a marketing euphamism that was developed so that people with little to no self control with money and also love tech can feel like they're not idiots.

      I'm more of a hand-me downs and last gen's tech miniaturized with increased reliability type. I guess you can call it "blunt edge".

  22. wait for right to repair laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wait for right to repair laws to be implemented.

  23. Gold Bar by Templer421 · · Score: 1

    These things are WAY past the value of a silver bar of the same weight and approaching the value of a gold bar.

    WHY would you buy a gold bar made of glass and just carry it around to get broken or stolen?

    Sensible people would lock something that cost as much as these things do per ounce in a safe!

    1. Re:Gold Bar by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      WHY would you buy a gold bar made of glass and just carry it around to get broken or stolen?

      Because you can compute and communicate with it? Are you some kind of moron who buys steel bars made of plastic just to carry them around and mostly because they are cheaper than gold bars?

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  24. Thin phones by DrYak · · Score: 1

    What is this obession with phones so thin you could cut cheese with them ?

    I see no direct benefit for the en user of a 4mm thick vs a 5mm phone.
    I only see an excuse for Apple to dump older connectors (like audio) on pretext of thigh space.

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  25. How much for drilling... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...a good old headphone jack?

  26. So.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The quality of articles really seems to be going down hill. The shock and horror of someone buying the top of a line phone instead of the cheapest phone available is now to much for many slashdotters.

    I mean really who would expect a screen that Samsung can barely produce in quantity and quality to be cheap and easy to replace? Why it cost about $300 for their own phone certainly they give a break to Apple so it can give a discount to people who drop their phones am I right?

    And seriously who needs an iPhone X buying one could prevent you from buying those new almost useless VR glasses, or that 64â curved TV. One should certainly buy throw away crap phones. I mean oh the horror, it doesnâ(TM)t have a headphone jack or removable battery. You really have to ask why would anyone waste their money on one right? No the question you should ask is why the fuck you are so judgemental and why you even give a fuck what other people are buying.

  27. Shocking by WankerWeasel · · Score: 1

    I for one am shocked that the price of parts for my $120k Porsche aren't cheap.

  28. So? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    https://de.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Galaxy-S8-LCD-Screen-and-Digitizer/IF355-001-1 Galaxy S8 LCD Screen and Digitizer $299.99 (without repair).

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  29. Part time summer job. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On weekends.

  30. Let's be fair to Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least $4 of that price is cost. No more than $275 is profit for Apple.

  31. Just use your credit card's insurance guarantee. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Much cheaper than AppleCare, even if you have to pay for it.

  32. Don't care... by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

    I'm never buying one. WAY too expensive.