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India, China, and Japan Are All Planning Moon Missions (upi.com)
schwit1 shares an article from UPI:
India will make its second mission to the moon in 2018, the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) announced this week. The Chandrayaan 2 spacecraft consists of an orbiter, lander and rover configuration "to perform mineralogical and elemental studies of the lunar surface," the ISRO said... Several other countries, including China and Japan, are planning lunar expeditions in the coming years -- partly to better understand the moon's environmental conditions for the potential of human settlements...
According to Popular Mechanics, the ISRO is attempting to make the lunar landing on a budget of $93 million, which is about the same cost of SpaceX's Falcon Heavy rocket that's scheduled for launch by the end of this year. The Falcon rocket, though, is only going into orbit -- and a $93 million price tag for a lunar landing could have impact on other countries' space plans.
India landed a spacecraft on the moon in 2008, and plans to complete this second lunar landing by March.
According to Popular Mechanics, the ISRO is attempting to make the lunar landing on a budget of $93 million, which is about the same cost of SpaceX's Falcon Heavy rocket that's scheduled for launch by the end of this year. The Falcon rocket, though, is only going into orbit -- and a $93 million price tag for a lunar landing could have impact on other countries' space plans.
India landed a spacecraft on the moon in 2008, and plans to complete this second lunar landing by March.
And US gets left behind. At least we have the electric car fad.
Two yellow, one brown. As it should be.
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In the Moon there are Plutonium traces from the past lunar missions.
Too many trillions wasted on war and entitlements. Human spaceflight cannot be justified based on its enormous costs and risk vs paltry scientific return vs unmanned missions.
instead of all these parallel efforts, why not work together, abstract
Need more reparations, pride festivals and feminist outrage to destroy the West.
Here's what I don't get about these plans to inhabit the Moon and Mars: even with temperatures and oceans rising, the conditions on the Moon and Mars will still be less hospitable than on Earth, and going there will still be more expansive than adpating for conditions here on Earth.
Let's say temperatures rise by 10 degrees celsius and oceans by 2 meters in the next 100 years, will conditions then be worse than the current conditions on the Moon and Mars?
I am all for space exploration, but is there really *any* reason to settle on the Moon besides enabling us to go further into the Solar System?
More sex changes too. After all... Mother Nature must be flawed.
Yes, Mother Nature is flawed. After all, what are hospitals, antibiotics, central heating, surgery, air conditioning, sewers, treated municipal drinking water for? For that matter, clothes?
What about cancer? That's a flaw.
So what are you really trying to say?
Mostly random stuff.
We'll see how they tackle the toilet problem - a technology that they have yet to master here on earth.
take India, China, and Japan with you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
So, a few more freemason-controlled 'space agencies' are going to fake a few more visits to the heavens.
And as usual, nothing of any value will happen, because it's all just a head game, keeping Earth round in your head.
If we were not wasting money on manned space flight. What a ridiculous waste of money. 200 Billion dollars for the operational lifetime of the space station alone. Billions more to build the rocket to nowhere and the capsule for nothing...
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You go to the moon. We're doing the real high tech work of re-opening coal mines.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Brother, are you really asking an AC troll for clarification?
You are welcome on my lawn.
I am being silly, aren't I?
Mostly random stuff.
Oh good, we should put a person on the moon soon because other people are doing it, right?
We've already been there a half dozen times. Furthermore, we have limited resources for this type of thing. Is another mission to the moom really worth our time without some sort of concrete goal for the mission?
I think not, NASA has far better uses for its resources
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So we spent too much on war and now we can't afford spaceflight? Or are you saying we should not spend the trillions on spaceflight, so that we can spend it on wars?
Come on, General; you can spare a few billion!
Trolls are answering trolls now. We need to create a honeypot somewhere to distract them to.
His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
... and Elon Musk! I think I read that he might be sending a manned spacecraft around the moon (and back).
Seriously, I'm not too worried (or impressed) by other nations repeating something that the U.S. did fifty years ago and that now a private citizen is developing the technology to do himself (ok his company).
And even if India's effort is cheaper than a NEW falcon heavy, will it be cheaper than one of his reused rockets? One that's been flown a few times? A dozen times? Once these space powers make reusable rockets, I'll be more worried but I won't be (as) impressed. Why? Because as I think most engineers will tell you, just KNOWING that something that was previously thought impossible/extremely difficult is doable is half the battle (and that's assuming that these nations intelligence agencies haven't already stolen all of Space-X's plans). (That's why the Russian Concordski and Rutan weren't as impressive as the originals. However Sputnik certainly was!)
I am also planning a moon mission. My piggy bank is already half full.
Thanks Obama for helping the commercial spaceflight companies get off the ground, investing in actual science rather than publicity and proving a Black man can be just as good if not even better than a White president. Also a big thanks to Trump for showing that White supremecy is a myth. I mean one look at that bufoon and people can no longer take the idea of "master" race seriously anymore.
In the Moon there are Plutonium traces from the past lunar missions.
On the Earth, there are Plutonium traces from the past nuclear accidents/tests.
At least on the Moon, we *know* that radiation exposure from any Plutonium contamination is orders of magnitude lower than exposure someone would get from *natural* radiation sources (e.g. cosmic rays, solar particles, etc) since unlike the Earth, the Moon has no magnetic field to protect it.
Obama's legacy? "You didn't build that."
No more space travel until we solve the CO2 emission problem! They are killing us all just for a few satellites and "fun" missions/probes.
> Trolls are answering trolls now. We need to create a honeypot somewhere to distract them to.
Don't tell anyone, but this is exactly the point of Slashdot.
i, for one welcome our new competititve overlords but it always strikes me at funny how both the united lobbies and the free world actually never make the slightest mention of the EU (which is lol, and 15 years ago when i was shouting that i needed to get out of here they just chained me to the place somehow) ...
... (but we do have lenghty government sessions on wether you're allowed to listen to your mp3 in france if you bought it in americas)
.... and i hear in Paris the terrorists have gained a sense of community too, they try shooting cops over civilians now for a while ... and STILL, it wasnt the chinese who invented them right, but you can't say that, cos that's anti-american and "ARE YOU ONE OF THEM PERHAPS" ?
and thats the less funny bit
thats a fact
and Trump had drones , right ? who cares about sustainaility, anyone remember colonel Santiago from the sid meyer game ? the apex of military power ?
well today the apex of military power is a base on the moon and a sattelite web cos if you can't even launch your nuke 100 meters far then what are all your fighter jets for LOL
but lets be PC, and lets kick those mexicans and trannies out, first, you're right
Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?
Don't look now but NASA's job was to conceal the military slavenet being built. We aren't going to the moon. Or Mars. Or anywhere "up there". Just the Book of Revelation "down here". The projects you're working on for your day job will be meaningless garbage when the real tech asserts itself.
You know, I sorta agree with your message that optimism and adaptability are key messages to youth. But then you reveal your trollish attitudes and perspective.
Let's see, "a slow, perhaps mythical, rise in sea level...", "trivial problems...", "you are living in the lap of luxury and security..", oh and climate change is nothing but "a computer simulation".
Do you know how our parents and grandparents survived? By doing what they could to better themselves. Do you know how medieval Europeans survived the plague? By instituting public health initiatives. They wouldn't have called them public health initiatives, but that's what they were. Stop overcrowding cities so much. Stop pouring sewage in the streets. Get regular garbage collection going. That sort of thing.
See, you don't want climate change to be real and therefore you (and your children) don't have to do anything about it. It's not a problem folks! We can sit on our ass and complain about all the brown people!
Therefore your real message isn't "be adaptable and optimistic", it is "ideological reality is the only reality, and fuck anyone who says otherwise!"