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Broadcom Explores Buying Qualcomm (bloomberg.com)

phalse phace writes: Bloomberg news is reporting that Broadcom may be planning to make an offer to buy Qualcomm. From the report: "Broadcom Ltd. is considering a bid of more than $100 billion for Qualcomm Inc., according to people familiar with the matter, in what would be the biggest-ever takeover of a chipmaker. Broadcom is speaking to advisers about the potential deal, said the people, who asked not to be identified because talks are private. The offer of about $70 a share would include cash and stock and is likely to be made in the coming days, the people said." If the deal goes through, Broadcom would become "the world's third largest chipmaker behind Intel Corp. and Samsung Electronics Co. and give it a huge swath of the supply chain of vital phone components such as Wi-Fi and cellular modem chips. The two companies are already among the top ten providers of chips ranked by revenue in an industry that's consolidating rapidly."

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  1. Broadcom also moving their HQ from Singapore to US by xmas2003 · · Score: 1
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  2. NOOOOOOO by lactose99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Broadcom sucks at releasing firmware and hardware programming specs for their wireless gear.

    Broadcom wants to buy Qualcomm

    Qualcomm bought Atheros, who was traditionally much much better at releasing firmware and programming specs.

    This is going to suck.

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    1. Re:NOOOOOOO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Avago bought broadcom and took the new name. Avago is basically a holding company with each acquired business operating independently. They are also extremely profit driven so that might affect your concerns.

      If you work for qualcomm you should be concerned.

    2. Re:NOOOOOOO by Blymie · · Score: 1

      I've used 3ware -> LSI -> Avago -> Broadcom raid cards for 20 years.

      Support during the 3ware and LSI days was great. Never had an issue, even with 'unsupported' drives and support -- as long as I showed the technical skill to work with LSI on issues.

      Avago was fine right after the buyout, but these days technical support people at Broadcom are just not skilled. With LSI, you'd call/email.. and someone that seemed to actually understand raid, and how their products worked, would assist you.

      Not now. Every contact I've had there in the last 2 years, has resulted in people that are effectively looking up info from internal wikis or knowledge libraries, and just reading those responses. Issues are often replied to with canned responses, from people that don't even 'get' what's happening.

      This is with detailed logs, and other info that makes the response nonsensical.

      For example, I had issues with 10TB drives dropping out of an array. I was quickly told that my drives were NAS drives, so how could I expect them to work with a raid card!? Meanwhile, these same NAS drives are raided in every NAS application I've ever seen, and yes with similar broadcom products.

      Also, retailers like Newegg were selling a raid card directly, not via 3rd party sellers -- and in quantity, just a year ago. Yet, another issue with a broadcom product, this raid card, I was told that the product was "out of support" for 4 years. 4 years!!

      Surely, there was not 3+ years of stock in the supply chain. Meaning, that Broadcom was selling product for years after refusing to support it?

      No, likely it was again a case of support trying to 'get out of doing their job'.

      Support has gone way, waaaay, waaaaaaaaay downhill after the takeover.

      The scary part is, these guys account for almost all raid card chips in the world. LSI was a powerhouse, products in every server, rebranded by Dell, Supermicro, HP, you name it. And Broadcoms own puny lineup of pre-existing raid chips, must put it up very high end, for hardware raid.

      (EG, not chips that are really hybrid/software raid chips)

      NVMe gives hope, I've seen many new players in the market. It would be nice to see competition again.

    3. Re:NOOOOOOO by DonaldWilliamGillies · · Score: 1

      As Avago is a Taiwanese company, I am certain that if they buy Qualcomm then the $800m fine from the Taiwanese government against Qualcomm will "magically" disappear

  3. Rebranding by Quirkz · · Score: 2

    It would make me very happy if the merged company rebranded to become Comcomm.

    1. Re:Rebranding by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      They also should have bought 3com.

  4. They could call it Comcomm by Required+Snark · · Score: 1

    When there is only one semiconductor manufacturer left what will it be called?

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    1. Re:They could call it Comcomm by Agripa · · Score: 1

      When there is only one semiconductor manufacturer left what will it be called?

      It will not matter because they will only be making products for the single combat aircraft that the US military can buy.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  5. Incomprehensible by puddingebola · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Incomprehensible swallowing of giant Qualcomm by Giant Broadcomm which was itself swallowed by giant Avago technologies to form giant Broadcomm Limited which has 13 billion in revenue while Qualcomm has 23 billion in revenue (how is that possible?) which will form new company BROADQUAL which will be investigated by the Department of Justice under the Sherman Anti-Trust act for anti-competitive practices, which Qualcomm is already being investigated for. And I ended the run-on senctence with a preposition. We are running forward into the cattle.

  6. I used to work for Qualcomm by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Was a consultant in the 90s (Globalstar), then an employee in the '00s. Left in '08. Best company I ever consulted/worked for, by far. Few years back went sailing with a friend, who's friend's boyfriend left Texas Instruments for Qcom, relocating in the process. He didn't want to talk about his work, but said the move was his worst career move he'd ever made. Few months later, 3 couples on a sailboat. Me, my friend, owner of the sailboat and her BF, the ex-TI guy, and a guy I'd worked with in the 90s and some woman sailboat owner was trying to setup with Qcom 90s guy. Ken was his name.

    I started talking to Ken about Qcom, he didn't want to talk about it. He was perfectly willing to talk about Qcom 20 years ago, but not life there now. Keep in mind this guy had been there for some 30 years, he was worth a few million, and was still working. He pretty much said that when Paul took over the culture changed overnight. The annual Christmas party, that used to be several shades past awesome? Cancelled. The summer picnics I took my 1 digit old grandkids to? cancelled. The dinners that came in at 7 PM when you were waiting for a chip to clear customs? Cancelled.

    I ended up selling all my stock and cashing in my options around 7-8 years ago cuz I needed the money, but damn, that stock hasn't gone anywhere since then. Think I sold at 50 something, stock is now 62 something.

    1. Re:I used to work for Qualcomm by DonaldWilliamGillies · · Score: 2

      I am pretty sure I know which "Ken" you are talking about (he managed my wife on the Globalstar project, and visited our house many times.) Qualcomm went to hell in about 2012. I got out in 2013. Ken stayed until 2015, and is now touring the country in his personal motor home, and is out sailling this week. However, he is not "worth a couple of million". Qualcomm always treated him poorly, he was employee #30, and it had not promoted him beyond senior staff in over 20 years, despite his loyalty and hard work, like most of the people who pulled more than their weight, Qualcomm shits on those people and gave all the bonuses to the suits with ties who are "In the club".

  7. Embedded Automotive Rollercoaster. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sigh.

    We have chips, in use, that were of Motorola design when they were in cahoots with IBM and Apple. Then Freescale. Then NXP. Now Qualcomm. They just now updated their default install location from C:\Freescale to C:\NXP.

    Maybe moving to Renesas won't be too terrible... then again they were NEC.

    1. Re:Embedded Automotive Rollercoaster. by tarokejihi · · Score: 1

      More precisely Renesas results from the merge of Hitatchi and Mitsubishi, and afterwards NEC. They sells MCUs from the 3 (think SH for exemple).

      It's a good company to work in, people are very dedicated. For exemple, they contribute a lot to the kernel, see https://www.linuxfoundation.or....

      Funnily, Renesas acquired Nokia Mobile R&D. The objective was to become a major contender to Qualcomm. Then after failure they sold this business to ... Broadcom.

    2. Re:Embedded Automotive Rollercoaster. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      More precisely Renesas results from the merge of Hitatchi and Mitsubishi, and afterwards NEC. They sells MCUs from the 3 (think SH for exemple).

      Is anyone still actually buying those? I didn't think they'd been keeping them current.

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    3. Re:Embedded Automotive Rollercoaster. by tarokejihi · · Score: 1

      Drinkypoo San, may be you are right, SH are not bought. However they are still sold ;-) see https://www.renesas.com/en-us/...

  8. Re:Broadcom also moving their HQ from Singapore to by drew_kime · · Score: 1

    Which makes it obvious that moving their mailing address was done just to make it easier for US regulators to approve this acquisition.

    And don't forget the pending litigation with Apple. Might play better for them as an "American" company.

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  9. Wait, what? by Guspaz · · Score: 1

    Errm, Qualcomm is double the size of Broadcom (both in terms of revenue and number of employees). How the heck is a $13 billion revenue company (Broadcom) with only $4 billion in cash reserves going to buy a company for $100 billion?

    1. Re:Wait, what? by TooManyNames · · Score: 1

      Lots of debt... don't forget that Broadcom was actually bigger than Avago when Avago made that purchase.

      Even with a lot of debt, though, Broadcom (Avago) is actually really good at repayment following acquisitions: they basically slice up what they acquire in order to pick off the business units they really want, and sell off the rest. That means that they recoup a lot of the expense of an acquisition pretty much immediately. Obviously it's not great if you happen to work for one of those less desirable business units, but, hey, it's not much better if you're part of one of the desired units either: Broadcom is also highly aggressive about improving profitability of business units; their m.o. is basically cut until it bleeds.

      Still, from an investment bank perspective, Broadcom has traditionally been a pretty good lending opportunity.

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  10. Re:Broadcom also moving their HQ from Singapore to by Desler · · Score: 2

    Except it’s Qualcomm that filed suit against not Broadcom.

  11. Comparing Broadcom to Qualcomm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I worked at both

    I've invested in both companies

    A confession - I have a builtin bias. I know Hock Tan, Broadcom's boss, for decades (before he went into Broadcom)

    Overall impression:
    Dishonesty runs in the veins of Qualcomm while paranoia runs in the veins of Broadcom

  12. Re:Broadcom also moving their HQ from Singapore to by drew_kime · · Score: 1

    Except it’s Qualcomm that filed suit against not Broadcom.

    You know this story is about Broadcom buying Qualcomm, so they'll be the same company, right?

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