CBS To Reboot 'The Twilight Zone' (hollywoodreporter.com)

Storylines by _Sharp'r_ · 2017-11-03 19:02 · Score: 4, Funny

In the first episode, an outspoken Billionaire reality TV star wins the Presidency against the bitter wife of a former President who believes it's her turn next...

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Re:Storylines by jellomizer · 2017-11-03 22:05 · Score: 5, Funny

So it is a prequel to the episode where the guy lost his glasses.

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Re: Storylines by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 22:25 · Score: 0

And he plays everyoneâ(TM)s best buddy with no real personal interest for politics until everyone agrees to build a wall as a monument so big that it will be kept alive with his name on it for a thousand years.
Re:Storylines by PolygamousRanchKid+ · 2017-11-03 23:13 · Score: 0

In the first episode, an outspoken Billionaire reality TV star wins the Presidency against the bitter wife of a former President who believes it's her turn next...
Actually, that would make a classic traditional Twilight Zone episode!
She rabidly rants about all those folks who cost her the election during the entire show.
But at the end, it is revealed to her that she, herself, was responsible for losing the election.
Hey, Hillary! Most people don't like you . . . have you got that yet . . . ?
I mean, losing an election to someone like John McCain would have been honorable . . . but to lose to the joke that is Donald Trump . . . you must really suck!

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Re:Storylines by JaredOfEuropa · 2017-11-03 23:42 · Score: 1

That's more along the lines of the (excellent) Black Mirror series.

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Re: Storylines by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 23:59 · Score: 0

That was season 5/6 of Scandal
Re:Storylines by MightyYar · 2017-11-04 01:55 · Score: 1

That is fantastic. I don't need to read anymore Slashdot today.

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Re:Storylines by JustAnotherOldGuy · 2017-11-04 02:50 · Score: 1

LOL, perfect.

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Re:Storylines by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 03:51 · Score: 0

Hey, Hillary! Most people don't like you . . . have you got that yet . . . ?
Perhaps true, but the burning question is why. This simplistic shit doesn't help, any more than her stupid book. Take a look from the outside in, and you see a smart experienced person was out-done by a over-blown TV personality who is proving every day that incompetence in the White House really can fuck things up and cost all of us money. How much of this is her fault, the fault of the DNC, Obama's fault for not doing more for the DNC, Bernie's fault for fucking it up (or maybe the party should have gone all-in for him), and how much is just a consequence of a Twitter, Brietbart, fake-news-on-Facebook world NEEDS TO BE FIGURED OUT, or the next President may be even worse. Trump may be a mean-spirited narcissistic gas-bag, but he's not as Evil as the talk-show-hosts and avowed racists who may now believe their time has come at last, for whom "drain the swamp" means "expunge anyone with a college degree and any clue how to get anything done."
Re:Storylines by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 04:19 · Score: 0

Perhaps true, but the burning question is why.
Because she's a power-mad, corrupt psychopath, and enough people realized it. In the end, she simply couldn't fool enough of the people for even one time.
Re:Storylines by jwhyche · 2017-11-04 04:47 · Score: 2

I don't know. I think that plot would seem to far out there. But yet is some how seems familiar.....

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Re:Storylines by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 08:19 · Score: 0

Because a bunch of mysogynist twisted dumbfuck right wing liars and haters made up a load of lies in a desperate attempt to discredit her, such as she's a power-mad, corrupt psychopath, and enough people realized it. In the end, she simply couldn't fool enough of the people for even one time.
A pile of lies, but nobody ever accused the right of caring about truth or facts.
FTFY
Re:Storylines by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 10:36 · Score: 0

Because a bunch of mysogynist twisted dumbfuck right wing liars and haters made up a load of lies in a desperate attempt to discredit her
Well, you know what they say. Where there's smoke there is a strong indication of fire. And she was surrounded by a whole lot of smoke.
Re:Storylines by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 15:22 · Score: 0

Hey, Hillary! Most people don't like you
You have an odd definition of "most", since she won the popular vote.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a bad thing for someone to win the popular vote but still lose because of how the Electoral College works. I am merely arguing against your very specific claim that "most people don't like [her]". If most people did not like her, she would have lost the popular vote as well as the Electoral College vote.
Re:Storylines by ChrisMaple · 2017-11-04 19:25 · Score: 1

Her experience has been disastrous. Hillarycare rejected by her own party. The Russian "Reset" embarrassment and its accompanying mistranslation. Faking illness immediately after Benghazi so as to not have to answer questions until she got her lies organized. Obvious and well-reported influence peddling. Sale of uranium rights to Russia. These 5 items just scratch the surface of a lifetime of evil.

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Cool... by RyanFenton · 2017-11-03 19:12 · Score: 5, Interesting

The hard part is the philosophy. Acting/special effects/costumes/lighting/etc. are certainly important - but the key to it actually being a good Twilight Zone is that it's exploring a twist in philosophy.

It's not supposed to be horror, grimdark, author-insert, perspective writing, or anything like that - it's a show about exploring philosophy and implications You can certainly use tropes from other genres to get TO your philosophy, but if you're not exploring and really playing with the concepts, you're not really doing a proper twilight zone.

Jordan Peele is actually farily appropriate in my odd mind - he's got a nice twist to his comedy that might work well. Perhaps not just like Rod Serling or anything - but worth exploring. The Orville ended up being a good exploration of Star Trek concepts, also from a comedy director - so I'll give this a chance!

Ryan Fenton

Re:Cool... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 19:58 · Score: 2, Interesting

It's a bit deeper than that, and it's the reason why the subsequent versions were ultimately forgotten.
"The Twilight Zone" was a _Writer's_ Show. Of the 156 episodes, 92 were written or rewritten by Serling, he Executive Produced, and he hosted. He had a roster of really good Writers, including Matheson, and every show was self-contained; every Cast different, no goddam Story Arcs.
That is what an Anthology Show was back then. There were variations; Hitchcock Produced, but didn't write, or except for one occasion, Direct.
The only element constant each week was Serling himself, who already had a reputation as a Writer. Also, there were no pestilent "Show Runners", a publicity term coined by "Variety"; the "People Magazine" of the Entertainment World.
Neither Peele nor Ramirez have shown any aptitude for Anthology; for the Short Story. Ramirez in particular is into that Story Arc nonsense. So a lot depends on who Hosts. If they just hire a recognizable face, it may last a Season. But in all likelihood there will be a Weekly Cast, perhaps a Paranormal investigator and his perky Daughter, and it will turn into an "X-Files" clone, hosted by some dude who just shows up five minutes a week to recite a couple of opening lines, and a snarky/reflective/philosophical line at the end.
Also, and this is very important, whoever Hosts must Smoke. Serling was constantly seen with a cigarette clutched between his knuckles. If not a cigarette, perhaps a cigar. It doesn't have to be lit; many hosts back then, like Bob Wilkins, just used it as a prop.
And it doesn't have to be tobacco. Some concessions can be made to the modern World.
Re:Cool... by darthsilun · 2017-11-03 22:29 · Score: 1

You had me right to the end, up to where you wrote that the host has to smoke.
Why exactly does the host have to smoke?
Because Serling smoked? No. If we can make concessions to the modern world, one of them can be not smoking.
Re:Cool... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 22:57 · Score: 0

The hard part is the philosophy. Acting/special effects/costumes/lighting/etc. are certainly important - but the key to it actually being a good Twilight Zone is that it's exploring a twist in philosophy.
No, it isn't. You just need to eat some pistachio ice cream before bed, record your weird dreams, make them into an episode, and declare that you've said something deep and meaningful for the masses to speculate on.
It's probably the simplest job in Television.
Re:Cool... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · 2017-11-03 22:59 · Score: 1

Why exactly does the host have to smoke?
Dude, you can't get high without smoking.
Well, maybe you could brew some tea or bake some brownies, but it takes a very long time until they kick in.
Rod Serling did it right, and entertained us while he was going off to the "Magic Kingdom" . . .
. . . now, where did he put his sweater . . . ?

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Re:Cool... by JaredOfEuropa · 2017-11-03 23:51 · Score: 2

in all likelihood there will be a Weekly Cast, perhaps a Paranormal investigator and his perky Daughter, and it will turn into an "X-Files" clone, hosted by some dude who just shows up five minutes a week to recite a couple of opening lines, and a snarky/reflective/philosophical line at the end.
This remark brings me back to that Community episode where Pierce sits in on a focus group for an American remake of a British series, and pretty much singlehandedly ruins the new series with his "insightful" remarks. I hope that isn't what you just did...

But in all seriousness, that's probably what we'll get. With a generous helping of morality thrown in, I suspect. I loved the old Twilight Zone though... gotta find those DVDs I have lying around somewhere.

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Re:Cool... by Hognoxious · 2017-11-04 01:28 · Score: 2

Why exactly does the host have to smoke?
For the same reason master criminals have to stroke cats.

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Re:Cool... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 01:31 · Score: 0

They're going to fuck it up just like Star Trek. It's going to be a virtue-signaling shitshow focusing on placing women and POCs in the leading roles and taking on themes where evil white men are defeated by our heroes. I'm willing to wager a substantial amount of money on that bet.
Re:Cool... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 02:27 · Score: 2, Interesting

I am re-watching the series right now.
You have it fairly well nailed on what the original show was. It was a fairly low budget show. If you watch them there is near to 0 special effects. Most of it is set pieces on existing sets or driving out to the desert. Someone needs to disappear? Pan away have actor react. Sometimes they would stop the camera then resume it for the pop removal. If they could not pull the effect off on set they did not do it.
What most people miss is how cheaply made the shows were. They had to focus pretty much 100% on the story. Which is what makes all shows and movies good. Focus on the story.
I am also watching the original dragnet series. That too was mostly set pieces but with a better budget. It is a good exploration of similar issues we fight today. Those issues never went away.
Re:Cool... by mikael · 2017-11-04 02:38 · Score: 2

There was always that twist. " A small talent for war" where the UN on Earth is advised that they must change their ways or face annihilation by aliens. But it was that Earth had to become more warlike rather than peaceful. Other times, all they needed to do is add one new device like a live-saving cocoon suit that would prevent a person from dying - the catch was that it didn't guarantee good health afterwards. Or the classic episode where someone is given a button to press with no explanation for what it does.
There was a style of lighting and set design in that time where everything seemed to be filmed at sunset and consisted of marbled floors, walls and geometric shapes.

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Re:Cool... by JustAnotherOldGuy · 2017-11-04 02:55 · Score: 2

Because Serling smoked? No. If we can make concessions to the modern world, one of them can be not smoking.
Maybe he could have a nice bowl of quinoa while committing micro-aggressions against the audience by wearing dreadlocks or displaying a native American symbol on his shirt. O The Horror!

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Re:Cool... by MightyMartian · 2017-11-04 02:56 · Score: 4, Informative

You're not tweiebly familiar with the original Teimighty Zone or Rod Serling, I see. Or the original Star Trek for that matter. Both Serling and Roddenberry were intensely interested in "social justice" and used science fiction or fantasy tropes as a means to explore social issues.

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Re: Cool... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 03:41 · Score: 0

People smoke because it's cool.
Seeing a character they like smoke increases the odds a child will start.
Smoking kills a large fraction of people who do it. If you don't care whether millions of people die an early death, fuck you, you waste of breath.
Also, enormous medical costs shared by all, if you need it to personally affect your wallet. You piece of shit.
Re:Cool... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 04:02 · Score: 0

Both Serling and Roddenberry were intensely interested in "social justice"...
But they're both white males and therefore are incapable of true social justice!
- signed, a rabid 300 pound purple-haired "swirl" communist lesbian
Re:Cool... by hey! · 2017-11-04 05:53 · Score: 1

It boils down to writing. Shows like The Twilight Zone are the drama equivalent of a short story, but we're in an age of epic, sprawling story arcs in TV. I welcome the idea of a counterbalance to that, but I'm a bit concerned that network suits might be thinking more in terms of a brand or a property.

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Re:Cool... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 06:44 · Score: 0

They did it to provoke thought, not to be conformist.
Re:Cool... by CohibaVancouver · 2017-11-04 09:29 · Score: 1

It is a good exploration of similar issues we fight today. Those issues never went away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Re: Cool... by barbariccow · 2017-11-04 10:43 · Score: 1

Smoking kills a large fraction of people who do it.
Please tell me, what is that secret ingredient that has thus evaded being identified as causing cancer in smokes? Perhaps you should look into the matter yourself instead of accepting it solely on faith...
Re:Cool... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 13:22 · Score: 0

If we are making concessions to the modern world, the host could vape.
Re:Cool... by ChrisMaple · 2017-11-04 19:40 · Score: 1

The image projected by different types of smoking methods if very different.
Cigar: stinky, offensive, brusque
Pipe: thoughtful but stodgy
Hookah: drugged
Cigarette with holder: effeminate, shallow
Cigarette without holder, in hand: trying to make a stylish impression
Cigarette without holder, in mouth: lout, fool.

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Re: Cool... by ChrisMaple · 2017-11-04 19:52 · Score: 1

Nicotine is fatally poisonous in small quantities, but it is not necessarily carcinogenic.
The nasty goo generally called "tars" in cigarette smoke contains chemicals generally considered carcinogenic
Just the high temperatures of the inhaled gasses from cigarettes may cause throat cancer.

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Re:Cool... by blindseer · 2017-11-05 18:41 · Score: 1

Why exactly does the host have to smoke?
The host doesn't need to be smoking, but I do think it provides an important visual clue for the viewer.
It's typical for people to equate smoking to being relaxed, having time to tell a good story, that the day is done or at least one has enough time to think of something beyond the task at hand. Maybe the host should poor a drink. It doesn't have to be alcoholic but the implication that it likely is might be important. Think of people sitting down after the evening meal for a glass of wine, or having a beer before supper.
This has been a visual or literary device for a very long time. This has been often taken advantage of in comedy, where the host changes mood from the "formal" standing routine to taking a minute to pour himself a drink, light a cigar, or just pull out a chair or stool to sit down, showing an intent to get comfortable/intimate with the crowd.
I think that starting the show with the host doing something to set the mood is important. As in demonstrating a mood as in have a smoke/drink/seat and enjoy the show. As I recall with Serling's openings the cigarette wasn't always visible or prominent but the nearly omnipresent puff of smoke over his head gave a clue. His tone of voice and mood had just as much to do with setting up the story as anything.
Maybe mix it up with each episode. The show opens with the host seated in his study lighting a cigar. The show opens with the host at a nearly empty bar having a drink. The show opens with the host on his back porch looking in a telescope. The host in front of a tent with a campfire burning. The host at an easel with a paintbrush in hand. Etc. and etc. All openings are dimly lit, soothing background noise, and a few slowly spoken words to set the scene for the story to be told.

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Re:Cool... by painandgreed · 2017-11-07 10:27 · Score: 1

Because Serling smoked? No. If we can make concessions to the modern world, one of them can be not smoking.
Maybe he could have a nice bowl of quinoa while committing micro-aggressions against the audience by wearing dreadlocks or displaying a native American symbol on his shirt. O The Horror!
That sounds more like something that Alfred Hitchcock would do.

Just like Star Trek Discovery? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 19:31 · Score: 0

I can't wait for more action packed CG scenes with stories and technology so far out there they make you go "waaaaaat?" instead of "oh hey, that's kinda creepy".

Re:Just like Star Trek Discovery? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 19:37 · Score: 0

I can't wait for Fox to do The Scary Door, ostensibly as humor but with actual thought-provoking stories.
Re:Just like Star Trek Discovery? by jellomizer · 2017-11-03 22:08 · Score: 1

Don’t forget you will have to pay for CBS all access. Because we just want to pay $8 a month that has one station just to watch one or two shows that are interesting.

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Re:Just like Star Trek Discovery? by jellomizer · 2017-11-03 22:12 · Score: 1

The viewers will love it, but the critics will hate it. Because it didn’t match their expectations because they figured it would be like the Futureramma clips while they got something different. So they are all mad and confused that a show didn’t fit into the box they were expecting.

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Re:Just like Star Trek Discovery? by MightyMartian · 2017-11-04 03:00 · Score: 1

I still get shivers up my spine everytime I see a ventriloquist's dummy, thanks to The Dummy. I must have been four or five when I first saw it, and I'm not sure I've ever been so freaked out before or after.

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Re:Just like Star Trek Discovery? by ArchieBunker · 2017-11-04 03:01 · Score: 1

Oh yeah just found out they have holo decks now.

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I like the pinball machine too by Bender+Unit+22 · 2017-11-03 19:43 · Score: 1

"I like the pinball machine too", the geek says while looking at this Twilight Zone pinball in his livingroom.

Re:I like the pinball machine too by cellocgw · 2017-11-04 02:12 · Score: 1

"I like the pinball machine too", the geek says while looking at this Twilight Zone pinball in his livingroom.
I take it you're a pal of Jonathan Dietz?
Meanwhile, I have to settle for the Pinball Arcade version :-(

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Re:I like the pinball machine too by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-05 01:28 · Score: 0

Best pinball ever. Current UK price £6k approx. I can afford it...but do I want the hassle (I think due to its complexity it's maybe quite breakdown prone). Damn, it's tempting, and it's my birthday next week...
Re:I like the pinball machine too by Gornkleschnitzer · 2017-11-06 08:50 · Score: 1

Welcome to the club! One of my all time favorites, got one myself too. Great game design, if you can forgive the suicidal clock opto board.

The next old series by thadtheman · 2017-11-03 19:45 · Score: 2

that modern media is going to screw up.

Re:The next old series by thinkwaitfast · 2017-11-03 20:02 · Score: 1

again
Re:The next old series by 93+Escort+Wagon · 2017-11-03 20:06 · Score: 1

Hopefully no one dies this time around.

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Re: The next old series by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 20:52 · Score: 1

Starring an obese nonbinary non-white person.
Re:The next old series by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 21:22 · Score: 0

Trump's impeachment will be tremendous competition for ratings, that's for sure.
Re: The next old series by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 22:06 · Score: 1

Starring an obese nonbinary non-white person.
An Orange one?
Re:The next old series by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 00:09 · Score: 0

>Shit, it's been 30 whole seconds since I've told the world how much I hate Trump and I just can't stand it!! Fuck, no politics threads...guess this thread about a TV show from the 50's will have to do.
Oh, and keep holding your breath on the impeachment thing. Literally.
Re:The next old series by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 01:16 · Score: 0

No, already seen the jokes about "The Twilight Zone: Discovery"
The shows to screw up are:
"F->M Troop"
"My Mother the Trans-Automotive", and,
"Non-Binary-Specific Parent Knows Best". . .
Re: The next old series by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 07:44 · Score: 1

If you mean this orange one then he already is starring in one. The Orange Coon of Washington DC, a new reality show taking place in the White House.
Re:The next old series by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 08:33 · Score: 0

Its coming Trumpflake, and there is nothing you alt right morons can do to stop it

The CBS Family by tonique · 2017-11-03 20:13 · Score: 2, Insightful

Remember, kids, that The Twilight Zone is part of the CBS Family, which sounds a little like the Manson Family. As reported a few days ago, CBS sues man for copyright over screenshots of 59-year-old TV show:

A CBS spokesperson wouldn't identify the exact nature of Tannen's alleged infringement. The company offered only this statement via e-mail: "Matt, Doc, Chester and Miss Kitty are part of the CBS family. Anybody who tries to do them dirt will end up on boot hill."

Re:The CBS Family by mikael · 2017-11-04 02:41 · Score: 1

The Twilight Zone part would be the show was filmed live 59-years into the future.

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They've been beaten to it by SyFy by 0ryn · 2017-11-03 21:50 · Score: 2

I think that the SyFy channel have got there first with Dimension 404 which seems very Outer limits / Twilight Zone.
That said, if the show made it over here on Netflix I'd watch it

Re:They've been beaten to it by SyFy by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 03:51 · Score: 0

I just finished watching this series on Hulu yesterday, I thought it was a very nice addition to the Outer Limits / Twilight Zone style series.

But we already got a Twilight Zone reboot... by AC-x · 2017-11-03 22:18 · Score: 2

But we already got a Twilight Zone reboot...

Re:But we already got a Twilight Zone reboot... by guacamole · 2017-11-04 01:07 · Score: 1

And before it, the The Scary Door

Already is one. by jddj · 2017-11-03 22:31 · Score: 2

It's called "Black Mirror". CBS will have a very hard time indeed outdoing it.

Re: Already is one. by jddj · 2017-11-04 03:12 · Score: 1

CBS providing "BM" quality in a series reboot is a little too on the nose.
Re:Already is one. by DontBeAMoran · 2017-11-04 03:28 · Score: 1

As yayoubetcha said above, Black Mirror consists of stories that hold a mirror to our modern society posing questions about where we're going with our technology.
The Twilight Zone is stories about almost anything, it could be magic, aliens, other dimensions, gods and demons, etc.
I see them as being similar but in two distinct categories, like fantasy vs science-fiction even though most services likes to lump them together in the same idiotic category.

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Re:Already is one. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 03:31 · Score: 0

Black mirror is about cellphones silly. Twilight zone is about a much broader range of ideas.
That said, it would be nice it TV land could come up with some original shows.
Re:Already is one. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · 2017-11-04 03:48 · Score: 1

Science fiction is usually about the new technology of the day and the fears it brings. It's no wonder Black Mirror finds loads of subject matter regarding omnipresent Internet and social contact.

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Re: Already is one. by jddj · 2017-11-04 04:47 · Score: 1

Agree, they're really not the same. It's mainly that there hasn't been a lot of good anthology TV since TZ.
What bugs me: Rod Serling's been dead lo these many years, but people started nibbling at his corpse. My first strong memory is the well-intentioned fiction anthology mag "Twilight Zone" from maybe the late 70s/early 80s. Even with Serling's wife involved, it was GOOD, but it was not TZ.
Black Mirror's best innovation might be staking out its own quadrant (personal tech/socmed/dystopia), setting its own course, and not calling itself "Twilight Zone".
Re:Already is one. by sexconker · 2017-11-04 05:18 · Score: 0

Black Mirror is trash. It's as shallow, tired, and hamfisted as a 15 year old's poetry.
Re:Already is one. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 11:00 · Score: 0

Black Mirror is trash. It's as shallow, tired, and hamfisted as a 15 year old's poetry.
Show us on the doll where Charlie Brooker touched you.

Addams Family by darthsilun · 2017-11-03 22:32 · Score: 2

What would it take to get ABC to reboot that. But it needs to be done well.

Announcer: by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 23:24 · Score: 0

You're on a scenic route through a state recreational area known as the human mind. You ask a passer-by for directions, only to find he has no face or something. Suddenly up ahead, a door in the road. You swerve, narrowly avoiding The Scary Door.

Re:Announcer: by DontBeAMoran · 2017-11-04 03:30 · Score: 1

I know Futurama is over and all, but I'd watch The Scary Door if it was made into a series of its own. Hopefully they can make the episodes longer than 15 seconds or so. Under five minutes would be perfect, I think.

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Re:Announcer: by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · 2017-11-04 03:53 · Score: 1

Or the Twilight Zone parody on SNL: "We can make you squirm." (Puts ball of tinfoil in his mouth and chews it.)

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Who needs reboot crap of that?! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-03 23:37 · Score: 0

All I gotta do is look at today's elected officials in Congress and POTUS to get the same scare I got from the original series as a kid.

Great... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 00:00 · Score: 0

Can't wait to see how they ruin another classic show with forced leftist narratives and SJW nonsense.

Re:Great... by MightyMartian · 2017-11-04 03:03 · Score: 1

And again, another alt right snow flake that knows nothing about the original Twilight Zone

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Re:Great... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 04:13 · Score: 0

... alt right snow flake...

You simply don't get it. The Alt-Right isn't about us being "special", it's about the Left not being special, or even rational.
You failed, which isn't at all surprising.
Re:Great... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 06:28 · Score: 0

He meant to say sheeple. Carry on, little lamb.
Re:Great... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 08:24 · Score: 0

The alt right are special in the way kids go to special school, a bunch of low iq bigoted morons. Fail doesnt get any bigger than Trump, not one acheivement, only an economy fixed by Obama to take credit for.
Small dicks, big guns, big trucks, the alt right dumbfuck starter pack.
Re:Great... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 09:35 · Score: 0

Given that today's college kids demand so much from having to deal with anything other than what their current view of reality is -- which one is the special school?
Re:Great... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 14:44 · Score: 0

Are you sure you're not alt-right yourself? You seem pretty alt-right.

Oh HELL no. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 00:04 · Score: 0

Yeah, about 10-20 (at the most) episodes of the original were some of the best TV ever made, but the other 200 were preachy garbage (and same for the remakes). This format is custom-made for that and the last thing the entertainment industry needs is ANOTHER way to lecture the proles.

Also, stop remaking shit.

Re:Oh HELL no. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · 2017-11-04 03:58 · Score: 1

I don't remember too much preachy, but I do remember a single twist ending lead into by a half an hour (or more) of mediocre dialog being somewhat common.

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How do you reboot what has no contiguous story? by Dirk+Becher · 2017-11-04 00:32 · Score: 1

It's basically just producing more episodes.

Re:How do you reboot what has no contiguous story? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · 2017-11-04 04:00 · Score: 1

Insofar as yet another gremlin-on-a-wing story or a kid who rivals Q for power, it will be a reboot. Retelling, I suppose.

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I thought they already had by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 00:40 · Score: 0

This time they just call it the cbs evening news.

In Soviet Russia by Hognoxious · 2017-11-04 01:07 · Score: 2

In Soviet Russia, horizontal and vertical control YOU!

Rats' cocks, that's other one isn't it?

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Re:In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 01:40 · Score: 0

You're confusing The Twilight Zone with The Outer Limits.
Your geek card has been revoked.
Re:In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 03:21 · Score: 0

In future, your mom should read the entire post to you before typing your reply.
She probably thought "r@t5' c0ck5" was a bit strong for an eight-year old.
Re:In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 05:53 · Score: 0

You've misread the situation entirely.
I'm old enough to remember those shows, so I'm also old enough to read two brief sentences and have only one of them register.

J.J Abrams by MrKaos · 2017-11-04 01:12 · Score: 1

Don't let him anywhere near it.

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Re:J.J Abrams by Misagon · 2017-11-04 01:36 · Score: 1

Also, don't let Damon Lindelof near it either.

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Re:J.J Abrams by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 03:44 · Score: 0

If you've gotta have a J.J. Abrams, might as well keep him out of the way working on reboots instead of making sure some new thing never has a chance to be any better than mediocre.

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MGTOW by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 02:14 · Score: 0

We are already living in "the Twiligith Zone of Gynocentrism and feminism".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL0pPyv5TUk

#MGTOW

Nooooooooo by JustAnotherOldGuy · 2017-11-04 02:49 · Score: 1

Oh jesus, they'll fuck this up too. Just wait and see.

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Next you'd have me believe... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 03:08 · Score: 0

...that a flamboyant professional wrestler would get elected governor...

It Doesn't Have to Be Bad by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 03:20 · Score: 0

I remember a cool, early episode from the 80's reboot (the Grateful Dead did the theme music) about a scientist who accidentally summons a demon by way of the formulas he had written on his chalk board. The words on the demon's red T-shirt kept changing with each cutaway. The screenplay became a war of wits between them, where the scientist seemed totally outmatched. Not quite the same as the lost glasses, but still fun and thought-provoking stuff.

Naah, they'll probably fuck it up. The producers have to permit writers to go way off the reservation, into the world of crazy and audience may not "get" it, for a show like this to be real, and today's producers are too chicken-shit to stray off the tried and-proven mystery / series / flawed main character develops from some past tragedy trope (as in latest Star Trek re-boot).

Re:It Doesn't Have to Be Bad by DontBeAMoran · 2017-11-04 04:30 · Score: 1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ?

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X-Files is also being brought back by walterbyrd · 2017-11-04 04:12 · Score: 1

Just thought I'd mention it.

Please stop.... by jwhyche · 2017-11-04 04:46 · Score: 3

For the love of god please go find some original ideals.

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Re:Please stop.... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 05:25 · Score: 0

Right. Since they are morons, they can't think of anything new, so they "reboot" old ideas, hoping to convince today's-born suckers that it's the real thing. Then, they recruit some other morons to rewrite episodes of the Beverly Hillbillies to have ghosts in them, make sure to have plenty of black people and muslims, and voila: pure horseshit with a cherry on top!
Re:Please stop.... by Your.Master · 2017-11-04 21:32 · Score: 1

I don't think your criticism applies in this case. Rebooting the Twilight Zone isn't like rebooting Transformers or Star Wars.
Twilight Zone is an anthology of short stories.
If old episodes are remade, that's another story. But it's not an unoriginal idea to reboot the Twilight Zone in the same way that it's not an unoriginal idea to write a book. It's the content that's original or unoriginal. Twilight Zone implies very little about the content.

needs to be on basic cable or free tv not that cbs by Joe_Dragon · 2017-11-04 05:10 · Score: 1

needs to be on basic cable or free tv not that cbs pay system (unless it's showtime)

Rod Serling rolling in his grave by p51d007 · 2017-11-04 05:15 · Score: 1

Because, the "reboot" will be NOTHING like the original. It will all be politically correct, "social justice warrior" anti American, pro socialist views and on and on and on. NOPE, pass!

Should be interesting by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 05:32 · Score: 0

Pretty much every show Hollywood makes today is more bizarre and surreal than the original twilight zone ever was.

One problem is, by fredrated · 2017-11-04 05:46 · Score: 3, Insightful

Twilight Zone was a thinking person's show, and it seems people don't want to do that anymore.

Re:One problem is, by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 08:27 · Score: 0

Yeh, Trump is absolute proof of the lack of thinking in the US, well apart from the stupid gun laws and lack of universal health care, which make the US look like a third world shithole, exactly what it is.
Re:One problem is, by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 08:54 · Score: 0

I predict a love interest lost/killed, lot's of explosions and running around for no apparent reason, and a few ongoing characters having pointless psychological conflicts under stress. You know, just like literally every other show on modern tv - different backdrop, different themes, same tired old plotlines and stereotyped characters (the serious but conflicted lead, the quirky geek girl, the humorless action man...).
Re:One problem is, by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 09:43 · Score: 0

Hahah yes, because all of the videos/blogs/articles interviewing college students demonstrate an abundance of thinking.
Re:One problem is, by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 13:35 · Score: 0

Hmmph. Hillary lost that election when she didn't put Bill Clinton's cloths on the White House lawn and burn them.
Re:One problem is, by Mike+Van+Pelt · 2017-11-05 13:49 · Score: 1

And virtually no one in Hollywood *can* do that any more.

Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 09:47 · Score: 0

Look, call it something else. Not every "ooh, that's a twist!" story-telling series centered around science fiction, technology, and society needs to be branded fucking Twilight Zone. Stop milking that and leave it alone. It's a very specific thing. Give your shit a new name and stop trying to ride coat-tails.

Not a Zero Sum Game by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 11:09 · Score: 0

Your attempt to turn this into a zero sum game makes you a loser. The fact that I refuse to be drawn in makes me a winner.

You chose poorly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA7J0KkanzM

Reboot of Twilight Zone is impossible by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-04 13:48 · Score: 0

The execs at Paramount/CBS apparently don't know their arse from a hole in the ground. The Twilight Zone cannot be "rebooted" since it was a collection of short stories in an episodic format. None of the stories were related to each other. Continuity must exist in order for a show to be rebooted and there is none in The Twilight Zone. If CBS/Paramount do attempt to serialize this like ST-DIS it will fail, big time.

CBS "family" values monopoly, not community by jbn-o · 2017-11-04 16:56 · Score: 2

They're also the "family" that brought you the Star Trek fan film restrictions. How did these restrictions come about? For decades these restrictions did not exist and yet Star Trek made lots of money; fans made and distributed derivative works of Star Trek and all of this co-existed with the Star Trek shows and movies. Fans even collected money and donations used for making more fan fiction for all to see and share. But when Prelude to Axanar came along and piqued CBS/Paramount's interest, and CBS/Paramount sued Axanar's production claiming copyright infringement (including some remarkable overreach on what fell under copyright power). The fan film restrictions came out of this.

Now the restrictions exist and CBS/Paramount has made it clear they see anything other than their own Star Trek stuff as competition and not community-building. Is an organization you want to help fund knowing you're helping to fund an organization that treats their fans this way? Adding misleading labelling to adversarial treatment: CBS wants you to pay them to subscribe to their newly-launched Internet streaming service which, among other things, is advertised as "commercial-free" but will still contain "promotional interruptions" ("certain on-demand shows will include "promotional interruptions," CBS said").

What relationship does Fox have with Star Wars fans? I certainly wouldn't recommend Star Wars fan fiction now that Disney owns so much of that (an ever growing part of everything to do with Star Wars) since Disney is even more harmful helping fund a copyright term extension. If Fox treats their fans better, perhaps it's time to consider making The Orville fan fiction instead.

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Cigarette company sponsored Twilight Zone by Paul+Fernhout · 2017-11-05 14:44 · Score: 1

Rod Serling had to smoke on camera as product placement because the Twilight Zone -- like many other popular TV shows -- was sponsored by the Chesterfeld cigarette company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"Liggett & Myers [who produced Chesterfeld cigarettes] sponsored Dragnet, both on radio and on TV, during the 1950s. The 1954 theatrical version of Dragnet also had Chesterfield product placements, such as advertisements in scenes taking place at drug stores and news counters, or cigarette vending machines. Jack Webb as Sgt. Joe Friday was seen smoking Chesterfields in the movie and TV series. Also in the 1950s, Gunsmoke on both radio and TV was similarly sponsored primarily by Chesterfields and L&Ms. At the end of The Twilight Zone, for several seasons Rod Serling frequently smoked and promoted Chesterfields. In the 1940s and 1950s Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope, Bing Crosby, Perry Como, and Arthur Godfrey were among Chesterfield's official spokesmen; Chesterfield being one of the primary sponsors of the radio and TV programs of these stars during that time."

Sad how then and now so much evil addiction is foisted on the world in order to make a buck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
http://www.paulgraham.com/addi...
http://web.archive.org/web/201...

Smoking may have contributed to Sterling's tragic early death of heart attack at age 50.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"On May 3, 1975, Serling had a minor heart attack and was hospitalized. He spent two weeks at Tompkins County Community Hospital before being released.[66] A second heart attack two weeks later forced doctors to agree that open-heart surgery, though considered risky at the time, was in order.[67][68] The ten-hour-long procedure was carried out on June 26, but Serling had a third heart attack on the operating table and died two days later at Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester, New York.[69] He was 50 years old.[63] His funeral took place on July 2."

https://www.webmd.com/heart-di...
"About 20% of deaths from heart disease in the U.S. are directly related to smoking."

Was promoting smoking in order to make the Twilight Zone was in a way Serling's own deal with the devil? Was it a good deal? I enjoyed the show and learned some important thought-provoking moral lessons from it. I admire Stirling for making it. But the deal perhaps took decades away from his life and the lives of many viewers. It's perhaps yet another cautionary tale from ... the Twilight Zone.

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Re:Cigarette company sponsored Twilight Zone by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-05 20:58 · Score: 0

As the fool who started this thread, I have to say...
Thanks, Paul.
My very favorite Aunt, the Aunt who taught me how to use her Rolleiflex, the Aunt who sponsored my Parents in to this Country, smoked Chesterfields. She was single, and went to Church every Sunday, and drank whiskey and smoked Chesterfields. One after another after another.
We would watch TV together, while my Parents were sorting out the World's Problems in the Kitchen, while dinner singed.
My favorite Aunt is why I became a Physicist. Everybody should have a favorite Aunt, somebody who couldn't have Children of her own, so they spoiled their nieces and nephews rotten.
And yes, the Chesterfields finally got her in the end. Shall I be specific?
It started with her ankles, as far as I could tell. She coughed often, but everybody who smoked coughed often back then. She would visit, give us kids a little something marvelous, find her favorite chair, kick back with a Whiskey and a Chesterfield, and let her shoes drop... which in a couple of hours, would be difficult to put back on. Something pulmonary something edema.
Now, if she had been a normal Aunt, who didn't smoke or drink or show her nephew how to use a Rolleiflex, things might have been different. She would have been just another Aunt like most of you have, devoid of personality, and utterly forgettable.
"Was promoting smoking in order to make the Twilight Zone was in a way Serling's own deal with the devil?"
Nowadays it may seem that way. We know more than we did back then. But back then, Sponsorship was important, and it really didn't matter if the Sponsor was General Motors or Chesterfield. Everybody knew the game. Chesterfield sponsored Reagan... even though he didn't smoke and loathed those that did. (This is well documented. Reagan had this habit of emptying ashtrays whenever somebody lit up. Reporters tried to get a rise out of him, during a particularly pertinent question, by lighting up... and Reagan's Aides scurried to empty all ashtrays within sight before he had the chance to do so himself. Nobody could take Ronald Reagan seriously back then; he was just another Right Wing Hollywood Kook, like John Wayne. There was no chance that he could ever be voted in as Governor of California, so he was fair game for teasing.)
"Was it a good deal?"
We have "The Twilight Zone". We will always have it, and those that pay attention will go beyond what is seen in grainy Black and White. Serling was criticized back then and he is criticized now for exactly the same reasons: Intelligence has no place on Network Television. "The Twilight Zone" provided no answers, it just made asking questions almost acceptable.
I don't smoke Chesterfields. The Evil Empire failed there. But I do have some wonderful memories of somebody that did. So much so that my current book on 21st Century Imaging is dedicated to her.
Everybody should have a favorite Aunt.
Re:Cigarette company sponsored Twilight Zone by Paul+Fernhout · 2017-11-06 16:03 · Score: 1

Thanks for the interesting story, AC! Glad you had an Aunt like that. We had a family fried we called "Aunt" who broadened our world too. And good point about the importance of the Twilight Zone asking questions more than providing answers.

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