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FCC Announces Plan To Repeal Net Neutrality (nytimes.com)

FCC on Tuesday said it plans to dismantle landmark regulations that ensure equal access to the internet, clearing the way for companies to charge more and block access to some websites. From a report on the New York Times: The proposal, put forward by the F.C.C. chairman, Ajit Pai, is a sweeping repeal of rules put in place by the Obama administration that prohibited high-speed internet service providers from blocking or slowing down the delivery of websites, or charging extra fees for the best quality of streaming and other internet services for their subscribers. The clear winners from the move would be telecom giants like AT&T and Comcast that have lobbied for years against regulations of broadband and will now have more control over the online experiences of American consumers. The losers could be internet sites that will have to answer to telecom firms to get their content in front of consumers. And consumers may see their bills increase for the best quality of internet service. Note from the editor: the aforementioned link could be paywalled; consider the alternative sources: NPR, ArsTechnica, Associated Press, BBC, Axios, Reuters, TechCrunch, and Slate.

FTC Commissioner Terrell McSweeny criticized the move. She said, "So many things wrong here, like even if FCC does this FTC still won't have jurisdiction. But even if we did, most discriminatory conduct by ISPs will be perfectly legal. This won't hurt tech titans with deep pockets. They can afford to pay all the trolls under the bridge. But the entrepreneurs and innovators who truly make the Internet great won't be so lucky. It will be harder for them to compete. The FCC is upending the Internet as we know it, not saving it."

This is what the internet looks like when there is no net neutrality. Earlier today, news outlet Motherboard suggested we should build our own internet if we want to safeguard the essence of open internet.
In a statement, EFF said: It is worth reflecting on just how wildly unsupported by the public and wrong the FCC is on its effort to end an Open Internet. More than 1000 small businesses, investors, and technology startups in all 50 states have publicly opposed the proposal. More than 900 online video creators that produce content for more than 240 million viewers oppose the FCC plan. Over 200 international businesses and organizations have weighed in opposition. Fifty-two racial justice, civil rights, and human rights organizations have filed in support of the current rules. Dozens of ISPs across the country have told the FCC to leave the rules in place. Libraries, around 120,000 in total, from across the United States support retaining the Open Internet Order. Privacy organizations have told the FCC that its proposal would further degrade broadband user privacy and therefore oppose the proposal. State Attorneys General from Illinois, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine and Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Oregon, Vermont, Washington and DC support retaining the existing consumer protections. Sixty Mayors across the country have filed their opposition to the FCC plan. The National Association of Realtors expressed their support for keeping a legally enforceable Open Internet rule. And 1.52 million unique comments (as in people navigating the cumbersome FCC website directly to submit a statement rather than use a form letter website) were submitted in support of Title II and Network Neutrality versus only 23,000 supporting the FCC. A recent poll has found that 77 percent of Americans support retaining the current Network Neutrality rules (the poll broke it down to 73 percent of Republican voters, 80 percent of Democratic voters, and 76 percent of independents). The numbers are even higher when Americans are asked whether they support privacy protections, such as requiring ISPs to obtain consent from users before monetizing with third parties (85 percent Republicans, 82 percent Democrats, and 78 percent independents). So if the public and virtually every facet of Internet culture (including ISPs) oppose the FCC's plan, then why are we even going down this path? To put it simply: the FCC is not serving the public interest, but rather is serving the interests of the very few but massive vertically integrated ISPs that support the current agency's agenda.

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  1. Paywalled by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article saying that Net Neutrality is going to be dismantled is behind a paywall. This is the Internet 2017.

    1. Re: Paywalled by Gorobei · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Net neutrality has nothing to do with moderation.

      You browse at -1, you get to ignore the moderation you don't seem to like. All comments are still treated equally in terms of you getting to see them. That's net neutrality.

      If Slashdot starts charging money to transmit left-leaning comments, or reduces the bandwidth given to right-wing comments, that's non-neutral.

      Really, it is not strange to be pro-net neutrality in a world where carriers are both bandwidth providers and content producers.

    2. Re:Paywalled by grcumb · · Score: 5, Informative

      The article saying that Net Neutrality is going to be dismantled is behind a paywall. This is the Internet 2017.

      Allow me to offer a reasoned response... YOU STUPID FUCK.

      People who write material designed to inform and improve your sadly deficient brain have every right to ask as much as they want in return. The right to be paid for services rendered was never the issue, and people who continue to conflate this with the actual problems solved by Net Neutrality are a mind-fuckingly vivid reminder of how we got into this bad acid flashback of a political environment in the first place. So kindly educate yourself and stop fucking making the case for euthanasia. You're not being clever, and this is the opposite of funny. This is the Slashdot equivalent of SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES.

      Net Neutrality is not about stopping fair pay for services rendered. It's about blocking arbitrary and prejudicial behaviour that doesn't benefit the person who produced the content, and doesn't benefit the person who wants to download it. The only party it benefits is the person who owns the pipe. They're the ones who want to charge more depending on what they think the content is worth—not to you, but to them.

      So your Netflix content gets slowed down because your provider has a sweetheart deal with Amazon. Or you never see that Walgreen's has a better price on your medication because CVS inked a deal with your provider to remove their competition from selected searches.

      Yeah, you didn't think about that part, did you? The minute you remove the Net Neutrality provisions, you open the door to your ISP doing whatever the fuck it wants to your connection, up to and including MiTM'ing your SSL traffic. And if you think that can't happen, you've never been to China, or any one of dozens of other countries that intrude on secure communications.

      If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that market forces have yet to win the race against the Greater Idiot. Thanks for taking your lap in the race. You have been a Great Idiot, although sadly not nearly the Greatest.

      Hugs,

      The sane and sensible population of the internet

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    3. Re:Paywalled by Merk42 · · Score: 2

      Net Neutrality != free content

  2. Government should protect citizens from abuse. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wish the U.S. had a healthy government. Let's work toward that goal.

    1. Re:Government should protect citizens from abuse. by ne1av1cr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well you need to put those in place before we get rid of the Title 2 protections.

    2. Re:Government should protect citizens from abuse. by H3lldr0p · · Score: 2

      Lots of time in lots of places. What kind of example do you want? Do you want real world? Do you want experimental? Do you macro or micro examples? Seriously there are thousands of results a google search away. Why are you even suggesting that it be done this way? It's not a good way to govern a nation, let alone a nation such as the US. It's bad policy on a number of levels.

      But I don't think you want good, relevant policy. I think you don't want anything of the sort. I think you want governmental failure. Because your suggestion is how you get governmental failure. Lurching, suddenly from one idea to another disrupts personal and business planning. It hurts everyone but those making the changes. Save for those who already know what changes are going to be made. Like the ones backing Pai.

      So tell me, if you're so smart and know so much as to what the right policy is, what is it? If it's not incremental, predictable movement towards a common carrier status that can be planned and readied for, I'm all ears. What magic formula do you have to solve everything once and for all?

      ps. Be ready to cite peer-reviewed, publicly published articles and/or long term real world examples where your ideas have succeeded. Not just proposals from Tom, Dick, & Harry's Policy Page that's been hosted anonymously.

    3. Re:Government should protect citizens from abuse. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, what you don't understand is that the Internet used to run on phone lines. The "common carrier status" laws had the same regulatory effect as net neutrality. We didn't need it because we already had it under a different name.

      Special new net neutrality policies were needed as the major cable providers, who were never beholden to common carrier regulation, became the new ISP cartel. And we got it just in time.

      But now we are losing it. You will soon learn, first hand, just how important it is.

    4. Re:Government should protect citizens from abuse. by Solandri · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's government which allows ISPs to abuse the people in the first place. Net neutrality is only "needed" because most Americans only have one realistic choice of ISP. And they only have one choice because their local government has granted that ISP a monopoly.

      If the local governments weren't granting service monopolies, then there would be competition between ISPs. Any ISP which degraded Netflix's speeds as part of a ploy to extort money from Netflix would be shooting itself in the foot. Its customers would notice Netflix was streaming badly, hear from their neighbor that Netflix worked fine on their ISP, and they'd simply cancel and switch their service to their neighbor's ISP. No net neutrality needed. They're prevented from doing this only because their local government has sold them out and granted their ISP a monopoly. Net neutrality is trying to fix a problem created by government regulation, with more government regulation.

      If Ajit Pai and Trump truly believe in the free market, then they'll roll back net neutrality, then follow it up by prohibiting local governments from granting local service monopolies.

    5. Re:Government should protect citizens from abuse. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2

      Any ISP which degraded Netflix's speeds as part of a ploy to extort money from Netflix would be shooting itself in the foot

      Because people make the decision of provider frequently and that's the only point of difference?

      Look at cell phones. How was Verizon hurt when it was revealed that it exposed your name and history to websites you visit? Not at all, because most people don't understand what's happening and those that do are locked into multiyear contracts and forgot when it was time to renew them.

      Also, here's the part that confuses me with your story. Why would that second (or third) company compete on features/prices? Why even expand the capital to compete in a new market if you cannot make outraged profits? How would it be any different than the situation with the airlines?

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  3. Best chance at reversal of this in the near future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hope that the EFF's and ACLU's inevitable lawsuits are successful. Otherwise, good luck getting people to vote in the right people to enshrine into law some feasible NN protection.

  4. A Win-Win Scenario! by franzrogar · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm the Company. I do charge for:

    1) (End-user) Giving "faster" access to more part of the Web.
    2) (Websites) For adding them to the "faster" list.

    It's a Win-Win! Thank you very much Trump (and start paying me right now you thieves [aka "users"])!

    1. Re:A Win-Win Scenario! by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Comcast already tiers my internet and I pay for the Blast! one or whatever which has artificial boosts. I don't see a big difference here.

  5. Repeal of *2015* FCC Title II you mean ? by RedK · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Because that's what is actually happening. Rules that even the Obama appointed FCC chairman said were overreaching and would stiffle Internet growth, while not doing what Net Neutrality proponents were even asking for.

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    1. Re:Repeal of *2015* FCC Title II you mean ? by EndlessNameless · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Rules that even the Obama appointed FCC chairman said were overreaching and would stiffle Internet growth

      Except for the part where Wheeler's rules included built-in exemptions for the parts he thought were too demanding or inappropriate for the internet.

      What more do you want the guy to do? He fine-tuned the rules to exactly the level he wanted. Net neutrality advocates didn't get everything they wanted, but it was enough to prevent serious abuses.

      But sure, take his words and rules completely out of context if that's what you need to be right.

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  6. and so i announce my plan to prioritize traffic. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In light of this tremendous achievement by Chairman Pai, I and many other Slashdotters will now begin the efficient and productive streamlining of our internet traffic so as to prioritize content and improve the internet experience.
    These improvements include:

    1: null-routing all known advertisement servers.
    2: implementing our own caching DNS to avoid SRVFAIL redirection.
    3: Installation of noscript, adblock, ssl everywhere and other script and advertising element blocking extensions to our browsers.
    4: implementing open source VPN technology in our home networks
    5: returning our wireless routers -- which are used by many providers to advertise public SSID's for other network subscribers to use -- and implementing secured open-source solutions.

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  7. It won't happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As long as we have "news" outlets like Fox News misinforming people and people not willing to be skeptical, and the Republicans using Fox News to their advantage, we will continue to have this crap.

    The tax bill that was passed by the House will screw us in the end (except if you are a 1+ percenter) and the Senate's isn't looking much better.

    How did those people get elected? Because about half of our population believes in the non-sense that's spoon fed to them or vote on single (distraction) issues.

    1. Re:It won't happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Clinton did none of those things. She was never in a position to sell Uranium to Russia - indeed, that's not even the scandal! (The "scandal", which is also bogus, is she supposedly approved a Uranium ore mine sale to a Russian company after accepting a donation. Only the person who made the donation hadn't been linked to the Russian company for two years, having sold his stake completely, and AGAIN the approval was needed from numerous organizations unrelated to Clinton. It's a bust.

      Clinton did not collude with Russia, the Trump campaign did.

      Clinton is not responsible for her husband's behavior, but that said, it is highly unlikely any allegations of sexual harassment, let alone rape, are true again him, given he has been the victim of a smear campaign concerning this since 1991, a campaign that started in large part because Republicans were angry that sexual assault allegations against a Supreme Court nominee were made public. Bill Clinton's sex life has been under scrutiny since then, culminating in the revelation that... uh, he had a 100% consensual affair with Monica Lewinsky.

      The Obama administration's IRS never attacked citizens based on political views. It, as it is required to do by law, gave special examination to organizations claiming tax immunity that were apparently political given certain keyword and key phrases. One such key phrase was "Tea Party". Another was "Occupy". The Republicans admitted it was a fictional smear against the IRS today, as it happens.

      Hillary Clinton has not been shown to have lied under oath.

      Hillary Clinton's Husband did not threaten the head of the DoJ. That's just entirely made up.

      Hillary Clinton did not rig the DNC primary, she wouldn't have been able to if she tried, she doesn't and didn't run the DNC.

      You can't possible be dumber than you are.

      At least the GP didn't uncritically repeat seven complete BS conspiracy theories about someone knowing full well that she and her husband have been victims of a continuous smear campaign since 1991. I'm surprised you didn't mention Vince Foster.

  8. Re:and so i announce my plan to prioritize traffic by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if this can be achieved via HOST FILES. Anyone have any idea?

  9. Re:Net Neutrality is Actually Bad by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This will allow ISP's to increase their revenue and use that money to improve and expand their infrastructure.

    Haven't we been giving them millions in payments and tax breaks for years to do that very thing? Hasn't happened yet.

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  10. Re:Net Neutrality is Actually Bad by jenningsthecat · · Score: 4, Informative

    This will allow ISP's to increase their revenue and use that money to improve and expand their infrastructure. I'm actually for reduced latency and increased bandwidth, unlike many here it seems.

    Since I don't have any mod points now to downmod you as a troll, I'll take the bait instead. Dude! Do you really think AT&T, Comcast, and their like, really NEED more money in order to "improve and expand"? They're swimming in cash right now, and they still take, and make, every possible opportunity to charge more for less. And what good are "reduced latency and increased bandwidth" if you can only take advantage of them when connecting to the sites and services your provider has climbed into bed with, and when other traffic is artificially throttled just to encourage you to drink their particular brand of Kool-Aid? Fer chrissake, they're turning what should be considered public infrastructure into a series of private toll roads - are you seriously OK with that?

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  11. Re:We need to talk about the ECONOMICS by ArhcAngel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    AT&T, Comcast and Verizon have government rights of way that are not granted to others. This gives them an unfair advantage and control of who gets to play in what markets. They have continually fought third party access to their sites and when they are forced to grant right of way to third parties they deliberately make the process slow and unmanageable to discourage (sabotage) their competition. Take away those rights and I would be able to get behind your argument. Until then government controls need to be in place since government rights have been granted.

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  12. Making America great again by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 2

    All is on course to screw the little guy and give the big companies more power, more money and less incentive to promote a healthy open internet.

    It was fun while it lasted. Let the GREATNESS of ISP's dictating what we can access and how fast. Enjoy. Hope you guys got what you wanted.

    How long before the ISP's in America start turning the screws and cutting off access to all but their approved sites list? Sigh. Is there any incentives for ISP's to keep things open? Sure is a lot of incentive now to closed the doors and tighten the screws and start nickle and diming us to death.

  13. Meh by lexman098 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This honestly doesn't worry me too much. If the Trump admin can repeal the regulation so easily then the next democratic administration can re-institute it just as easily. The ISPs know this, so I doubt they'll invest too much in paid prioritization in the near future.

    1. Re:Meh by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What "next democratic administration"?

      Websites run by critics of the current administration will simply fail to load. From now on the Republican Party is the only party.

  14. Have you ever actually read Orwell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The irony is that you are quoting Orwell but apparently have never actually READ Orwell, because his whole thesis is about the dangers of GOVERNMENT. Using Orwell to argue for more government is literally the 180 degree opposite of logic.

    1. Re:Have you ever actually read Orwell? by Boronx · · Score: 3

      Obviously you haven't read Orwell, because a big part of his thesis is about language and how manipulating it can make people believe absurdities, like attacking rules that keep the Internet open will help to keep the internet open.

      He makes another point, that repeating lies loud enough and often enough makes it difficult to discern the truth, such as "his whole thesis is about the dangers of GOVERNMENT."

      Let's see, you have a loose social movement backed by powerful corporations dedicated to the theory that attacking internet openness will promote internet openness, vs. a loose social movement backed by a powerful government that until recently was dedicated to the theory that requiring internet openness is the best way to maintaining internet openness. I wonder which faction Orwell would find more disturbing?

    2. Re: Have you ever actually read Orwell? by quicks0rt · · Score: 2

      The irony here is that your "condition" is a regulation that prevents monopolies (which I agree is needed). Whose going to enforce that condition? That's right, a regulatory body of government. Good luck with your imaginary free market.

    3. Re: Have you ever actually read Orwell? by Puls4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is a load of horseshit.

      You know why LCD's where so expensive for so long? Because those same companies in 'free' competition agreed to jack the prices up. You CANNOT TRUST companies looking for profits to do anything with the interest of the consumer in mind. The sort of statement you're making is the same one Ajit P has made about the internet. And it's a complete lie.

    4. Re:Have you ever actually read Orwell? by greythax · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, I HAVE read it, and man did you REALLY take away the wrong lesson. His central thesis wasn't that government is bad, so be an anarchist. The dangers he lays out, very clearly, are ignorance, apathy, and cowardice in the face of growing injustice. GP interprets it far more accurately than you do. Ingsoc used doublespeak and paranoia to turn ITS PEOPLE against each other. Buying into this blind "government is bad" and "protecting innovation" is the very definition of being an Orwellian character.

    5. Re: Have you ever actually read Orwell? by The123king · · Score: 2

      Except the FBI investigated them and found they were price fixing: https://www.fbi.gov/news/stori...

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  15. Re:Net Neutrality is Actually Bad by darkain · · Score: 2

    Serious question: Just how much money do you think they need to increase their network capacity and reach new communities?

    https://www.divisionofwealth.c...

  16. Re:Best chance at reversal of this in the near fut by bjdevil66 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ajit Pai (and his GOP-appointed counterpart) had their minds made up years ago, and his doggedly stubborn position feels like it's based in ideology instead of the facts presented by his opponents.

    Just compare this PBS.org interview where Mr. Pai used the same selective dodging of the facts pointed out by NN advocates (especially John Oliver's piece on the subject back in the day) that don't support his point of view. Then watch John Oliver's simplistic but factually correct episodes from 2014 and 2017 - Part One and 2017 - Part Two on the issue.

    Either John Oliver (and his writing/research staff) or Ajit Pai is an outright liar about this issue. Any bets on who's the fibber? It's either a left-leaning comedian, or a former Verizon Wireless lawyer. (TIP: Don't bet the farm on this being a bad John Oliver joke...)

  17. Re:More government in your internet = China by sdinfoserv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just like building codes regulate that structures should be able to withstand earthquakes in earthquake zones, and that public buildings need fire escapes, and that you just can't dump garbage into rivers, lakes and streams, etc.
    So, yes, in that regard, most believe it's Government's job to setup protections - since corporations have shown time after time they put profit over safety or human life.
    It this case, Net Neutrality tells ISP's they CAN NOT sell your personal surfing behavior or prioritize one source over another. Without NN your ISP will be able to sell you not only the connection, but also a "bundle" where if you don't pay for the "sports bundle", your ESPN will crawl, or if you don't purchase the "entertainment" bundle, Netflix / Hulu or Amazon Prime will be too slow to stream in HiDef. Remember, you are already paying for the connection (which is the DEFINITION of ISP), and you've likely had data caps put in place over the past year or two. Repealing NN is nothing more than an estimate $8 BILLION hand over to ISP's with ZERO consumer benefit, reduced protections and increased cost.
    As far as "choice", most cable companies have used laws to ensure nobody else can compete in their market. I live in Seattle... My "choice" is Comast or DSL with Frontier... Ya, some choice.
    This just epitomizes why consumer protections are necessary and proves the our government is actually an oligarchy.

  18. Impact on the Citizens United decision by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful
    When the Citizens United decision was handed down by the Supreme Court, this was written by Justice Kennedy in the majority opinion:

    "With the advent of the Internet, prompt disclosure of expenditures can provide shareholders and citizens with the information needed to hold corporations and elected officials accountable for their positions and supporters."

    And now these same corporations have been given the freedom to control what you can see on the Internet.

    Oops!

    1. Re:Impact on the Citizens United decision by Xyrus · · Score: 2

      Yeah, hate to rain on Justice Kennedy's parade, but people are assholes. People with money and power are even bigger assholes. Had he a clue about fundamental human nature he would have easily seen how the ISPs were positioning themselves to subsequently screw everyone and own the country. Which party do you think the big ISPs are going to support? What political ads are they going to pepper their data streams with? What are they going to censor and block, or maybe just make it prohibitively expensive to get to?

      But this is what America wanted. They wanted to be lied to, deceived, and dragged over the coals. They wanted big business to run over them. The wanted the rich to trod them underfoot. They wanted to be screwed over.

      This is what they voted for. These are the consequences. Maybe next time they'll engage their brains instead of blind ideology before casting their vote.

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  19. Re:NN isn't the issue, competition is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Equality sounds nice unless you understand how Soviet and grim "equality" can get. I don't want equality. I want choices and excellence.

    The US education system has failed you and the rest of your compatriots. Choices and excellence do not spring up by magic in any type of market. Regulation is needed for that, we can debate to what extent but not the if. Without regulation all you get is freedom to get fucked in the ass by the corporations.

  20. Re:Big business IS big government (we need real fr by sdinfoserv · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would submit the 1st step is to alter how elections are funded. Removed the umbilical cord linking politicians to corporations.

  21. Re:NN isn't the issue, competition is by Karmashock · · Score: 2

    Because the only alternative to one extreme is another?

    Have a little class, license people to do it... I mean I would even be fine if only the stupid government could actually climb the pole and hang the wire if that makes a difference to you. Because the government doesn't screw up as often as anyone else, right?

    As it stands, it is the big ISPs or no one.

    I am not suggesting we go to some BDSM mad max all leather mowhawk anarchy here.

    Imagine if only the local cab company were allowed to drive on your roads. And if someone said "other people should be allowed to drive on the roads" you then suggested that we'd have just random people getting in cars with no licensing or training... basically going on insane murder rampages on the streets.

    its not reasonable.

    I am not suggesting anarchy. I am suggesting competition.

    Do not respond to that before you've given yourself time to think.

    Just be still with that as an idea in your own mind.

    Think about it.

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  22. I remember those days by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    It could potentially be the return of the likes of AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy, etc.

  23. Re:Can't feel sorry for the Americans... by budsetr · · Score: 2

    We keep trying but the rest of the world keeps buying all our shit and supporting these rich asshats. Please, stop doing business with us so we can get rid of them.

  24. Re:Laughably sad that the parent comment was downv by Zaelath · · Score: 2

    You can't have a discussion with ACs, it's like shouting into the darkness.

  25. Re:Best chance at reversal of this in the near fut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please try to keep in mind that virtually everything you ever loved or hated about the internet came about in the total absence of these so-called net neutrality rules.

    That's because the internet largely operated based on neutrality principles until recently, when some companies started "innovating".

    We need the rules now to enforce the status quo of the last several decades.

    Basically, we didn't need rules until people started stepping out of line. They're stepping now, so they need to be put back in line ASAP.

  26. Re:We need to talk about the ECONOMICS by ArhcAngel · · Score: 2

    There hasn't been a new "franchise" granted in 70 years. They are using their pre-existing mandates for the phone/cable lines but saying they aren't subject to the rules dictated (common carrier) in those agreements since they aren't phone lines anymore. They are playing the system from both ends and getting away with it! And when someone tries to get a "franchise" as you call it they spend lots of money at the state level to get it blocked at the local level. If that doesn't work they sue the local government for unfair competition! Hypocrisy at its finest.

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  27. Re: Fire up those VPNs by NHSdev · · Score: 2

    What VPNS? What TOR? Banned I'm afraid by your ISP Your lovely ISP now has complete control over what protocols and sites you connect to. Enjoy!

  28. Re:More government in your internet = China by pots · · Score: 2

    Regarding choice: the funny thing is that there is something in place to promote choice. The Telecommunications Act of 1996 had a provision to require line sharing by the telecomms. In other words, selling access to the infrastructure at bulk rates in order to allow for third party ISPs. This has never been implemented thanks to the FCC's decision to classify ISPs as something other than telecommunications services. A decision which was corrected in 2015. The same correction which Ajit Pai is now talking about reversing.