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Russia and The US Fight Over Who Gets To Extradite A Hacker (cnn.com)

An anonymous reader quotes CNN: A young Russian alleged to have masterminded a massive hacking of social networks including LinkedIn and Dropbox is now at the center of an extradition struggle between the United States and Russia. Yevgeniy Nikulin was detained in October 2016, in the Czech Republic capital of Prague, after US authorities issued an international arrest warrant for him. He was on vacation there with his girlfriend. A grand jury indictment filed in 2016 in California charges him with computer intrusion and aggravated identity theft, among other offenses. Nikulin denies all the charges. If convicted of all charges, he could face a maximum sentence of more than 50 years in prison and more than $2 million in fines.

But soon after his arrest, Russian authorities also sought his extradition. The Russian charge referred to the alleged theft from an online money transfer company back in 2009. The amount involved was $3,450... The Foreign Ministry in Moscow said soon afterward it was "actively working with the Czech authorities to prevent the extradition of a Russian citizen to the United States."

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  1. Re:Which? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know the backstory, but based solely on the summary, it sounds more like Russia just wants to get him back home where he won't face much if any punishment rather than letting him go to the US. He will then probably join the Russia "defense" industry (maybe as an offer he can't refuse).

  2. I don't want him you can't have him by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is just Putin reminding the current US administration who's boss.

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    1. Re:I don't want him you can't have him by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Funny

      Relentlessly portraying Putin as the demonic mastermind behind all that's going wrong in the West is wearing a bit thin for me. I have no connection with Russia, but I find much of the Kremlin's critique of Western (particularly US) foreign policy all too reasonable and plausible. Whether it comes from insincere actors or independent commentators, I couldn't care less; it's the content that counts.

      As for Putin himself, he's not the Antichrist. He's just a hard-headed pragmatist trying to keep Russia afloat, using whatever tools he has, which is a pretty unenviable task. The biggest threat to world peace is American imperialism, not Russia.

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    2. Re: I don't want him you can't have him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah we Americans kill political and journalist dissidents under the guise of accidents, too.

      Here's reality: one party will always have more power than others. Which one do you want? If you want Russia, side with them, because they'll do the same thing America does when the tables are turned.

  3. Re: Which? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's more likely that he's worked for the Russians before and they don't want him to tell the Americans all the details.

  4. If he's in Czech, then it's up to them. by mark-t · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... Not the US, not Russia. It's up to the Czech republic to decide which country to let him be extradited to.

    Or, they can decide to not allow him to be extradited at all. Regardless, it's up to them to weigh whatever they estimate the costs to themselves might be for making a decision that is unpopular with somebody else.

    Final answer, it's up the country he's currently in to decide when to allow, where to allow, and even *IF* to allow extradition. Full stop.

    1. Re: If he's in Czech, then it's up to them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      After all, this Male is in the Czech.

    2. Re: If he's in Czech, then it's up to them. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      The last time we picked the west, we got burned. So we picked the east, and we got burned. Hey, wait a minute...

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    3. Re: If he's in Czech, then it's up to them. by mark-t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Then they aren't really fighting... they are competing. There is a difference. Fighting suggests they are in conflict with eachother directly. Competing suggests that they are trying to each come out ahead of the other in a matter that is actually external to both.

  5. its the devil you know... by nimbius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Reminder: Aaron Schwartz was looking at 35 years in prison for nothing more than a clever wget script. Chelsea Manning was looking at 60 years in prison from Government prosecutors. Julian Assange would certainly see a life sentence, and Edward Snowden would likely be rotting in Guantanamo until death.
    Russia might not have the most open and free system of legal justice, but the US incarcerates more people than any other country in the world, including North Korea. You might want to roll the dice and see if Russia will at least attempt to be reasonable

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    1. Re:its the devil you know... by blindseer · · Score: 3, Funny

      the US incarcerates more people than any other country in the world

      We're number one!!! WOOOO! Yeah!

      USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

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    2. Re:its the devil you know... by dabadab · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You might want to roll the dice and see if Russia will at least attempt to be reasonable

      The problem with you, Americans, is that you are too comfortably couched in your democracy and rule of the law. Yes, it is not perfect but if you think it is anything near what goes on in Russia that clearly shows how clueless you are.

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    3. Re:its the devil you know... by meerling · · Score: 2

      The US incarcerates more people than North Korea, and our entire prison system is severely screwed up, but you can bet that North Korea murders/kills/executes more people, even if they don't brag about it.

  6. Re:Do they want to jail him or employ him? by Cederic · · Score: 2

    That was my immediate interpretation, yeah.

    50 years in a US prison - or share some details about your work. No wonder the Russians don't want him over there.

  7. Re:The Czech are already sucking American dick by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Informative
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  8. Re:Hopefully Russia succeeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is no justice system anywhere in the world. It's all law systems.

  9. I can't be fully sorry for him by guacamole · · Score: 2

    If this man is allegedly intelligent enough to break into Linkedin and Dropbox, than he should have known better than travel to a country that's an enthusiastic EU and NATO member. This is not a first. Some of the Russian black hat hackers or mobsters think they can con either russian companies or individuals or western, and then retire in some nice quiet bucolic place like Greece, Spain, or Czech republic.