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Prepare for the New Paywall Era (theatlantic.com)

Alexis C. Madrigal, writing for The Atlantic: If the recent numbers are any indication, there is a bloodbath in digital media this year. Publishers big and small are coming up short on advertising revenue, even if they are long on traffic. [...] In a print newspaper or a broadcast television station, the content and the distribution of that content are integrated. The big tech platforms split this marriage, doing the distribution for most digital content through Google searches and the Facebook News Feed. And they've taken most of the money: They've "captured the value" of the content at the distribution level. Media companies have no real alternative, nor do they have competitive advertising products to the targeting and scale that Facebook and Google can offer. Facebook and Google need content, but it's all fungible. The recap of a huge investigative blockbuster is just as valuable to Google News as an investigative blockbuster itself. The former might have taken months and costs tens of thousands of dollars, the latter a few hours and the cost of a young journalist's time. That's led many people to the conclusion that supporting rigorous journalism requires some sort of direct financial relationship between publications and readers. Right now, the preferred method is the paywall. The New York Times has one. The Washington Post has one. The Financial Times has one. The Wall Street Journal has one. The New Yorker has one. Wired just announced they'd be building one. (Editor's note: CNN is building a paywall, too.) Many of these efforts have been successful. Publications have figured out how to create the right kinds of porosity for their sites, allowing enough people in to drive scale, but extracting more revenue per reader than advertising could provide.

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  1. It didn't work the first time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And it won't work this time. You're just looking at a ton of closures and maybe some consolidation between whoever is left standing

    1. Re:It didn't work the first time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Too many people were using the HOV lanes in my state and tax revenue from gas sales dropped too low. Now they charge to use the HOV lanes, and no one uses them.

      I can't see this turning out any differently.

    2. Re:It didn't work the first time by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I'll pay for a hard/dead tree copy of something....

      I don't feel like paying digital. Just seems less of value on digital.

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    3. Re:It didn't work the first time by gnick · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't feel like paying digital. Just seems less of value on digital.

      For me it has nothing to do with the value of the content or digital/dead tree. I just don't want to pay for something that I'm accustomed to getting for free even if it's a bargain. Not entirely rational, but that's the 'logic' behind my motivation.

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    4. Re:It didn't work the first time by gnick · · Score: 2

      I'll never pay for anything advertiser-supported.

      Newspapers? Magazines? Movies with previews? A ride on a bus with a logo on the side?

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  2. A problem that has no easy solution by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a problem that needs to be solved. Since copying content has become easy, how do the people who create content get paid? How do news organizations pay reporters to investigate stories?

    There are no easy solutions.

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    1. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Funny

      Easy solution: Build a wall around the paywalls and make the paywalls pay for it.

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    2. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by OffTheLip · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Evolve that's how. I fail to see how this problem is different than how the printing press put the screws to other means of information dissemination back in the day. Whoever figures out the way ahead will win. I doubt holding your information hostage from readers will be the answer.

    3. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by cmaurand · · Score: 2

      So you're suggesting extending single signon to actually be a clearing house for paywalls? Not a bad idea.

    4. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by blahplusplus · · Score: 2

      There are no easy solutions.

      There are, the problem is the lack of human intelligence. A true independent media needs its own central bank to be immune to corporate influence, aka you'd build a media that had the ability to loan money to itself and build it into the system. That would be an anethema to the upper class however, you can see their feelings here about the common man:

      Former national security advisor on his reservations of the political awakening of the masses

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

    5. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by gtall · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think this is a good idea too. NYT's paywall is $15/mo. I presume Wash. Post is similar. That just two sites for $30. One quickly runs out of money to pay for a reasonable collection of different editorial stances and investigative journalism.

      The current situation also means small sites that do not need much to spew their "contents" have an oversize influence. They do not have to pay for investigative journalism, or quality op-eds.

    6. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by tattood · · Score: 2

      So you're suggesting extending single signon to actually be a clearing house for paywalls? Not a bad idea.

      This will end up with companies like Comcast or Cox that offer a "news bundle" service that you pay $50 a month for, and you get access to 10 different news sites. For an additional $10 a month, you get the premium package that includes Wall Street Journal and other sites.

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    7. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by sheph · · Score: 2

      And neither of them are producing anything approaching a fraction of that value.

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    8. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think this is a good idea too. NYT's paywall is $15/mo. I presume Wash. Post is similar.

      This is the current problem with such sites -- that's too expensive. Back when you had to subscribe to newspapers, they didn't cost that much even with the additional expense of printing and distributing physical paper.

    9. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by epyT-R · · Score: 2

      I would not trade all the negatives that come with single sign on dystopias just to fund screeds written by ideologues passing themselves off as journalists.

    10. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by brewthatistrue · · Score: 4, Informative

      In 2001, NYTimes increased newsstand prices in southern california to $0.50 with $1.50 for sunday.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02...

      I have no idea how much a delivery subscription cost at that time.

      That's $0.50 * 52 weeks * 6 days = $156.

      Add Sunday for $1.50 * 52 weeks * 1 day = $78.

      Add those and you get $234.

      A $15/mo subscription is $180.

      I am not sure how much of the NYT's costs come from the printing and distribution of phyisical newspapers, but I would have expected the prices to go down as a result of the digital editions.

      Then again, as someone else said, their costs are subsidized by advertising, so they aren't really passing the straight costs onto their users anyway. That's why many sites still have advertising even for their paying subscribers, which is a deal breaker for me.

    11. Re:A problem that has no easy solution by WheezyJoe · · Score: 5, Informative

      Then again, as someone else said, their costs are subsidized by advertising

      Their costs were also heavily subsidized by classified ads. Huge source of revenue for any newspaper, large or small, now completely gone thanks to Craigslist, e-bay, etc. etc. That's a large part of the revenue that has to be made up since the glory days before the Internet.

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  3. Problem by religionofpeas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I may sign up for one subscription, but I'm not going to get $10/month subscriptions for 20 different websites that I occasionally visit.

    1. Re:Problem by ZorinLynx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is the problem.

      It would be nice if there could be some sort of "online news bundle". Pay $10 a month and have access to a dozen or so newspapers. The system would distribute that $10 as appropriate to the papers depending on which ones I read the most.

      I don't want to have 15 different subscriptions! This is already becoming a problem in the streaming video world, with every company starting its own streaming service. I don't want it to become a problem for newspapers too.

      I have this desire to support the industry but don't want to have so many subscriptions. Find a way to bundle things and I may bite.

    2. Re:Problem by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I may sign up for one subscription, but I'm not going to get $10/month subscriptions for 20 different websites that I occasionally visit.

      The problem isn't really the number of sites, it's the per site cost. I'm willing to get multiple subscriptions, but most websites have a VERY inflated sense of what their content is worth.

    3. Re:Problem by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What is bad about having multiple subscriptions?

      I want almost exactly the opposite of you. IMHO, nearly every single "bundle" in my life is a scam, where someone is using something I like to get me to subsidize something I think is lame and worthless. WTF do I care if I'm paying multiple entities? That's easy; we have computers now. The total is probably going to be less, and even if it weren't less, I would almost certainly get more of what I want.

      What you are proposing is to lose all progress made in the last couple decades, and it sounds like I'd fund the people I like less than I do now.

      I want everything as fine-grained and micro-managed by me, as possible. (And just like the billing "problem"(?), we have computers now so what's-possible is going to be damn impressive.) When I "vote with my wallet" I do not want to fucking vote party ticket!! Every time I'm manipulated into doing otherwise, it's with resentment.

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  4. The amount of news I need to see has decreased by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If there's one thing 2017 has taught me, it's that national and international news is not essential information.

    1. Re:The amount of news I need to see has decreased by shmlco · · Score: 2

      If there's one thing 2017 has taught me, it's that accurate and factual national and international news is definitely essential information.

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    2. Re:The amount of news I need to see has decreased by tattood · · Score: 4, Funny

      If there's one thing 2017 has taught me, it's that national and international news is not essential information.

      Thank you for your valuable input, Mr President.

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    3. Re:The amount of news I need to see has decreased by sheph · · Score: 2

      Yes. Finding it is the challenge.

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  5. Paywalls don't help those big expensive scoops by klingens · · Score: 2

    You still neeed only a young, cheap journalist to write the recap, but now he also needs a single cheap subscription for the paywall. Can you finance those expensive investigative journalistic scoops on those few subscriptions from other journalists?

    DRM already tried this model and they lost: there only one cracker for the DRM was needed and the war was lost: the media is on bittorrent and OCHs. Good crackers are actually much much rarer than these cheap young journalists. It took almost around year for Denuvo to be cracked, BluRay longer I think, etc.
    All the scoops: less than 5 minutes for a recap to appear on all the other big sites. News works 24/7.

    And in less than 5 years it will probably be a deep learning algorithm by google or amazon that writes the recaps, like they can do sports news today already. It will be marketed as "awesome AI", which of course it isn't. So not even cheap young journalists will be needed anymore

  6. Re:Until it backfires ... by edtice1559 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe the reason that the internet is devolving is your unwillingness to pay. I pay for the New York Times, The Atlantic, The Economist, and The Washington Post. And they are well worth every penny. I have no idea why anybody would expect to get their news for free. Real journalism is a resource-intensive process that has to be funded. Now I don't *like* the current paywalls in that I often get blocked from content I've paid for since I haven't logged in on a particular device or linked a publisher to a specific account. But having the price for quality news set at zero is nonsensical.

  7. to make it work, go micropayment exchange by swschrad · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've been flogging this horse for maybe 20 years... central micropayments site for the media providers. Joe Surfer makes a deposit. every news site he now hits, there is a deduction to the provider to pay for the posting. why in hell can't they do this, and be assured of a wider, non-PO'ed audience providing cash?

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    1. Re:to make it work, go micropayment exchange by tattood · · Score: 3, Informative

      central micropayments site for the media providers.

      There's your problem. There won't be one central micropayment provider. You'll end up like the e-wallet (PayPal, Apple Wallet, Samsung Pay) where there are multiples and users have to put money in multiple providers. That, or the content providers will need to have accounts with all of the micropay providers.

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    2. Re:to make it work, go micropayment exchange by Aaden42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Jake Surfer here... Not sure I can speak 100% for my brother Joe, but if I have to think, "Gee... I wonder if I'm just gonna get scammed out of half a penny with a bunch of clickbate if I follow this link," you can bet I'd be following a whole lot fewer links. Also, why am I giving someone an interest free loan so they can hold onto my money and deduct some of it for every piece of clickbate I get fed?

      The problem is less lack of payment mechanism and more lack of quality / necessity. There are no shortage of places that provide reliable, relevant news. The supposed "journalistic integrity" that I might be willing to pay for gets eroded a little bit more every time ${majorNewsSite}.com parrots the prevailing party line without even a scrap of effort to contradict obvious lies and policy 180's.

      There will be a lot more digital blood to bathe in before anything of value is lost.

    3. Re:to make it work, go micropayment exchange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right, it's only Fox that does it... The others are bastions of objectivity. Seriously?

    4. Re:to make it work, go micropayment exchange by Agripa · · Score: 2

      I've been flogging this horse for maybe 20 years... central micropayments site for the media providers. Joe Surfer makes a deposit. every news site he now hits, there is a deduction to the provider to pay for the posting. why in hell can't they do this, and be assured of a wider, non-PO'ed audience providing cash?

      And then it becomes third party data subject to mass surveillance for use against you in court with the added bonus of demonstrating a monetary transaction across state lines. It is not like this is not already the case but why make it easier? No thanks.

      Let me know when I can pay in untraceable cash.

  8. Re:I wonder by shmlco · · Score: 2

    "I refuse to pay for anything on the internet."

    Then you get nothing but the crap you deserve.

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  9. Re:Okay, and... by gtall · · Score: 2

    Nope, there are too many people who are happy with the echo chambers they visit. They wouldn't recognize propaganda if it danced naked in front of them.

  10. Nope, just a simple one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Easy and simple are not the same thing. Easy was letting 3rd party companies manage advertisement sales (and of course get a cut) for the publisher.

    Simple is going back to direct-sales marketing management. Let bloggers and YouTube use 3rd parties, NYT, WaPo, and more should be selling their valuable screen real-estate directly and reaping all the money from that.

    I mean... damn people. Its not complex, just more work. Since the YouTube Adpocalypse many YouTubers have started doing sponsored content (many more than were before all the kerfluffle). Even controversial left- and right-wing vloggers are managing to put together advertising deals to support themselves. And most of them are idiots!

    I've been on about this for years now, because this lack of managing one's own content is terrible for everyone, even investors. 3rd party ad networks are garbage. Advertisers have little control over where their ads are displayed (because its not about the content of the pages, its about the person looking at the page). Content creators have little control over what is advertised on their pages for the exact same reason! And this is the world its leading to, with more and more people choosing to block ads, with more and more "controversies" over ads being shown next to controversial content.

    Paywalls are just a great way to stop growing your audience. Sure, you can cannibalize your existing audience and survive on them for a while, but they are nothing more than life-support for a failing business. Go back to the old ways and find better ways to modernize them. Put people back into the system for a while, and make sure they stay there, because AI is simply not going to catch up anytime soon, and the people running the ad networks care as much about content creators and advertisers as the guy in India cares about any of the 7 corporations in the US he's answering the phone for. Ad networks need to show more, and get more clicks, and to do that, they cheat. Just like that call center in India wants you off the phone as fast as possible to take the next call because they get paid by call volume and no other metric.

  11. Nothing will change. by Alypius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People will continue to read a headline for free, make assumptions based on their beliefs, and convince themselves they know what the article talked about.

  12. Re:Until it backfires ... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't mind paying, but I do mind paying AND being annoyed.

    I dropped my NYT subscription because it showed the same unstoppable video, the same annoying adverts and the same Nicholas Kristof whining. I expected the latter but not the former.

    And quit pestering me to get a gift subscription to somebody else.

    Absolutely tasteless. So no money to them.

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  13. Re:Until it backfires ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe the reason that the internet is devolving is your unwillingness to pay

    You're joking, right? The internet devolved into a shithole of ads, malware, and scams from the very first days of Flash, popups, and those goddamned "punch the monkey" ads. And it's only gotten worse.

    Over time, the degree to which you need to block 3rd party javascript, analytics, and other crap has gotten insane. I'd say the average web page has around 10 external parasites ... and I'm sorry, but I didn't sign up with them and didn't agree to their terms of service, which is why I block them ruthlessly.

    Trusting any online entity with your actual name or financial information is just making you a target for getting your information stolen when they inevitably get hacked.

    Sorry, but the greedy douchebags and assholes started this, and the reality is they've pretty much fucked up the whole game for everyone else.

    For now, there's a remarkable amount of national broadcasters around the globe with good quality free content to let you get different editorial slants. But most media in the US these days is increasingly owned by a hand full of rich assholes, who I have no intention of enriching.

    So, you'll forgive me for not giving a fuck, when ads have been a source of malware and other bullshit for almost as long as we've had web browsers. Kill off some of those parasites, give me an internet I can trust, and sites who I can rely on to have some decent security, and we'll talk.

    But incompetent idiots with shit security are just the icing on the cake as far as why the paid internet can go fuck themselves.

  14. Cancelled my Wired print subscription around 2014 by rickb928 · · Score: 2

    Having subscribed since the second issue in 1993 or 1994, starting with the third issue. they finally priced me out of paper, despite design and my personal preference for the tactile experience kept me until my max price was finally exceeded.

    Now I read the occasional article, but I found I wasn't that interested after all. A paywall will just make that a less frequent occurrence.

    And nothing of value will be lost for me.

    Of the other paywalled publications, most object to my adblocker so vehemently I avoid the 'free' stuff the would have permitted me to read. and nothing of value is lost there either.

    I wish them luck. They will need it.

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  15. Adult Check: grown-ups can pay for nice things by tepples · · Score: 2

    I've been flogging this horse for maybe 20 years... central micropayments site for the media providers.

    That existed 20 years ago, and it was called Adult Check. Subscribers gained access to all participating sites, and sites were paid per page view. I guess if you ignore the erotica on the network, you could explain the name as "Because grown-ups can pay for nice things."

    The problem comes when a single company operates both an ad network and a micropayment network. Such an operator has an incentive to track viewers' browsing habits across the Internet in order to build a dossier on their interests. For example, Google operates AdSense/AdWords on the one hand and Contributor on the other.

    A micropayment provider will appear more trustworthy to viewers if it doesn't have ads as a side business.

  16. Combination of subscription and ad revenue by tepples · · Score: 2

    the problem would seem that the advertisers are not willing to pay enough to support the number of pages that visitors look at

    Correct. This is the model of print newspapers, print magazines, and pay television. Neither subscription revenue alone nor advertising revenue alone is enough to fully fund the production of works of authorship without, say, making every pay TV channel as expensive as HBO. Only the sum of the two is sufficient.

    Is the subscription price too high?

    Yes in many cases. $25,000 per year for one article that happens to be exclusive to the Bloomberg subscription is far too high for the vast majority of individual readers. Even a more modest $4 per month is cost-prohibitive for someone who reads only one article per month from a given site. Anything lower than $4, however, and the commission that a merchant pays to a payment processor for each transaction begins to dominate.

    Static inline images from the originating website.

    Does this mean that you propose to eliminate the intermediary ad network or ad exchange? If so, how would you expect a smaller site to afford to hire ad sales personnel in order to find advertisers and sell ad space directly to them?

    Or you could charge the advertiser more for the ad impression.

    Publishers already charge the advertisers more for what the Internet advertising industry calls "rich" ads. But publishers have come to rely on the increased revenue for rich ads as the new normal.

  17. Sell Bundled like Texture does for Magazines by atrimtab · · Score: 2

    The solution is bundle publications for a fixed price per month. Texture sells access to about 200 magazines for $10/month on phones and tablets, but not on the web.

    See:

    https://www.texture.com/

    Of course, this works much like the much derided Cable TV bundle. Don't think of it as a TV bundle. Think of it as Netflix for newspapers. The monthly costs are spread across enough content that purchasers do not feel ripped off even if they only read a subset of the offerings.

    Here is the list of magazines Texture offers:

    https://www.texture.com/all-ti...

    Texture magazines are somewhat searchable. There are highlights and even some daily news.

    What we don't know with Texture is how all the various publishers are being compensated from the monthly subscriptions fees readers are providing.

    I won't pay $2 for a magazine on Google, but I will pay $10/month for access to over 200 magazines. It keeps the rest of family happy too.

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  18. Re:I wonder by WheezyJoe · · Score: 2

    People STILL don't know what Net Neutrality is about.
    Net Neutrality is not that all content should be free from content creators. Paywalls are just fine. Net Neutrality is about what the guy-in-the-middle can do, your ISP, the guy who's supposed to just shut up and deliver the packets, but who now thinks he's got the right to add a little extra for himself.

    Net Neutrality rules prevent your ISP, and any intermediate provider between you and your content, from inspecting what it delivers to you before it delivers to you, and charging the sender a fee to deliver it to you.

    Think Comcast, which owns Universal, billing Disney for the delivery of its packets along the last mile to your house. Why? Because Comcast owns the wires and the equipment between you and the rest of Internet, because streaming Disney movies requires a lot of Comcast's bandwidth (think equipment upgrades, more fiber, angry customers saying service sucks), and why should Disney get all the money (from your subscription with Disney) when Comcast's wires are crucial to you consuming the content? The MBA's at Comcast feel like they are doing Disney a service, providing this last mile of delivery, and with their monopoly over subscription territory, they got Disney by the balls, so it's time to give 'em a squeeze.

    Net Neutrality means delivering Internet is boring... shut up and deliver, regardless of content or sender. On December 14, this rule will disappear (on a party-line vote), and delivering Internet will become super-exciting, because ISP's can discriminate between one packet and another, throttling some content and expediting others. So, Disney may have to charge you a dollar more to stream that movie because, too bad, you're on Comcast and Comcast throttles non-Universal content; your friend on FIOS may get Disney cheaper because Verizon chooses not to throttle Disney packets. Or maybe Disney will just hike up subscription fees on everybody, just to be safe. Gee, ain't de-regulation great. May weasels eat Ajit Pai's eyes out and piss up his nostrils.

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