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Cryptocurrencies Aren't 'Crypto' (vice.com)

Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai, writing for the Motherboard: Lately on the internet, people in the world of Bitcoin and other digital currencies are starting to use the word "crypto" as a catch-all term for the lightly regulated and burgeoning world of digital currencies in general, or for the word "cryptocurrency" -- which probably shouldn't even be called "currency," by the way. For example, in response to the recent rise of Bitcoin's price, the CEO of Shapeshift recently tweeted: "don't go into debt to buy crypto at these prices." "Crypto Stocks Rise," read a headline on Tuesday from the trade publication Investor Business Daily. But the financial blog Seeking Alpha outdid them all by publishing a post titled "Tales From The Crypto." Excuse me, "the crypto" what? As someone who has read and written about cryptography for a few years now, and who is a big fan of Crypto, the 2001 book by Steven Levy, this is a problem. "Crypto" does not mean cryptocurrency. The above are just three examples picked at random, but if you don't believe me, just search "crypto" on Google News or Twitter. On the internet, "crypto" has always been used to refer to cryptography. Think, for example, the term "Crypto Wars," which refer to government (originally the US government) efforts to undermine and slow down the adoption of unbreakable communications systems. By the way, the book Crypto isn't about Bitcoin. It's about cryptography, and more in particular, about the cryptographers who fought the government in the so-called Crypto Wars.

169 comments

  1. Blockchain-currencies. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It just rolls off the tongue and into the ash heap.

    1. Re: Blockchain-currencies. by UrbanMonk · · Score: 1

      What about Peer-to-Peer currencies?

    2. Re: Blockchain-currencies. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MathMoney.

    3. Re:Blockchain-currencies. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blockchain-currencies? How about blockhead-currencies!

      Kryptos (written here in transliteration from Greek letters since Slashdot doesn't do Unicode) is a Greek adjective for "hidden". How much are you trying to hide?

      As long I've said: Bitcoin is money with metadata. There is only so far you can go in hiding your transactions. I don't doubt that multiple security agencies have already done a pretty good job at working out maps of transactions using the blockchain.

      I take the use of the standalone word "crypto" to mean "cryptocurrency" rather than "cryptography" is pretty much a non-issue. Invariably, I use words like "cryptography" or "cryptographic" anyway. People using trendy little handles like "crypto" deserve what they get: imprecision.

      And people depending on the "secrecy" of Bitcoin deserve what they get: discovery.

      Captcha: fisted

  2. I.R.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Records and tapes.

  3. Let's Just Reuse 90s Buzz Words by DatbeDank · · Score: 5, Funny

    We would benefit from just calling everything "cyber" and replacing hashtags with AOL keywords.

    1. Re: Let's Just Reuse 90s Buzz Words by UrbanMonk · · Score: 1

      Meet me in the 'freewarez' room. -= Insert retro looking ASCII =-

    2. Re:Let's Just Reuse 90s Buzz Words by zlives · · Score: 1

      cyber-currency is more appropriate anyway...

    3. Re:Let's Just Reuse 90s Buzz Words by hey! · · Score: 1

      If you wrote an Eliza-like program to put "cyber-" prefixes before common nouns, you could call it "Cybercyber", of "Cyber-squared".

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    4. Re:Let's Just Reuse 90s Buzz Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I blame the hackers. Not the cybercriminals of course, the actual hackers who hack the code.

    5. Re:Let's Just Reuse 90s Buzz Words by nickersonm · · Score: 1
      Unfortunately the US DOD already does the former. For whatever reason they love 'cyber':
    6. Re:Let's Just Reuse 90s Buzz Words by Tomahawk · · Score: 2

      No. These currencies use strong cryptographic hashing and cryptographic signatures, so 'crypto' is more accurate than 'cyber'.

    7. Re:Let's Just Reuse 90s Buzz Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think of the children and buzz the 00's! Nukular and nuke currencies are the new hip-hop-hurray. Hash currencies are a much better name for the instrument, but then we would soon be in the murky world of the currents of hash and tags. Won't somebody think of the children!

    8. Re:Let's Just Reuse 90s Buzz Words by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      We would benefit from just calling everything "cyber" and replacing hashtags with AOL keywords.

      Only if we could figure out how to synergize the paradigms.

  4. The pedantry is strong with this one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tech, Pharma, Retail, Cyber... we could write similar articles about each.

    Don't expect media and the markets to use the officially approved nerd dictionary.

    1. Re:The pedantry is strong with this one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called GNU/Linux. GNU/Linux. Why won't you fucking call it GNU/Linux.

      - rms

    2. Re:The pedantry is strong with this one. by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      Kryptocurrency is just nerdspeak for dogecoin.

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    3. Re:The pedantry is strong with this one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hack / Crack

    4. Re:The pedantry is strong with this one. by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Surely "Kryptocurrency" is copyrighted and trademarked by DC Comics.

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    5. Re:The pedantry is strong with this one. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Hack / Crack

      Ah yes, the most headbangingly desperate marketing failure since that vain attempt to get people to pronounce Canoe Men's Cologne "Can-no-way."

    6. Re:The pedantry is strong with this one. by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      Don't expect media and the markets to use the officially approved nerd dictionary.

      Calling a police officer a cop was once a derogatory remark, you see how that one worked out.

    7. Re:The pedantry is strong with this one. by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      It's called GNU/Linux. GNU/Linux. Why won't you fucking call it GNU/Linux.

      - rms

      Cause that's encryption and from the code provided by Phil Zimmermann's PGP.

    8. Re:The pedantry is strong with this one. by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      T Reginald Gibbons tried to clarify the difference in this memorable article

      http://adequacy.org/stories/20...

      Best thing about it is the comments from l33t h@x0rz who couldn't spot the whole thing was designed to troll them. Good times, man. Good times.

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  5. Sure it's crypto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like cryptozoology is.

    1. Re:Sure it's crypto by skids · · Score: 1

      Ah, I'm gonna cut the cryptographic community some slack here and say they get to put their foot down... after all we already stole "code" from them to now mean software.

    2. Re:Sure it's crypto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Individual works of software are called programs. Stop calling them codes.

    3. Re:Sure it's crypto by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Appers are gonna app.

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    4. Re:Sure it's crypto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like cryptozoology is.

      Quick show of hands - how many of us pronounce it "cryptozooology" ?

    5. Re:Sure it's crypto by zlives · · Score: 1

      its called code when its published and pushed on users with more than a few zeroday and other bugs.
      if it ever reaches maturation/testing to be bug free then it can claim to be a program.

    6. Re:Sure it's crypto by michael_wojcik · · Score: 1

      after all we already stole "code" from them to now mean software.

      As usual we are in the dim twilight of Poe's Law here, but just in case you were serious: no, no we did not. "Code" does not exclusively mean "secret code", and is not solely the domain of cryptology.

      Etymologically, "code" means simply "writing" or "book". As a term of art, its use for systems of formal expression, and documents using such systems, is at least as old as its cryptological use.

  6. Not gonna fly by KlomDark · · Score: 1

    Any more than we were able to convince the marketing shitheads that a GB is 1,073,741,824 not an even 1,000,000,000

    Maybe we can do something like was done to differentiate like Gigibyte vs Gigabyte? Cripto instead of Crypto?

    Or Bloodto instead of Cripto? ;)

    1. Re:Not gonna fly by XanC · · Score: 1

      1,073,741,824 is a much more even number than 1,000,000,000 is.

    2. Re:Not gonna fly by skids · · Score: 2

      I think you meant Gibibyte.

      "Blockchain" is the most dominant of the more accurate alternative terms to "cryptocurrency" as far as I can tell. Not that that does not have different meanings much broader than financial ledgers in cryptography, but it would be a smaller loss to lose that term to the abyss of meaningless drivel that fills the news cycle than losing "crypto" itself.

      But "blockchain" doesn't sound gangsta enough for the trendroids and adderall-addled Crameresque wannabees, I would bet.

    3. Re:Not gonna fly by Vairon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The International System of Units (SI) defines the prefix giga to represent 10^9 (1,000,000,000). Therefore a GB (gigabyte) means 1,000,000,000 bytes.
      The International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) defines the prefix gibi with symbol Gi to represent 1024^3 or 2^30 (1073741824). Therefore GiB (gibibyte) means 1,073,741,824 bytes.

    4. Re:Not gonna fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really don't give a flying fuck. We started called 1024 bytes a kilobyte before the rest of the world decided to regulate it.

      And what has regulation given us except for ISO9000 sweatshops full of shitty java devs writing JMS apps full of race conditions and calling themselves software engineers?

    5. Re:Not gonna fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll start using GiB or gibibytes after I stop seeing the term "metric tonne". The correct term should be "megagram"

    6. Re:Not gonna fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are there degrees of divisibility by two? My divisible-by-two number can kick your divisible-by-two number's ass? If we put 1,073,741,824 and 1,000,000,000 on a boat in the Pacific without any food and check back in a month are we going to find 1,073,741,824 is the survivor?

    7. Re:Not gonna fly by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Those names are fringe newcomers; "kilobyte" meant 1024 bytes for over half a century before a sleazy hard disk manufacturer paid a committee to introduce these conflicting definitions.

      You don't step over entrenched usage without a good reason. Heck, even when there's a very good reason, conventions are usually kept: see +/- signs for electricity for example. This case is nothing but a marketing gimmick that makes us suffer.

      And I have an extra reason to care, personally. I've been using this login name for years well before those bozos got slapped with a lawsuit.

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    8. Re:Not gonna fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you meant Gibibyte.

      Maybe he means "Giblibyte"

    9. Re:Not gonna fly by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I prefer "kilokilogram".

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    10. Re:Not gonna fly by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      weird way of putting it,
      but 1,073,741,824 is divisible by 2 32 times while 1,000,000,000 is divisible by 2 only 9 times.
      So if a number is even if it is divisible by 2, it would reason it is more even if it is divisible by 2 more than once. In this case 1,073,741,824 is 23 times more even than 1,000,000,000. Or is that 32/9 times more even?
      I think I need to go lie down for a spell.

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    11. Re:Not gonna fly by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

      The rest of the world meant "thousand" by "kilo" thousands of years before there was ever such a thing as a byte. "Kilo"/"mega"/"giga"/etc for powers of 1024 instead of 1000 were always just shorthand.

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    12. Re:Not gonna fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The SI and IEC treat giga and gibi as prefixes and give them precise definitions. That's fine but let us remember that these organisations are not authorities on the English language and that their opinions cannot settle the debate.

    13. Re:Not gonna fly by Capsaicin · · Score: 1

      1,073,741,824 is divisible by 2 32 times

      Isn't it 30 times (i.e. 2^30)? What am I missing?

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    14. Re:Not gonna fly by nickersonm · · Score: 1

      'Giga' was adopted by the SI in 1960 as 10^9.

    15. Re:Not gonna fly by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      I did, good catch, but I did a quick lazy lookup and this was the first result: https://www.collinsdictionary....

      But at least back in the 80s, I fucked a chick called Gigi (Margary) while her husband watched and some weird gay guy rubbed my legs...\

    16. Re:Not gonna fly by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      But let's instead comment on the Criptos vs the Bloodtos.

    17. Re:Not gonna fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >gibibyte
      I'm not adopting your babyshit faggot babble language, suck it.

    18. Re:Not gonna fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the shorthand worked perfectly. Everyone undersood what everyone else meant. Now nobody has any idea what somebody means when they say megabyte, and even when it's written down you can't be sure the author knows about the different units and is using the correct one. So now we can't communicate at all because you wanted to fix communication that worked perfectly well.

    19. Re:Not gonna fly by Tomahawk · · Score: 1

      The SI unit is GB, which is 1,000,000,000 bytes. G-anything is 1,000,000,000 anything in SI units.
      Hence why GiB came into being in order to distinguish between the SI unit and the power-of-two unit.

      This isn't marketing (although HD manufacturers were/are notorius for using the SI unit correctly, while knowing that your average techy uses the power-of-two meaning [incorrectly]), it's standardisation of scientific values.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    20. Re:Not gonna fly by Tranzistors · · Score: 1

      And the shorthand worked perfectly. Everyone undersood what everyone else meant.

      It worked like shit. Networking and storage always had MB = 1000 KB. For some weird reason Windows decided to report disk size in MiB and GiB sizes, while calling it MB and GiB and to this day I hear people complain that disk manufacturers are conning them. The only place where MB = 1024 KB ever made any sense is CPU, RAM and cache, since they really use powers of 2 in storage sizes. Disk sizes, file sizes, network speed have nothing to do with powers of 2, so they don't use them. OS X and Linux have switched back to correct units long ago.

    21. Re:Not gonna fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But bytes aren't an SI measurement. Bytes are an industry measurement and weren't even a standardized bit-size until the mid-to-late 1970's. And industry can use whatever the hell prefixes they want, even ones that resemble SI ones, and can define them however they damned well please.

      Gigabytes are 1024^2 bytes. Marketers can go fuck themselves. So can "standards bodies" that don't recognize decades of context-specific convention.

    22. Re:Not gonna fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those names are fringe newcomers; "kilobyte" meant 1024 bytes for over half a century before a sleazy hard disk manufacturer paid a committee to introduce these conflicting definitions.

      This is simply false. Hard drive manufacturers *always* used base 10 units to measure capacity, you can look it up.

      Floppy manufacturers, OTOH, sometimes used base 10, some used base 2, and some used a combination. It was a mess.

  7. I would hate to meet this author in person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Type of guy whose name is Patrick, but you call him Pat and his wife pulls you aside to tell you he prefers Patrick.

    1. Re:I would hate to meet this author in person by gnick · · Score: 1

      If there are 20 people at the party whose names all start with 'Pat', that seems reasonable.

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    2. Re:I would hate to meet this author in person by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      If there are 20 people whose name start with "Pat", there's a good chance several of them will be named "Patrick". What kind of party is that anyway? The anuual meeting of "People named Pat, Chris, or Sam"?

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    3. Re:I would hate to meet this author in person by slew · · Score: 1

      If there are 20 people whose name start with "Pat", there's a good chance several of them will be named "Patrick". What kind of party is that anyway? The anuual meeting of "People named Pat, Chris, or Sam"?

      With a name like "Pat" you never know...

    4. Re:I would hate to meet this author in person by gnick · · Score: 1

      If there are 20 people whose name start with "Pat"...

      "Pat" was the example that AC gave, so I used it. There are more ways to complete "Crypto-*" than there are "Pat-*". I didn't think I needed to explain that.

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  8. OTOH, by msauve · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you get outside your bubble and use a dictionary, "crypto" refers to "a person who secretly supports or adheres to a group, party, or belief." Neither the prefix crypto- (from the Greek kryptos - hidden) nor the shorthand crypto are exclusively owned by cryptographers, who themselves misappropriated it from it's (former) definition.

    If you want to mean cryptography unambiguously, just say cryptography. But don't complain when someone else uses crypto as shorthand. Pot, meet kettle.

    And, there's nothing wrong with calling them "cryptocurrencies," they're a medium of exchange based on cryptography.

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    1. Re:OTOH, by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

      The currency part is being dropped, which makes it just as ambiguous. I think the article is a fair critique of the current vernacular.

    2. Re:OTOH, by msauve · · Score: 1

      Context, man, context.

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    3. Re: OTOH, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      agreed.
      "crypto" means "hidden" to educated people, and also to people who are well-versed in cryptography: "hidden writing".
      As another example, during the Spanish Inquisition, Jews who publicly converted to Christianity, but continued to secretly practice Judaism were called "crypto-Jews". They were not digitized.

      Likewise, to some, if not most, bitcoin and clones are a way to hide ownership and more importantly transactions. Spending cash can be used to hide transactions, but having cash in your possession proves ownership to the authorities. Crypto currencies in theory can be used to hide both, so we can call them that.

    4. Re:OTOH, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      get outside your bubble and use a dictionary [...] misappropriated it from it's (former) definition.

      Physician, heal thyself.

    5. Re:OTOH, by Luthair · · Score: 1

      The part that you're ignoring is that the crypto in cryptocurrency was there as a reference to cryptography, the term was already using crypto = cryptography

    6. Re: OTOH, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get it, it's like the biographer presenting a cease-and-desist order to the biologist to stop using my prefix.

    7. Re:OTOH, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      crypto- graphy
      hidden- writing

      It seems that this is a perfect term. The shortening it to crypto is the issue.

      crypto- currency
      hidden- money

      Not the best name for something that has a public block-chain.

    8. Re:OTOH, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The part you're ignoring is that this is how language works. Words change meaning over time particularly when they are abbreviated forms. You need to use context to understand them, much like all other language you use.

    9. Re:OTOH, by hey! · · Score: 1

      Yes, for example "crypto-fascism" means a hidden affinity for fascism. "Cryptobiology" is hidden or secret biology.

      "Cryptography" comes from the root words meaning "hidden writing" or "secret writing".

      People are sloppy with words; the only thing that really matters is whether that they make themselves understood -- presuming there's enough meaning in their utterances to even raise that question. If you want to play the word-police card in response to the sloppy use of "crypto", the deck is stacked against you here by etymology.

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    10. Re:OTOH, by Tim+the+Gecko · · Score: 1

      You can see McCarthyism and the "red scare" played out on this graph of "cryptocommunist" and "cryptofascist": https://books.google.com/ngram...

    11. Re:OTOH, by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      You might want to get a newer dictionary.

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    12. Re:OTOH, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTH Is "Graphy Writing" or "Currency Money"?

    13. Re:OTOH, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a poor etymological argument. It's all Greek: crypto- (secret, hidden) and -graphy (writing). Cryptography is in no sense misappropriated from its previous meaning.

    14. Re:OTOH, by LesFerg · · Score: 1

      It refers to a biological study of long-necked African wildlife.

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    15. Re:OTOH, by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      And, there's nothing wrong with calling them "cryptocurrencies," they're a medium of exchange based on cryptography.

      Is that why they are called that? I thought it was because they were obscure or hidden (or bogus) currencies, similar to say cryptozoology.

  9. I don't understand that language is dynamic. by Edward+Nardella · · Score: 2

    My lack of understanding makes me react in strange and silly ways.

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    1. Re:I don't understand that language is dynamic. by gnick · · Score: 1

      Sometimes words literally change meaning. Keeping up is literally the hardest thing to do.

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    2. Re:I don't understand that language is dynamic. by Per+Wigren · · Score: 1

      Languages evolve because most people are too stupid to learn their languages properly.

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    3. Re:I don't understand that language is dynamic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being able to use literally to mean figuratively is literally the hardest thing to do.

    4. Re:I don't understand that language is dynamic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you conform yourself to properly learn your language when
      you can shape it to your liking?

    5. Re: I don't understand that language is dynamic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're virtually correct!! That's very unique!

  10. Great story, Seinfeld! by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

    Also, why do we park on driveways, and drive on parkways?

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    1. Re:Great story, Seinfeld! by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      You must have a short driveway.

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  11. Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We know

  12. You're Too Old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can tell the youngsters not to say Coder to mean Programmer and not to say DevOps to mean SysAdmin and not to say "a Software" to mean Software. You can insist on the old lingo and your old lingo will be the end of you.

  13. Lorenzo, I have one question for you by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

    Do u cyber?

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  14. Diluting Geek Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Geek culture is being co-opted by idiots. A solution for this problem is to foster a new geek elitism. Create elite communities that strongly enforce standards, and that reject the standards of the outside world.

    Slashdot would actually be a good place to start such a community, but we'd have to get rid of a few of the editors, first. (That's not sarcasm, it's the honest truth.)

    1. Re:Diluting Geek Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, geek culture was bought and paid for by social media moguls. The asking price was $0, duly paid. The free software movement said information wants to be free, take our hard work and use it to make tons of money, and that's exactly what happened. Now dirty neckbeard basement dwellers can't afford to buy their culture back.

    2. Re:Diluting Geek Culture by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      We'll make ourselves a new culture, with blackjack and hookers.

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    3. Re:Diluting Geek Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't you read my post? We don't have to "buy geek culture back". It would be sufficient to create an elite community that rejects the rich fat-cats and other individuals who have co-opted the culture.

      This sort of thing has certainly been done before. One example is the Punk Rock movement in the 1970s. For example, the Wikipedia article states that

      Some of British punk rock's leading figures made a show of rejecting not only contemporary mainstream rock and the broader culture it was associated with, but their own most celebrated music predecessors: "No Elvis, Beatles or the Rolling Stones in 1977", declared the Clash song "1977".

      In our case, this would be similar to rejecting celebrated geek predecessors who have sold out, such as Mark Zuckerberg and Slashdot's Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda.

  15. Like a Swiss bank account by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Your nations tax officials are going to find that amount and start asking questions.

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  16. that's not how language works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Words mean what people understand them to mean, not what you want them to mean.

    "Literally" absolutely does mean "figuratively". "Begs the question" absolutely does mean "invites this question". Etcetera.

    1. Re:that's not how language works by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I don't understand either of those things to mean what you say they do. So they absolutely do not mean that. Fun game, this.

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  17. Talk amongst yourselves... by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

    Cryptocurrencies are neither crypto, nor currencies. Discuss.

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    1. Re:Talk amongst yourselves... by ASDFnz · · Score: 1

      They are both. Discuss.

    2. Re:Talk amongst yourselves... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Cryptocurrencies are neither crypto, nor currencies. Discuss.

      True. I would use the term 'digital commodities' because their perceived value derives from the notion that the amount of each is algorithmically fixed. A currency is managed by a central bank to stay at a fixed ratio to the total value of goods they can be traded for.

  18. please help me i am confused by retchdog · · Score: 1, Funny

    I do not understand how a bunch of drinking glasses is capable of writing an article. This is so confusing! I think that the author is actually a person, but that doesn't make sense! The word "bicchierai" has always referred to plural drinking glasses, which is a slightly non-standard plural of "bicchiere" by the way. This person is not even a singular drinking glass, and as someone who has used drinking glasses for many years now, this is a problem! The author shouldn't even have the name "Bicchierai"!

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    1. Re:please help me i am confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also don't understand what this all has to do with supermans dog.

  19. Pedeantics Day by sycodon · · Score: 1

    This must be the weekly Pedant day.

    A whole story on how Crypto Currencies are not cryptography.

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    When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
    1. Re:Pedeantics Day by Tomahawk · · Score: 1

      I think he point is that cryptography isn't just about "crypto currencies".

      It's another example of people who don't understand the world of technology changing the meaning of a word from the technical meaning (crypto being short for cryptography) to the meaning they want it to mean (crypto being short for cryptography based digital currency, a subset of cryptography itself).

      It's like "literally" being changed to means "figuratively", mainly be cause people didn't understand sarcasm, and/or didn't know the work "figuratively".

      Or "Internet" now being spelt with a lower case I (internet) to mean "The Internet" and not "an internet". Again, the difference is a technical different that most people don't understand, so don't care about. (You'll never take away my upper-case I for Internet! Never!)

      So, yeah, I know where he's coming from. But the battle is already lost on this one, as always...

    2. Re:Pedeantics Day by smallfries · · Score: 1

      I didn't know it was that time already! The story wasn't really pedantic enough for me to realise...

      The term "crypto" is not short for cryptography as many people (incorrectly) believe. The term cryptography only refers to the making of codes. The correct term is cryptology - which means both making and breaking codes. This is the actual meaning that people are using when they refer to crypto - cryptology. The common usage of the term cyptography is slightly incorrect.

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    3. Re:Pedeantics Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. Cryptology is the study of cryptography and cryptanalysis.

      Any time you see the -ology prefix, it's almost certainly a field of study.

    4. Re: Pedeantics Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya duffa, -ology is a suffix! ðY£

    5. Re: Pedeantics Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gah! Invoking Muphry's Law. :)

    6. Re:Pedeantics Day by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Try to complete the whole thought inside your head before you write it down. What do you think “breaking codes” refers to?

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    7. Re:Pedeantics Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > What do you think âoebreaking codesâ refers to?

      Cryptanalysis.

    8. Re:Pedeantics Day by smallfries · · Score: 1

      So where is the error?

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    9. Re:Pedeantics Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Theory vs. practice.

      Cryptology is knowing how to make and break codes; cryptography/cryptanalysis is actually doing it.

  20. Obligatory Simpsons reference by saltydogdesign · · Score: 1

    Inflammable means flammable? What a country!

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    // This is not a sig.
  21. All those words, when once sentence covers it by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    "As someone who has read and written about cryptography for a few years now, and who is a big fan of Crypto, the 2001 book by Steven Levy, this is a problem."

    Right here is the author's true gripe - but he knows no one will care about something this trivial and stupid, so he writes an entire article attempting to convince himself and others that there's an actual reason other than his silly little snit.

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    #DeleteChrome
    1. Re:All those words, when once sentence covers it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I started reading it in a grumpy old man 'kids get off my lawn' voice. Towards the end it got to a reeaallly whiny girlie 'Guys, why can't we ever just do what I think is right, pooh!' voice.

  22. Too bad, too sad ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... you lost what you had.

    Look at "floppy."

    Yes, the very early removable storage was floppy, but when the rigid 3.5" drive came out, they were listed in Hardware Devices as "floppy."

    Look at "google," a verb meaning, "to search."

    "Crypto," will mean what the masses decide it will mean.

    Those who object will be labeled, "crypto-nazis."

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    It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
    1. Re: Too bad, too sad ... by clovis · · Score: 1

      "crypto-nazis"? I've always just called them "cryptos"

      hmmph. I just fought a battle with auto- correct trying to change "cryptos" to "cryptosporidium". That's stupid, I almost never say "cryptosporidium" I just say" crypto" and no one has ever asked me to clarify.

    2. Re: Too bad, too sad ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      {clarity needed}

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      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
    3. Re:Too bad, too sad ... by Pfhorrest · · Score: 4, Informative

      The "floppy" in "floppy disk" always referred to the medium inside the cartridge, not the cartridge itself. Even in 3.5" disks, that medium was a flexible, floppy film. In contrast to the hard ceramic plates of hard disks. Putting a hard plastic shell around a floppy disk doesn't mark it a hard disk any more than putting a HDD in a plastic bag makes it floppy.

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    4. Re:Too bad, too sad ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The magnetic medium in the 3.5'' floppy was still floppy, despite the hard casing, unlike the hard medium in hard drives.

    5. Re: Too bad, too sad ... by clovis · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I could, or was able to, clarify.
      I was only pointing out that no one had asked me to. Before now, that is. If I could now edit my previous post, I would change "no one" to "only one".

    6. Re:Too bad, too sad ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3.5" disks are very much floppy. It refers to the _spinning medium_ not the protective cover. Seriously, look it up. And you've been carrying this ignorance with a side of sense of false superiority for more than 30 years.

    7. Re:Too bad, too sad ... by mvdwege · · Score: 0

      The "floppy" in "floppy disk" always referred to the medium inside the cartridge, not the cartridge itself.

      Really, no. The term "floppy disk" was coined when the medium was still encased in a flexible plastic sheath, not a hard cartridge as in 3.5" disks.

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    8. Re:Too bad, too sad ... by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

      Nevertheless it is not the enclosure being referred to, it is the medium inside it. Magnetic storage media is either hard or floppy, and a 3.5" disk is not a hard disk.

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      -Forrest Cameranesi, Geek of all Trades
      "I am Sam. Sam I am. I do not like trolls, flames, or spam."
    9. Re:Too bad, too sad ... by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      When it was 8" and 5 1/4" media, it was the entire assemblage which was called "floppy", because it was. 3.5" disks only got the name as a kind of legacy, because by then the term had become more or less interchangeable with 'removable low-capacity magnetic storage'.

      Really, is it so hard to just admit you were wrong?

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    10. Re:Too bad, too sad ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it was 8" and 5 1/4" media, it was the entire assemblage which was called "floppy", because it was.

      Sure, why not just make shit up when you have no fucking clue what you're talking about?

  23. Welcome to the world where words are hijacked by MikeTheBike · · Score: 0

    ... lite the Hacker and the Troll.

    When the common Joe starts to use a term like this it all goes straight to hell... not one technical or otherwise defined term that goes mainstream survive.

    So welcome to the new brave world of the Crypto Hacker Troll! :-P

    1. Re:Welcome to the world where words are hijacked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "One point twenty one jigga-watts!"

  24. The dollar isn't currency either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Constitution doesn't allow federal legal tender, yet here we have legal tender? The Federal Reserve Note is Fake Currency and exist to cause wars on purpose.

  25. Tales from the Crypt(o) by CannonballHead · · Score: 2

    I would have thought it was a play on the name of an old TV series, based on a quick Google search for "Tales from the Crypt," which just sounded like it would exist. So, maybe the problem is not understanding interesting writing.

  26. Losing battle by mysidia · · Score: 1

    Cryptographers like the meteorologists screaming STOP --- Clouds are these formations of moisture and dust in the sky, they have NOTHING to do with hosting, and Cloud Computing is one of the most obscene utterances ever. Too late.... too late.

    1. Re:Losing battle by CWCheese · · Score: 1

      so very unfortunate that the cute cloud symbol we old guys used as diagram shorthand has now taken on a life of its own.

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    2. Re:Losing battle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol, mod parent up

  27. Seems like a play on "Tales from the Crypt" to me by doug141 · · Score: 1

    Because good headlines need to be short and clever.
    For those who don't remember or know Tales from the Crypt:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  28. DIY Cryptocurrency Mining... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want mine your own crypto currency, you need a motherboard with 19 PCIe 1X slots to plug in 19 GPUs and a couple of 1200W PSUs.

  29. of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of course there's one jackass social justice warrior that wants to change the name of things a decade (or centuries) later

  30. "I could give a damn" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome to how we English have long felt about your abuse of language.

    Always cracks me up seeing Americans whining about this stuff (e.g. the way the word "social" is used as a noun, or any number of fascinating quirks of Indian Standard English).

    You don't get to complain.

    1. Re:"I could give a damn" by tepples · · Score: 1

      any number of fascinating quirks of Indian Standard English

      Do any of these quirks involve needing a techneecian to remove each and every wirus from your Vindows dextop?

  31. yawn by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    there are a lot of words that don't mean what they used to:

    "crypto"
    "drone"
    "AI"
    "president"

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    -Styopa
  32. Monero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess this guy hasn't heard about Monero.

  33. There's a lost cause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'Crypto' is my word and I want it back.

    Get over it.

  34. Hash by dohzer · · Score: 1

    So it's nothing to do with cryptohashes?

  35. Yet we use.... by CoolCash · · Score: 1

    the word 'cloud' and there is no cloud. It's just someone else's computer.

  36. True by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    But they're definitely hypsto and hypesto.

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    1. Re:True by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But they're definitely hipstuh and hypestuh.

      FTFY.

  37. Similar sounding, more accurate: kleptocurrency by raymorris · · Score: 4, Funny

    Given that what you do with these things is give money to an exchange that will steal from you, I propose we call them kleptocurrency.

  38. Let me translate . . . by taustin · · Score: 1

    . . . this into plain English:

    "Wah, wah, wah, language usage changes and I can't make people talk my One True Way."

    Somebody change subby's diapers.

  39. Yes, they are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They use cryptographic mathematical operations to create the appearance of scarcity. Human attraction for shiny things is the currency part.

    Together that "creates" "value"

  40. Sure, he has a point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meanwhile, I as a professional fisherman am deeply offended by all you computer geeks describing your shit as a "net," which robs a term from my line of work.

    Give me an f'ing break...

    1. Re: Sure, he has a point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, pornographers are offended that you just stole the F word to express your angst. When it is really a beautiful act between consenting adults.

    2. Re: Sure, he has a point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Ahem*. Professional scatologist here. Please refrain from using the word "shit" in such an imprecise manner!

  41. Cryptos by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    PC, supposed to mean personal computer but it's synonym with Windows these days.
    Lag, supposed to mean network latency but gamers use that word to describe a low frame rate.
    Etc.

    Fight all you want, if there's 100K people saying it right and 50 million people saying it wrong then it's the wrong usage that will stick.

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    #DeleteFacebook
  42. BLOCKCHAIN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BLOCKCHAIN! BLOCKCHAIN! There can I have some venture captial now?

  43. How a GB equals a GiB by tepples · · Score: 1

    1 GB is 1,000,000,000 bytes (1,953,125 512-byte sectors) of usable capacity plus 73,741,824 bytes of spare space for remapping up to 144,027 worn sectors.

  44. Cloud defined by tepples · · Score: 1

    Or more specifically, someone else's farm of rapidly provisionable partitions of computers.

    1. Re:Cloud defined by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's an abstraction, a vague "network service" that was drawn as a cloud on application design diagrams.

      Real "cloud computing" IMHO treats services as a commodity, i.e. you don't care which vendor supplies your database storage and backup, and it's easily transferable to another vendor. If it's just someone else's computer(s), you've merely got client/server, not cloud.

  45. This is unprecedented! by Angst+Badger · · Score: 1

    The general public has never before misused a technical term. Surely this heralds the end times.

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  46. hack or crack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    same diff. always dumbed down by media for the lowest common denominator.

  47. Yeah, and "gay" isn't about faggots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Language evolves, unlike creatures. Deal with it.

  48. Words on the Move by epine · · Score: 1

    John discusses his recent book, Words on the Move, in the following podcast: John McWhorter on the Evolution of Language — August 2017

    There are words like "behoove" that are in trouble. You do hear it every once in a while. "Ruthless" is a word, but "ruth", which used to be a word, isn't. So, that kind of thing, that words catch on and other words die out—I was aware of that. But, your book just opened my eyes in an incredible way. Especially, since I have to confess, I'm a bit of a language snob.

    So, too, can 'crypto' be dismembered.

    The podcast wasn't my favourite episode. It was a bit too strawman for me, perhaps because I already know this material fairly well.

    We just finished watching an older Coen film, A Serious Man. For a quantum physicist who can infallibly fill chalkboards with bra–ket notation without hardly blinking, he sure does gape like a clueless fish when he discovers his wife is capable of forming alternate plans.

    Words are like wives. Just when you think you've got it all sorted out ... change happens.

  49. no worries mate ! by swell · · Score: 1

    Within a week or two it won't be 'crypto' any more ...
    it will be cleverly reduced to 'crip'; far more hip.
    But that will annoy the LA street gang called 'the Crips' and may lead to mayhem.
    Thus a slight turn of term to 'crap', which will stick, as crap tends to do;
    causing future historians to struggle to understand the odd term.

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    ...omphaloskepsis often...
  50. Authoritative LWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://lwn.net/Articles/414452/

    Bitcoin: Virtual money created by CPU cycles
    November 10, 2010 - Nathan Willis

    The Bitcoin virtual currency system was launched in 2009, but has gained increased exposure in recent months as a few businesses and entities announced that they would support transactions in Bitcoins (abbreviated "BTC"). Bitcoin is not the first attempt to create an entirely virtual currency, but it supports some very interesting features, including anonymity and a decentralized, peer-to-peer network structure that verifies Bitcoin transactions cryptographically.

  51. propose new name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CryptoC?

  52. Welcome to America. by lindseyp · · Score: 1

    You 'merkins have been corrupting the English language for decades, and this habit of shortening a word to its otherwise widely-used prefix annoys me on a regular basis.

    What is a 'semi' ? I had to look that one up.

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  53. It certainly is crypto. by foxjazz4003 · · Score: 1

    I have crypto, get over it already. And yes, it is real money. It is a currency. Now go find a real job.

  54. -o- by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Good luck with that. The masse's shape language.

  55. Cryptogram, cryptoquote, cryptoquip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WFUQJFZSIJLAKDSQJSPXEZLAF!

  56. Shortening a word... by SinisterEVIL · · Score: 1

    Cryptographic Currency... It's just shortened to Crypto... Chill Out y'all “I used to be with it, but then they changed what ‘it’ was, and now what I’m with isn’t it. And what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary to me.”

  57. Useless rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the majority of people doesn't know crap about crypto war or cryptography, the therm CRYPTO will be used for these currencies, doesn't matter you crying over it.

    Majority does not mean logical or correct.

  58. Self-congratulation disguised as pedantry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, what's the problem?

    There is no problem. The author just wanted to make sure everyone knew how much of an expert he is in cryptography -- that he had a t-shirt before anyone else had even heard of the band.

    God, I am so glad I don't work in tech anymore. The industry is run by insecure divas. Sorry, that's right. You prefer to be called "rockstars" ("diva" is too feminine and you're all a bunch of big-swinging-dicked Alphas).

    I miss the old days when the tech industry was run by nerds.

  59. Language changes. Get over it. by tillerman35 · · Score: 1

    Dudes who creep on post-pubescent but under 18 girls are pedophiles.
    Folks who hate gay people but aren't even slightly afraid of them are homophobes.
    People use the word "anymore" in place of the word "currently," anymore.

    And apparently, now "crypto" means "funky internet money," not cryptographic keys, or a prefix to the word "jew" meaning "pretending not to be one."