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Vine Co-Founder Dom Hofmann Says He's Working On 'a Follow-Up To Vine' (theverge.com)
Last year, the six-second video social media app called Vine was shut down by Twitter. The Verge reports that Vine's co-founder, Dom Hofmann, says he's working on "a follow-up to Vine," where he will be funding the project himself outside of his current company, Interspace. "I'm going to work on a follow-up to vine. i've been feeling it myself for some time and have seen a lot of tweets, dms, etc.," Hofmann tweeted.
Unfortunately, he didn't elaborate on his plans. It's possible the follow-up site could be another short-term video app similar to the original Vine, or some other project that will look to build on the foundation Vine started. Would you be interested in a new Vine-like social media app, or did Vine never really appeal to you to begin with?
Unfortunately, he didn't elaborate on his plans. It's possible the follow-up site could be another short-term video app similar to the original Vine, or some other project that will look to build on the foundation Vine started. Would you be interested in a new Vine-like social media app, or did Vine never really appeal to you to begin with?
We can't wait for more worthless social media platforms! ;)
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This is the kind of hard-hitting journalism that has been sorely missing on slashdot lately. Thanks Beau.
Slashdot...journalism? lol.
This is BIG news! ...
Maybe ...
Sort of ...
Possibly ...
I don't know...
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
And how exactly does that happen?
Here comes 12 second videos in your stream. Oh man, I can't wait!
I don't like social media but I do miss the 6 second science
Vine is as ridiculous as Twitter, as a poinzless variation on something that is already existing.
It is just a file sharer ... limited to videos ... limited to a few seconds.
*gasp*
Like you couldn't just use a normal video hoster for this. Hell, give FTP a faster search function, some extended attributes, and enforce a certain file system structure, and you got the exact same functionality! Or actually even more!
As it could replace YouTube, Twitter, Soundcloud, Blogs, Sharehosters, and pretty much everything else like that out there.
This is the same insanity as "apps": There's an app for everything because there HAS to be an app for every permutation of combinations of functionality!
Because apparently, the iDiots that come up with this shit either do not understand the concept of a computer (its universality being the point!), or deliberately transform it into a fixed-function appliance/gadget so you cannot treat it *like a computer*, but HAVE to get a different tool or each different job.
Can't wait fam.
Literally a 100 times better!
"Privileged Ball-scratcher Scratches Balls Again"
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My attention span is shot from years of social media abuse, so I didn't read the article.
Could someone post a 9 second video of them summarising it for me?
if it that is what keeps him busy and happy.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
An astounding new concept in social networks - videos consisting of just one single frame!
This disruptive new idea will both save bandwidth and allow for communication in ways that have never before been possible!
Hoping for the return of Bat Dat, he was great!
Jeremy Vine, Tim Vine.
I simply do not give the least phuck for another short-video-whatever-app. Never used, never will.
Would you be interested in a new Vine-like social media app, or did Vine never really appeal to you to begin with?
Does BeauHD think this is Digg?
I look forward to not using it.
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1. Have a quirky hook. e.g. six-second videos, 140 character limit, funny video filters, etc
2. Build massive user base.
3. Buy out other social media start ups with quirky hook.
4. Do nothing.
The consolidation of weird ideas, and their eventual rot is going to eventually lead to an Internet monoculture.
...and who gives fuck!
Twelve second videos?
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Its not about file distribution it's about social file distribution.
YouTube is very popular, but why is there no direct competitor? Because YouTube is a complete social ecosystem. Vine video compilations cropped up fucking everywhere after it died, it clearly meant something to the people that created for and consumed it - the guys who made it though had no idea how to make it pay for itself, this is where V2 comes in. The challenge today though is more complex because of two things:
1. Google now knows that advertisers don't want to have their family fun car commercial bookending a beheading video
2. Advertisers noticed that when they pulled ads from YouTube it barely impacted their profits
So we have Advertisers kinda waking up from a coma realizing that nobody gives a shit about their ads online AT THE SAME TIME Google decided to manage what ads are seen where or even if at all because of *nebulous reasons relating to fuzzy feelings*
Anyway, I feel like YouTube is ready for a MySpace-style collapse, or at least it will just shift into being strictly the online version of a cable channel full of Vevo and heavily produced crap. Some other site will pop up (maybe Twitch?) where actual humans make actual content worth watching with direct monetization that they have to work to maintain (again, Twitch is already this just with a gaming bent).
It will revolutionize the way we think about social media.
No text files, no directories, no databases, no network structures, no social networks, no comment trees, etc.
Just one huge in-(pemanent-)memory record web, spanning the globe.
With each node having content and a list of sub-nodes.
The way the WWW was originally intended.
And also its own textbook example for why it is so bad.
Because it, itself, got shortened to much, that it lost what made it good.
The good principle is not as simple: To keep information 1. density at the right level for the reader, and 2. well-structured.
Otherwise "Yo" would be the best of all messengers, because it has nearly the maximum shortness. (It only allows you to send a "yo". Nothing else.)
- A higher length is better if it contains even more information too. Except of course when it becomes too dense for the reader to handle.
- And structure allows you to go as deep as you like on each element of your current "directory".
E.g. you can skip the in-depth analogy parts below. or just read the bold line, and maybe the stuff above.
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This is analogous to the results of research on what makes a genius a genius. They were very good at
1. having their tasks be at juust the right level of difficulty. (Aka "balancing" in game design parlance.)
2. structuring things. Because active mental memory can only hold 6-9 things at a time. So if you group things, you can now hold the whole group, and look up the elements in permanent memory if needed. Do this in a tree or graph of overlapping sets, and you can do crazy feats.
(The 3th element that they forgot, is that a goal that resonates with the person is needed too. Another game design principle.)
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It's also analogous to Notepad VS Emacs. They are BOTH bad at this.
Notepad is simple but offers no power. Emacs is powerful, but at an insane price.
Ideal would be something as simple to use as Notepad, but as powerful as Emacs.
The name for that elusive property is somewhere between "emergence", "efficiency" and "elegance". Which I made my software design philosophy.
The good principle is not as simple: To keep information 1. density at the right level for the reader, and 2. well-structured. Otherwise "Yo" would be the best of all messengers, because it has nearly the maximum shortness.
I'd argue that writing in general, people tend to err towards not dense enough, which is why limiting length helps. People are more geared to talking with conversations where the information density corrects itself through interaction with the audience. With writing, rambling on is more natural than condensing.
Scientific proposals, newspaper writing, twitter, book editors, they all converge on having short limits because of this.
Vine was mildly amusing for about 10 minutes. But a short video loop is not a tweet-- you would see it over and over until you manually advanced to the next video. What is needed is a stream that, akin to a twitter feed, will play one loop after another in a continuous movie as new segments are posted. I want to just sit back and watch all my follows in a mashup, not have to constantly click to get to the next one...