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Two Technologists Create Black Metal Album Using An AI (theoutline.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Outline: Coditany of Timeness" is a convincing lo-fi black metal album, complete with atmospheric interludes, tremolo guitar, frantic blast beats and screeching vocals. But the record, which you can listen to on Bandcamp, wasn't created by musicians. Instead, it was generated by two musical technologists using a deep learning software that ingests a musical album, processes it, and spits out an imitation of its style. To create Coditany, the software broke "Diotima," a 2011 album by a New York black metal band called Krallice, into small segments of audio. Then they fed each segment through a neural network -- a type of artificial intelligence modeled loosely on a biological brain -- and asked it to guess what the waveform of the next individual sample of audio would be. If the guess was right, the network would strengthen the paths of the neural network that led to the correct answer, similar to the way electrical connections between neurons in our brain strengthen as we learn new skills.
Led Zeppelin said that "The Song Remains the Same". And these largely do.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
This kind of reminds me of an old Microsoft project that didn't pan out. The "commercial" is pretty cringe inducing and not terribly interesting, but it gives you an idea of what it's supposed to do. The real fun was when people fed vocal tracks for popular songs into to see what it would do, often to comedic results: Queen, Johnny Cash, and Motörhead produce some amusing outcomes.
I don't listen to much black metal, but these results seem a bit better, or perhaps just far less silly.
But still better than most Black Metal.
this sounds like shit
Sorry, but did the person writing this story up actually listen to the thing? Not only are the songs totally indistinguishable, but they also suck. They are noise. The drums sound awful. The mix is harsh. The music, if you can call it that, is lame and boring. Granted, I don't have any familiarity with the Krallice album they used to train the AI - perhaps all those descriptors apply - but this hardly seems like any kind of real achievement. You could just slice up an existing black metal album into granules and then stick them all back together at random and achieve similar results.
The headline makes the point, but the summary doesn't tell what AI was used.
They've created a random white noise generator that utilizes AI to harmonize the random white noise. We have brought order to chaos, my friend.
and they sound pretty much the same live
It sounded really terrible, but so did the original album it was based on.
That stuff sounds like normal music being put through an industrial shredder anyway. But can your computer sing the blues?
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This is exactly what Stephen Hawking was warning us about. https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...
This indicates to me that they're not really there yet. If you really want to compose something interesting, train the AI in a wide range of music first, then have it focus on a particular artist to mimic, with a goal being to produce songs that sound like they were produced by the same artist. Of course, to be really good, you would need to also handle lyrics, not just the music.
That has to be some of the worst shit I've ever tried to listen to. It's worse than hip-hop or country. I could put random notes on a page and it'd sound better.
If that's AI, then we have nothing (or everything) to fear.
They must have used the same AI to come up with names for the songs.
Congratulations, this is the first time AI has decomposed.
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The linked sample track is sold for 7 USD. I am not sure I would accept to listen to it again if I was given that money.
creimer actually died this summer and we've all been interacting with an AI.
But it mostly sounds like random noise. It has potential but not now.
Although I was never a fan of black metal I was big fan of Pantara and a few other metal bands when I was younger. And I'm kind there with you, this music is pretty bad. But I don't discount the fact that this is a pretty near feet of programing and AI training. So good on them for this first attempt.
I've been involved with generative music since the 1980s. You could say it's a serious hobby of mine.
Making a generative black metal album like the one in the article is trivial, and could easily have been done a decade ago.
If you want to hear the state of the art in generative music, I'd recommend checking out the most recent album and the earlier four iOS apps from Brian Eno. His latest, Reflection was some of the best music in any genre released on record in 2017. It's light years ahead of this junk, which is an insult to the many talented black metal musicians.
You are welcome on my lawn.
I have a feeling that pop music has been written exclusively by algorithms since the early 2000s. Sounds that way, anyway.
I for one welcome our \m/achine overlords
That's a pretty complicated and convoluted way to do a remix of an album.
Additionally, if a genre of music becomes so predictable that computers can synthesise it (or even dice, in the case of the German game Musikalisches Würfelspiel), then it's pretty much dead and it's time to move on to newer genres.
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I don't like it, but then again I don't really like the band this AI learned from.
Feed it music I like and see what it comes up with - it seemed to stay true enough to the original music
or if that is how music of that genre is supposed to sound.
I don't hate. I just honestly can't.
It sounds like they used lossy high-level compression on an existing album.
That's like stating JPEG compression can be taught to create cubist artworks by turning down the compression quality.
The "songs" are not songs. They have no structure, no musical coherence, weird transitions, they don't event sound like they're really played by musicians.
They might have picked black metal because it *sounds* like random noise at first, but compared to other AI-generated music like Flow Machines, it's pretty average and in no way revolutionary.
It sounds like relatively random disjointed music with a semblance of rhythmic pulse. The guitars don't even have the guitar sound of black metal. It's also not mixed very well.
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I am not the source of the quote, but I agree with it this time.
Last time I heard it, my father used it to describe my my electric guitar jams back in the mid-80's. He was right. So I took up the Tuba.
Miss you dad.
\m/ Venom performing Black Metal live \m/
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Is it better than the original "computer composed" piece? https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
None. None more black.
...it's honestly no worse than 90% of "real" black metal.
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