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ISPs and Movie Industry Prepare Canadian Pirate Site Blocking Deal (torrentfreak.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TorrentFreak: A coalition of movie industry companies and ISPs, including Bell, Rogers, and Cineplex are discussing a proposal to implement a plan to allow for website blockades without judicial oversight. The Canadian blocklist would be maintained by a new non-profit organization called "Internet Piracy Review Agency" (IPRA) and enforced through the CTRC, Canadaland reports. The plan doesn't come as a total surprise as Bell alluded to a nationwide blocking mechanism during a recent Government hearing. What becomes clear from the new plans, however, is that the telco is not alone. The new proposal is being discussed by various stakeholders including ISPs and local movie companies. As in other countries, major American movie companies are also in the loop, but they will not be listed as official applicants when the plan is submitted to the CRTC. Canadian law professor Micheal Geist is very critical of the plans. Although the proposal would only cover sites that "blatantly, overwhelmingly or structurally" engage in or facilitate copyright infringement, this can be a blurry line.
"Recent history suggests that the list will quickly grow to cover tougher judgment calls. For example, Bell has targeted TVAddons, a site that contains considerable non-infringing content," Geist notes. "It can be expected that many other sites disliked by rights holders or broadcasters would find their way onto the block list," he adds. While the full list of applicants is not ready yet, it is expected that the coalition will file its proposal to the CRTC before the end of the month.
"Recent history suggests that the list will quickly grow to cover tougher judgment calls. For example, Bell has targeted TVAddons, a site that contains considerable non-infringing content," Geist notes. "It can be expected that many other sites disliked by rights holders or broadcasters would find their way onto the block list," he adds. While the full list of applicants is not ready yet, it is expected that the coalition will file its proposal to the CRTC before the end of the month.
Wrong - this is American Imperialism in action
So Canada is going to block YouTube? That will go over well.
Might as well paint a giant "hack me" sign on your back.... once hacked, what would be some fun domains for us to block? gc.ca? rogers.com? bell.ca?
Oh what fun it will be!
Let's hope.
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Shouldn't that be IPRAA, y'hosers?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
When companies are the judge, jury and executioner.
Why else would they form a coalition to bypass judges?
They are trying to legitimize mafia tactics to the point where the government can't even get involved.
"That's a nice site you got there. You know me and my buddies got this list. It would be a shame if your site wound up on it."
You know I'd prefer that the unwashed masses not learn how to use VPN. We invited them on the internet and now they've ruined it. I say it's about time we slice off a chunk of net for them to turn into the AOL of their dreams and leave the rest of us alone.
USENET, TOR, and the general Internet itself were all fairly chill places for awhile and then the masses arrived bringing their rats, feral dogs, and venereal diseases junk the place up. Now USENET is spam and warez, TOR is full of CP, and the internet is about to be carved up into cable packages. Fuck let the stupid people do their stupid people shit away from the rest of us.
Canada has a very sensible system for copying movies on optical discs. They charge a fee on blank media to reimburse content producers, and then you can feel free to copy anything you want.
They should implement a similar "copying fee" for internet bandwidth, so Canadians can just stream or torrent whatever they like with no compunctions.
America is to blame here? Because Canada can't govern themselves. Must be the evil Americans.
"implement a plan to allow for website blockades without judicial oversight."
At present, the CRTC enforces net neutrality - pricing may be based on bandwidth and transfer, but not content.
It'll be interesting to see what happens if the ISPs actually try this, because the CRTC isn't all that strong a regulatory body from the consumer perspective, and nobody complains about illegal content being blocked.
Somewhere, though, somebody's site will be incorrectly blacklisted and there will be a lawsuit that could be a major headache for Bell, Rogers, or Telus.
How long before every well funded group of SJW will demand to add sites to that ban list?
Copyright infringement often starts with all kinds of talk about books, movies, reviews, comments on the internet.
Movie review sites?
Books about faith and cults?
History sites?
Political sites?
Law sites that list details about a nations crime rate?
Sites that review political books?
That could induce a person to consider copyright infringement after reading about a problematic book or movie.
Block the problematic site and the temptation for copyright infringement is removed.
The SJW get to ban sites they don't like and the risk of copyright infringement is removed.
Win, win for censorship.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
This censorship brought to you by the Canadian movie "industry". Our slogan is: Working hard to deny poor folks access to culture!
So you advocate supporting the culture industry through taxation. Fair enough. But hadn't we ought to nationalize them first?
I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds it abhorrent to support oligarch-controlled, for-profit, not democratically accountable, "private" "businesses" through taxation.
I was with an ISP which, earlier this year, started blocking TPB. Gave me the push I needed to switch to a different ISP which conveniently also costs $5 less per month.
I have a feeling that, if this happens, only the big players will implement it. A lot of the smaller guys see it as a big selling point that they don't do any traffic shaping and such, and some of them even offered free SSL tunnels as part of their basic service back when the big players were trying to throttle torrent traffic over the bulk bandwidth which they sold to the smaller companies.
If not, I suppose there's always VPNs.
So that money can not get distributed to the artists. And when it does it gets distributed by sales percentage so it doesn't accurately pay the artists that are "hurt" by the pirating.
Then there are the businesses and people that don't pirate anything yet are still forced to pay the tax, sorry levy. Businesses that use a lot of media are put at a disadvantage and punished for something that they don't do.
Small-time bands just love this because they are paying extra on the discs they sell at gigs which goes to the big name performers. How is that in any way fair?
Now you want to add on a fee to Internet connections which is just as unfair as the levy on media. How about no way. I see the Internet as a way to try things out and if I like something enough that I'd view/listen/read it again then I'll purchase it or support the artist. But don't make me support artists I hate by forcing me to pay a tax, sorry levy.
First amendment restricts GOVERNMENT, not ISP's and Disney/whatever media company gets in bed with said ISP.
I had a sucky sig.
the CRTC is government and them reinforcing an block can end up in a court case over government censorship
I was under the impression that tampering with telecommunications was illegal in Canada, punishable by imprisionment.
Can someone explain to be how these acts could be legally conducted?
A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
How complex will that be AC?
A banned site will not show and nothing more happens?
The banned site will not load and the person attempting to steal movies has their ip is passed to law enforcement?
The locked away site redirects to tell the user their ip has been passed to law enforcement and lists politically connected sites that sell music and movies?
Something to buy while they wait for their court date?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Unfortunately the only recourse is to terror bomb "innocent" American citizens. While you're not directly responsible for the actions of your corrupt corpotocratic government, there's no other way to achieve justice.
Why is that the only recourse? I would have thought a much better one would be to go after the oligarchs behind it.
So you advocate supporting the culture industry through taxation. Fair enough. But hadn't we ought to nationalize them first?
Canada already has. Broadcasters are required that a specific amount of broadcast media has "canadian content" the government operates numerous funds that you can get to get money to make said content. The law itself is shorted to "Cancon." We also have the "ministry of heritage" which determines "what is canadian culture" which seems to be redundant now, especially with Trudeau Jr's belief(along with the Liberal Party of Canada) that Canada has no culture.
Om, nomnomnom...
But its not a tax it is a fee.
No really it is just a fee not a tax.
This has been the response to a lot of these "taxes" (I thinking mainly of the media fee and the electronics recycling fee but I'm sure there are others).
FYI - the blank audio media levy is collected only for audio works, and the subsequent law allowing duplication of copyrighted works for personal use applies only to music.
You theoretically _can_ still be taken to court for copying a movie, a television show, or even an audio book.
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I can only imagine who will sit on the board of directors of this "new non-profit organization called "Internet Piracy Review Agency" (IPRA)"
I can also only imagine the amount of scope creep that will happen, as they start to expand into all sorts of areas.
I would totally not support this, not that it matters.
Unfortunately the only recourse is to terror bomb "innocent" American citizens
If the Canadians bomb America, I think no one on either side will hate if you start with the mansion where the Baldwin brothers all live.
As so eloquently explained in Screw You, Taxpayer!
This kind of thing was bound to happen as studios became more data aware and carriers became content holders.
This is especially bad for Canadians as we already pay a fee on media that goes to compensate the content management and maybe even content producers that is supposed to allow personal backup.