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'Bitcoin Could Cost Us Our Clean-Energy Future' (grist.org)

An anonymous reader shares an article: Bitcoin wasn't intended to be an investment instrument. Its creators envisioned it as a replacement for money itself -- a decentralized, secure, anonymous method for transferring value between people. But what they might not have accounted for is how much of an energy suck the computer network behind bitcoin could one day become. Simply put, bitcoin is slowing the effort to achieve a rapid transition away from fossil fuels. What's more, this is just the beginning. Given its rapidly growing climate footprint, bitcoin is a malignant development, and it's getting worse. Digital financial transactions come with a real-world price: The tremendous growth of cryptocurrencies has created an exponential demand for computing power. As bitcoin grows, the math problems computers must solve to make more bitcoin (a process called "mining") get more and more difficult -- a wrinkle designed to control the currency's supply. Today, each bitcoin transaction requires the same amount of energy used to power nine homes in the U.S. for one day. And miners are constantly installing more and faster computers. Already, the aggregate computing power of the bitcoin network is nearly 100,000 times larger than the world's 500 fastest supercomputers combined. The total energy use of this web of hardware is huge -- an estimated 31 terawatt-hours per year. More than 150 individual countries in the world consume less energy annually. And that power-hungry network is currently increasing its energy use every day by about 450 gigawatt-hours, roughly the same amount of electricity the entire country of Haiti uses in a year.

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  1. Bitcoin is like Pokemon cards... by Kenja · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only value they have, is the value you place on them. Sure, you can say the same about any currency, if you're willing to ignore governments. So you're ultra rare gold hologram charazard card might be worth a lot today (lets pretend those words make sense), but you're a fool if you think that will be the case tomorrow. Just look at Beenie Babbies.

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    1. Re:Bitcoin is like Pokemon cards... by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My father use to work in an Auto Junk Yard. He Boss use to tell him (thus he would always tell me). "Its all junk!... Unless someone wants it, then it is merchandise!"

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  2. Re:If it creates a worldwide non-government by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There have been utopian no-government proposals in the past.

    People always show up, and when enough people have arrived, they need to be governed.

  3. Re:If it creates a worldwide non-government by wcrowe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, you summer child. You are so naive.

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  4. Re:Bullshit by mujadaddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you actually do the comparison, you see that bitcoin transaction costs (per $1,000 equivalent) is CHEAPER than dollar. It wouldn't work any other way.

    Citation, please? I can hand someone $1000 without electricity. What numbers are you talking about?

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  5. Re:Is there a way to do real work? by mobby_6kl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The value of the computation is that it's what secures the immutability of the ledger.

    Complaining about it is like saying the Internet wastes electricity because ... fax machines, or something.

    If it does that in an extremely dumb and inefficient way, that's a perfectly valid reason to complain.

  6. The same shifting goalposts by Baron_Yam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >Bitcoin wasn't intended to be an investment instrument. Its creators envisioned it as a replacement for money itself -- a decentralized, secure, anonymous method for transferring value between people.

    Bitcoin was a marginally successful experiment in creating a trustless secure distributed public ledger. It was initially used for a few fun purchases, then the crazy cryptoanarchists and libertarians took up the banner and it just started getting weirder. But hey, I'm pretty sure the mining craze drove improvements in gaming video cards, so we did get that out of it before it morphed into an 'investment' pyramid scheme.

    However secure the ledger itself may theoretically be... in practical use Bitcoin is about as secure as having a wad of cash hanging out the back pocket of your pants. It's only anonymous until a person can be linked to a ledger entry, and then it's the least anonymous way in the world to transfer wealth.

    And Bitcoin was never going to replace money, which quickly became obvious once you looked at the scaling issues. I'm sure the original coder was well aware of that and didn't worry about it because they never expected it to grow beyond a small circle of friends using it for shits and giggles. Or not.

    Bitcoin was also never going to replace money because it enforces some basic economic policies on its use that have been proven disastrous by history; the coder was obviously neither an economist nor a historian.

    As an investment, Bitcoin's a lottery ticket. If you're lucky and you get in and out at the right times, Bitcoin may still make you some money - but odds are pretty good it won't. Just ask the last round of people who invested in tulips or beanie babies.

  7. Re:If it creates a worldwide non-government by Baron_Yam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People who want to get rid of government generally imagine themselves as being more successful once that government is gone, and rarely consider what other people just like them will do in order to be the winners in the new system.

    You get rid of the current system, it will be quickly replaced with tens of thousands of little vicious despotic governments practicing feudalism, with all the reductions in quality of life that implies.