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Apple Has Ruined Its Podcasts App (slate.com)

Mike Pesca, host of Slate's daily podcast The Gist, writes about the recent interface changes to Apple's Podcasts app (condensed): Up until two months ago, the Apple Podcasts app was the only podcasting app I used. It gave me a nice, workable list of the shows I liked; let me know when those shows were updated; played the shows easily and without glitches; and offered the option of listening in double speed. I knew where everything was, and I thought of its shortcomings not as features the app was lacking but more like things one simply could not do with a podcast. If the Apple Podcast app wasn't great for sharing podcasts via email or text -- and it was not -- I told myself, "That just must be something that's hard for a podcast app to execute." I figured the best a podcasting app could do was to facilitate sharing the feed of a show, rather than the specific episode I was listening to. I never dared dream I could send a specific time within that episode. What sorcery is that? But sometime in the past few months, the Apple app began to fail me. Of my four basic requirements, three suffered. The list of the shows I listened to was now incomplete. There was no longer a number denoting how many episodes of each show I had on the app. The list of unplayed episodes had melded into the list of played episodes. I was offered the opportunity to browse my "Library," but access to any "card catalog" or "Dewey Decimal System" proved elusive. Apple kept pushing me toward my "recently updated" shows, but these weren't the offerings most useful to me every time I checked back in.

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  1. overcast by inicom · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree with the statements about Apple's podcasts app - the shortcomings made me finally switch to the frequently recommended "overcast" app and after a few days of it I'm regretting not switching sooner

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    1. Re:overcast by inicom · · Score: 2

      here's a iTunes link to that app: https://itunes.apple.com/us/ap...

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    2. Re:overcast by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm shocked by OPs statements... only because Apple's Podcast app has sucked for much longer than 6 months! Injecting ads into the middle of the podcast, failing to update if the app isn't running in the background (killing the app by swiping up means you won't know you have a new podcast until the app is restarted) and failing to download new podcasts when app clearly has permission to use wifi when the app is not active... these were all things that frustrated me to no end!

      I switched to Overcast about a year ago and Podcasts are finally the awesomeness they should have always been.

      I'm tempted here to launch into a tirade about how bad Apple Music is on the iPhone as well, but I'll leave that for another /. post.

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    3. Re:overcast by nomadic · · Score: 2

      Plenty of idiotic ideas came out of Steve Jobs; iTunes still sucked when he was alive.

    4. Re:overcast by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      The real question that I see, is why is this guys opinion about a silly app making headlines.
      If you don’t like the App switch. When the vendor realizes they don’t have as many users they Will either:
      Fix it
      Break it more
      Let it die
      Kill it
      Sue the successful app
      Sue the users
      Buy some company

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    5. Re:overcast by jeremyp · · Score: 2

      The Apple podcast app does not inject ads into the podcasts.

      However, it does suck in most other respects and has now become almost unusable.

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  2. That's all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    You think that's all the ruined. How about the Music App which has gone to hell since 8.3 was released. This is what pisses me off the most

    1. Re:That's all by Hal_Porter · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're not supposed to use the 'Music App' from the company who sold you the hardware. You're supposed to hunt for third party apps in the wild, braving spyware and adware, like MEN used to do.

      Tim Cook is basically playing the role of Leto Atreides here. He knows his rule is tyrannical and he's decided to start The Scattering to third party applications.

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    2. Re:That's all by sconeu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I once had shuffle turned on by accident.

      I had to Google search how to turn off shuffle. The Music app is THAT bad.

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  3. New version = worse version by Major_Disorder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For the past couple of years I have noticed that many pieces of software and websites are "improved" to the point where they become unusable.
    Here is a useful hint. If you have an established popular product, web or software, and someone comes along suggesting a "refresh because it is getting stale" Fire them. have them escorted from premises as soon as possible. (With a few swift kicks if possible.) These people serve no useful purpose, and waste valuable oxygen. A refreshed, modern interface will NOT bring new users to your product, but the features that you thought were unimportant, and removed will drive some of your current users away.

    Looking at you Slashdot.

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    1. Re:New version = worse version by blindseer · · Score: 2

      Fire them.

      From a cannon.

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  4. Three things changed by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

    1. It now defaults to polling every hour on the hour and if it doesn't reply at that time it gets confused. I had to manually reset every thing to checking once a week (for weekly podcasts) or every day (for anything else).

    2. It tries to Sync everything. The overhead on this is a nightmare. It's like "are you sure you have the rights to view that ... how about now, did they expire ... oops it says you don't have this (thing you listened to already) let me download it again".

    3. You have to both Subscribe and get Notifications. It forgets these whenever it patches itself. It assumes if you haven't listened to the podcast in a couple of days that you don't every want to listen to that podcast ... when instead it's like a music podcast and it will still be music in a week or a month.

    Somebody trying to impose IP rights really really messed up. They should be fired and sent to a Greenland Ice Research station with only tropical shirts and shorts.

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  5. Re:First world problems... by rthille · · Score: 2

    And to make /. postings with bad grammar!

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  6. Re: Why an app? by Karlt1 · · Score: 2

    What decade are you living in? Why wouldn't you want your phone to automatically download podcasts you subscribe to?

  7. This has been an ongoing trend for a decade. by AbRASiON · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Windows, Google Applications, General applications, Android, iOS - UI developers and UI managers or UX or whatever they call themselves, they seem to get it right in one or two iterations and after that, for the most part they are *NO LONGER NEEDED* but management keep these huge teams on and they need to 'fiddle' to justify existence.

    I've whined, easily 100 times across the internet about this, but people just endure it, they don't lose customers due to it, unless it's a particularly egregious screw up unfortunately.

    We're looking at apps with flat colours, no dividing lines, no shading, weird animations, massive massive amounts of white space, no coloured icons, no *GODDAMN LABELLING OF ICONS*, etc. Many of those "gaudy!" things, help you easily identify what you're doing or about to do. While you may still get used to doing things with the app, I find often, I will hesitate for one fraction of a second, maybe even just .2 seconds when I'm clicking unlabeled, uncoloured icons, every.single.time, because my brain has to confirm it's right.
    Problem is, when I do these functions thousands or tens of thousands of times a year, they're wasting my damn time.

    and, boy, oh BOY am I glad I no longer work in first level technical support. I would be horrendously angry over the past 5-10 years, IMMENSELY so. Being able to describe the GREEN SQUARE icon on the left, in the BOX next to the RED CIRCLE ICON and the icon is LABELLED "GO" is vastly easier than:
    "No, click the arrow, yes, it's ..white, like all the other icons, it's going from right to left, yeah it's kind of in the middle of nothing, it's up the top left, no the other top left, no really sir it IS there. You say it isn't? Can you describe what you see? Lots of white eh, any words? No words oh........ what icons are there? ... yes .. an odd shape ok put your mouse over it so we can get the tooltip name for it,......... oh you're on a touchscreen ....... ok ..well ummm "

    Seriously these changes are mind-bogglingly bad for end users and first level support, but as we all know, saves them money having a translation team, doesn't it?

    I loathe it.

    1. Re:This has been an ongoing trend for a decade. by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2

      Gizmodo gave Windows Phone 8.1 a positive review, and it's full of UX nerd nonsense like this.

      https://gizmodo.com/windows-ph...

      Giant, no-caps headings are still a terrific alternative to the tired and needlessly skeuomorphic concept of "tabs." Windows Phone's almost complete lack of borders in favor of cleverly utilized bands of negative space still makes it one of the best looking interfaces around. Live tiles are still colorful, and striking, and a somehow weirdly fun take on icons, even if an army of widget-squares maybe isn't quite as nice as having a proper notification hub.

      However look at the comments

      You don't find Windows 8 hard to support?

      "Are you on the desktop or "tile" screen?"
      "What's the tile screen?"
      "The screen with all those tiles..."
      "Oh...no, I'm on the desktop."
      "Can you hit the Windows key and get back to the tile screen?"
      "Where's the Windows key?"
      "On the bottom row of your keyboard."
      "Oh, I see it. OK I'm there."
      "Now hit Windows + I and a menu will pop out of the right side"
      "It does, but every time I move my mouse near it it disappears..."
      "*sigh*"

      I didn't say it's easy to support. I said it's not that hard of an OS to us once you actually try. It's terrible to support because people are fucking stupid. That's where WebEx comes in handy.

      Windows Phone managed to stagger on for one more release before Microsoft killed it.

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    2. Re:This has been an ongoing trend for a decade. by jittles · · Score: 2

      And, hey, thanks to the genius at Apple who decided to make the scroll bars disappear. Wouldn't want a user to know there was more to view in a window.

      That genius must not even use a Mac. Have you ever tried to click the last item in Finder in a list view when the left/right scroll bar has disappeared? The second you click where the item is, the scroll bar magically appears over the top of it and you end up scrolling the window instead of selecting the item you want. Perfect usability.

  8. Now try having visual acuity problems by Jamlad · · Score: 2
    The current horrible trends in UI/UX design are exacerbated by the fact that these designers are invariably young with good eyesight. They should be forced to use their own interface with a blurred color filter cos heaven forbid any of their endusers be colorblind or old.

    I'll admit this had never even occurred to me until my grandmother started developing glaucoma and other visual issues. She's legally blind now, but perhaps clearer UIs would have enabled her to learn podcasts/audiobooks while she still had some decent sight.