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The Neon Glow of Tokyo Modified Car Culture (kottke.org)

Jason Kottke: New Zealand drift racer Mike Whiddett recently travelled to Japan to explore Tokyo's "extraordinary after-dark modified auto scene." He found people making California-style lowriders, Dekotora (my favorite, if only for the sheer spectacle), illegally modified cars, and a man who says with a straight face that "driving an unmodified Lamborghini is boring."

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  1. Clicky Clicky Clicky by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This "story" - such that it is - reminds me of websites targeted at mobile users that route you through dozens of pages with a little disappointing dabble at each stop, just enough carrot to convince you to click one more time... until halfway to what you maybe want to see, you just give up and bail out.

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    1. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      You know....

      If you have a real car that can perform, it doesn't have to "glow" in the dark and look like some circus side show display....

      I'd think money would be better spend on things that actually make the car perform better, rather than adding a neon underglow light system, spinner hubcaps, and a coffee can exhaust that does nothing for performance or good engine note.

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    2. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by arth1 · · Score: 2

      In this case, the entire article is only twice the size of the very short story summary here. What's the relevance to slashdot? That ricers exist in Tokyo too? Hardly newsworthy, I should think. This would probably not even get a mention on Jalopnik.

    3. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd think money would be better spend on things that actually make the car perform better, rather than adding a neon underglow light system, spinner hubcaps, and a coffee can exhaust that does nothing for performance or good engine note.

      You already have a car that costs half a million and you still see the need to spend more money to make it perform better?

    4. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know....

      If you have a real car that can perform, it doesn't have to "glow" in the dark and look like some circus side show display....

      I'd think money would be better spend on things that actually make the car perform better, rather than adding a neon underglow light system, spinner hubcaps, and a coffee can exhaust that does nothing for performance or good engine note.

      You have a stunted definition of performance. Sad.

    5. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      The same could be said about PC vs Mac...

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    6. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Maybe better, most likely worse. Certainly worse if the mods are neon lights. And the car will be worth much, much less.

      Exotic cars were built 'collectable'. Modifying them in any way only reduces their resale value. About the only dumber thing to do with them would be to actually race them.

      Race cars are generally uncomfortable/impractical as hell and aren't much use as daily drivers. Street cars are always about finding the right compromise, for you. Different bores, and different strokes, for different folks.

      Also: Own a car trailer, 'trailer queens' are all sorts of fun. Only once you throw 'streetability' to the ground do things get really interesting.

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    7. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

      You know....

      If you have a real car that can perform, it doesn't have to "glow" in the dark and look like some circus side show display....

      I'd think money would be better spend on things that actually make the car perform better, rather than adding a neon underglow light system, spinner hubcaps, and a coffee can exhaust that does nothing for performance or good engine note.

      You have a stunted definition of performance. Sad.

      I used to work in a Formula 1 team and I'm entirely familiar with what you do to an engine to make it perform better.

      Very little of this is done on normal cars because the design of the car doesn't accommodate all the pipework for the variable everything (per cylinder, per cycle variable trumpets, spark timing, injector timing, exhaust length etc) and the per engine mapping is a little expensive.

      This is fine because the reliability profile on a road car is dramatically different. I see no benefit in modding my car. It's fine for getting to work and not getting arrested.

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    8. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Different bores/strokes -

      this is just not true. Many street cars have optimal bore/stroke ratios for a racing car. See the 2.0L Honda K20 engine, for example.

    9. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      What's optimal? Seriously, you need to get out more if you think there is one 'optimal'.

      First question: What's your fuel?

      I don't even have to look, to know there are both destroked and stroker cranks available for that motor. I'll bet there's room to bore it too, and people have. I bet someone else sleeved it down (but I'd need better odds).

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    10. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe... they don't want to "collect" cars, but instead modify and race them? Perhaps the value of a thing to people is not as simple as its monetary resale value?

    11. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      The same could be said about PC vs Mac...

      That PC didn't even have a monitor.

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    12. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by scottrocket · · Score: 2

      You know....

      If you have a real car that can perform, it doesn't have to "glow" in the dark and look like some circus side show display....

      I'd think money would be better spend on things that actually make the car perform better, rather than adding a neon underglow light system, spinner hubcaps, and a coffee can exhaust that does nothing for performance or good engine note.

      The submitter should have added the final copy/paste paragraph, it's wraps up their (the modders) sentiment nicely (or it's all bravado):

      "What’s interesting is that more than one of these guys in the video repeated some variation of “I don’t care what anyone thinks about me” I. ...don’t believe you? If there’s one thing most humans care deeply about, it’s what other people think about them, particularly when you’re driving million-dollar, pulsing-neon supercars around the world’s most populous city."

      Shallow, but likely true...

    13. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Million dollar Italian exotics? In Japan? The guys/girls you are thinking of, are blowing past these neon light parade clowns in GTRs and the like.

      Might as well plant grass on their 'Lambos'. These people are jumping up and down, going 'look at me'. The cars are just props. Too much money. Hope the people actually turning the wrenches are 'milking them' for all they're worth. Any fool that wants $2000 worth of JC whitney neon on his Lamborghini deserves to pay and pay for it.

      Only the Japanese would think a supercar/lowrider was cool. Next: A Lamborghini that hops.

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    14. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      I think the AC ment that a F1 car would 'pull more birds': lowered, flame job 70s metal flake paint, spinners, neon under the body and fart cans on the end of the stubby exhausts.

      That kind of 'performance'. Otherwise he was just babbling, nobody actually believes that shit makes you go faster.

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    15. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...says Cayenne, the shittiest of Porsches.

    16. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Ricers driving million dollar 'Italian trash' exist in Tokyo. Still act like Ricers, glue on some JC whitney bullshit and call it 'custom'.

      I'd be more impressed with a smart car with a Lambo body kit, then add the extra bullshit on top of that steaming pile. Make it a rolling monument to 'hello kitty tentacle rape'. Then put the 'busa motor kit in it.

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    17. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by drew_kime · · Score: 1

      In this case, the entire article is only twice the size of the very short story summary here.

      That wasn't an article. That was the introduction to a video. The video was the point of the link.

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    18. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by arth1 · · Score: 1

      If it's a video, it should be clearly marked as such in the submission.
      This is /. and many here browse with multimedia turned off, and even more have "Other content" checked off in the preferences.

    19. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I'm more for wolf in sheep's clothing cars. Now if someone managed to put a 600+ HP low-weight engine in a Mercedes 240D, and managed to make it street legal, I'd be far more impressed.

    20. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      I'd think money would be better spend on things that actually make the car perform better, rather than adding a neon underglow light system, spinner hubcaps, and a coffee can exhaust that does nothing for performance or good engine note.

      Definitely. Adding a nitrous oxide system would definitely be a better idea. Just don't pump the nitrous oxide into the engine . . . pump it into the driver.

      The car will not look any cooler, but the driver will be wiggin' and think that it does look cooler.

      . . . now about my idea for LSD steering wheels . . . and I don't mean limited-slip differential . . .

      . . . so do any other folks have some ideas combining modern automotive technology with dangerous psychoactive medications . . . ?

      Maybe fentanyl four wheel drive . . . ? Maybe when the engine turns off at red lights, the driver could be put to sleep, as well. Most folks don't get enough sleep at night . . . they could catch up by napping at red lights.

      Turbocharged direct meth injection . . . ?

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    21. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by Opportunist · · Score: 1
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    22. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      You need to lookup the Youtube videos of a Smart with a Hayabusa engine. It's really really cool. Obvious death trap. Faster than stink.

      600HP is _easy_ (not cheap), making it reliable, not so much. Getting it to hook up, even worse. Better start with a smog exempt chassis. In CA that's pre 1975 IIRC.

      Shoehorning a mouse or LS into that Benz shouldn't be too difficult. Tub the chassis for tires and put a shortened Ford 9 inch rear end on an adjustable 4 link and she's good to rock and roll. You'll only get one pass at the track before they make you put a cage in it, might as well put it there without being told. It will impress the tech inspectors, just a tiny bit. That and help reduce body flex. But I disagree on the car selection in the first place. I'd go with something lower mass. 240SX is a popular choice. Miata if you can fit yourself into it. A Miata with 302 is a kit install and rocks like an AC cobra. Stay _well_away_ from 600HP and the Mazda IRS can handle it.

      Talk about sleepers, I know where there's a 12 second '57 Fiat 600, just gathering dust. Dude doesn't want to be responsible for my death, won't sell it to me. Might sell it to a stranger for the right money. The problem is, as he puts it: 'People are staring right at you, trying to figure out what it is. They get so preoccupied, they forget to not hit you'.

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    23. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by arth1 · · Score: 1

      But I disagree on the car selection in the first place. I'd go with something lower mass. 240SX is a popular choice.

      Because the 240D is recognizable as one of the slowest non-economy cars that actually sold a lot? Even slower than the Volvo 240. To top it off, the Merc couldn't corner well, and the Volvo couldn't brake well (the old joke was that the heavier Volvos were even slower at 60-0 than 0-60), so it was probably a good thing that they were boats.

    24. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      In my experience, being a leader of a large group in any context, like a company or standards group or anything else is what can colloquially be called "pulls more birds".

      As a male, as soon as you are seen to be in a position of power, there is a subset of women, certainly not all women, who are suddenly very interested in you in a way they were not before you reached that position of power.

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    25. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      The two foot wide tires at the back will give it away anyhow.

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    26. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Sure, but on point, a 'flash car' will produce the impression of financial success, even power.

      Even if it really says: 'Too stupid to buy a car that he can afford.' or even 'stupid enough to knock half the resale value off his supercar by fucking with it, making it slower.'

      Further, let's not forget there are another category of 'birds'. The ones that like actual fast cars/drivers. Winning at the racetrack also gets attention, no matter how low dollar the racing is.

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    27. Re:Clicky Clicky Clicky by Gussington · · Score: 1

      You know....

      If you have a real car that can perform,

      Maybe not everyone wants that?

      I'd think money would be better spend on things that actually make the car perform better

      Perform at what, being stuck at the next red light? If getting from A to B as quickly as possible is how you measure performance then your wasting your time with any car...

  2. Any asshole can buy a lambo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You haven't set yourself apart unless you drive something you customized in some way.

    1. Re: Any asshole can buy a lambo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds Russian.

    2. Re: Any asshole can buy a lambo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, SoCal

    3. Re:Any asshole can buy a lambo by rogoshen1 · · Score: 2

      bringing whole new meaning to "explosive acceleration off the line" ?

    4. Re:Any asshole can buy a lambo by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      V8 Pintos are kind of common. About the only ones left.

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    5. Re: Any asshole can buy a lambo by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Aside of temperature and hair color of people, what's the difference?

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    6. Re:Any asshole can buy a lambo by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      All the others are already exploded?

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    7. Re:Any asshole can buy a lambo by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Last Pintos were made in 1980. Why would anybody keep a normal 4 banger Pinto for 40 years?

      Strangely, IIRC there is a south American country where they _love_ Mavericks. The ultimate POS Ford. Perhaps the Mustang II (same car really) is in the running.

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  3. WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I don't understand why this is on /.

    1. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you never seen "Tokyo Mater"?
      Pixar was all over this a decade ago, therefore it's tech stuff!

  4. And then by ruddk · · Score: 1

    after watching that, youtube suggested:
    C64 Longplay - Weird Dreams
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Seemed to make more sense. :)

  5. For nerds? by Ducho_CWB · · Score: 1

    It drives itself?
    Has a cluster Beowulf in the trunk?
    Spaceship grade engine?

    Fail.

    1. Re:For nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop peeing in the Kool-Aid!

    2. Re:For nerds? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Why? It's not like I plan to drink it...

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    3. Re:For nerds? by ELCouz · · Score: 1

      I think he meant Slashdot..nonetheless wtf!

  6. Jason Kotke presents by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Informative

    a Jason Kotke blog posted by Jason Kotke

    1. Re:Jason Kotke presents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      with contributions from Jason Kottke

    2. Re:Jason Kotke presents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jason Kotke...
      J K ...
      Jon Katz, could it be?

    3. Re:Jason Kotke presents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sponsored by the Jason Kotke Foundation for a Better World with funding provided by the Jason Kotke Endowment for the Arts

  7. Deco Chari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also look google for Deco Chari, that's the option for the ones who can't yet get their driver's license.

  8. Shinichi Morohoshi is a scumbag by SethJohnson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The guy in the video with all the Lambos is widely described as a member of the Yakuza. No big surprise. When you look at those cars rolling down the street, understand that they are financed with the broken lives of a great many people.

    1. Re:Shinichi Morohoshi is a scumbag by Falos · · Score: 1

      >When you look at those cars rolling down the street, understand that they are financed with the broken lives of a great many people.
      This holds true in most countries.

      The only difference is pretending there's an extra Degree of Kevin Bacon or two, so you can sleep at night.

    2. Re:Shinichi Morohoshi is a scumbag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He could have lost that pinky in a racing accident.

    3. Re:Shinichi Morohoshi is a scumbag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yazuka, hey? Perfect match for the cream of NZ's "society".

    4. Re:Shinichi Morohoshi is a scumbag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you not know what the Yakuza does? Black market, protection rackets. In the US we call them drug dealers and mobsters. Generally writing puff pieces about mobsters in not really looked at as "good" journalism.

    5. Re:Shinichi Morohoshi is a scumbag by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      A lot of gaijin in Japan regard the Yakuza as super cool and like to tell stories of hanging out with them. I'd be more sensitive before denouncing them.

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    6. Re:Shinichi Morohoshi is a scumbag by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Mobsters, CEOs, the difference is fluid. And we have whole magazines dedicated to the praise of the latter, so what's your point?

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  9. Priorities by Locke2005 · · Score: 0

    Apparently single men in the 30's that still live with their parents have way to much disposable income... somebody ask each of these guys if their mother still makes their bed for them!

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  10. Darn! Those Japanese girls must be tiny... by Locke2005 · · Score: 0

    ... if they can screw in the back of a lambo!

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    1. Re:Darn! Those Japanese girls must be tiny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Japan, no one has screwed anything not made of plastic, metal, or rubber in decades.

  11. Other side of the story by sheetsda · · Score: 2

    From article: "more than one of these guys in the video repeated some variation of “I don’t care what anyone thinks about me”. I.don’t believe you? If there’s one thing most humans care deeply about, it’s what other people think about them, particularly when you’re driving million-dollar, pulsing-neon supercars around the world’s most populous city."

    I don't have the means to drive a anything close to a multi-million dollar car but I am a car enthusiast. So here's what I suspect the quoted person's response would be to reading this....

    This says more about the writer than the person being quoted. The writer's perspective is very self-centered - "you did a thing to impress me, and I will not accept any other explanation". No - I did it because *I* find it beautiful and enjoy having this fusion of art and engineering around, and would enjoy it even if even if I was the only person on the planet.

    1. Re:Other side of the story by infolation · · Score: 2
      To be honest, I stopped reading the article at the point where it claimed Tokyo is

      the world’s most populous city.

      Tokyo is nowhere near. By number of people, that's Mexico City. By overall density it's Dhaka. And by density in a single district it's Hong Kong.

    2. Re:Other side of the story by Gussington · · Score: 1

      To be honest, I stopped reading the article at the point where it claimed Tokyo is

      the world’s most populous city.

      Tokyo is nowhere near. .

      You must be fun at parties.
      But since you went there, it depends on how you measure, since the greater Tokyo area, ie the urban sprawl that extends past the Tokyo city limits, but forms the same contiguous urban area, comprises more than 30 million people. It is generally considered the largest contiguous mass of people on earth.

  12. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 1

    and I'm blind now.
    Honestly, as someone who used to drive Italian exotics, what they did to those is a crime against humanity.

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    1. Re:Beauty is in the eye of the beholder by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      And to make it worse, those cars are now even *LESS* fuel efficient!

    2. Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder by findoutmoretoday · · Score: 1

      Itâ(TM)s a statement. Personally, I only modify/own/use stuff that is cheap enough or already damaged.

  13. Based on people I have known in California... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Based on people I have known in California...
    Real street racers don't keep the same car for long, or in some cases even have them legally registered.

    Having a car that glows is explicitly for show. Either it is a trailer queen or it is rolling probable cause (Neons are illegal in most/all US states and are also illegal in most other parts of the world, especially red, blue, and yellow flashing, which are explicitly intended for emergency vehicles and public utility trucks/contractors who need to operate need the roadway and notify traffic so they can slow down/go around them.)

    People who are REALLY into street racing usually go out a few times a month, or run cars that can't be traced back to them and make as much of a game out of the cat and mouse of police involvement as they do the racing itself. Some will go out and bust donuts just to draw police attention, others only operate in the dead of night in abandoned areas of town, many of which are no longer so abandoned between security cameras and beefed up law enforcement presence (many industrial parks now have regular police patrols and beefed up patrol cars as a result of illegal car and bike activity and the risk of damage to property.) Some people regularly flip unregistered cars, or cars in the previous owners paperwork, fixing them up, using bolt-ons/illegal engines for power which they swap out before reselling the vehicle, the engine travelling between vehicles until they move to a different platform/wear them out. A decent number of the poorer indivudals also boost cars, using the joyrides back to the chop shops to try out different cars while getting paid a pittance at the end of the night. Given the criminal laws around street racing nowadays, as well as the risk of having your car crushed, it makes some amount of sense to just add a grand theft auto rap and use stolen cars for it. If they get confiscated/wrecked/chopped it is no skin off your back and nothing directly traces back to you.

    However, this activity is becoming increasingly risky. If you carry a cellphone you are providing location data tied to the theft and operation of the car. Combined with video footage and timestamps they can tie the cell phone to you. Combine the above with random passerbys with cell phones, as well as the general lack of thought to concealing one's identity and accidents, near escapes from police, etc leave you with a ticking timer until you're arrested, unless you are lucky enough to be well connected/have paid off the law enforcement for your region. Most of the United States that won't be true. Most of Japan, even if you're Yakuza that is no longer true (Yakuza is 1/3 their size from 20 years ago and more is being cracked down on each day.) Most of Europe and Britain it also isn't true. Anybody with priors will make a conviction stick easily, and most of the street racing/reckless driving laws can see you in jail or prison from 90 days to a few years. I know two different people who did 2+ years in prison over street racing related activities, and there are hundreds to thousands of other examples. Worse yet if someone else dies while participating in a street race you are on the hook at minimum as an accessory to murder and in some jurisdictions as a murderer yourself.

    1. Re: Based on people I have known in California... by Reverend+Green · · Score: 2

      Moral of the story: when doing something that offends a repressive regime, leave your cellphone at home.

  14. Driving by tquasar · · Score: 2

    Drifting is not racing. It is "Look at Me!!!!!" Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

    1. Re:Driving by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Took a lady with cancer out to do donuts. It was on her bucket list. I insisted she had to drive to 'do donuts', riding didn't count. But no high speed drits. Just letting her play, not telling her I put skinny tires on the back.

      Stadiums have huge empty flat paved lots. Just scout ahead for crete.

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    2. Re:Driving by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 1

      It's not racing, but drifting is definitely not just dumb showboating; there is actually a very high amount of skill involved. Mike participates in Formula Drift, which is the best of the best and is judged technically.

    3. Re:Driving by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Drifting is not racing. It is "Look at Me!!!!!" Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

      Drifting is a skill, and not one that should be confused with power sliding. Also, its not racing, it's a competition.

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  15. Piracy, right, DRM defenders? by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    Car owners modifying their cars? This can't be allowed because nobody would ever sell a car (and clearly businesses must be given primacy in society). Independent garages and individual car owners might learn things that let them offer repair and augmentation services, and then car sellers would be run right out of business. We need people buying new cars to railroad them into accepting features they might not like (built-in GPS that the customer isn't told about and is therefore unlikely to remove), not learning how their cars work so they can customize them. DRM defenders and other proprietary sycophants should be the first to complain that such behavior is "piracy" to avoid the customer becoming a "thief" (or some other smear words). We can't have people fully controlling the things they own!

  16. The subtitles are ridiculous by Ecuador · · Score: 1

    Granted, my Japanese is limited to what I've learnt to pick up from watching a lot of Japanese TV/movies, which is not much, but even if you don't know a single word you will realize that the interviewees are going on and on and there is a single sentence as a "translation" in the subtitles. Quite bad for something that purports to be a "documentary" film.
    I'll leave the discussion of things like why is this here, what are these guys who can afford million dollar cars etc to other threads ;)

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  17. Where'd he go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Came here to see if Bosozoku had posted. Left disappointed.

  18. The Neon Glow of Tokyo, Modified Car Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Add a comma, get a much more interesting prospect. Alas, this is Slershdert 2017...