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The Environmental Cost of Internet Porn (theatlantic.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report (condensed for space): Online streaming is a win for the environment. Streaming music eliminates all that physical material -- CDs, jewel cases, cellophane, shipping boxes, fuel -- and can reduce carbon-dioxide emissions by 40 percent or more. Scientists who analyze the environmental impact of the internet tout the benefits of this "dematerialization," observing that energy use and carbon-dioxide emissions will drop as media increasingly can be delivered over the internet. But this theory might have a major exception: porn. Since the turn of the century, the pornography industry has experienced two intense hikes in popularity. In the early 2000s, broadband enabled higher download speeds. Then, in 2008, the advent of so-called tube sites allowed users to watch clips for free, like people watch videos on YouTube. Adam Grayson, the chief financial officer of the adult company Evil Angel, calls the latter hike "the great mushroom-cloud porn explosion of 2008." Precise numbers don't exist to quantify specifics, but the impression across the industry is that viewership is way, way up. Pornhub, the world's most popular porn site, provides some of the only accessible data on its yearly web-traffic report. The first Year In Review post in 2013 tabulated that 14.7 billion people visited the site. By 2016, the number of visitors had almost doubled, to 23 billion, and those visitors watched more than 4.59 billion hours of porn. And Pornhub is just one site. Using a formula that Netflix published on its blog in 2015, Nathan Ensmenger, a professor at Indiana University who is writing a book about the environmental history of the computer, calculates that if Pornhub streams video as efficiently as Netflix (0.0013 kWh per streaming hour), it used 5.967 million kWh in 2016. For comparison, that's about the same amount of energy 11,000 light bulbs would use if left on for a year. And operating with Netflix's efficiency would be a best-case scenario for the porn site, Ensmenger believes.

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  1. ... and also think of ... by jawtheshark · · Score: 5, Funny
    ... and also think of ...
    • the thousands of gallons of sperm wasted
    • The thousands of tonnes of kleenex and toilet paper
    • Millions of gallons of clean water for cleanup
      • Not to mention the contamination of keyboards, mice and touchscreens.
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    1. Re:... and also think of ... by sabri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... and also think of ...

      The amount of reasons some people will find to ban things they "don't like".

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    2. Re:... and also think of ... by gnick · · Score: 5, Informative

      ... and also think of ...
      the thousands of gallons of sperm wasted

      Waste more! Way too much of that stuff is becoming people. There's no people shortage.

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    3. Re:... and also think of ... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My "takeaway" from the article is the opposite: The energy used by internet porn is completely negligible. They used scary analogies like "11,000 light bulbs", but since this is something used regularly by BILLIONS of people, that is an astonishingly small amount of energy.

      If these people stopped watching porn, and instead increased their social interaction, and maybe even went on a date using a gasoline powered car, the environmental consequences would be far, far worse.

    4. Re:... and also think of ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Africa needs more porn then?

    5. Re:... and also think of ... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm doing my part!

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    6. Re:... and also think of ... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      And hey...apparently any interaction you try with a new woman these days, can be interpreted as unwanted sexual assault....so, Pornhub is now about the only safe outlet.

      And women wonder why men these days don't want to get married....geez, pretty soon with all the guff going on, they'll be wondering why men don't even want to try to approach, talk or meet them.

      God save us if they ever get pr0n VR done right. If men can get full on sexual simulation.....the earth population will head dive to 0 quickly.

      I mean, if a guy can get full on sex without the hassle of the nagging of women, the catering to their fickle whims, the risks of unwanted children AND most importantly, the very real risk of losing half of everything you own.....guess which venue for sexual release he'll pursue?

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    7. Re:... and also think of ... by Cryacin · · Score: 2

      This is just from the group that tried to say "think of the children!" getting tired of their own schtick and saying "think of the environment" for a change.

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    8. Re: ... and also think of ... by Brockmire · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Where the fuck did you learn to pick up women? Jesus Christ, just start with, "hey, I'm blah, can I buy you a drink"? It comes across that you're upset you can't be an asshole anymore. "That dress would look good on the floor next to my bed" is funny, but was never appropriate.

    9. Re:... and also think of ... by blind+biker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If these people stopped watching porn, and instead increased their social interaction, and maybe even went on a date using a gasoline powered car, the environmental consequences would be far, far worse.

      Not to mention the far more devastating environmental costs of procreating.

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    10. Re:... and also think of ... by Lanthanide · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I mean, if a guy can get full on sex without the hassle of the nagging of women, the catering to their fickle whims, the risks of unwanted children AND most importantly, the very real risk of losing half of everything you own.....guess which venue for sexual release he'll pursue?

      Other men, obviously.

    11. Re:... and also think of ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And for an added benefit, women won't have to deal with the likes of you, either.

    12. Re:... and also think of ... by QRDeNameland · · Score: 5, Funny

      Exactly my thought. If, hypothetically, 100,000 Pornhub fap sessions results in just one fewer successful procreative sexual encounter, then that's 230,000 fewer babies per year just from Pornhub. Weighed against 11,000 lightbulb's worth of power usage, that's a no-brainer.

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    13. Re:... and also think of ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      No! I do NOT want to know more!!!

    14. Re:... and also think of ... by johnwfran · · Score: 2

      "God save us if they ever get pr0n VR done right. If men can get full on sexual simulation.....the earth population will head dive to 0 quickly."

      Would that be a feature or a bug?

    15. Re:... and also think of ... by jcr · · Score: 2

      FWIW, about 2/3 of all the energy we use globally goes into heating and cooling. The lion's share of the rest is transportation.

      -jcr

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    16. Re: ... and also think of ... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      The GP seems to think that men only have children because it means they can get sex. That doesn't even make sense, since the result of getting pregnant is no sex for months or even years.

      Apparently relationships and actually wanting kids doesn't factor, except when the women it's deceptive as makes him raise someone else's child.

      This whole philosophy makes no sense.

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    17. Re: ... and also think of ... by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 2

      BULL. FUCKING. SHIT.

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    18. Re:... and also think of ... by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Funny

      Meanwhile the women will figure out how to get pregnant without men and take over the planet.

      Men will go extinct and women will live in a the bitchy, hissy world they all deserve.

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  2. Obligatory Archer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    the impression across the industry is that viewership is way, way up.

    Phrasing!

  3. So nothing then? by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You had me all worked up about the amount of electricity used, but then - just 11k bulbs?

    That's not even enough to light a single wing of Al Gores' mansion (here's I'm just speaking about the primary mansion, not all of the secondary ones).

    Think I'll skip the outrage on this one, especially considering the vast benefit that pro brings humanity. You wonder why there's not been a WWIII? Internet porn.

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  4. This just in! by Zorro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    NO ONE CARES!

  5. Interesting final statement by DarkOx · · Score: 2

    "And operating with Netflix's efficiency would be a best-case scenario for the porn site, Ensmenger believes"

    I'd like to know why. I am not fan of the Internet Porn industry, i think its harming society and based on this article the planet but to say, "And operating with Netflix's efficiency would be a best-case scenario for the porn site, Ensmenger believes"

    Seems just nakedly prejudiced. I mean does Netflix have the help of data center angels, that don't lend their divine intervention to pornhub? Do you subscribe? I thought Internet porn was almost universally free as in beer? Why would think a pornhub a sophisticated marketing machine that has to derive its revenue primarily form razor thin ad impression payments would be doing anything other than in the most efficient way possible?

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  6. Remember the concept of free will? WTF? by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What about the fact that folks have a *right* to do whatever they want with their computer, their bandwidth, and their fucking life! Jezuz, did this come from the same assholes who were shaking their fingers at us over Bitcoin energy consumption? Here's a hint: go fuck yourselves. Nobody gives a two small shits about your opinion on what's "okay" for them to be using resources they paid for. If you think it's a waste, well, then we have something in common because I think all the watts/joules put into SJW hot air is a big waste of energy, too. Judgmental pricks what they are.

  7. So ... by PinkyGigglebrain · · Score: 2

    Did they also work out the environmental impact of all the cute kitten, epic fail, stupid human tricks, vBlogs, etc., videos as well?

    Bet it is much, much higher than just porn.

  8. And the problem is ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, watching porn uses ONLY 0.0013 kWh per streaming hour. Just about ANYTHING else will use heaps more...like watching TV (~110W), making tea (~2 KW), driving a car (tens of KW).......
    THEREFORE watching porn saves a huge amount of energy that you'd otherwise be using instead.

  9. The antisex movement has shifted by Jarwulf · · Score: 3

    The vanguard of the antiporn antisex puritan movement has shifted from the old stodgy religious right to the new left. You can see it as the arguments have gradually shifted from destruction of morality and family values to the exploitation of women and harm to their psychological health and ridiculous appeals to the environment that porn, sex and prostitution entail according to them. Harlotry is now sex slavery. The sunday school marm has transformed into the wizened womyn's studies professor. One argument they both seem to use is the crime factor though. The more things change I guess.

  10. Other considerations by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a porn shift. Trees are spared because magazines not published anymore. All the books that once populated shelves in "adult" book stores. Then there's the peep shows that are gone as well with their dark booths. I knew one Tech Sergeant when I was in the Air Force who have over 500 8mm (the old reel type) films. The simple fact is that streaming is replacing traditional porn materials. I can't help but believe it's environmentally better.

  11. Not what I was expecting... by flargleblarg · · Score: 2

    Thought this article was going to be about all the kleenix in landfills...

  12. please..... by sdinfoserv · · Score: 4, Informative

    What hogwash "By 2016, the number of visitors had almost doubled, to 23 billion, ".... there's only 7.4B people on the entire planet..... Only 3 billion people have internet access today.. I'm fairly certain my 90 year old grand mother has never (on purpose) been to pornhub... and given the punishment of Muslim countries... there's no way it's in the billions of visitors. This means of those who do visit are really, really active..

    1. Re:please..... by Major_Disorder · · Score: 2

      I'm fairly certain my 90 year old grand mother has never (on purpose) been to pornhub...

      Been to PornHub?!?!?!?!!?!? She is their number 2 uploader.
      Granny porn is a thing.
      Don't ask me how I know.

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  13. Now I understand the Motel 6 Slogan! by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2

    "We'll leave a light on for you!" I never understood before!

  14. WAIT WAIT WAIT! I thought it was Bitcoin by grnbrg · · Score: 2

    wasting all the power?!!

  15. can't do math. by foxjazz4003 · · Score: 2

    "By 2016, the number of visitors had almost doubled, to 23 billion" There are only 7.6 billion people on the planet, half don't have internet much less pornhub. How can 23 billion visitors or really is it a repeat business. And so what, it's porn or hookers, what uses more fuel?

  16. Math checks out by poached · · Score: 5, Funny

    23 billion visitors, totaling 4.59 billion hours (275.4 billion minutes), which means on average each visitor only spent 11.97 (~12) minutes per visit.

    That checks out, considering it takes like 5 minutes before finding something I want to fap to.

  17. Only 6GWh/year ??? by Ecuador · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seriously, this is VERY little power, especially for 4.6 billion hours of (exciting) entertainment! I mean, just my country house solar roof produces 15MWh/year - just 400 of those relatively small solar roofs are enough to power world porn! Or compare to the bitcoin network's 32TWh consumption - that's more than 5000 times the claimed amount of streaming porn (without the actual benefits!). I mean, the summary tries to say one thing, but the numbers seem to indicate the exact opposite!

    Also, it is not "23 billion visitors", it is "23 billion visits". Unless our streaming porn is popular among extraterrestrial civilizations with populations numbering in the dozens of billions...

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  18. Re:Not so interesting by LesFerg · · Score: 2

    It was officially going to be the PornHub/Hour unit, but the average person only lasted 12 minutes at a time so it became the PornHub/Minute unit of energy.

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