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How To Check If You Interacted With Russian Propaganda On Facebook During the 2016 Election (recode.net)

Facebook has rolled out a new tool to help some users figure out if they interacted with Russian propaganda during the 2016 U.S. presidential election. "The social giant's tool -- available here, through its Help Center -- specifically allows users to see if they followed or 'Liked' any pages and accounts set up by Kremlin-backed trolls on either Facebook or Instagram," reports Recode. From the report: Over the course of the 2016 election, Facebook estimates that roughly 140 million users may have seen Russian propaganda in their News Feeds or on Instagram. Much of that content sought to sow social and political unrest around divisive issues like race, religion and LGBT rights. But only a small slice of those 140 million affected users can actually take advantage of Facebook's new tool, which it first previewed in November. That's because the portal only aids those who directly followed one of the accounts or pages set up by Russian sources on Instagram and Facebook. It does not help users who may have simply seen Kremlin-sponsored content because their friends "Liked" it and it subsequently appeared in their own News Feeds. Facebook's new service also doesn't allow users to check if they saw some of the roughly 3,000 election-timed ads purchased by Russia's notorious trolls, known as the Internet Research Agency. About 10 million users saw those ads around the election, the company previously has said.

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  1. Need this for friends by profet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Would be lovely to see a list of posts shared/liked by friends to your timeline rather than just things you've clicked on.

    1. Re:Need this for friends by msmash+(Top+Editor) · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Check your email.

      Slashdot will not let this happen again. We will watch all things Russia and remove all meddling next election cycle. Hillary WILL have a clear shot next time.

    2. Re:Need this for friends by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Simple rule of thumb: If you know that Hillary colluded with the DNC to sabotage Bernie's campaign, then, directly or indirectly, you were exposed to Russian propaganda.

      The dastardly Russians used a sneaky and underhanded technique called "telling the truth".

    3. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's truly weird how over a year after President Trump won the election, and nearly a year since he assumed power, the left is still oblivious as to why they lost the election. They keep blaming 'Russians' and 'Nazis' and whoever else they can scapegoat. Yet they never look at themselves! They lost because they ran a candidate who was widely disliked. They lost because they didn't have a positive and encouraging vision like the one that President Trump presented to the nation. They lost because they tried to use identity politics to divide the electorate, instead of uniting all Americans like President Trump did. They lost because of themselves and their own actions. Yet they refuse to understand and admit this, and instead blame literally everyone and everything else for their total failure. It's truly weird!

    4. Re:Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use that tool and you'll be on a list. Guaranteed.

    5. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The losers refuse to evaluate themselves and instead blame anyone and everyone for losing the election. The bottom line is: Just how bad do you have to be where even Trump looks like a better choice? Clinton had more monetary support and political savvy. Clinton had an army of fanatical supporters. She had the golden opportunity to win over the majority of female voters. She had hands on experience from serving as co-President for 8 years, serving as a Senator and the Secretary of State. She had all this going for her and still lost. She pandered to the noisy minorities while ignoring large swaths of the electorate. In the end it was her vocal supporters who insulted all the white, heterosexual, religion practitioners. Islam was Ok but all other religious dominations were bad, and of course all those without a college degree. Her supporters were so obnoxious and condescending that people would have elected anyone just to make sure these obnoxious morons lost. That is why Trump won.

    6. Re:Need this for friends by easyTree · · Score: 5, Funny

      The dastardly Russians used a sneaky and underhanded technique called "telling the truth"

      There's no precedent for it and it's not wanted. This red threat will be stamped out.

    7. Re:Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Ironic, isn't it? If (and that's a big "if") the Russians did work against Hillary in the last election, then they prevented a Stalin from gaining power.

    8. Re:Need this for friends by sycodon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When are they going to release a tool that lets you see if you have been exposed to domestic propaganda?

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    9. Re:Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So in your mind it would be 'lovely' to gaslight and piss off your friends? Maybe you could do them a favor and just pre-maturely cut them off. They may accidentally say something that pisses you off.

      OR you could be a nice person suck it up and realize your friends and family are not you. Stop being controlling.

    10. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You stupid silly sand n1gger haven't left the country yet, as you swore to do before the election. What makes you suddenly trustworthy now?

    11. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give it the fuck up. The election is over. Find something else to do.

    12. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stalin was better than White Supremacist Hitler who went on an offensive war. Same thing with the last election, except that way too many rural and suburban white people think they will do better with Hitler.

    13. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She had the golden opportunity to win over the majority of female voters.

      This is total gold. So you are saying that every female would have voted for her just because she was a female. How dare you generalize women to be a herd of stupid sheep culpable by such petty pandering.

    14. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of dumb cuckservative traitor-faggots will be sticking 2x4's in their ass to staunch the stigmata bleeding from their anus when Trump gets assraped in prison for the first time.

    15. Re: Need this for friends by fred911 · · Score: 1

      That's has to be the most insightful, intelligent and non-partisan comment I've seen in the past two years. If the media, and both parties could understand 10% of the signifigance, we'd all be much better off.

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    16. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it was the fault of the Russians since they told people to vote for Trump even though they didnâ(TM)t want to.

    17. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And remember kids, only get your propaganda from "our" corporate special interests.

    18. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well either women were rising up and saying "it's time for a female president" or they weren't. And it looks like they weren't.

    19. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The sad part is that Americans are so stupid that they all vote how Putin tells them to.

    20. Re: Need this for friends by interkin3tic · · Score: 1, Troll
      I'm aware you're half trolling but there are enough delusional slashdotters here who have trouble distinguishing reality from fiction coming from the government ruling party.

      They lost because they ran a candidate who was widely disliked.

      Trump was more disliked.

      They lost because they didn't have a positive and encouraging vision like the one that President Trump presented to the nation.

      Hillary presented her vision in sane, reasoned tones and was utterly ignored by the media as it wasn't zany enough. Trump rallies were marked by threatening journalists and yelling at enemies.

      They lost because they tried to use identity politics to divide the electorate, instead of uniting all Americans like President Trump did.

      Trump pandered exclusively to whites.

      They lost because of themselves and their own actions

      HRC got 3 million more votes than Trump. Factually, she lost because we don't live in a democracy.

    21. Re: Need this for friends by hidflect · · Score: 1

      Move along, folks. Nothing to learn or discover here. There'll always be another election and we can address any issues on voting day...

    22. Re: Need this for friends by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Informative

      Both sides ran unpopular candidates. It's not like Trump had mass market appeal either, and in fact he lost the popular vote.

      What screwed the Democrats was playing defence. They tried to defend Clinton, but Trump and the far right never do that. They always attack.

      When someone points out a lie, they turn it around by accusing them of being fake news or attacking someone else unrelated (what-about-ism). They make it about someone else, look like the are winning.

      This is a great example from today: https://www.theguardian.com/wo...

      That's how you make an unpopular candidate win.

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    23. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And next election itâ(TM)s going to be worse since Hillary has gone into hiding for over a year.

    24. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hillary got in excess of 3 million votes more than Trump, what more the fuck do you want?

    25. Re:Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is complete bullshit, and every time one of my whack-job-left friends tries to show evidence for it, they wind up apologizing later for the fake-news link. Historically this falls in the same mass-delusion bucket as the Salem witch trials and UFO sightings.

    26. Re: Need this for friends by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Vladimir Putin groped me while we were riding the public bus! I think he used microaggressions, too!!

    27. Re: Need this for friends by hidflect · · Score: 1

      They're not oblivious. Pelosi, Schumer, Booker, et. al. know perfectly why they lost but to admit the truth would mean shining a spotlight on their donor base. You think they want to bring the unwashed masses of the Millenials into their party? How would they justify taking all that AIPAC, PhRMA, MIC, etc. money? Pelosi herself said they don't need change. They're doing very nicely as the well-paid cock-blockers of the Left that people actually want.

    28. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stalin? She's not even a Putin.

    29. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do have a lot of fantasies about Putin, Reverend. Is it a case of the love that dare not speak its name (in Russian, at least)?

    30. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't wait too long a mental health professional may ... may be able to assist you with your problem, but please don't wait too long.

    31. Re: Need this for friends by Kant_resistor · · Score: 1

      Well, at least one thing you wrote was true: we Americans do not live in a democracy. We never have, of course. But if you think that electing a single human being to direct the entire armed might of 350 million people, and to carry out the spending of 20-25% of their collective economic effort, in a single election, as a choice among two individuals selected by what are self-described private groups and in no way representative of the people, could somehow be turned into "democracy" by changing the electoral college as an institution, or even eliminating it, then you have been failed by your education as a citizen. That does not surprise me, because the number of people who actually understand anything about political institutions is, maybe, a few tens of thousands, at most. Democracy does not have to do with voting in an election every four years. It is a system of government where the people--all of the qualified citizens, usually qualified by property and education and armed service--meet in an assembly to make decisions, pass laws, and conduct trials as massed jurors. That is democracy. Nothing that is done in modern governments has anything--anything--to do with democracy.

    32. Re: Need this for friends by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      Is a straw man argument still a straw man argument if it's a gigantic run on, nonsense sentence?

    33. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm a Latino and I proudly voted for Trump.

      He never pandered to whites. He pandered to anyone who loves this country, works hard, and doesn't want to be on the Democratic welfare plantation.

      And fuck you for pretending I don't exist. It's a big reason why I voted for him. Tired of you smug, condescending liberals talking for me.. And so were about 30% of people like me.

    34. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stalin killed more than Hitler. Though I'd prefer no murderous dictators..

    35. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      # Mueller Aint Going Away - Your bitch ass doesn't actually exist you fakedick cuckservative about-to-get-merked faggot Trump traitor. We're going to bury your obese golden hero under the prison, and Bubba is going to take turns fucking his sons and his daughter - and probably Bannon too. What the fuck kind of name is Bannon? It's the name of a cunt who's going to write a book about his dad, the Billionaire who went to prison and got raped to death. The end, enjoy dumb bitch!

      Deplorable cocksuckers lol. You're morons. You're next.

    36. Re:Need this for friends by MatthiasF · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      A few real facts to dispute your fake news, Bernie Sanders isn't a member of the DNC, he's an Independent. The fake news you're referring to was contrived by a failed political boss (Donna Brazile) who wrote a book and spewed hate at Clinton to try to get the book sold (knowing people like you would eat it up). Brazile is the same woman who passed a question to Clinton before a town hall, so her calling anything unethical (her words for the campaign spending agreement she uses as proof of collusion) is pretty hypocritical.

      The campaign agreement mentioned let Clinton help the DNC pay off it's debts while Sanders offered little more than the bare minimum. He and his campaign openly admit to ignoring the campaign agreement they made with the party for it's support, again because he's an Independent and only used the DNC for it's data systems and such.

      But go ahead and repeat the fake news propped up by the Russian propaganda you seem to support.

    37. Re:Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That article is from May 2016, well before the full extent of Hillary's control of the DNC and their combined efforts to sabotage Bernie's campaign became public.

    38. Re:Need this for friends by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      She also colluded with the majority of the democratic primary voters.

      Cheating doesn't become "OK" just because in the end it turned out she would have won anyway.

      Do you know who else would have won anyway? Richard Nixon. So should we have given him a pass on Watergate?

    39. Re: Need this for friends by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You know what's funny though? Ask yourself where the democrats are today. No really, ask yourself. Hell ask people on the street. What's their platform? What are they doing? Who are the fresh faces? What's the party leadership? What are they doing for average people? What is their tax plan? What's their healthcare plan? What do they want to do with any other issue ranging from jobs, to border, to really anything.

      There's nothing. Nobody knows, because the democrats don't know. They're still screeching "im peach FOTYA-FAVIE!" like it's going out of style, while yelling that the family with a combined income of $50k/year are going to die because they no longer have to pay $6k/year for insurance with a $10k/deductible or be penalized $3500-9k for not paying that outrageous price in the first place.

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    40. Re: Need this for friends by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Both sides ran unpopular candidates. It's not like Trump had mass market appeal either, and in fact he lost the popular vote.

      What screwed the Democrats was playing defence. They tried to defend Clinton, but Trump and the far right never do that. They always attack.

      The popular vote means squat in US elections, so that doesn't matter. The democrats weren't playing defense, the democrats believed they had it in the bag. They believed the polls, they thought that she wouldn't need to head to the rust belt or some fly-over country state. The people in the party told her that.

      You know what Trump's attack was? Pointing out her failures, what was the democrats response? BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT, SHE'S FEMALE! And people looked left, and they looked right, and picked the person that wasn't playing identity politics, but pointing out serious flaws. It also helped that even when Trump made an ass out of himself, he rolled with his own mistakes. Self-depreciating humor is a selling point for a lot of people. I know that you really think that the "far right" is this gigantic great machine, but it's not. It's just that you're so far to the left that anyone to the right of Trotsky seems like they're right-wing.

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    41. Re: Need this for friends by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 2

      Oh crap! Now I have the image of Hillary bare-chested on horseback.

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    42. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The left need look no further than the nearest mirror for the reason they lost. Basically you're a bunch of bastards, and your own lengthy career of leftprop is a spectacular example of such.

    43. Re: Need this for friends by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The popular vote means squat in US elections, so that doesn't matter.

      The parent wasn't talking about an election, he was talking about how popular a person is.

    44. Re: Need this for friends by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      The parent wasn't talking about an election, he was talking about how popular a person is.

      Again that doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter in his home country which uses FPTP.

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    45. Re: Need this for friends by Whibla · · Score: 1

      What made me really laugh about that article was that, instead of simply apologising in the first instance, he then doubled down and insisted he'd never called it fake news.

      Do these clowns really believe that they're right as long as they always and only insist that everyone else is wrong?

      And why is making (and admitting) a mistake seen as such a bad thing anyway? They're the best learning experience we're ever going to get, and refusing to even acknowledge the mistake simply means we learned nothing from it and, therefore, will just continue to make the same mistakes again and again. That's not a trait I'd want to see in people I were appointing to positions of 'authority'.

    46. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The left is very much aware of why they lost. They fielded an unlikable candidate with a ton of baggage. I mean the republicans did the same thing, but at least there was a glimmer of hope he would do something different. The Russian thing is about ensuring our elections are actually the will of the people, not the will of a foreign adversary trying to weaken us. The election is the Achilles heel of democracy, and the Russians know it. It should worry you the president, though perfectly in his right to celebrate his hard won and legitimate victory, isn't taking the threat seriously. He might be on the losing end of foreign meddling next time if he doesn't take action. Plus there's the matter of the company he kept, who seemed to all be in for some other nation than America.

    47. Re:Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Telling the truth can under some circumstances be a lie because it creates an unbalance between truths.

      Let's just imagine that a S somebody knows something about a group A and an other thing about group B. The S gets a reward telling the truth about A but not when revealing the truth about B. Revealing both A and B is a status quo: both truth are equally damaging for A and B.

      To your opinion revealing the truth about A and not about B is a assimilated to some king of universal truth. But it is not, S is a lying by omission. A is shown under an unfavorable light relatively to B but the reality is that they are both equally despiteful.

    48. Re: Need this for friends by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Did you get dropped on your head as a child? It doesn't matter what electoral system is used when talking about the fact that Trump isn't the most popular.

      You're defending an argument no one is making or arguing against and all you're achieving is making others thing you were dropped on your head as a child.

    49. Re: Need this for friends by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      My view is so weak, that I've resorted to attacking the person and not the argument.

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    50. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how does it feel to vote for a guy who called you a rapist and said he was going to deport you.

    51. Re:Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was more than just that, stupid LaoWai.

    52. Re: Need this for friends by DogDude · · Score: 1

      Comrade, you are correct! Trump is a "uniter" and has a "positive and encouraging vision"!

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    53. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just FYI: The left never supported the Democratic Party, including Senator Sanders, who's basically just a Centrist populist. Some supported Dr. Jill Stein, some did not.

      Also, even the, let's be generous and call it more progressive kind of Democrats know why "they" lost the election - they lost because they lost the primaries to Clinton; or if you want to be more sectarian - because the DNC rigged the primaries in favor of Clinton.

    54. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, voting was mostly along party lines. But - a huge number of Democrats just didn't show up. So it's not that "the people" chose Trump; less people voted for him than for Mitt Romney. It's that the people, or rather more progressive people, chose not to come out and vote for Clinton.

    55. Re:Need this for friends by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      Do you know who else would have won anyway? Richard Nixon. So should we have given him a pass on Watergate?

      ... I mean, we did? He did win the election, and Ford did pardon him...

      Cheating doesn't become "OK" just because in the end it turned out she would have won anyway.

      The claim floating around isn't just that she cheated, but that the cheating tipped the primary. The first part is feasible, the second part is not. I wasn't excusing any cheating, only pointing out that the wild-eyed claims that Bernie would have won the primary and then dominated the election are utter nonsense designed to divide and conquer.

    56. Re:Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like how Political Humor massively upvoted Trump's tax plan when they thought it was Bernie's, then deleted it.

      They're mad at anyone who points out the hypocrisy of the left. Who knew that Islam was feminist?

    57. Re:Need this for friends by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      When so much advertising is pay per view, it's silly that the statistics still only count clicks.

    58. Re: Need this for friends by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      There will be another election. Why do you want an election system dominated by foreign interests?

    59. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      instead of uniting all Americans like President Trump did.

      Wow, this is so rich, it's... well, actually kind of boring at this point. But just for grins, let's see if I can find a few times Trump tried to unite people:
      Women: "Blood coming from Megyn Kelly's whatever", "I just grab em by the p***y"
      Mexicans are "rapists", incapable of being Judges.
      Iowans: "How stupid are the people of Iowa?"
      Bush supporters: Too many quotes to list
      Cruz supporters: 'Ted's father killed JFK'
      Muslims should be banned (reminder there's over 3 million Muslim American citizens)
      Vets, anyone brave enough to actually be drafted and run the risk of capture. "I [only like soldiers] who weren’t captured"
      All targets of the KKK: Some KKK are "very fine people"
      All targets of racism: Some racists are "very fine people"
      God the list could go on for ever. Lately, it's a message to anyone opposed to pedophilia: "Vote for Moore".
      I guess the argument could be made that he's offended everyone except white male racist terrorist pedophiles. So we should technically all be united. Ya, he needs to offend that group, then the statement will actually be true.

    60. Re: Need this for friends by acrimonious+howard · · Score: 1

      instead of uniting all Americans like President Trump did.

      Wow, this is so rich, it's... well, actually kind of boring at this point. But just for grins, let's see if I can find a few times Trump tried to unite people:
      Women: "Blood coming from Megyn Kelly's whatever", "I just grab em by the p***y"
      Mexicans are "rapists", incapable of being Judges.
      Iowans: "How stupid are the people of Iowa?"
      Bush supporters: Too many quotes to list
      Cruz supporters: 'Ted's father killed JFK'
      Muslims should be banned (reminder there's over 3 million Muslim American citizens)
      Vets, anyone brave enough to actually be drafted and run the risk of capture. "I [only like soldiers] who weren’t captured"
      All targets of the KKK: Some KKK are "very fine people"
      All targets of racism: Some racists are "very fine people"
      God the list could go on for ever. Lately, it's a message to anyone opposed to pedophilia: "Vote for Moore".
      I guess the argument could be made that he's offended everyone except white male racist terrorist pedophiles. So we should technically all be united. Ya, he needs to offend that group, then the statement will actually be true.


      FYI I'm reposting since I didn't realize I wasn't logged in.

    61. Re: Need this for friends by acrimonious+howard · · Score: 0

      Well said. Heh, I can tell by this score, the Russian trolls are back. I was wondering where they went.

    62. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, voting was mostly along party lines. But - a huge number of Democrats just didn't show up

      Your second statement invalidates your first. If a bunch of Democrats didn't show up, then you can't say that people voted along party lines. Those democrats certainly didn't. The number of 3rd party votes also went up, further indicating there were less people voting along party lines than before!

      So it's not that "the people" chose Trump

      No, they did choose for him. He won the election, just like how Obama or Bush Jr or Bill Clinton or any other POTUS won theirs. If he somehow isn't the one "the people" choose, then neither are all the previous presidents.

      Now, you could try, like the left has, to prove that he didn't win the election legitimately or fairly, but until you actually do that, he is the one the people choose.

      less people voted for him than for Mitt Romney.

      So? Less people showed up for Hillary than for Obama.

      It's that the people, or rather more progressive people, chose not to come out and vote for Clinton.

      Other way around. The people who didn't come out for Hillary were NON-progressive people, who didn't like the Democrats going too far with the progressivism.

      The super progressives within the democrats are another group altogether. They, being so progressive, stuck with the Democrats, but after they lost they started splitting off, like forming this "Justice Democrats" thing Cenk Uygur started (but funny enough Cenk is being asked to leave it over some sexist blog posts he made decades ago... kinda funny as it seems so many of those who preach about being Progressive don't actually practice it)

    63. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Identity politics? Lol. Trump's entire campaign was based on race baiting and identity politics. I know this is going to come as a shock to you but his campaign rhetoric for White Christian makes was playing identity politics.

    64. Re: Need this for friends by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      They lost because they ran a candidate who was widely disliked.

      More than Trump? Give me a break. And Ivan, you are glossing over a host of other dirty tricks, such as widespread and methodical Republican gerrymandering.

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    65. Re: Need this for friends by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      we Americans do not live in a democracy. We never have, of course.

      You are an idiot.

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    66. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stigginit! As long as the libruls are crying, it's worth any cost, amirite?

    67. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a Latino and I proudly voted for Trump.

      He never pandered to whites. He pandered to anyone who loves this country, works hard, and doesn't want to be on the Democratic welfare plantation.

      And fuck you for pretending I don't exist. It's a big reason why I voted for him. Tired of you smug, condescending liberals talking for me.. And so were about 30% of people like me.

      I'm a hot girl with questionable morals and I proudly voted for Trump as well.

      All of us at my sorority supported him for the same memes as the above poster did. Amen.

  2. First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First Post in a first past the post thred

  3. I didn't use Facebook or Instagram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So I'm safe. Unlike the rest of you dweebs.

  4. HA! HA! HA! Told you so!!! by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Joe McCarthy was right!!!!!!

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    1. Re: HA! HA! HA! Told you so!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Luckily there's Tolerant Liberals like you around to fight anyone who stereotypes or demeans people they don't like.

    2. Re: HA! HA! HA! Told you so!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're going to put you faggot nazis back in the ground.

    3. Re:HA! HA! HA! Told you so!!! by slshdtisctrldbysjws · · Score: 0

      Actually he kind of was. Nice virtue signalling though.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  5. What about the others. by labnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While they are at it, can they show me NSA, CIA, FBI, Plus every other propaganda agency of every other government. Why just single out the Russians.

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    1. Re:What about the others. by techno_dan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree. I want to know about all propaganda, not just Russian. I feel that most of the propaganda is from the U.S.

    2. Re:What about the others. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Feel"? The various candidates spent almost $7 billion on propaganda in 2016 alone. The other day the BBC was complaining about how Russia spent 97 fucking cents on facebook ads to "influence" brexit.

    3. Re:What about the others. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, can I check to see if my shadow profile (the one I sure as fuck did not create) has interacted with any Russian propaganda?

      Social media is fake news. Real social interaction happens in real space.

    4. Re:What about the others. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The NSA, CIA, FBI domestic good news is now legal with changes to the Smith–Mundt Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...–Mundt_Act
      Domestic US propaganda like this is now legal and well funded.

      Thanks to the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act expect a daily flow of fake news from the best minds in the USA.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    5. Re:What about the others. by quenda · · Score: 1

      While they are at it, can they show me NSA, CIA, FBI,

      Nah, this is about foreign interference in US elections, not US interference in foreign elections.
      Let other countries like Ukraine worry about CIA interference.

    6. Re:What about the others. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the domestic spy agencies were working for the democrats and Zucc likes them.

    7. Re:What about the others. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why just single out the Russians.

      Russia has by far the largest propaganda team that is focused on affairs of foreign nations (China only gives a damn about China related stuff). Additionally, the effect (if not also the intent) of their propaganda is causing civil unrest. This is why Russia is being singled out.

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    8. Re:What about the others. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excellent use of whataboutism here! Keep up the good work, comrade! #MAGA

    9. Re:What about the others. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be CNN and NPR etc

    10. Re: What about the others. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to see you try, sand monkey.
      Hint: start with faggots, the easier part.

    11. Re:What about the others. by pots · · Score: 1

      The parent may be trolling, but I am totally on board with that idea. Maybe they should start with the Russians, but in the long term greater transparency in advertising (and elsewhere) can only be a good thing. After all, while it may be primarily the Russians right now there's no reason to believe that this will always be the case.

    12. Re:What about the others. by cold+fjord · · Score: 1

      While they are at it, can they show me NSA, CIA, FBI, Plus every other propaganda agency of every other government. Why just single out the Russians.

      It may take some time, but the role that at least some of them played (if any) will come out.

      House Republicans quietly investigate perceived corruption at DOJ, FBI

      Paul Calls For Investigation of Obama Officials: Collusion Against Trump Could Be 'Worse Than Watergate'

      After it comes out there may be people going to jail ... and it probably won't be Trump's associates.

      Indeed, more interesting things keep emerging with time . . .

      The secret backstory of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook

      While we're waiting for all of the unpleasantness to be revealed perhaps you'd like to listen to some Maurice Chevalier, Édith Piaf , or Vera Lynn ?

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    13. Re: What about the others. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, but the FBI, unlike the Russians, supported the right candidate. As weâ(TM)re seeing with he Mueller drones, they all are Hillary supporters. We need to do what the FBI tells us to do and not anyone else.

    14. Re:What about the others. by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      RE China, they also have little need to disrupt the rest of the world in order to continue gaining power. Economically, militarily, and geo-politically, they've been gaining ground since before the right wing of the US started fighting with the rest of the US. Russia is the world power whose only chance for gaining power is the rest of us voluntarily losing it through insanity. They have a declining population, an aging military, and an economy that is almost entirely oil.

    15. Re: What about the others. by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Are your sure it's not domestic propaganda that's causing civil unrest?

    16. Re: What about the others. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good morning, Agent Smith! How's the weather in Fort Meade today?

    17. Re:What about the others. by Nexion · · Score: 1

      You stress Russia as a propaganda source and contrast it against China who seems self involved. I find it humorous that our people, as someone in the US, complains about "Russian interference" while living in a country that absolutely spent decades interfering with other countries. The history of attempts to kill Castro are a great source of humor, but you would have to be blind to think we don't do the same thing to other countries as has been alleged of Russia. After all, we can't really prove any of this. I can't prove US manipulation of other countries. Well, beyond the declassified. Attempts to overthrow governments, manipulation of their people and black ops designed to change the shape of the world are just par for the course.

      Still... it is no surprise to me that the governments of this world are playing a sick game playing fast and loose with the truth. I think we need to keep in mind that old saying that we should believe none of what we hear and only half of what we see.

    18. Re:What about the others. by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      Excellent use of whataboutism here! Keep up the good work, comrade! #MAGA

      Personally I don't believe in the general proposition foreign interests should be banned from attempting to exert political influence.

      There is some outlier behavior on the part of Russia + Trump that deserves special attention.

      1. Russia seems to have successfully captured a sitting US president.
      2. Active hax0r attacks conducted in furtherance of their influence goals broke US law.

      Yet Russian Facebook propaganda activity by itself had little or nothing to do with either of the above. Why should I care?

    19. Re: What about the others. by nyri · · Score: 1

      Yeah, no. You wrong. Largest foreign PR operation in US is Israel. Funny thing, it is so successful that US is basically paying it.

      This Russian thing. It is basically DNC PR operation.

    20. Re: What about the others. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Fox News certainly isn't helping matters but their purpose is to get ratings, not civil unrest.

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  6. Now do the same for Correct The Record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or Club For Growth
    or Priorities USA
    or Right To Rise
    or the DNC/RNC
    or...

    When your own country is pumping out propaganda at a rate 5-6 orders of magnitude larger than the evil foreign boogeyman of the day, you need to just fucking shut up. Just because the country is full of white people doesn't make xenophobic scapegoating ok.

    1. Re: Now do the same for Correct The Record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up.

      Let's see , a graph, of how those of you who viewed FB (not me) , viewed paid political posts. Show em all.

    2. Re: Now do the same for Correct The Record by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      From their website: "Priorities USA is a voter-centric progressive advocacy organization and service center for the grassroots progressive movement."

      Any time you see an organization self-describe as "grassroots", you know they are funded by oligarchs and advocate policies that are harmful to working people.

  7. Simple algorithm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If user!=Hillary fan
    Then Russia influence == yep

  8. Foxxy ./ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oy Vey!!!

  9. Re: We get more "Russia" than Linux or programming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Your search is garbage comrade as slashdot has been talking about the glorious socialism of Linux for 30 years

  10. No tool necessary by RyoShin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Answer this simple quiz to know if you've encountered Russian Propoganda:
    1) Have you ever been on the internet?

    If you answered "yes", then congratulations!? You've encountered Russian Propaganda. And American Propaganda. And probably Botswana Propaganda. Maybe some Klingon stuff, too.

    I guess if you want to know if you interacted instead of just encountered you'll have to use that tool, and another for Twitter, and another for Tumblr, and another for LiveJournal[1], etc. I'm not trying to dismiss Russian interference (it's not good, and no, neither is American interference in foreign elections), but propaganda without direct interactions (such as, say, talking to certain members of a certain transition team for a certain President-Elect) has been blown out of proportion for their effect. With or without that interference, >40% of American voters didn't vote (or were blocked from voting), and about ~50% of those who did are idiots[2].

    [1] Yes I know LiveJournal is owned by a Russian company.
    [2] I leave it to the reader apply this assessment to whichever tribe they don't belong to.

    1. Re:No tool necessary by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      I think you're right... there is some foreign propaganda, but how much influence has it really had on recent elections? It's interesting how loudly people decry Russian interference in our affairs, yet don't seem to want to know how far that influence extends.

      Maybe because the Russians are a convenient scapegoat for whatever is wrong with politics. Or they are a great excuse to curb free speech: our minister of the interior is adamant that 'something' needs to be done to combat trolls, by which she means not just the Russian ones but any troll spreading 'fake news'. She cites Russian influence in our own country but when pressed for examples could name only one single (and insignificant) website... When people - even the ones who should know better - talk about fake news, often as not they seem to mean "stuff we don't want to hear"

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    2. Re:No tool necessary by fatwilbur · · Score: 1

      If simply placing the wrong ideas in front of people causes society to fall apart, then we have already lost. The only way we can possibly be sustainable as a society is when most people can look at any idea, any idea or words possible, and rightly decide what is rubbish and what is a reasonable idea. Thus, education and exposing people to all words and concepts is the only possible way forward.

      Those who say that certain ideas are dangerous and want to prevent people from seeing them are the ones to be truly worried about, because what they really wish for is that you do not apply the same rational thinking to their ideas, and rightly decide they are rubbish. They just want to be the ones in control of your thoughts.

  11. As a Republican, I see this as a net positive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Republicans won't give a shit, while terminally paranoid democrats who find out they liked a pro-BLM post made by Russians suddenly won't know what to believe anymore.

    1. Re:As a Republican, I see this as a net positive. by arbiter1 · · Score: 1

      Since its a tool rolled out by facebook yea i wouldn't trust it completely. Wouldn't shock me if it was bit leaning in democrat's favor in things.

    2. Re:As a Republican, I see this as a net positive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think facebook will not sell the list of people who used this tool to the highest bidders (Russian or not), then I have this nice bridge you might be interested in buying.

      This tool regardless of any bias is not to help users, it is to collect more valuable information that can be sold.

      When the magic thinking of money from nothing is the basis of a society, then all manner of insanity will result.

    3. Re: As a Republican, I see this as a net positive. by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Facebook always lies.

      Time for antitrust action against FB?

    4. Re: As a Republican, I see this as a net positive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [Trump's Digital Director Greg] Parscale received help utilizing Facebook's technology from Facebook employees provided by the company who showed up for work to his office multiple days a week. He says they had to be partisan and he questioned them to make sure. "I wanted people who supported Donald Trump."

    5. Re: As a Republican, I see this as a net positive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I call bullshit. No way they found multiple facebook employees who supported Trump.

    6. Re: As a Republican, I see this as a net positive. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Seems it's past time for that. At least Russian trolls have to work in the open. I'm much more worried about the amount of unseen influence FB, Google and Twitter can exert on public opinion simply by manipulating ranking in search results and timelines.

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  12. Re: We get more "Russia" than Linux or programmin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux is mainly developed by people working with/for large corporations like Intel, Red Hat and IBM, amongst others. [1] Linux is a product of capitalism.

    [1] https://www.linuxfoundation.org/2017-linux-kernel-report-landing-page/

  13. Did you read /.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If so, the answer is yes.

  14. Russia Could not Steal the election. by Zombie+Ryushu · · Score: 0, Troll

    Look. The US 2016 Election happened for a few reasons:

    1. Mass White Supremacist Blowback from 8 years of having a black President.
    2. Right Wing anti-worker and anti-union behaviour that crushed the Middle Class. Socially, Obama was a liberal President. But Economically, he was a Center Right Wing Republican. He signed the TPP, which had it been ratified, would have created one of the worst International Oligarchies of Human history over the planet Earth.
    3. A series of "Voter ID Laws" that were intended to allow Republicans in Northern states and other places to steal elections by denying young people, and people of color the right to vote. They are effectively Jim Crow laws, but targeted at Black people specifically.
    4. The Rise of a Radical Christian Dominionist Congress in 2013, that was only ever held in check by Presidential Veto.
    5. The fact that the Democrats effectively put up the worst Candiate possible to galvanize Right Wing Hate of the US left. They alienated Populists who feared - again, that the TPP would have been ratified under a Congress with Hilary Clinton as President.

    What can fix this?
    1. The 2018 Elections need to be a complete revolt against the Republican Party. There needs to be a bounce back of the liberal left and an refutation of the Conservative Christian right, as secular instutions the right is dismantling by Christian Fascists get reassembled.

    -Or-
    The US Breaks up leading to civil war.

    1. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by Shogun37 · · Score: 1

      I'm not looking to start a flame war, but how does showing an id before one is allowed to vote racist?

    2. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by Zombie+Ryushu · · Score: 2

      Its not the fact that ID was required to be shown. It was the fact that certain ID Types were Permitted. Texas was the most Severe and Egregious example. They permitted you to use Driver's Licenses, and Gun Permits, but not State ID cards (which are the same thing as a Driver's Licence, but say they are for ID only, typically people with disabilities have them, and you can even buy Alcohol with them, or Student ID cards issued from Universities.)

    3. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Having a candidate who could give speeches in more states that people actually wanted to listen to helps win elections.
      Listening to people all over the USA rather than lecturing them might also help win elections given the need to win in different states all over the USA.
      Been able to talk to people not down to them might be something a candidate could try too.
      Thats all internal party skills. For one party to understand and another party to try next election.
      Find a person more people all around the USA actually like.
      Staying near the elite coast and giving short statements to the media won't win an election.

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    4. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by Shogun37 · · Score: 1

      Student IDs,I could see not taking. Too easy to fake. Thanks for the answer.

    5. Re: Russia Could not Steal the election. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does somebody's race prevent them from getting the relevant ID card? Don't bother with excuses like 'poverty' or 'a lack of transportation'. Those things can and do affect people of all races. The only reason somebody wouldn't have the proper ID is because of their own laziness. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it.

    6. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by Jack9 · · Score: 1

      > 1. Mass White Supremacist Blowback from 8 years of having a black President.

      I still don't think that demographic matters. Obama got re-elected, so they only get mobilized after 8 years? Absurd.

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    7. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Texas has been offering FREE voter ID cards since 2013. You're flat out wrong here. I get the whole student ID thing, because it does not necessarily prove you are a resident of Texas; for example, my wife is a student of SNHU and she has a student ID card - but we live, full time, in California and have never been to New Hampshire.

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    8. Re: Russia Could not Steal the election. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To get a photo id in texas it requires to forms of id. The accepted forms of id include ssi card, birth certificate, current passport, expired texas photo id, current military id. Exactly one of those is free and none can be obtained without a photo id without a bureaucratic nightmare. The law was design to disenfranchise first generation Hispanics who often don't have the two forms and it is cost prohibitive to obtain it (several days off of work, traveling serveral counties over to find a dps office to get a photo id, etc.). My dad drivers license was lost by a court clerk. The State of Texas would not issue him a new one without those two forms dispite have a copy in front of the dps clerk of his old license with his picture. He had to renew his passport to get a new license. My mom had to get her named changed on her drivers license, because in the 70's Texas put the maiden name as a middle name on driver's licenses, so her id did not match her voter id card.

    9. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US Breaks up leading to civil war.

      Which will rid us of Liberals, so you shouldn't look forward to it.

    10. Re: Russia Could not Steal the election. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither should the conservatives. International allies are not on your side. And there are plenty of soft targets to attack conservatives. I was worried that the Las Vegas shooting was going to be the start. But luckily it was just conservative on conservative violence.

    11. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      After those 8 years, it seems people were not so much pissed at Obama but rather somewhat desillusioned. The crap economy didn't help (even if that wasn't exactly the president's fault). So people were ready for change, especially in getting some new blood and new politics into the White House. The Democrats proffered a candidate who for many people was the very embodiment of old, inbred and elitist politics. The Republicans had their bull in a china shop. In a country looking for a new broom, this was a choice between the devil you know and the devil you don't know.

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  15. I don't need to by Berkyjay · · Score: 1

    Because I don't argue with random strangers on Facebook, nor do I allow anyone but my connected friends comment or even see my posts. If you let this shit be public then you're an idiot and deserve to be trolled.

  16. My results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It says 99% of my interactions were with dank memes and 1% was my own political shitposting, usually also in meme form.

  17. Linked page was just a press release by Walking+The+Walk · · Score: 2

    There's no tool at the linked page, or at least not displayed to me. Just a video and some bullet points saying that FB takes security seriously, will be removing fake accounts, and provided 3k ads to Congress. I'm in Canada and logged in to Facebook from a Canadian IP address, is this tool only being displayed to people who visit from an IP address geo-located to the USA?

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    1. Re:Linked page was just a press release by petes_PoV · · Score: 2
      Same here. Maybe the tool is only available to those who *did* see, like or write russian propaganda.

      Or maybe the whole thing is just someone else's propaganda?

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  18. Easy self-test by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    How to tell if you've interacted with, and likely been indoctrinated by, Russian propaganda: If you're still reading this then it means you care whether you have, so you haven't. If you don't care whether you did, then you did.

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  19. u.s also Re:Linked page was just a press release by Invisible+Now · · Score: 1

    us IP address and all I saw was fluff, no tool.

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  20. Here is a much easier way to check.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Never went to Facebook. Never read the articles. Never pretended they were news.

    I'm good.

  21. How can I check if.... by slshdtisctrldbysjws · · Score: 0

    ....I interacted with liberal divide-and-conquer propaganda on Slashdot during the aftermath of the 2016 election?

    Oh, never mind, I figured it out.

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  22. Re: We get more "Russia" than Linux or programmi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is programmed and improved by anyone, and it is often given away for free. Sounds like socialism to me.

  23. Did you vote for Hillary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then you interacted with Russian propaganda.

    This slashdot article is 100% propaganda.

    Caveat emptor.

  24. We ... didn't ... need ... any ... propaganda ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... when will you get it?

    Hillary Clinton was unlikable, had nothing positive going for her, was a terrible campaigner, and oh yeah, both horrifically and comically mishandled classified information. And that's just for starters.

    All that was real, no Russian anything needed. You lost because you sucked.

    But please, keep deluding yourselves. It can only make your next loss more likely.

  25. Ironic by Fragholio · · Score: 1

    Wow...filter out all of the Anonymous Coward "propaganda" here and the comments section starts to look like an actual discussion of sorts.

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  26. Do you exist in reality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then you didn't interact with "Russian propaganda". You may have interacted with a Russian click farm that had nothing to do with influencing the election and everything to do with making money, though.

  27. "This feature is only available on desktop." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think I understand Facebook's mobile strategy now.

  28. This is an easy one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Self-check:

    Don't have facebook - Check
    Aren't easily swayed by popular opinion - Check
    Thinks social media is like middle schoool all over again - Check
    Thinks facebook is the new aol/geocities - Check

    That was easy, I did not interact with Russian propaganda (or anything) on facebook.

  29. Don't use Facebook? Not getting Russian propaganda by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
    Well, not from that source anyway. Whether my wife whispers Russian propaganda into my ear as I sleep is a bit harder to be sure about. Then again, since she has chosen (for the time being) to live in the West, she's not got a lot of reason to propagandise.

    Unless we move back.

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  30. OMG, people are still primitive superstitious fear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You may have interacted with an unclean spirit and not known it! You may be tarnished! Your soul may be at stake! Come to the church, witch doctor, voodoo priestess to be checked out!"

    I haven't seen such ridiculous propaganda about the dangers of, call, Russians, since the 50's but back then there was something to fear. Actually this propaganda is on the level of 1930s Germany about Jews. And millions of Americans actually believe this crap.

    "OMG, I may have read some really crappy political ad (see Scott Adams who reviewed them to see how horrible they were) and I may now be unclean!!!

    People remain ignorant superstitious idiots especially in America those on the left who are told over and over they are the smartest people in the world just as long as they believe and regurgitate what they are told to believe this week by a media whose daily propaganda has become cartoonish to anyone not in the cult of the Left.

  31. easy by gravewax · · Score: 1

    look in the mirror, are you a retard that uses sites like facebook for your news? if so you probably should have your right to vote removed for the safety of others.

  32. OK, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about if I want to know if I've interacted with American propaganda? Or UK, or German, or Chinese, or EU?

  33. Re: Oh my SNOWDEN I feel violated! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll explain, since you pretend not to understand. This is bad because it it's a foreign government secretly creating and pushing propaganda pretending to be from US citizens.

    Snowden is still a hero of the anti-authoritarian left. That he ended up in Russia was the US government's decision, not his.

  34. Not weird at all by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    It's truly weird how over a year after President Trump won the election, and nearly a year since he assumed power, the left is still oblivious as to why they lost the election.

    It's not weird at all.

    They need to justify ever more mechanisms for throttling molding the information that people see. Even though the mainstream media gave her a lopsided boost, even though the DNC sacrificed their down-ballot elections to get her elected *and* cheated in the run up to the election, even though Facebook and Twitter and Google were banning people, deleting accounts, and reading peoples' documents, despite an army of "correct the record" trolls... despite all that, she still lost.

    They're putting in place the very mechanisms that will give them more control over the future narrative.

    Their propaganda machine wasn't powerful enough, they're fixing it so that it'll be more powerful next time.

    1. Re:Not weird at all by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Their propaganda machine wasn't powerful enough, they're fixing it so that it'll be more powerful next time.

      I don't think their propaganda machine could have been more powerful then it was. It was more to the fact that they turned voters off to them by their actions more then anything. Hell you can dig through the DNC email leaks and so on and find out just how much they blew on corrupting /r/politics and /r/worldnews, and it still didn't work out for them. If anything, these actions that they're employing are working in a negative fashion. I'm going to point to Canada, where the federal Liberal Party and the Liberal Party of Ontario have tried to use the same methods, and employ the same methods. It's fundamentally backfiring and it's tanking both parties. Currently Trudeau Jr., is trying to cover-up that he broke ethics rules, and accepted bribes. The more they hand wave, the harder people look and it turns more people to other parties. People who were centre-right are hard-pushing towards the CPC, long-time party members are bailing for anyone else as well.

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  35. Oh sure... by Nexion · · Score: 1

    Let me just log into uber creeper website that TOTALLY deserves our trust as an authority on the "truth".

  36. Are you Russian? by rsilvergun · · Score: 0

    because that's some mighty fine Whataboutsim right there. It's also got nothing to do with the conversation, which is about Russian election interference which noone disputes was anything less than 100% pro-Trump.

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    1. Re: Are you Russian? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh what?

      Over 50% of it was pro Hillary... You fucking imbecile.

    2. Re: Are you Russian? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shh! Pointing out that most of the "russian propaganda" was really people on VPN's buying pro-Hillary and pro-BLM advertisements is whataboutism. We are talking about how Russia is bad and that is the only reason why Trump is in power and he is bad because reasons. We shall keep a razorsharp focus on this very specific topic to ensure that no common sense, context, or deplorable evidence can upset the narrative.

    3. Re:Are you Russian? by WaffleMonster · · Score: 0

      because that's some mighty fine Whataboutsim right there. It's also got nothing to do with the conversation, which is about Russian election interference which noone disputes was anything less than 100% pro-Trump.

      Who cares if Russia blasts Facebook with propaganda? Why should I care about that? Why do Russians have any inherently less of a right to blast Facebook with propaganda than your local variety of ultra left and right wing lunatic?

      Personally I don't subscribe to the notion rights to freedom of speech nor the right to act like a dumb fuck end at arbitrary political boundaries drawn on a map.

      What Russia did went above and beyond by breaking US law penetrating into systems and exfiltrating data. I don't support or condone that (Yet can't bring myself to shed even a single tear about DNC/Podesta) ...

      This is all very much a separate matter from the issue at hand which is propaganda on Facebook... which is NOT ILLEGAL.

    4. Re:Are you Russian? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      faggot TRAITOR rot in prison with TRUMP

    5. Re:Are you Russian? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you seen any of these ads? Because news reports rarely show them. A large portion of them can easily be construed as Pro Hilary. Many were stirring racial animosity and promoting Black Lives Matter which could be seen as "get out the vote" promotion for Hilary. Doesn't fit the narrative being pushed so you will never see it on CNN.

  37. Um... because they're a hostile foreign power by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    that successfully interfered in our elections and achieved all of their ends? Maybe you agree with the Russians that Trump should be president. But it still would have been nice for America to be able to decide it's president on our own.

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    1. Re: Um... because they're a hostile foreign power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Literally nobody changed their mind based on a fucking Hillary ad on Facebook, you god damn moron...

  38. AIPAC propoganda by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    Got it, now where do I go to see if I've interacted with Israeli propaganda?

    How do I report my local politician for having failed to sufficiently express their undying admiration of Israel?

    1. Re:AIPAC propoganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great point! Now you risk being attacked by the masters! (posting anon because I'm serious and still I think they have me on some list.... remember when Snowden leaked that they have full access? it got almost no response.)

      We can't function as a country (not like we are) with these kind of powerful influences; and increasing them does MORE damage. Israel uses us as a tool; a tool they want to keep sharp but their interference weakens and harms the USA. Other nations have other more harmful motives than Israel.

  39. You are mentally ill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you actually think Russian influence caused Hillary to lose rather than Hillary herself.

    1. Re:You are mentally ill by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      No. Do you think Hillary's failings negates foreign influence over US elections?

    2. Re: You are mentally ill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only people gullible enough to believe that Jesus arm wrestling a devil Hillary would influence the election...

      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/politics/russia-2016-election-facebook.html

      Are the people gullible enough to be convinced to change their vote BY such ads.

      Q.E.D.

    3. Re: You are mentally ill by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      So, that the Russians did interfere, but it didn't change the results, means that there is no problem with foreign influence over elections, and no steps should be taken to prevent it from happening in an election where it did change the results.

      The excuses for Treason are insane.

    4. Re: You are mentally ill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have any problem with the fact that Hillary as SecState (and virtually all of her precedeccors and successors) and the CIA have been overthrowing other peoplesâ(TM) governments for decades? Perhaps you should address that problem.

    5. Re: You are mentally ill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try to stay on topic, please.

    6. Re: You are mentally ill by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      The problem started with Truman in '45 splitting Korea and giving half to the Russians as an enticement for the Russians to enter the ground war in Asia. Then continued with Eisenhower invading Vietnam to disrupt democratic elections, fearing an election of a Socialist. After WWII, the Americans were all in everyone's business. Calling out Hillary for overthrowing who? Just makes you look like a partisan hack. The CIA doesn't report to the Secretary of State, anyway.

  40. Wikileaks releases true info; gets blamed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wow, that sketchy Julian Assange. How underhanded of him to release undoctored, truthful third party content!

  41. Re: OMG, people are still primitive superstitious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No Russian propaganda, you say? Well that's put my mind at rest, a/c.

  42. Most top comments are whataboutisms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't we already learn how to ignore those? What about X? What about Y? Deflect, distract, change the topic. Tough, Russian trolls. You've been found out and your tactics are old hat. Is spamming the same strategy really all you have left?

  43. Re: Oh my SNOWDEN I feel violated! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah... CNN influenced me more than Russia.

    It didn't take Russians to show us the smug, condescending assholes that love Hillary.

  44. Here is how I checked it by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    #!/bin/ksh
    while true
    do
              print " I really don't care "
    done

  45. as opposed to Hillary propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i for one saw Hillary supporting propaganda on Facebook.

    i didn't see any Trump supporting propaganda on Facebook.

    This whole thing is the latest red scare. Hillary got caught rigging the DNC, and running guns to ISIS, yet we have this bogus story about Russia.

    It might be time to just start filtering out sites based in the US.

  46. Really ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just because Stalin was a US ally means zilch.

    The bodycount says Stalin homicided more people. He also had KZs, but called them GULAGs.

  47. According to Femi Nazis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is exactly what women are supposed to do:

    pussy votes pussy.

    Of course it is a mental desease to subscribe to Cultural Marxism and Feminism is just a branch of that.

  48. Marxism: What A Nice Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So in the Marxist system you get raped in prison ?

    Tell us more about your GULAGs !

  49. Actually.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Russians just have a thing against powerful blonde women who aren't their moms.

    They were worried if Hillary gained power in the US that Putin might be deposed as glorious leader and replaced with their own hatchetfaced sexually ambiguous female leader, and the russia patriarchy would fall into chaos, especially when it came out how many of them ascribed to the bear+cub sexual identity behind closed doors.

    So now your question should be: Is Putin a bear, or a cub?

  50. Yeah Murrican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All other nations subscribe to your Sodomist Philosophy Out Of Hollywood. Not.

  51. Sure Brute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell us more how you Marxists want to torture people as soon as you are in power.

    The world needs to know exactly how brutish you SPARTAns are.

  52. Buhuuu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except that this does not matter ACCORDING TO THE WIDELY KNOWN RULES.

    Hillary thought it would be sufficient to preach to the commies of the west and east coasts. But that was not sufficient to get a sufficient number of GEOGRAPHIC UNITS.

    Now tell us, is she dumb or is she just riding a horse too high ?

  53. New low for Slashdot? by shanen · · Score: 1

    (1) The link does not link to the described tool. None of the comments I looked at said this, which indicates that NONE of the comments were from people who had made that much effort to know what they were commenting about.

    (2) No mention of "Dark Money" or other explanations of how the elections of America have been rigged and gamed. That was a broader search beyond checking all the so-called insightful comments.

    (3) No funny comments.

    (4) Lots of trollage including bogus moderation. Doesn't really matter who's paying for it.

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  54. F*ck NSA Marxists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just using Linux will put you on a "list".

    You know what ? It is TOO CHEAP to create lists. That is the major reason they create them. They must feel important and get a paycheck. "I am responsible for the code which maintains LINUX_EVIL_USERS. May paycheck is 20k a month".

    In the big picture of 200 billions per year for snooping, you can calculate how many useless computer scientists can create "lists" per year.

  55. Hey Marxist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can I have your excrement with more sexual expletives ? And some Sleep Deprivation (courtesy OBAMA) plus a bit of waterboarding ?

    You are such nice people fighting for our future paradise where any deviants will be tortured in the most nasty manner.

  56. Social giant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It takes quite a bit of chtzpah to call Facebook a "social" giant. Black is white, high is low, and yummy is yucky.

  57. YAAAY ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We conveniently forget the "NGOs" of America, which are almost every year funding another coup d'etat somewhere. Or "color revolutions" and so on.

    Always funny to see how much a whining bitch Americans can be.

  58. Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was a time in the late 80s, 90s and early 2000s when Anglosaxon-made Bullshit Ruled Supreme. The bullshit worked to nicely they could pull Gorbachev over the table. He believed the US corporatist nonsense so completely that they allowed Russian industry to go to the gutter while US+vasall corporations could take over Ex-Soviet markets. Damn the jobs of Russian workers.

    After more than a decade of hardship the Russians and many others have learned to decode and deconstruct the US bullshit machine. That irks the US and their collaborateurs in Europe and around the globe.

  59. Go home Equifax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is how propaganda checks to interact with you.

  60. Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given that America has started civil wars in lots of nations (including Iraq and Syria), KARMA would imply it is now Americas turn for a nice civil war.

  61. BINGO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An industry of dozens of billions - the mainstream media industry - feels threatened. They know that their cushy jobs and the billions coming from the MIC and other corporations are at stake. The MSM mostly employs Cultural Marxists.

    So they must discredit ANY form of citizen-journalism, including Facebook. If Slashdot mattered in the big scheme of things, it would be somehow denounced, too.

    Just keeping a matter in discussion is a "sin" according to the MSM. Because the MSM has a "news cycle" and they want to determine the time period when a certain issue can be discussed. Discussing an issue "for too long" is against their plans.

  62. How I know by Jbcarpen · · Score: 1

    I didn't interact with facebook at all during the election. I have it listed as an untrusted domain.

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  63. LOL! by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

    I'm not on facebook! I'm smarter than that.

  64. Is this Propaganda? - leave it out Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, Slashdot is turning into more like Presstitute Media.

    Slashdot, leave the political propaganda alone

  65. If you voted hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you voted hillary, you already are in bed with the Russians, dictators, and despots. You are the propaganda machine.

  66. Kekistan by j0uSt · · Score: 0

    No KEK here.. please move along.

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  67. Slashdot Tool? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we get a similar tool to see all the Russian Trolls who post and upvote in the Slashdot comments? I can see at least half a dozen in this thread already...

  68. VOTER ID = anti-democratic. period. by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    All we have is YEARS of propaganda-- Bush had 8 years and investigated the whole time and for 6 years having more GOP controlled government ever. Found NOTHING. They only proposed solutions to problems they NEVER proved existed.

    I've heard GOP strategist admit higher voter turn out kills them; they pray for rain and snow on election day. THE GOP FIGHTS EVERY ATTEMPT TO PROMOTE DEMOCRACY. Multiple days to vote? oppose it. Holiday to vote? oppose it. Easy process to vote? oppose it. They only sometimes allow something in specific situations where it is publicly known to help them (meaning it's so strong you can easily find why.)

    Why don't we FIX social security numbers and most the Identity Theft problems in the USA (when other nations have already?) It's the GOP. seriously. A working Identifier system and Verification system would inevitably be used for voting. That is how much the GOP wants voting broken.

    DRIVERS LICENSE / State ID. Yes, there are some illegals with them. There are SIMPLE solutions to that problem; but we are not even allowed to hear those without being drowned out with GOP propaganda. I've seen it 1st hand being involved in such issues lobbying and volunteering.

    VOTER IDs are a SCAM... a HACK of the system. SIMPLE IS HARD TO HACK-- voter IDs are complex nightmares on purpose. No, they can't be done simple... the devil is in the details and even if you have perfect details; some corruption WILL happen to put in loopholes later! Which again is why it must be DEAD SIMPLE. Voter IDs are never simple!

    Criminals are citizens and their alienable right to vote exists even if we stupidly infringe upon that right. it is NOT a privilege! When you take away voting rights of minorities (criminals) your actions prove you treat it as a privilege, not a right. Even more stupid is how many are in jail and when their "debt" is payed they still can't vote. You judge a society by how it treats the lowly. Criminals are a common excuse for many undemocratic laws. Illegals are a big one too. SIMPLE IS HARD TO HACK. proving citizenship is harder; I'm for it... but voting comes 1st, residency 2nd, citizenship 3rd. if you really believe in democracy, you would have your priorities straight.

    Residency restrictions (double voting) is a bigger issue but it largely curbs illegals at the same time since they are similar problems.... devil is in the details. Yes, double voting is rare... but so are illegals. REMEMBER, it's been heavily investigated for decades by the same people claiming it is a problem. Now your state may be GOP fucked up so bad they created a problem on purpose, but some of us have fairly decent elections.

    You want to fix things? Start with real IDENTITY THEFT solutions. It takes approx 2 years from breach to used identity (according to FBI) so plan now because recent breaches will start their impact then. If a foreign power is organized, they could bring down the nation with automated identity attacks. A crisis (the rate of theft now should be considered a crisis already) will need a solution and that is the time for a REAL solution to happen. Get prepared. LEARN.

    Identifiers like Social Security should be PUBLIC knowledge and actually do not need to change (an upgrade to an easy to remember alphanumeric code with a larger number space but shorter length would be nice... and harder to filter out with regex.) They should be assigned to everybody; even dead people. Makes history easier, genealogy, etc. Your name and birthday mostly do this already; a serial number is same but better... but try telling the 666 freaks that. (maybe using base 36 instead of a number would help? at least it's shorter.) No encryption. keep it simple. Hey, Babylonians used base 60, so it's still simple enough. Don't think your face scan from a low res photo won't ID you well enough to anybody in the near future. Having a public # code doesn't mean you have to advertise it like your face.

    Identity verification is a huge area which needs work. it MUST be

  69. I'm sick of this narrative by magzteel · · Score: 1

    We are inundated with political ads all the time. We don't always know who paid for them directly or indirectly or why.

    When Obama was running they accepted untraceable contributions and no doubt used them to run ads.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    Stop this stupidity already

    1. Re:I'm sick of this narrative by HermMunster · · Score: 1

      If you lie even unwittingly in your political ads you are using propaganda that is as bad as anything the Russians might have done. It is your absolute responsibility as the candidate to get it right without any extremism. If you don't correct it once you find out you are far more guilty than the Russians.

      $100k in purchased ads where $67,000 of it was spent after the election, and where the other $43,000 of it was spent neither on positive nor negative ads about either candidate demonstrates the mainstream media's willingness to collude to allow the politicians to blatantly lie to the public.

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  70. Did you login? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you login to facebook? Or otherwise interact, within 1 degree of separation, anything remotely affiliated with Mark Zuckerfuck?? Then YES, you interacted with Russian Propoganda.

  71. Better don't check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or the democratic thought police comes after you in case you found positive.

  72. FB != news by h8sg8s · · Score: 1

    Anyone using FB as a primary news outlet is obviously too dumb to vote. Sadly, there seem to be a lot of them..

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  73. Re: We get more "Russia" than Linux or programmi by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

    "Free" as in Linux, and "Free" as in socialism are two totally different versions of "free."

    If you think socialism is "free", try doing it with a tax rate of 0%.

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  74. Re:We ... didn't ... need ... any ... propaganda . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    horrifically and comically mishandled classified information.

    This speaks to a larger issue with Democrats in my estimation, one that has been growing and festering ever since the last of the conservative Democrats who were strong supporters of national defense in the first Cold War against the Soviets disappeared from the Democratic political scene. There used to be a name for these conservative defense hawk Democrats who existed in the 1980s and into the early 1990s, but it escapes me just this moment. The point is that Democrats, while paying lip service to military service and national defense, don't really understand or respect the details. You can see this lack of understanding and respect in several recent incidents:

    1. The mishandling of classified materials by Hillary Clinton and her subsequent reactions to both cover it up and when that failed to downplay the issue with feigned annoyance that it even came up. Her response and that of many other Democrats was "meh, big deal. It's not important". This is a slap in the face to the many Americans who labor in defense of our nation, understand the importance of keeping secrets and follow the rules for handling classified materials to the letter and without exception, both because they are loyal and out of professional pride.

    2. The Benghazi Incident and the "stand down" order. Again, the details here are murky and we may never know exactly what transpired because of the intense politics surrounding the incident and the actions taken in the aftermath. However, regardless of how you interpret the incident, it must be concluded that Hillary Clinton and by extension President Obama were at the very least incompetent in their handling of the incident. They lied about what happened, got caught in those lies and then reacted with "What difference does it make"? As if four Americans killed by terrorists was no big deal and we were all blowing it out of proportion.

    3. The sabotage of the Hezbollah drug smuggling and terrorism financing investigation by the Department of Justice under President Obama after years of work by the DEA, FBI and CIA to develop the picture of a complex international criminal network rivaling the largest and most sophisticated ever, identifying the key players and then building cases against the persons high up so that the operations could be shut down. Again President Obama ordered the people working tirelessly in defense of our nation to "stand down" because he wanted a foolish nuclear deal with the Iranians and knew that breaking up the Hezbollah smuggling network, which was funneling hundreds of millions of dollars to terrorists in Syria and elsewhere and had funded insurgents who killed Americans during the most recent Iraq War, would annoy Iran and end the deal. Again, Democrats look the other way while terrorists smuggle cocaine into the United States, which by the way hits minority communities hardest, to finance terrorism abroad and all for a stupid deal with the Iranians which ultimately will amount to nothing and in fact has encouraged Iran to be more assertive and begin taking over the Middle East. As bad as Iran Contra ever was, but this time on the Democrat side of the aisle.

  75. Russia Derangement Syndrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Russia Derangement Syndrome

  76. How do I tell if I interacted with JEWISH... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...propaganda, via the mainstream media? Oh wait... it's ALL Jewish propaganda, just like this bullshit article about 'Russian meddling' in the election...

  77. Israeli influence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The elephant in the room

  78. Old News November by goukaradi · · Score: 1

    Oh my slashdot where hast thou gone?
    November 22, 2017
    https://www.recode.net/2017/11...

  79. Golly! Russian propaganda is strong by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

    It's more effective than domestic propaganda, because it elected someone the mainstream media didn't want.

    I'm not sure I buy into that argument -- even assuming the Roooosians wanted Donald Trump, and made a serious attempt to propagandize their way to the outcome they wanted.

    If you're going to adopt that kind of reasoning, why not assume they propagandized for the primaries, too? That way, no matter who won -- Kang or Kodos -- they'd have one they liked.

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  80. *SIGH* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is such BS.

    Firstly, 140million "impressions" doesn't necessarily mean that's the same number of users, if you used both fb AND instagram you'll be counted twice.

    Secondly, they are providing absolute numbers without context and trying to use this to imply a nonsensical argument, viz:
    Russians are such masters of propoganda, with $100k of ad spend they could overpower $100 MILLION spent by the Clinton campaign. Lets accept this premise. Then the LEFT should be HAPPY, because we've just proven that Citizens United vs FEC is irrelevant. Corporations spending $100 Million cannot overpower $100k in spending (which grassroots could easily raise on gofundme).

    Thirdly, some of this so-called russian propoganda occurred AFTER the election (so how could it have influenced the election?)

    Fourthly, the statistic I saw showed of the 140 million impressions the 'Russian' ads made, were in context of a 3 TRILLION impressions total in that timeframe). Something on the order of 1 in 23,000. So the implication is, you've seen 23,000 pieces of ads on facebook, and of those 23,000, ONE influenced you to vote for Trump. That if fucking amazing. Now if only I could put 1 letter in this post and it will influence EVERYONE on slashdot to send me money.

  81. Re:We ... didn't ... need ... any ... propaganda . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Iran and Hezbollah have been rescuing Syria from terrorists not the other way around. If you don't like the outcome guess what that's the US proxy war against Syria backfiring. You tried to make it into yet another Libya/Somalia/whatever, you lost, get over it. I will have no trouble if you blame it on Obama and democrats though.
    Earlier, it was W. Bush and his band of incompetent jackals who put Iran's influence on the rise.

    End result, looks like we're seeing a broad alliance of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Russia and perhaps up to Turkey and Qatar, with China in the background ; while the camp of US, Saudi/UAE and Sunni terrorists is discredited. Israel just gets more grotesque - I don't mind that country much. They "won" but their victory is absurd, they're 1980s South Africa now.

  82. Made me laugh by HermMunster · · Score: 1

    The conspiracy has become accepted as fact. When I see this sort of thing I giggle some. The idea that we were affected and that we are worried about it enough to actually look up whether it affected us is so hilarious. That someone would or could think of making tool is sort of frightening and comedic at the same time.

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  83. Re:Golly! Russian propaganda is strong by HermMunster · · Score: 1

    Mainstream media didn't want. We the people on the other hand are far more difficult to assess. He's there obviously because the people wanted him. I'm sure promises of draining the swamp is a big factor.

    But what the mainstream media wants is irrelevant.

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  84. Re:Golly! Russian propaganda is strong by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

    Golly! It looks like my sarcasm indicator -- Golly! -- didn't work this time.

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