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How To Check If You Interacted With Russian Propaganda On Facebook During the 2016 Election (recode.net)

Facebook has rolled out a new tool to help some users figure out if they interacted with Russian propaganda during the 2016 U.S. presidential election. "The social giant's tool -- available here, through its Help Center -- specifically allows users to see if they followed or 'Liked' any pages and accounts set up by Kremlin-backed trolls on either Facebook or Instagram," reports Recode. From the report: Over the course of the 2016 election, Facebook estimates that roughly 140 million users may have seen Russian propaganda in their News Feeds or on Instagram. Much of that content sought to sow social and political unrest around divisive issues like race, religion and LGBT rights. But only a small slice of those 140 million affected users can actually take advantage of Facebook's new tool, which it first previewed in November. That's because the portal only aids those who directly followed one of the accounts or pages set up by Russian sources on Instagram and Facebook. It does not help users who may have simply seen Kremlin-sponsored content because their friends "Liked" it and it subsequently appeared in their own News Feeds. Facebook's new service also doesn't allow users to check if they saw some of the roughly 3,000 election-timed ads purchased by Russia's notorious trolls, known as the Internet Research Agency. About 10 million users saw those ads around the election, the company previously has said.

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  1. Need this for friends by profet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Would be lovely to see a list of posts shared/liked by friends to your timeline rather than just things you've clicked on.

    1. Re:Need this for friends by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Simple rule of thumb: If you know that Hillary colluded with the DNC to sabotage Bernie's campaign, then, directly or indirectly, you were exposed to Russian propaganda.

      The dastardly Russians used a sneaky and underhanded technique called "telling the truth".

    2. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's truly weird how over a year after President Trump won the election, and nearly a year since he assumed power, the left is still oblivious as to why they lost the election. They keep blaming 'Russians' and 'Nazis' and whoever else they can scapegoat. Yet they never look at themselves! They lost because they ran a candidate who was widely disliked. They lost because they didn't have a positive and encouraging vision like the one that President Trump presented to the nation. They lost because they tried to use identity politics to divide the electorate, instead of uniting all Americans like President Trump did. They lost because of themselves and their own actions. Yet they refuse to understand and admit this, and instead blame literally everyone and everything else for their total failure. It's truly weird!

    3. Re:Need this for friends by easyTree · · Score: 5, Funny

      The dastardly Russians used a sneaky and underhanded technique called "telling the truth"

      There's no precedent for it and it's not wanted. This red threat will be stamped out.

    4. Re:Need this for friends by sycodon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When are they going to release a tool that lets you see if you have been exposed to domestic propaganda?

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    5. Re: Need this for friends by fred911 · · Score: 1

      That's has to be the most insightful, intelligent and non-partisan comment I've seen in the past two years. If the media, and both parties could understand 10% of the signifigance, we'd all be much better off.

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    6. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well either women were rising up and saying "it's time for a female president" or they weren't. And it looks like they weren't.

    7. Re: Need this for friends by interkin3tic · · Score: 1, Troll
      I'm aware you're half trolling but there are enough delusional slashdotters here who have trouble distinguishing reality from fiction coming from the government ruling party.

      They lost because they ran a candidate who was widely disliked.

      Trump was more disliked.

      They lost because they didn't have a positive and encouraging vision like the one that President Trump presented to the nation.

      Hillary presented her vision in sane, reasoned tones and was utterly ignored by the media as it wasn't zany enough. Trump rallies were marked by threatening journalists and yelling at enemies.

      They lost because they tried to use identity politics to divide the electorate, instead of uniting all Americans like President Trump did.

      Trump pandered exclusively to whites.

      They lost because of themselves and their own actions

      HRC got 3 million more votes than Trump. Factually, she lost because we don't live in a democracy.

    8. Re: Need this for friends by hidflect · · Score: 1

      Move along, folks. Nothing to learn or discover here. There'll always be another election and we can address any issues on voting day...

    9. Re: Need this for friends by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Informative

      Both sides ran unpopular candidates. It's not like Trump had mass market appeal either, and in fact he lost the popular vote.

      What screwed the Democrats was playing defence. They tried to defend Clinton, but Trump and the far right never do that. They always attack.

      When someone points out a lie, they turn it around by accusing them of being fake news or attacking someone else unrelated (what-about-ism). They make it about someone else, look like the are winning.

      This is a great example from today: https://www.theguardian.com/wo...

      That's how you make an unpopular candidate win.

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    10. Re: Need this for friends by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Vladimir Putin groped me while we were riding the public bus! I think he used microaggressions, too!!

    11. Re: Need this for friends by hidflect · · Score: 1

      They're not oblivious. Pelosi, Schumer, Booker, et. al. know perfectly why they lost but to admit the truth would mean shining a spotlight on their donor base. You think they want to bring the unwashed masses of the Millenials into their party? How would they justify taking all that AIPAC, PhRMA, MIC, etc. money? Pelosi herself said they don't need change. They're doing very nicely as the well-paid cock-blockers of the Left that people actually want.

    12. Re: Need this for friends by Kant_resistor · · Score: 1

      Well, at least one thing you wrote was true: we Americans do not live in a democracy. We never have, of course. But if you think that electing a single human being to direct the entire armed might of 350 million people, and to carry out the spending of 20-25% of their collective economic effort, in a single election, as a choice among two individuals selected by what are self-described private groups and in no way representative of the people, could somehow be turned into "democracy" by changing the electoral college as an institution, or even eliminating it, then you have been failed by your education as a citizen. That does not surprise me, because the number of people who actually understand anything about political institutions is, maybe, a few tens of thousands, at most. Democracy does not have to do with voting in an election every four years. It is a system of government where the people--all of the qualified citizens, usually qualified by property and education and armed service--meet in an assembly to make decisions, pass laws, and conduct trials as massed jurors. That is democracy. Nothing that is done in modern governments has anything--anything--to do with democracy.

    13. Re: Need this for friends by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      Is a straw man argument still a straw man argument if it's a gigantic run on, nonsense sentence?

    14. Re: Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm a Latino and I proudly voted for Trump.

      He never pandered to whites. He pandered to anyone who loves this country, works hard, and doesn't want to be on the Democratic welfare plantation.

      And fuck you for pretending I don't exist. It's a big reason why I voted for him. Tired of you smug, condescending liberals talking for me.. And so were about 30% of people like me.

    15. Re:Need this for friends by MatthiasF · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      A few real facts to dispute your fake news, Bernie Sanders isn't a member of the DNC, he's an Independent. The fake news you're referring to was contrived by a failed political boss (Donna Brazile) who wrote a book and spewed hate at Clinton to try to get the book sold (knowing people like you would eat it up). Brazile is the same woman who passed a question to Clinton before a town hall, so her calling anything unethical (her words for the campaign spending agreement she uses as proof of collusion) is pretty hypocritical.

      The campaign agreement mentioned let Clinton help the DNC pay off it's debts while Sanders offered little more than the bare minimum. He and his campaign openly admit to ignoring the campaign agreement they made with the party for it's support, again because he's an Independent and only used the DNC for it's data systems and such.

      But go ahead and repeat the fake news propped up by the Russian propaganda you seem to support.

    16. Re:Need this for friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That article is from May 2016, well before the full extent of Hillary's control of the DNC and their combined efforts to sabotage Bernie's campaign became public.

    17. Re:Need this for friends by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      She also colluded with the majority of the democratic primary voters.

      Cheating doesn't become "OK" just because in the end it turned out she would have won anyway.

      Do you know who else would have won anyway? Richard Nixon. So should we have given him a pass on Watergate?

    18. Re: Need this for friends by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You know what's funny though? Ask yourself where the democrats are today. No really, ask yourself. Hell ask people on the street. What's their platform? What are they doing? Who are the fresh faces? What's the party leadership? What are they doing for average people? What is their tax plan? What's their healthcare plan? What do they want to do with any other issue ranging from jobs, to border, to really anything.

      There's nothing. Nobody knows, because the democrats don't know. They're still screeching "im peach FOTYA-FAVIE!" like it's going out of style, while yelling that the family with a combined income of $50k/year are going to die because they no longer have to pay $6k/year for insurance with a $10k/deductible or be penalized $3500-9k for not paying that outrageous price in the first place.

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    19. Re: Need this for friends by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Both sides ran unpopular candidates. It's not like Trump had mass market appeal either, and in fact he lost the popular vote.

      What screwed the Democrats was playing defence. They tried to defend Clinton, but Trump and the far right never do that. They always attack.

      The popular vote means squat in US elections, so that doesn't matter. The democrats weren't playing defense, the democrats believed they had it in the bag. They believed the polls, they thought that she wouldn't need to head to the rust belt or some fly-over country state. The people in the party told her that.

      You know what Trump's attack was? Pointing out her failures, what was the democrats response? BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT, SHE'S FEMALE! And people looked left, and they looked right, and picked the person that wasn't playing identity politics, but pointing out serious flaws. It also helped that even when Trump made an ass out of himself, he rolled with his own mistakes. Self-depreciating humor is a selling point for a lot of people. I know that you really think that the "far right" is this gigantic great machine, but it's not. It's just that you're so far to the left that anyone to the right of Trotsky seems like they're right-wing.

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    20. Re: Need this for friends by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 2

      Oh crap! Now I have the image of Hillary bare-chested on horseback.

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    21. Re: Need this for friends by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The popular vote means squat in US elections, so that doesn't matter.

      The parent wasn't talking about an election, he was talking about how popular a person is.

    22. Re: Need this for friends by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      The parent wasn't talking about an election, he was talking about how popular a person is.

      Again that doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter in his home country which uses FPTP.

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    23. Re: Need this for friends by Whibla · · Score: 1

      What made me really laugh about that article was that, instead of simply apologising in the first instance, he then doubled down and insisted he'd never called it fake news.

      Do these clowns really believe that they're right as long as they always and only insist that everyone else is wrong?

      And why is making (and admitting) a mistake seen as such a bad thing anyway? They're the best learning experience we're ever going to get, and refusing to even acknowledge the mistake simply means we learned nothing from it and, therefore, will just continue to make the same mistakes again and again. That's not a trait I'd want to see in people I were appointing to positions of 'authority'.

    24. Re: Need this for friends by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Did you get dropped on your head as a child? It doesn't matter what electoral system is used when talking about the fact that Trump isn't the most popular.

      You're defending an argument no one is making or arguing against and all you're achieving is making others thing you were dropped on your head as a child.

    25. Re: Need this for friends by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      My view is so weak, that I've resorted to attacking the person and not the argument.

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    26. Re: Need this for friends by DogDude · · Score: 1

      Comrade, you are correct! Trump is a "uniter" and has a "positive and encouraging vision"!

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    27. Re:Need this for friends by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      Do you know who else would have won anyway? Richard Nixon. So should we have given him a pass on Watergate?

      ... I mean, we did? He did win the election, and Ford did pardon him...

      Cheating doesn't become "OK" just because in the end it turned out she would have won anyway.

      The claim floating around isn't just that she cheated, but that the cheating tipped the primary. The first part is feasible, the second part is not. I wasn't excusing any cheating, only pointing out that the wild-eyed claims that Bernie would have won the primary and then dominated the election are utter nonsense designed to divide and conquer.

    28. Re:Need this for friends by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      When so much advertising is pay per view, it's silly that the statistics still only count clicks.

    29. Re: Need this for friends by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      There will be another election. Why do you want an election system dominated by foreign interests?

    30. Re: Need this for friends by acrimonious+howard · · Score: 1

      instead of uniting all Americans like President Trump did.

      Wow, this is so rich, it's... well, actually kind of boring at this point. But just for grins, let's see if I can find a few times Trump tried to unite people:
      Women: "Blood coming from Megyn Kelly's whatever", "I just grab em by the p***y"
      Mexicans are "rapists", incapable of being Judges.
      Iowans: "How stupid are the people of Iowa?"
      Bush supporters: Too many quotes to list
      Cruz supporters: 'Ted's father killed JFK'
      Muslims should be banned (reminder there's over 3 million Muslim American citizens)
      Vets, anyone brave enough to actually be drafted and run the risk of capture. "I [only like soldiers] who weren’t captured"
      All targets of the KKK: Some KKK are "very fine people"
      All targets of racism: Some racists are "very fine people"
      God the list could go on for ever. Lately, it's a message to anyone opposed to pedophilia: "Vote for Moore".
      I guess the argument could be made that he's offended everyone except white male racist terrorist pedophiles. So we should technically all be united. Ya, he needs to offend that group, then the statement will actually be true.


      FYI I'm reposting since I didn't realize I wasn't logged in.

    31. Re: Need this for friends by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      They lost because they ran a candidate who was widely disliked.

      More than Trump? Give me a break. And Ivan, you are glossing over a host of other dirty tricks, such as widespread and methodical Republican gerrymandering.

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    32. Re: Need this for friends by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      we Americans do not live in a democracy. We never have, of course.

      You are an idiot.

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  2. I didn't use Facebook or Instagram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So I'm safe. Unlike the rest of you dweebs.

  3. HA! HA! HA! Told you so!!! by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Joe McCarthy was right!!!!!!

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  4. What about the others. by labnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While they are at it, can they show me NSA, CIA, FBI, Plus every other propaganda agency of every other government. Why just single out the Russians.

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    1. Re:What about the others. by techno_dan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree. I want to know about all propaganda, not just Russian. I feel that most of the propaganda is from the U.S.

    2. Re:What about the others. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The NSA, CIA, FBI domestic good news is now legal with changes to the Smith–Mundt Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...–Mundt_Act
      Domestic US propaganda like this is now legal and well funded.

      Thanks to the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act expect a daily flow of fake news from the best minds in the USA.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    3. Re:What about the others. by quenda · · Score: 1

      While they are at it, can they show me NSA, CIA, FBI,

      Nah, this is about foreign interference in US elections, not US interference in foreign elections.
      Let other countries like Ukraine worry about CIA interference.

    4. Re:What about the others. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why just single out the Russians.

      Russia has by far the largest propaganda team that is focused on affairs of foreign nations (China only gives a damn about China related stuff). Additionally, the effect (if not also the intent) of their propaganda is causing civil unrest. This is why Russia is being singled out.

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    5. Re:What about the others. by pots · · Score: 1

      The parent may be trolling, but I am totally on board with that idea. Maybe they should start with the Russians, but in the long term greater transparency in advertising (and elsewhere) can only be a good thing. After all, while it may be primarily the Russians right now there's no reason to believe that this will always be the case.

    6. Re:What about the others. by cold+fjord · · Score: 1

      While they are at it, can they show me NSA, CIA, FBI, Plus every other propaganda agency of every other government. Why just single out the Russians.

      It may take some time, but the role that at least some of them played (if any) will come out.

      House Republicans quietly investigate perceived corruption at DOJ, FBI

      Paul Calls For Investigation of Obama Officials: Collusion Against Trump Could Be 'Worse Than Watergate'

      After it comes out there may be people going to jail ... and it probably won't be Trump's associates.

      Indeed, more interesting things keep emerging with time . . .

      The secret backstory of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook

      While we're waiting for all of the unpleasantness to be revealed perhaps you'd like to listen to some Maurice Chevalier, Édith Piaf , or Vera Lynn ?

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    7. Re:What about the others. by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      RE China, they also have little need to disrupt the rest of the world in order to continue gaining power. Economically, militarily, and geo-politically, they've been gaining ground since before the right wing of the US started fighting with the rest of the US. Russia is the world power whose only chance for gaining power is the rest of us voluntarily losing it through insanity. They have a declining population, an aging military, and an economy that is almost entirely oil.

    8. Re: What about the others. by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Are your sure it's not domestic propaganda that's causing civil unrest?

    9. Re:What about the others. by Nexion · · Score: 1

      You stress Russia as a propaganda source and contrast it against China who seems self involved. I find it humorous that our people, as someone in the US, complains about "Russian interference" while living in a country that absolutely spent decades interfering with other countries. The history of attempts to kill Castro are a great source of humor, but you would have to be blind to think we don't do the same thing to other countries as has been alleged of Russia. After all, we can't really prove any of this. I can't prove US manipulation of other countries. Well, beyond the declassified. Attempts to overthrow governments, manipulation of their people and black ops designed to change the shape of the world are just par for the course.

      Still... it is no surprise to me that the governments of this world are playing a sick game playing fast and loose with the truth. I think we need to keep in mind that old saying that we should believe none of what we hear and only half of what we see.

    10. Re:What about the others. by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      Excellent use of whataboutism here! Keep up the good work, comrade! #MAGA

      Personally I don't believe in the general proposition foreign interests should be banned from attempting to exert political influence.

      There is some outlier behavior on the part of Russia + Trump that deserves special attention.

      1. Russia seems to have successfully captured a sitting US president.
      2. Active hax0r attacks conducted in furtherance of their influence goals broke US law.

      Yet Russian Facebook propaganda activity by itself had little or nothing to do with either of the above. Why should I care?

    11. Re: What about the others. by nyri · · Score: 1

      Yeah, no. You wrong. Largest foreign PR operation in US is Israel. Funny thing, it is so successful that US is basically paying it.

      This Russian thing. It is basically DNC PR operation.

    12. Re: What about the others. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Fox News certainly isn't helping matters but their purpose is to get ratings, not civil unrest.

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  5. No tool necessary by RyoShin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Answer this simple quiz to know if you've encountered Russian Propoganda:
    1) Have you ever been on the internet?

    If you answered "yes", then congratulations!? You've encountered Russian Propaganda. And American Propaganda. And probably Botswana Propaganda. Maybe some Klingon stuff, too.

    I guess if you want to know if you interacted instead of just encountered you'll have to use that tool, and another for Twitter, and another for Tumblr, and another for LiveJournal[1], etc. I'm not trying to dismiss Russian interference (it's not good, and no, neither is American interference in foreign elections), but propaganda without direct interactions (such as, say, talking to certain members of a certain transition team for a certain President-Elect) has been blown out of proportion for their effect. With or without that interference, >40% of American voters didn't vote (or were blocked from voting), and about ~50% of those who did are idiots[2].

    [1] Yes I know LiveJournal is owned by a Russian company.
    [2] I leave it to the reader apply this assessment to whichever tribe they don't belong to.

    1. Re:No tool necessary by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      I think you're right... there is some foreign propaganda, but how much influence has it really had on recent elections? It's interesting how loudly people decry Russian interference in our affairs, yet don't seem to want to know how far that influence extends.

      Maybe because the Russians are a convenient scapegoat for whatever is wrong with politics. Or they are a great excuse to curb free speech: our minister of the interior is adamant that 'something' needs to be done to combat trolls, by which she means not just the Russian ones but any troll spreading 'fake news'. She cites Russian influence in our own country but when pressed for examples could name only one single (and insignificant) website... When people - even the ones who should know better - talk about fake news, often as not they seem to mean "stuff we don't want to hear"

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    2. Re:No tool necessary by fatwilbur · · Score: 1

      If simply placing the wrong ideas in front of people causes society to fall apart, then we have already lost. The only way we can possibly be sustainable as a society is when most people can look at any idea, any idea or words possible, and rightly decide what is rubbish and what is a reasonable idea. Thus, education and exposing people to all words and concepts is the only possible way forward.

      Those who say that certain ideas are dangerous and want to prevent people from seeing them are the ones to be truly worried about, because what they really wish for is that you do not apply the same rational thinking to their ideas, and rightly decide they are rubbish. They just want to be the ones in control of your thoughts.

  6. Re:As a Republican, I see this as a net positive. by arbiter1 · · Score: 1

    Since its a tool rolled out by facebook yea i wouldn't trust it completely. Wouldn't shock me if it was bit leaning in democrat's favor in things.

  7. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by Shogun37 · · Score: 1

    I'm not looking to start a flame war, but how does showing an id before one is allowed to vote racist?

  8. I don't need to by Berkyjay · · Score: 1

    Because I don't argue with random strangers on Facebook, nor do I allow anyone but my connected friends comment or even see my posts. If you let this shit be public then you're an idiot and deserve to be trolled.

  9. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by Zombie+Ryushu · · Score: 2

    Its not the fact that ID was required to be shown. It was the fact that certain ID Types were Permitted. Texas was the most Severe and Egregious example. They permitted you to use Driver's Licenses, and Gun Permits, but not State ID cards (which are the same thing as a Driver's Licence, but say they are for ID only, typically people with disabilities have them, and you can even buy Alcohol with them, or Student ID cards issued from Universities.)

  10. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Having a candidate who could give speeches in more states that people actually wanted to listen to helps win elections.
    Listening to people all over the USA rather than lecturing them might also help win elections given the need to win in different states all over the USA.
    Been able to talk to people not down to them might be something a candidate could try too.
    Thats all internal party skills. For one party to understand and another party to try next election.
    Find a person more people all around the USA actually like.
    Staying near the elite coast and giving short statements to the media won't win an election.

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  11. Linked page was just a press release by Walking+The+Walk · · Score: 2

    There's no tool at the linked page, or at least not displayed to me. Just a video and some bullet points saying that FB takes security seriously, will be removing fake accounts, and provided 3k ads to Congress. I'm in Canada and logged in to Facebook from a Canadian IP address, is this tool only being displayed to people who visit from an IP address geo-located to the USA?

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    1. Re:Linked page was just a press release by petes_PoV · · Score: 2
      Same here. Maybe the tool is only available to those who *did* see, like or write russian propaganda.

      Or maybe the whole thing is just someone else's propaganda?

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  12. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by Shogun37 · · Score: 1

    Student IDs,I could see not taking. Too easy to fake. Thanks for the answer.

  13. Easy self-test by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    How to tell if you've interacted with, and likely been indoctrinated by, Russian propaganda: If you're still reading this then it means you care whether you have, so you haven't. If you don't care whether you did, then you did.

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  14. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by Jack9 · · Score: 1

    > 1. Mass White Supremacist Blowback from 8 years of having a black President.

    I still don't think that demographic matters. Obama got re-elected, so they only get mobilized after 8 years? Absurd.

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  15. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    Texas has been offering FREE voter ID cards since 2013. You're flat out wrong here. I get the whole student ID thing, because it does not necessarily prove you are a resident of Texas; for example, my wife is a student of SNHU and she has a student ID card - but we live, full time, in California and have never been to New Hampshire.

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  16. u.s also Re:Linked page was just a press release by Invisible+Now · · Score: 1

    us IP address and all I saw was fluff, no tool.

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  17. Here is a much easier way to check.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Never went to Facebook. Never read the articles. Never pretended they were news.

    I'm good.

  18. Re: We get more "Russia" than Linux or programmi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is programmed and improved by anyone, and it is often given away for free. Sounds like socialism to me.

  19. We ... didn't ... need ... any ... propaganda ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... when will you get it?

    Hillary Clinton was unlikable, had nothing positive going for her, was a terrible campaigner, and oh yeah, both horrifically and comically mishandled classified information. And that's just for starters.

    All that was real, no Russian anything needed. You lost because you sucked.

    But please, keep deluding yourselves. It can only make your next loss more likely.

  20. Ironic by Fragholio · · Score: 1

    Wow...filter out all of the Anonymous Coward "propaganda" here and the comments section starts to look like an actual discussion of sorts.

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  21. Don't use Facebook? Not getting Russian propaganda by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
    Well, not from that source anyway. Whether my wife whispers Russian propaganda into my ear as I sleep is a bit harder to be sure about. Then again, since she has chosen (for the time being) to live in the West, she's not got a lot of reason to propagandise.

    Unless we move back.

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  22. easy by gravewax · · Score: 1

    look in the mirror, are you a retard that uses sites like facebook for your news? if so you probably should have your right to vote removed for the safety of others.

  23. Re: Now do the same for Correct The Record by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

    From their website: "Priorities USA is a voter-centric progressive advocacy organization and service center for the grassroots progressive movement."

    Any time you see an organization self-describe as "grassroots", you know they are funded by oligarchs and advocate policies that are harmful to working people.

  24. Re: As a Republican, I see this as a net positive. by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

    Facebook always lies.

    Time for antitrust action against FB?

  25. Not weird at all by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    It's truly weird how over a year after President Trump won the election, and nearly a year since he assumed power, the left is still oblivious as to why they lost the election.

    It's not weird at all.

    They need to justify ever more mechanisms for throttling molding the information that people see. Even though the mainstream media gave her a lopsided boost, even though the DNC sacrificed their down-ballot elections to get her elected *and* cheated in the run up to the election, even though Facebook and Twitter and Google were banning people, deleting accounts, and reading peoples' documents, despite an army of "correct the record" trolls... despite all that, she still lost.

    They're putting in place the very mechanisms that will give them more control over the future narrative.

    Their propaganda machine wasn't powerful enough, they're fixing it so that it'll be more powerful next time.

    1. Re:Not weird at all by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Their propaganda machine wasn't powerful enough, they're fixing it so that it'll be more powerful next time.

      I don't think their propaganda machine could have been more powerful then it was. It was more to the fact that they turned voters off to them by their actions more then anything. Hell you can dig through the DNC email leaks and so on and find out just how much they blew on corrupting /r/politics and /r/worldnews, and it still didn't work out for them. If anything, these actions that they're employing are working in a negative fashion. I'm going to point to Canada, where the federal Liberal Party and the Liberal Party of Ontario have tried to use the same methods, and employ the same methods. It's fundamentally backfiring and it's tanking both parties. Currently Trudeau Jr., is trying to cover-up that he broke ethics rules, and accepted bribes. The more they hand wave, the harder people look and it turns more people to other parties. People who were centre-right are hard-pushing towards the CPC, long-time party members are bailing for anyone else as well.

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  26. Oh sure... by Nexion · · Score: 1

    Let me just log into uber creeper website that TOTALLY deserves our trust as an authority on the "truth".

  27. Um... because they're a hostile foreign power by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    that successfully interfered in our elections and achieved all of their ends? Maybe you agree with the Russians that Trump should be president. But it still would have been nice for America to be able to decide it's president on our own.

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  28. AIPAC propoganda by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    Got it, now where do I go to see if I've interacted with Israeli propaganda?

    How do I report my local politician for having failed to sufficiently express their undying admiration of Israel?

  29. You are mentally ill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you actually think Russian influence caused Hillary to lose rather than Hillary herself.

    1. Re:You are mentally ill by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      No. Do you think Hillary's failings negates foreign influence over US elections?

    2. Re: You are mentally ill by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      So, that the Russians did interfere, but it didn't change the results, means that there is no problem with foreign influence over elections, and no steps should be taken to prevent it from happening in an election where it did change the results.

      The excuses for Treason are insane.

    3. Re: You are mentally ill by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      The problem started with Truman in '45 splitting Korea and giving half to the Russians as an enticement for the Russians to enter the ground war in Asia. Then continued with Eisenhower invading Vietnam to disrupt democratic elections, fearing an election of a Socialist. After WWII, the Americans were all in everyone's business. Calling out Hillary for overthrowing who? Just makes you look like a partisan hack. The CIA doesn't report to the Secretary of State, anyway.

  30. Wikileaks releases true info; gets blamed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wow, that sketchy Julian Assange. How underhanded of him to release undoctored, truthful third party content!

  31. Here is how I checked it by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    #!/bin/ksh
    while true
    do
              print " I really don't care "
    done

  32. Re: As a Republican, I see this as a net positive. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

    Seems it's past time for that. At least Russian trolls have to work in the open. I'm much more worried about the amount of unseen influence FB, Google and Twitter can exert on public opinion simply by manipulating ranking in search results and timelines.

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  33. Re:Russia Could not Steal the election. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

    After those 8 years, it seems people were not so much pissed at Obama but rather somewhat desillusioned. The crap economy didn't help (even if that wasn't exactly the president's fault). So people were ready for change, especially in getting some new blood and new politics into the White House. The Democrats proffered a candidate who for many people was the very embodiment of old, inbred and elitist politics. The Republicans had their bull in a china shop. In a country looking for a new broom, this was a choice between the devil you know and the devil you don't know.

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  34. New low for Slashdot? by shanen · · Score: 1

    (1) The link does not link to the described tool. None of the comments I looked at said this, which indicates that NONE of the comments were from people who had made that much effort to know what they were commenting about.

    (2) No mention of "Dark Money" or other explanations of how the elections of America have been rigged and gamed. That was a broader search beyond checking all the so-called insightful comments.

    (3) No funny comments.

    (4) Lots of trollage including bogus moderation. Doesn't really matter who's paying for it.

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  35. How I know by Jbcarpen · · Score: 1

    I didn't interact with facebook at all during the election. I have it listed as an untrusted domain.

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  36. LOL! by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

    I'm not on facebook! I'm smarter than that.

  37. VOTER ID = anti-democratic. period. by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    All we have is YEARS of propaganda-- Bush had 8 years and investigated the whole time and for 6 years having more GOP controlled government ever. Found NOTHING. They only proposed solutions to problems they NEVER proved existed.

    I've heard GOP strategist admit higher voter turn out kills them; they pray for rain and snow on election day. THE GOP FIGHTS EVERY ATTEMPT TO PROMOTE DEMOCRACY. Multiple days to vote? oppose it. Holiday to vote? oppose it. Easy process to vote? oppose it. They only sometimes allow something in specific situations where it is publicly known to help them (meaning it's so strong you can easily find why.)

    Why don't we FIX social security numbers and most the Identity Theft problems in the USA (when other nations have already?) It's the GOP. seriously. A working Identifier system and Verification system would inevitably be used for voting. That is how much the GOP wants voting broken.

    DRIVERS LICENSE / State ID. Yes, there are some illegals with them. There are SIMPLE solutions to that problem; but we are not even allowed to hear those without being drowned out with GOP propaganda. I've seen it 1st hand being involved in such issues lobbying and volunteering.

    VOTER IDs are a SCAM... a HACK of the system. SIMPLE IS HARD TO HACK-- voter IDs are complex nightmares on purpose. No, they can't be done simple... the devil is in the details and even if you have perfect details; some corruption WILL happen to put in loopholes later! Which again is why it must be DEAD SIMPLE. Voter IDs are never simple!

    Criminals are citizens and their alienable right to vote exists even if we stupidly infringe upon that right. it is NOT a privilege! When you take away voting rights of minorities (criminals) your actions prove you treat it as a privilege, not a right. Even more stupid is how many are in jail and when their "debt" is payed they still can't vote. You judge a society by how it treats the lowly. Criminals are a common excuse for many undemocratic laws. Illegals are a big one too. SIMPLE IS HARD TO HACK. proving citizenship is harder; I'm for it... but voting comes 1st, residency 2nd, citizenship 3rd. if you really believe in democracy, you would have your priorities straight.

    Residency restrictions (double voting) is a bigger issue but it largely curbs illegals at the same time since they are similar problems.... devil is in the details. Yes, double voting is rare... but so are illegals. REMEMBER, it's been heavily investigated for decades by the same people claiming it is a problem. Now your state may be GOP fucked up so bad they created a problem on purpose, but some of us have fairly decent elections.

    You want to fix things? Start with real IDENTITY THEFT solutions. It takes approx 2 years from breach to used identity (according to FBI) so plan now because recent breaches will start their impact then. If a foreign power is organized, they could bring down the nation with automated identity attacks. A crisis (the rate of theft now should be considered a crisis already) will need a solution and that is the time for a REAL solution to happen. Get prepared. LEARN.

    Identifiers like Social Security should be PUBLIC knowledge and actually do not need to change (an upgrade to an easy to remember alphanumeric code with a larger number space but shorter length would be nice... and harder to filter out with regex.) They should be assigned to everybody; even dead people. Makes history easier, genealogy, etc. Your name and birthday mostly do this already; a serial number is same but better... but try telling the 666 freaks that. (maybe using base 36 instead of a number would help? at least it's shorter.) No encryption. keep it simple. Hey, Babylonians used base 60, so it's still simple enough. Don't think your face scan from a low res photo won't ID you well enough to anybody in the near future. Having a public # code doesn't mean you have to advertise it like your face.

    Identity verification is a huge area which needs work. it MUST be

  38. I'm sick of this narrative by magzteel · · Score: 1

    We are inundated with political ads all the time. We don't always know who paid for them directly or indirectly or why.

    When Obama was running they accepted untraceable contributions and no doubt used them to run ads.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    Stop this stupidity already

    1. Re:I'm sick of this narrative by HermMunster · · Score: 1

      If you lie even unwittingly in your political ads you are using propaganda that is as bad as anything the Russians might have done. It is your absolute responsibility as the candidate to get it right without any extremism. If you don't correct it once you find out you are far more guilty than the Russians.

      $100k in purchased ads where $67,000 of it was spent after the election, and where the other $43,000 of it was spent neither on positive nor negative ads about either candidate demonstrates the mainstream media's willingness to collude to allow the politicians to blatantly lie to the public.

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  39. FB != news by h8sg8s · · Score: 1

    Anyone using FB as a primary news outlet is obviously too dumb to vote. Sadly, there seem to be a lot of them..

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  40. Re: We get more "Russia" than Linux or programmi by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

    "Free" as in Linux, and "Free" as in socialism are two totally different versions of "free."

    If you think socialism is "free", try doing it with a tax rate of 0%.

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  41. Old News November by goukaradi · · Score: 1

    Oh my slashdot where hast thou gone?
    November 22, 2017
    https://www.recode.net/2017/11...

  42. Golly! Russian propaganda is strong by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

    It's more effective than domestic propaganda, because it elected someone the mainstream media didn't want.

    I'm not sure I buy into that argument -- even assuming the Roooosians wanted Donald Trump, and made a serious attempt to propagandize their way to the outcome they wanted.

    If you're going to adopt that kind of reasoning, why not assume they propagandized for the primaries, too? That way, no matter who won -- Kang or Kodos -- they'd have one they liked.

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  43. Made me laugh by HermMunster · · Score: 1

    The conspiracy has become accepted as fact. When I see this sort of thing I giggle some. The idea that we were affected and that we are worried about it enough to actually look up whether it affected us is so hilarious. That someone would or could think of making tool is sort of frightening and comedic at the same time.

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  44. Re:Golly! Russian propaganda is strong by HermMunster · · Score: 1

    Mainstream media didn't want. We the people on the other hand are far more difficult to assess. He's there obviously because the people wanted him. I'm sure promises of draining the swamp is a big factor.

    But what the mainstream media wants is irrelevant.

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  45. Re:Golly! Russian propaganda is strong by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

    Golly! It looks like my sarcasm indicator -- Golly! -- didn't work this time.

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