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The Lower Your Social Class, the 'Wiser' You Are, Suggests New Study (sciencemag.org)

Wisdom -- the ability to take the perspectives of others into account and aim for compromise -- comes much more naturally to those who grow up poor or working class, according to a new study by social psychologist Igor Grossman at the University of Waterloo in Canada and his colleagues. Science Magazine reports: To conduct the study, Grossmann and his graduate student Justin Brienza embarked on a two-part experiment. First, they asked 2145 people throughout the United States to take an online survey. Participants were asked to remember a recent conflict they had with someone, such as an argument with a spouse or a fight with a friend. They then answered 20 questions applicable to that or any conflict, including: "Did you ever consider a third-party perspective?" "How much did you try to understand the other person's viewpoint?" and "Did you consider that you might be wrong?" Grossmann and Brienza crunched the data and assigned the participants both a "wise reasoning" score based on the conflict answers and a "social class" score, then plotted the two scores against one another. They found that people with the lowest social class scores -- those with less income, less education, and more worries about money -- scored about twice as high on the wise reasoning scale as those in the highest social class. The income and education levels ranged from working class to upper middle class; neither the very wealthy nor the very poor were well represented in the study.

In the second part of the experiment, the duo recruited 200 people in and around Ann Arbor, Michigan, to take a standard IQ test and read three letters to the Dear Abby advice column. One letter, for example, asked about choosing sides in an argument between mutual friends. Each participant then discussed with an interviewer how they thought the situations outlined in the letters would play out. A panel of judges scored their responses according to various measures of wise reasoning. In the example above, thinking about how an outsider might view the conflict would earn points toward wisdom, whereas relying only on one's own perspective would not. As with the first part of the experiment, those in lower social classes consistently had higher wise-reasoning scores than those in higher social classes, the researchers reported today in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B. IQ scores, however, weren't associated one way or another with wise reasoning.

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  1. Easy peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Poor people are not spoiled rotten, nor are they accustomed to be able to make every problem "go away" by application of money. This gives them a whole lot more experience dealing with problems that involves having to deal with things and situations where you just can't in various ways brute force your way.

    Also, see "Cake, why don't they eat".

  2. Is this supposed to be some kind of consolation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By virtue of having been born on the wrong side of the tracks, I'm pretty much screwed. Stuck on a low level job I hate but hope it's still there next year. My Christmas presents are a pile of bills to pay. My best years have come and gone. I'd rather be a rich fool than a wise pauper.

  3. Re:Another "great" article by king+neckbeard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You are excluding the possibility that many successful people succeed because of their lack of empathy, not despite it.

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  4. Not wisdom by petes_PoV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wisdom -- the ability to take the perspectives of others into account

    What the author describes could be many things: diplomacy, empathy, humility even. But it is not wisdom. Though I can understand that people with less money (though that has little to do with "class" or entitlement - excpet possibly in the USA) will be forced to become more skilled in the art of compromise.

    Wisdom, as we all know, is not putting tomatoes in a fruit salad.

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    1. Re:Not wisdom by sg_oneill · · Score: 5, Interesting

      white working class went and voted for Donald Trump

      Despite the prevailing wisdom that its poor white hicks that vote for Republicans, the evidence is actually not like that. There's a lot of folks, small business owners, managers and the likes.

      I'm going to get my head bit off this, but hear me out. One of Karl Marx's best observations is that people are basically self-interested. That isnt unique to him, most economists prior and after agreeing with him on that. What his big insight is, however, is that people form ideologies to justify or self explain their relationship to capital, or more loosely, wealth. Rich people are attracted to ideologies like Libertarianism or neo-conservatism. Poorer folks are more likely to be attracted to more socialist or even communist in extreme cases, ideologies. Conservatism and its spiral eyed crazy distant-cousin Fascism are the ideologies of the middle class. Those who think they are better than the poor folk, dont want the poor folk costing them tax, but still ultimately are just working for the man themselves. You dont have to agree with marxism, to see he made a pretty good observation there.

      Racism , sociologists argue, formed as a sort of pact between the white working class and the ruling caste in society. We'll give you better pay, and we wont give any of your jobs to those black folks, if you promise not to do anything buck crazy like joining the Commies or voting out the rich guys. It provided a way to essentially tame that self-interested streak in the working class by giving them something to be resentful of that isnt their fat rich bosses. Now none of this is some grand conspiracy. Its an emergent phenomena of millions and millions of people acrting on what they believe is their own self interest.

      Trump though. I half suspect the 50% of the population where having a bit of a granddad moment with that one

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  5. Silly definition of wisdom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wisdom is compromise?

    The study is absurd at the outset because they have a ridiculous definition of wisdom.

    1. Re:Silly definition of wisdom by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The study is absurd at the outset because they have a ridiculous definition of wisdom.

      The methodology is silly as well. Rather than doing "surveys", they should have looked at hard data: Less educated and less affluent people have much higher rates of divorce and domestic violence. So it is unlikely that they are "better at compromising".

      People with college degrees are half as likely to divorce as those without.

    2. Re:Silly definition of wisdom by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Less educated and less affluent people have much higher rates of divorce and domestic violence. So it is unlikely that they are "better at compromising".

      But that's a scenario that's fraught with complications, isn't it? The character of compromises demanded from poor people differs from the kinds of compromises people with plenty of resources face. It's not about where to take vacation this year, it's food or medical care and which bills you can risk going past due on.

      I grew up in a quite poor neighborhood, and achieved middle class status through education. My family was better off than most, and I was fortunate enough to win a scholarship to a prestigious engineering school. So I know from personal experience the difference between how poor people live and how middle class people live. My wife, my kids, most of the people I know these days have no idea. They don't know any families where the kids don't have beds to sleep in.

      Let me tell you another thing about poor people you probably don't know. For the most part they work. Often a hell of a lot, although these days many of the jobs aren't 9-to-5. You've got to get work where and when you can, and some employers are canny about using computerized scheduling to keep employees below thresholds where mandated benefits kick in.

      One in four working class people spend 50% or more on their income on rent. This means you really need two incomes, and low status jobs don't come with perqs like mental health days. So no flexible schedules or after-school programs for your kids; you give them a key and hope for the best.

      It's stressful to deal with all that, and that stress breaks up families.

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  6. Re:My rich uncle died by Beeftopia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All the money my cousin got went up his nose and for lawyers to get him out of trouble.

    He's broke now.

    He's not an outlier. I see this time and time again, children of financially successful people get fucked up. Look at all the entertainment stars' kids who end up in rehab.

    It's a well-known phenomenon known as "Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 3 generations."

    "THE Chinese have a saying, “Fu bu guo san dai,” or “Wealth never survives three generations.” America has its own version of this saying: “From shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations.” As with most old proverbs, there is a grain of truth to this—and the new rich are searching for ways to avoid history's curse." -- The Economist (likely paywalled)