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The Majority of Americans Prefer To Be Greeted With 'Merry Christmas' Over 'Happy Holidays', a Poll Finds

"Merry Christmas" is the preferred greeting of a strong majority of Americans. A survey carried in conjunction by news outlet Axios and SurveyMonkey found that 65 percent of the participants wish to be greeted with "Merry Christmas," while 28% prefer "Happy Holidays."

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  1. Nobody gives a fuck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Conservative snowflakes need to be reminded of Jesus Christ, the Liberal activist? Too bad they don't seem to know anything about his teachings.

  2. Worst slashdot article ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Happy Holidays" was invented because 100% of Americans aren't Christian. But 65%? Congratulations! You just found a percentage of your sample audience that is Christian! Now you just have to ask yourself: Do you support tolerance of others?

    1. Re:Worst slashdot article ever? by HanzoSpam · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No.

      "Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society."
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    2. Re:Worst slashdot article ever? by GrumpySteen · · Score: 3, Insightful

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    3. Re: Worst slashdot article ever? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 3, Informative

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  3. Yes, but that's not the issue. by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Happy holidays is inclusive for everyone, and includes people who don't celebrate Christmas. Merry Christmas is fundamentally exclusionary. I'm Jewish, and I don't care much, but after living in Alabama for a while, I can see why people care. Let me tell a story that's relevant that occurred with a work colleague (who already knew I was Jewish based on earlier conversations) when I was in Alabama (this occurred about December 20th or so last year):

    Colleague: So are you going anywhere for Christmas break? Me: Well, for break, I'll be spending time with my family who is going to be in Puerto Rico, and my wife is going back to visit her family back North. Colleague: So you won't be together for Christmas? That's sad! Me: Well, the relevant winter holiday for Jews is Channukah, which isn't a big family holiday for us. The big family holidays are Passover and the Jewish New Year. Colleague: Oh ok, have a Merry Christmas, Me: You too, NAME.

    It was like he could not get in his head that someone didn't celebrate Christmas. Given that, it isn't at all surprising that some people find the repeated "Merry Christmas" really uncomfortable.

    1. Re: Yes, but that's not the issue. by tjansen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But isn't wishing a Merry Christmas like wishing someone to have a great weekend? It feels odd when someone says it even though you're going to work all weekend, but it's just a custom and well intentioned.

    2. Re: Yes, but that's not the issue. by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Pretty much every single thing in your statement is wrong. First of all, the US isn't a country based off of Christian law. Second, of all obeying the law has nothing to do what greetings people use during holiday seasons. Third, I'm more than happy to say "Merry Christmas" to people who are Christian. Moreover, I explicitly said that *I don't care* if someone says Merry Christmas to me. The entire point was that experiences like the one I had make me understand why people would be directly uncomfortable with it.

    3. Re:Yes, but that's not the issue. by iNaya · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't celebrate Christmas, and I don't give a damn if someone says "Merry Christmas" or anything else. I also don't care if people celebrate other religious holidays. It's not exclusionary - they're not excluding anyone. What kind of self-righteous dickhead does someone have to be to be offended by someone saying "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Channukah", or spreading their joy of a Hindu holiday or whatever. Who honestly gives a fuck?

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    4. Re: Yes, but that's not the issue. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's the merry part I object to. I am not a merry man!

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  4. Re:Preference vs. STRONG preference by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One can easily find behavior by people upset and angry over either version of this. The problem there is people engaging in violence in general over minor things. If you think that violent behavior is relegated to almost any single position on some issue, then you are probably wrong.

  5. Majority by Tailhook · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The majority of Americans aren't hate-filled malcontents that actively seek opportunities to be offended by nothing little holiday traditions. The majority of Americans know there is nothing in "Merry Christmas" that needs to be fixed and have low regard the shitheels that think there is.

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  6. Loathing by mentil · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The only reason 'happy holidays' exists is because of people who are triggered by hearing 'merry christmas'. Unless the poll records how many people HATE 'merry christmas', then it won't reveal why 'happy holidays' exists.

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  7. Happy Festivus by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Funny

    Welcome, newcomers. The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of grievances. I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you're gonna hear about it!

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  8. Bah... by Subm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Humbug!

  9. Greetings are from the greeter’s point of vi by Picodon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Frankly, I don’t see anything in that conversation showing that your colleague “could not get in his head that someome didn’t celebrate Christmas”. He heard you, and on his way out, merely wished you an enjoyable day on the day that he calls Christmas Day.

    Seasonal greetings are not a reference to you, your culture and your lifestyle. They are a reference to those of the person greeting you (and, typically, of the larger community around you).

    For example, on Thanksgiving day, people who were not born in America likely won’t care a bit. Does that mean that it’s not Thanksgiving Day for them? Don’t they have the day off like everyone else? Should we care that they aren’t going to celebrate it? We wish them a happy day, and that day is named Thanksgiving Day. So Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

    Same thing for Christmas and any other holiday that’s massively followed by the larger part of the population. There’s nothing oppressive about it, unless one chooses to feel oppressed by it. Conversely, there is something oppressive about telling people that they may not name traditions that their community has long been widely following.

    If a Jewish faithful said something like “Happy Hanukkah” to me, I would absolutely find it oppressive on my part to tell him that I feel harassed by it. Personally, I would find his greeting inclusive on his part. I’d feel that he was mostly expressing friendship, while sharing a bit of his faith and culture, in a welcoming way, without trying to force it on me: a greeting is not the same thing as proselytising!

  10. I prefer "Merry Newtonmas"! "Happy Halloween" also by ToTheStars · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sir Isaac Newton was definitely verifiably born on Dec 25, 1642. To be fair, that was under the Julian Calendar, which corresponds to Jan 4 on our calendar, but it's as good a reason for the season as any. (Well, after axial tilt, of course, and orbital eccentricity on certain planets.) Sometimes I get really mixed up and say "Happy Halloween" because, y'know, DEC 25 == OCT 31.

    Aside: even ca. 200 AD, people were mostly guessing when Jesus Christ was actually born. The Church picked the date December 25 to align with the Roman celebration of the winter solstice, even though the date was "probably" wrong (and in fact some Eastern churches celebrate Christmas on Dec 25 in non-Gregorian calendars, and they definitely can't all be right), because the point of Christmas is celebrating Jesus's birth (and life, teachings, and death/resurrection^H^H^H^H bad weekend), not getting the exact dates right.

  11. Re:Of course they are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The campaign, dubbed Project Cassandra, was launched in 2008

    Obama didn't become President until 2009.

    Funny how that article completely glosses over that fact. It's almost like the author might be biased.

  12. Re:No doubt by Known+Nutter · · Score: 3, Informative

    Most people prefer their own religion to the one of other people, especially if they're in the majority. It's called 'bigotry'.

    Sorry, but no.

    Preference does not require intolerance, but bigotry does.

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  13. Uh... no by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it mostly came out of government functions. Schools, court buildings, etc. People were 'triggered' because a lot of non Christians get kinda nervous about the cult-like atmosphere of the evangelicals, the fact that many of our closest allies are still theocracies and the thousands of years of recorded history of religion being used in conjuncture with government to oppress.

    Through a lot of hard fought battles America became a secular nation, there are those of us who want to keep it that way. And then there are those among us who do not.

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  14. Re:Preference vs. STRONG preference by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It depends on which side of the political spectrum you are in. Some people say Merry Christmas in a tone to say. Most of us are Christians so deal with it, vs just a friendly well wishing of the holidays.
    I tend to use Happy Holidays myself when dealing with people I don’t know. Not because I am trying to be PC or afraid they will be insulted for using a Christian holiday. But because I may not see this person for a few months so they will go then the holiday gauntlet thanks giving, Christmas and new years. And if they are celebrating some other holiday I hope they have a good time with it as well.
    If it is someone closer to me then I’ll use Merry Christmas just because I know they are celebrating Christmas and I’ll probably see them for other holidays.
    There is being PC then there is just being kind.

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  15. Re: Moron doesn't understand reality. by Type44Q · · Score: 3, Funny

    I would love to be greeted by a oral sex from every single 20 year old woman that weighs less than 150 lbs.

    Why so picky?

  16. Re:Preference vs. STRONG preference by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Christmas is the official Federal holiday; what other Federal holiday is there on or around December 25th?

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  17. Re:The US is a Christian nation by meglon · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The Declaration of Independence is not the reason this country exists, it was a declaration, mid-war, that the colonies would no longer submit to rule by the crown; that the relationship between colonies and crown were dissolved. It said nothing other than that about the future.

    ....as for religion....

    You should check out the Constitution where the only references to religion is:

    Article VI, subsection 3

    ....but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

    ...or the Bill of Rights....

    Amendment 1

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof....

    Both of those are explicit prohibitions on government from promoting any given religion over any other.

    Or check out the Treaty of Tripoli....

    Article 11

    As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.....

    The Treaty of Tripoli was signed 10 years after the Constitution, and was passed unanimously by congress. Over half of the members of congress at that time had also signed the Constitutional.

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  18. Re:Preference vs. STRONG preference by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Also, do you go around saying "Happy Columbus day"

    Why yes, I do. Also Veterans Day and others too.

  19. Re:Preference vs. STRONG preference by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe the constant begging and ringing of the damn bell caused that person to flip. I sure can sympathize.

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  20. Re:Preference vs. STRONG preference by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm an atheist. And to me the difference between a delusion and a religion is basically the amount of people who share the delusion. Look up the textbook definition of delusion an tell me with a straight face that if it wasn't for the explicit exemption of religions from the definition that it would not fully, 100% describe basically any religion out there.

    Still, if someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, I wish them the same. Not because or despite any religion but because I know how they mean it. It is a happy wish from someone who wishes you to be happy. And the very last thing I could think of in that moment is how offended I could possibly be because he assumes that I share his delusion.

    At some point you just have to understand what people mean when they say something and not assume the worst. This is one of the occasions when it would be wrong to do so.

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