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LAPD Is Not Using the Electric BMWs It Announced In 2016 (cbslocal.com)
mi shares a report from CBS Los Angeles: "In a 2016 well-choreographed press conference, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck got out of an electric BMW driven by Mayor Garcetti to tout the city's ambitious project [to provide electric cars for the department]," reports CBS Los Angeles. "The cost: $10.2 million, which includes charging stations." However, the cars have seen very little use. With the monthly lease payment of a little more than $418, one vehicle ends up costing taxpayers over $15 a mile to use. Some of the use they do get is improper too, alleges CBS Los Angeles, citing footage captured from several hidden cameras. "We followed someone after leaving the downtown police garage; they went to the drive-through at Yoshinoya," reports CBS. "On another day, someone drove from downtown LA to Loyola Marymount University in West LA, picked up someone who appeared to be a student, and went to lunch." The deputy chief is looking into what CBS found and says the cars are to be used for business only.
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Did anyone think they'd be anything but taxpayer-funded toys for thugs?
Stop the freaking presses!
Yes, electric BMWs are a wasteful boondoggle, but using one to get lunch doesn't even cause the police abuse meter to twitch.
If it was NYPD in the 1970s, they'd be using the cars to pimp out their own hookers to drug dealers...
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..and people wonder why big government gets a bad rap. What a waste.
According to TFA, the Department's employees explained their reluctance to use the environment-friendly vehicles by their low mileage:
Strange — though low in comparison with a gasoline- or (especially) diesel-powered car, the distance seems quite sufficient for a city's police car. Do they really ever need to exceed 50 miles in a day?
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Los Angeles is mostly full of trash no matter how you slice it and most times I'd rather be around the police than the citizens they have to babysits.. "HOLLYWOOD BRO! SMOKE WEED BRO! THATS GUCCI BRO!"
Lemme guess: You're posting this from your mom's basement in Alabama and you have never been to Los Angeles. NEXT!
In an eight-shift, yes a cop will drive a lot more than 50 miles.
Yes, electric BMWs are a wasteful boondoggle, but using one to get lunch doesn't even cause the police abuse meter to twitch.
It does if it costs taxpayers $15/mile to operate.
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It doesn't cost $15/mile to operate. The lease payment divided by the number of miles driven on average is $15/mile.
Misleading number. The ones that never leave the parking garage cost $/mile.
Doesn't change that it's yet another pile of cash flushed down the virtue-signaling toilet, but no need to dishonestly exaggerate.
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It doesn't cost $15/mile to operate. The lease payment divided by the number of miles driven on average is $15/mile.
Exactly. By adding to the total distance, driving to lunch pushed down the average dollar per mile cost, and likely actually saved the taxpayers money.
These journalists should learn how to do basic math, and stop pestering the police.
Obviously, driving down the lease cost per mile wouldn't actually change anything itself. However, given that they're already paying the lease on the electric cars.. any use of electric over gasoline would be a savings to the taxpayers.
But it DOES get much more Smugness per mile.
No comment.
the LAPD did this about a decade ago when they switched motorcycles from Harley Davidson to BMW. BMW insisted the sticker price was justified as it represented increased reliability and longevity. the LA Times however found in 2016 that BMW motorcycles actually required more frequent, and more expensive maintenance. But hey, if our local rich kids and celebrities can have BMW, then god damnit so can our cops.
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idiot, those cars should be used generally. For personal and for duty. Lease fewer and make their use mandatory. There's enough gas guzzlers already in use.
Electric cars are a good thing, use them.
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It does if it costs taxpayers $15/mile to operate.
Which it doesn't. So what's your point?
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Nope, you’re still plowing them every night, Chris.
>"one vehicle ends up costing taxpayers over $15 a mile to use."
What do they care? It is California. Money means nothing to them, which is why they have more debt than any other state and the worse credit rating of ANY state. But keep on pushing that "feel good" stuff... gotta spend, spend, spend, raise taxes to the highest in the nation and yet still spend, spend, spend some more.
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They can't take them on patrol just image the fear of running out of battery. "We been out for an hour and had to return to the station.", "Doughnuts or coffee?", "neither we can do 90 minutes between those, battery recharge."
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Yeah, but give them a BMW, and they start getting their lunch from fancy-pants foreign chains. Think of the devastating effect on Dunkin Donuts. That is improper.
" With the monthly lease payment of a little more than $418, one vehicle ends up costing taxpayers over $15 a mile to use."
Duh!
Well if they drive only 1 mile per month, it will even cost 418€ per mile.
It's only costing $15 per mile because they are not using them the rest of the time they aren't fetching lunch.
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I grew up in LA. There's a lot of pretentious smug assholes. Moving out of that shit hole was the best thing I ever did. Every time I have to go back, within about 2 hours LA has provided me a reminder of why I hated it there. You come in on the 15 and you drive through those hills. 10 minutes later and though you know you drove through them, you'll be damned if you can see them. Then you run into a traffic jam, it runs for 40 miles, but it's just because you're driving at the wrong time of the day. You see, the traffic jams only typically last from 3:00 AM to 2:55 AM, so long as you don't drive during those times you won't get stuck in traffic. Then after the long drive you check in to your hotel. You want to walk to a restaurant to get a bite, but you can't. You see, you're in hotel district, not restaurant district. That's located 10 miles away. And when you get there you get some waiter who's not really a waiter, they're an actor, they're just waiting for their big break. And they're above such things as serving your food, refilling your water, getting you a beer. And of course then when you get pissed off and leave they give you a dirty look because you only left them a 10% tip which you only left that much because you realize most of their income is from tips and you felt sorry for them, but their service wasn't worth a cent. And of course this is typically about the point that the ass hole in the Tesla comes up behind you at about 70 MPH on a 45, swerves in front of you cutting you off and then blows through a red light. Then you get back to the hotel, pay for parking (because why would parking be included in the hotel?) and as you walk in the door, you see the sign telling you that the hotel has been found to contain materials that cause cancer in the state of california, where now you're just thinking oh shit. I'm in california, is there any way to move this hotel out of california so it stops causing cancer. Seriously? Why are things that are perfectly safe else where in the world carcinogens in california? Then of course you'll overhear people complaining about the cost of electricity, and yet talking about how great it is that they're banning fossil fuels and nuclear. Then of course in the off chance that it rains they'll bitch about it, but then bemoan the price of water. I could go on, but I think this rant has gone on long enough.
By adding to the total distance, driving to lunch pushed down the average dollar per mile cost, and likely actually saved the taxpayers money.
I apologize if that's a joke, but I don't think that's how math works.
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it sounds like a solution looking for a problem, almost like someone didnt even consider what these cars would actually be used for. I know the article says administrative uses, but really any organization should be able to objectivly show how many miles are only administrative use.
The main reason that these cars seem to not be used is that the police officers who use them are in uniform and at a moments notice could be called to active use in policing, that means that they will need the full suite of tools and performance that a cruiser provides. To put an officer in one of these cars for administrative work means pulling them off of active duty essentially. Considering that most police officers are partially evaluated on number of cases worked, it sounds like someone was hit up by a bmw sales man and maybe offered a reason to ignore such an obvious flaw in the plan.
The original purpose of the expense was for the vehicles to be used as "get around" cars. From the 2016 article:
"'The i3s will be used in a "non-emergency"' capacity — in other words, you won't likely see them engaged in high-speed police chases, but rather for basic department transportation needs and community outreach."
So they're not going to be used for beats and thus won't have the massive amounts of miles as the Crown Victorias, Taurus, Chargers, or Explorers. Moreover, you have to compare the EV mileage logs against the mileage logs of the internal combustion engine get-around cars. Lastly, with 21 police stations within the LAPD, that's FIVE of these vehicles per station and that's even if they were evenly distributed and not just placed where you could most easily install the EVSEs. That's a lot. There's very little gettting-around needed daily for most staff, so don't expect these to be used constantly.
Lastly, there's the cost of installing the Level 2 chargers. For non-fleet chargers (ChargePoint point of sale stations), you're looking at $4k-$7k per piece of hardware depending on your bulk negotiating skills. Then there's the cost of trenching out power, installation, and (god forbid) new actual electrical infrastructure like a transformer. That adds up quick.
To me, it looks like someone thought this would be a great feather in the cap for the Department, but I don't see any malfeasance. Public departments with large fleets are facing *massive* pressure to switch to hybrid, plug-in hybrid, electric, and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. The public agencies really want to show their environmental sustainability (per public pressures) and the auto manufacturers know that only fleets can sufficiently bolster their alt-fuel divisions until the demand for those vehicles expand beyond the West Coast.
Let me guess. You're getting railed by your bear room mate from your LA apartment. Put down the rainbow hookah and step back to reality. NEXT!
You're an AC that seems to be up LA's arse. If there is anyone living in a basement, it's you with those Cali prices. Enjoy your waitress job, loser.
"The deputy chief is looking into what CBS found and says the cars are to be used for business only."
Wouldn't that require honest cops?
As I understand it, not supporting those and other characters was a deliberate choice. They were too lazy to work around potential abuse of them.