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Amazon Won't Say If It Hands Your Echo Data To the Government (zdnet.com)

Zack Whittaker reports via ZDNet of how Amazon still won't say whether or not it hands your Echo data to the government -- three years after the Echo was first released. From the report: Amazon has a transparency problem. Three years ago, the retail giant became the last major tech company to reveal how many subpoenas, search warrants, and court orders it received for customer data in a half-year period. While every other tech giant had regularly published its government request figures for years, spurred on by accusations of participation in government surveillance, Amazon had been largely forgotten. Eventually, people noticed and Amazon acquiesced. Since then, Amazon's business has expanded. By its quarterly revenue, it's no longer a retail company -- it's a cloud giant and a device maker. The company's flagship Echo, an "always listening" speaker, collects vast amounts of customer data that's openly up for grabs by the government. But Amazon's bi-annual transparency figures don't want you to know that. In fact, Amazon has been downright deceptive in how it presents the data, obfuscating the figures in its short, but contextless, twice-yearly reports. Not only does Amazon offer the barest minimum of information possible, the company has -- and continues -- to deliberately mislead its customers by actively refusing to clarify how many customers, and which customers, are affected by the data demands it receives.

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  1. Anyone... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Insightful

    anyone who puts an omnidirectional mic in their home, tied to big-pig corporate, should expect no privacy.

    Note: cell phones and even laptop mics aren't very omnidirectional. You can also use a cell or laptop with a movable mic cover.

    OTOH, the whole point of a smart speaker is to listen and snoop.

    1. Re:Anyone... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Note: cell phones and even laptop mics aren't very omnidirectional.

      I have participated in many conference calls around a cell phone sitting in the middle of the table. It works pretty well.

      A cellphone is a far bigger privacy hole, and you are just in denial because you have too much self esteem invested in feeling superior by not owning an Echo.

  2. Re:SHHHHH! by reboot246 · · Score: 3, Funny

    They can read my thoughts even through my tin foil hat? Wow!

    Good thing I don't own an Echo.
    Though I have thought about buying an Echo string trimmer . . . . may have to rethink that one.

  3. Answered by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know if they didn't they'd tell you. So of course you have your answer right there.

  4. Re:I can answer that question by reboot246 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if the Echo product page should say:
    Sold by the NSA, Fulfilled by Amazon

  5. Re:I can answer that question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Correct. Under the provisions of the PATRIOT Act the private corporation does not have a choice. All the government has to do is assert national security concerns.

    Anyone here remember Lavabit?

    Aside from that, anyone remember Quest? The one telco that refused to play patriotic 9/11-ball with the government and just hand everything over. What happened to them?

    For this and many other reasons you simply cannot trust any U.S. based company in this regard.

  6. Its just a voice print by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    connected to your shopping account and CC.
    The gov gets the math of every unique consumers voice.
    Its not spying as its not the content of a conversation and the consumer agreed so they could use the service. Just the math to find a person again for the ads.

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    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  7. Re:I can answer that question by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 4, Informative

    China just wants your money, not to punish you for voting the wrong way or supporting the wrong people.

    While they do want your money, China very much persecutes others. For example if you're a Falun Gong member, or a Christian.

    Citations:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... https://www.opendoorsusa.org/c...

  8. Won't say or can't say by deathguppie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the NSA comes asking Amazon for data, there are strict rules that apply. They may simply not be able to tell anyone about what information they give over. Especially if it is backed by the FICA court.

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    once more into the breach