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ICE Is About To Start Tracking License Plates Across the US

Presto Vivace shares a report from The Verge: The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency has officially gained agency-wide access to a nationwide license plate recognition database, according to a contract finalized earlier this month. The system gives the agency access to billions of license plate records and new powers of real-time location tracking, raising significant concerns from civil libertarians. The source of the data is not named in the contract, but an ICE representative said the data came from Vigilant Solutions, the leading network for license plate recognition data. While it collects few photos itself, Vigilant Solutions has amassed a database of more than 2 billion license plate photos by ingesting data from partners like vehicle repossession agencies and other private groups. ICE agents would be able to query that database in two ways. A historical search would turn up every place a given license plate has been spotted in the last five years, a detailed record of the target's movements. That data could be used to find a given subject's residence or even identify associates if a given car is regularly spotted in a specific parking lot. Presto Vivace adds, "This will not end well."

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  1. Re:Cool by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 2

    There are plenty available for free, just make sure no one is looking - good luck with latter part.

  2. Missing Option by Moof123 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I ride my bike and garage my car most of the time you insensitive clod.

    Can't wait till get have to have our papers on us every time we travel. Maybe we can give arm bands to identify those we are supposed to be scared of?

    1. Re:Missing Option by sl3xd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You do leave your home with your face, right?

      That's a pretty big clue, all by itself. From there, it's just a matter of combining footage from omnipresent security cameras -- which is really just a matter of effort.

      Combining all security camera footage was pretty effective in getting pictures of the suspects and timeline of the Boston Marathon bombing. London's panopticion is a regular feature on /.

      First it was "terrorists", then "immigrants". We already have prosecutors subpoenaing Alexa and Google Home for murder trials, and people are willingly putting surveillance devices in their homes.

      Hey, Siri, how screwed are we?

      Interesting question, sl3xd

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    2. Re:Missing Option by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I ride a bike quite a bit too, friend, and I'll tell you this: if and when the day comes that we're all either prohibited (in one way or another, or to one degree or another) from riding bicycles anywhere, or are required to have some sort of gods-be-damned license plate on them so they can track us, then we'll know that it's time for Civil War II to start, because things will have officially Gone Way Too Far, and "government by the people for the people" will no longer have any meaning, we'll be living in a full-on police state and have no rights anymore.

    3. Re: Missing Option by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

      "Bread and circuses"

  3. Re:Cool by sl3xd · · Score: 2

    What good would a new plate do you?

    Much like a new driver's license, or even a new car, it still identifies you, and it's not hard to query every license plate of every vehicle you've used (including rentals) since tracking began.

    Unless you're a billionaire and decide to take Steve Jobs's example and buy a new car every few weeks so you never have to get a license plate. (Granted, California recently closed that loophole)

    Cardinal Richelieu would be proud:

    If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.

    In this case, they just have to wait for a crime that happens conveniently close to you.

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  4. Re:Cool by msauve · · Score: 2

    So, state law requires a valid registration plate. But there's nothing preventing someone from putting a dozen other, different ones, on their car as long as the legit one is displayed (free speech!). Wanna do each other a favor? Let's crowd source a variety of license plate stickers. Fun times!

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  5. Re:I find your lack of faith disturbing by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2

    ANPR has been going on in the UK for ages

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  6. Re:Cool by HanzoSpam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That sounds like a good way to end up making the license plates.

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  7. Re:Cool by Ichijo · · Score: 2

    Much like a new driver's license, or even a new car, it still identifies you

    Not exactly. It identifies the owner, who may or may not be the driver.

    Now if the rental agencies and taxis promised not to release customer information without a court order, this could end well for them.

    And if you really don't want to be tracked, you can take mass transit or ride a bike. E-bikes are quite practical in many cases.

    There was a time when most people could go to the store and buy a gallon of milk without carrying any government ID on them, but since then we've zoned the small corner stores out of our neighborhoods. Now most people drive to the grocery store, and that means carrying a driver license. Like a boiling frog, the surveillance state really crept up on us!

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  8. Violation of Washington State Constitution by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3, Funny

    We have a specific Right of Privacy in this state.

    You can't even put a GPS locator on a car without a specific INDIVIDUAL court order by a JUDGE here.

    This is a clear violation.

    Expect to be sued - successfully - by our State Attorney General.

    He's 22 for 22 so far.

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    1. Re:Violation of Washington State Constitution by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not sure what you are smoking but https://www.seattletimes.com/s...

      This has been happening for years. Adorable that you think your llicense plate is private though!

  9. Re:Cool by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 2

    Actually, I bet there is something preventing someone from doing this - the law. Even if there's not, your license plate will still be part of the group - I'm not sure the software cares which is the 10 is you if they're trying to track you or any specific plate.

  10. Jackbooted thugs with badges by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

    That's what some of (not all*) of our law enforcement in this country is turning into, and I in part** blame Trump for this. Haivng the Pussy-grabber-in-chief sitting in the Whitehouse has brought some of the worst kinds of people out of the shadows, emboldened them.


    * I am not going to claim that all police are jackbooted thugs; some genuinely believe in law-and-order, and want to help people.
    ** I'm also not going to lay 100% of the blame on Trump; many of his predecessors have contributed to this problem and/or set the stage for things that are manifesting now. Trump however appears to be the catalyst in many cases.

    1. Re:Jackbooted thugs with badges by rmdingler · · Score: 2

      ...brought some of the worst kinds of people out of the shadows...

      Hmmm... perhaps, and not necessarily, a bad thing.

      Maybe it turns out in hindsight the Trump election was a good thing, as it forced America to look at itself in the mirror.

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    2. Re:Jackbooted thugs with badges by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

      This has been posited to me before, and I admit there is a logic to it -- but just like uncovering a nest of cockroaches, you find yourself disgusted and nauseated, and you still have to clear it out and clean it up. Not happy about any of the above. It'll take decades to undo the damage the traitor in the Whitehouse has done so far.

  11. Re:Cool by NettiWelho · · Score: 2

    Poison the well.

    Undersized 'license plate' looking magnetic stickers, with rearrangeable #s. Different enough the cops can't fuck with you, but big enough to be readable.

    Also: Light machine oil on your plates and no car washes. Dirt will collect...sorry officer, I'll fix that right now.

    Do you also leave your cellphone at home?

  12. Re:Cool by alvinrod · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why take someone else's when you can just make your own instead. It seems to be working really well for all of these people. Just make sure to keep yelling "I do not consent" or inform the police that you are an article 4 free inhabitant when you get pulled over. Works like a charm.

  13. Re:Cool by alvinrod · · Score: 2

    Most people won't even get the pat down at an airport even though they talk about caring about government invasion of privacy. If you think people are going to go to this much trouble to screw with the government, especially when it's going to draw unwanted attention of law enforcement, I've got a bridge to sell you.

  14. _NOT_ going after State Registrations ! by redelm · · Score: 2

    The interesting thing about this news is the datasource is not the State Registrations as one might expect. ICE is using "private" scans most likely because a significant number of state laws prevent them "fishing" and require probable cause for access. I bet much of those "private" DBs are from toll authorities, AFAIK all of which have enabling legislation. Watch for new laws restricting toll authorities, much like public outcry clamped down of State Registration searches.

  15. Re:Cool by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 4, Informative

    But there's nothing preventing someone from putting a dozen other, different ones, on their car as long as the legit one is displayed (free speech!).

    Except state laws?

    For example here is the law around license plates in my state:

    (a)A person commits an offense if the person attaches to or displays on a motor vehicle a license plate that:

    (1)is issued for a different motor vehicle;

    (2)is issued for the vehicle under any other motor vehicle law other than by the department;

    (3)is assigned for a registration period other than the registration period in effect;

    (4)is fictitious;

    (5)has blurring or reflective matter that significantly impairs the readability of the name of the state in which the vehicle is registered or the letters or numbers of the license plate number at any time;

    (6)has an attached illuminated device or sticker, decal, emblem, or other insignia that is not authorized by law and that interferes with the readability of the letters or numbers of the license plate number or the name of the state in which the vehicle is registered; or

    (7)has a coating, covering, protective substance, or other material that:

    So since you can't legally get multiple valid license plates for your car and thus you would either have fictitious license plates or ones that were issued for a different vehicle which violates the law.

  16. Re:Cool by currently_awake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the police follow you around for 5 years, you would expect they require a warrant. Interesting how using technology to achieve the same result is suposedly legal. This appears designed to bypass judicial oversight.

  17. Re: Cool by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    We're reasonably good at putting together hands, elbows, knees and other assorted extremities.

    Brains, not so much.

    Would you rather be in a cast?

    Or a nursing home?

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  18. Relevant by burningcpu · · Score: 2

    I spent an uncomfortable day in court, because a seller had placed a license plate on a truck that did not belong to it, and I did not remove it prior to driving it home post purchase. I was 16. I was stopped by an officer, and given tickets for a 'stolen license plate, stolen license tags,' and hilariously, a fine for the 'stolen' registrations being expired. I was also given a ticket for failing to have registered the vehicle and providing insurance.

    During court, the judge determined that yes, I was guilty of the driving a vehicle under the above conditions. However, the judge determined that the law allows one to drive a vehicle home post purchase, and this conflicts with the requirement of having posted registration information.

    The critical error on my part, had been to leave the old markings on the vehicle. Therefore, I was fined $1 for each transgression. These did not add 'points' to my license.

    I do not suggest putting any false information on your vehicle, to further the parent's message.