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OnePlus Is Again Sending User Data To a Chinese Company Without User Consent (bgr.com)

In October 2017, a researcher caught OnePlus silently collecting all sorts of data from its users. Now, a new report says that there's still a OnePlus app that can grab data from the phone and send it to servers in China without a user's knowledge or express consent. BGR reports: The French security researcher hiding behind the name Elliot Alderson on Twitter detailed OnePlus's data collection practices back in October, and he has now discovered a strange file in the OnePlus clipboard app. A Badword.txt file contains various keywords, including "Chairman, Vice President, Deputy Director, Associate Professor, Deputy Heads, General, Private Message, shipping, Address, email," and others. The file is then duplicated in a zip file called pattern alongside six other .txt files. All these files are apparently used in "in an obfuscated package which seems to be an #Android library from teddymobile." Now, TeddyMobile is a Chinese company that works with plenty of smartphone makers from China. The company seems to be able to recognize words and numbers in text messages. And OnePlus is apparently sending your phone's IMEI number to a TeddyMobile server, too. It looks like the TeddyMobile package might be able to grab all sorts of data from a phone. Even bank numbers are apparently recognized. OnePlus has yet to issue a statement on the matter.

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  1. Android, therefore to be expected... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Not to mention all the private information the phones send to Google.

    At some point, end-users need to be responsible too. No one is forcing them to buy an Android phone or use Google products.

    1. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by saloomy · · Score: 1

      The OS Android is not like the OS Linux. It is made by a for-profit organization, and manufacturers have to make money somehow.

      This is how you have a $99 no contract phone. Surprised?

    2. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2

      This is how you have a $99 no contract phone. Surprised?

      And that's the key right there. "Burner" phones are loaded with the same and worse.

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    3. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that's the key right there. "Burner" phones are loaded with the same and worse.

      Bullshit.

    4. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apple forces me to buy an Android phone by being the only competitor and deciding to lock me into their ecosystem if I use them. Not to mention I still haven't forgiven them for not simply allowing me to access a common filesystem.

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    5. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      People who care about infosec do everything security sensitive on a fully patched laptop.

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    6. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still haven't forgiven them for not simply allowing me to access a common filesystem

      It's a cell phone you virgin, who fucking cares for raw FS access?

    7. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by originalGMC · · Score: 0

      looks like a bunch of assholes talking to each other. carry on!

    8. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      People who are concerned about infosec probably don't even make that much info, or they know how to pass on their data & telemetry into obfuscation. when's the Tails phone coming out again?

    9. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      Apple forces me to buy an Android phone by being the only competitor and deciding to lock me into their ecosystem if I use them. Not to mention I still haven't forgiven them for not simply allowing me to access a common filesystem.

      Tend to agree with AC below. Cell phones with data spying is optional, and is a widely accepted standard operating procedure. Although, so too is the 'black mirror' world we're riding a fucking bullet train into, optional.

      If you weren't such a lazy fuck you'd do something about it. That's right i'm talking to you. You pussy. Rise up if you're so mad about ultrasized corporations serving you advertisements based on your incognito mode porn watching habits. When are you going to reach your breaking point? Do you even have one? Where's your fucking backbone? Are you a person, or a farm animal to be dominated and exploited for profit?

    10. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by slazzy · · Score: 1

      I just install stock android on cheap phones, works great!

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    11. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know all you whiny faggoty VIVA LA REVOLUCIONs can just shut the fuck up and not use this shit for anything sensitive.

      WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO RISE UP?! You're not. Shut the fuck up and go for a jog so you can finally see your dick.

    12. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Isn't that basically what Richard Spencer says about constitutional rights?

      "It's an ethnostate you virgin, who fucking cares about 'muh constitutional rights'?"

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    13. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Apple forces me to buy an Android phone by being the only competitor and deciding to lock me into their ecosystem if I use them. Not to mention I still haven't forgiven them for not simply allowing me to access a common filesystem.

      IOS 11 has a Filesystem browser as an included App. Do try to keep up, Hater.

      How does Apple "lock you into their ecosystem" any more than Android locks you into their ecosystem? You can't run iOS Apps on an Android phone any more (or any less) than you can run Android Apps on an iOS phone?

      Plus, ever since iOS 8 (which debuted over 3 years ago) Apple has officially allowed "sideloading" of Apps from ANY source on iOS devices. In fact, there is both a thriving community of Maintainers of Open Source Apps Apps, as well as several sites that have many closed-source ".ipa" files that can be readily installed on any iOS device run ing iOS 8 or above, using the Freeware Cydia Impactor (available for macOS,Windows, and Linux), no "Jailbreaking" required. And absolutely no App Store involvement whatsoever.

      Again, do try to keep up, Hater.

    14. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple forces me to buy an Android phone by being the only competitor and deciding to lock me into their ecosystem if I use them. Not to mention I still haven't forgiven them for not simply allowing me to access a common filesystem.

      IOS 11 has a Filesystem browser as an included App. Do try to keep up, Hater.

      How does Apple "lock you into their ecosystem" any more than Android locks you into their ecosystem? You can't run iOS Apps on an Android phone any more (or any less) than you can run Android Apps on an iOS phone?

      Plus, ever since iOS 8 (which debuted over 3 years ago) Apple has officially allowed "sideloading" of Apps from ANY source on iOS devices. In fact, there is both a thriving community of Maintainers of Open Source Apps Apps, as well as several sites that have many closed-source ".ipa" files that can be readily installed on any iOS device run ing iOS 8 or above, using the Freeware Cydia Impactor (available for macOS,Windows, and Linux), no "Jailbreaking" required. And absolutely no App Store involvement whatsoever.

      Again, do try to keep up, Hater.

      Well, it doesn't matter whether ios has filesystem or not if it cannot be used as such.

      Sample case: Open up a web service and try to download generated PDF file.

      Android: The browser offers the file to be downloaded and can be handled with any applications on device with no strings attached.

      iOS: Safari just initiates download and then... absolutely nothing. It just plainly ignores the file and downloads nothing at all.

    15. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Recently I tested several media players on an iphone. I had to upload my library three times because each media player was a tiny compartment of it's own. It would have been so much easier to just plug in a usb cable, upload once, and test the three media players with it.

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    16. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      How does Apple "lock you into their ecosystem" any more than Android locks you into their ecosystem?

      By making iTunes the only legitimate way to interact with the phone.

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    17. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by DaMattster · · Score: 1

      No, Android is not at fault. The fact that the phone is made by a Chinese company is the problem.

    18. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what this thread is about. As a consumer, if I don't like Apple then buying Android is my way to 'rise up'. See how it's working out for me?

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    19. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      ..or maybe I should have used fucking iTunes. I could have watched it start up, find my phone, download everything on my phone, upload everything from my computer, sync it with anything I had before, and make that the ONLY IOS DEVICE I can ever plug into my computer because heaven forbid, should I ever want to plug in my brother-in-law or business partner's phone and just get something off of it. I could go on but I'm not going to.

      No fucking thanks.

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    20. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      How does Apple "lock you into their ecosystem" any more than Android locks you into their ecosystem?

      By making iTunes the only legitimate way to interact with the phone.

      1. It doesn't keep you from having another music player. Plus There are other applications that you can use to load music onto an iOS device. Here's a few free (and non-free) alternatives. Do try to keep up, Hater:

      https://www.easeus.com/iphone-...

      https://www.macworld.co.uk/how...

      https://drfone.wondershare.com... ...and there are literally dozens more alternatives. So, next bullshit objection?

      BTW, that search took zero time on Google. So you are either stupid beyond belief, or actively using willful blindness as an excuse for your bigotry. Take your pick.

      2. Other than doing certain very limited operations, such as encypted backups, you don't have to use it for anything. I have never hooked my iPhone up to iTunes, for example. And with iCloud Backup for iOS, you can even forego that functionality (and get automatic backups, too!).

      But, as I have said, I haven't ever hooked my iPhone 6 Plus up to iTunes for ANYTHING; but the pricing of iCloud backup has me pretty interested, and can even be shared among your family.

      https://support.apple.com/en-u...

      But as I said, please don't let any of this disturb your fantasy of unabashed Apple Hatred.

    21. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you a person, or a farm animal to be dominated and exploited for profit?

      Mooooooo.

    22. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you shill so hard for Apple?

    23. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You morons didn't bother to rtfa did you?

      Idiots. This 'story' is clickbait.

    24. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      If I want several music players, the only way for me to load one library that they can all share is for me to use itunes. So yes, I am forced to use iTunes. Otherwise I must use some flaky little embedded webserver so I can upload my library individually to each app one by one with some little crappy webconsole.

      These are hoops I don't want to jump through. My android phone works like a flash drive, which is what makes sense for a portable storage device.

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    25. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      If I want several music players, the only way for me to load one library that they can all share is for me to use itunes. So yes, I am forced to use iTunes. Otherwise I must use some flaky little embedded webserver so I can upload my library individually to each app one by one with some little crappy webconsole.

      These are hoops I don't want to jump through. My android phone works like a flash drive, which is what makes sense for a portable storage device.

      What does your phone have to do with centralized media storage? Do you plan on using your phone as a Plex Server, FFS?!?

      If you want that sort of thing, get any one of a zillion NASes, and set it up to be a media server you can access over your LAN and the interwebs via Plex, VLC, iOS "Music", etc.

      But now that I've shown that you have several alternatives to using iTunes for managing the music in an iPhone, you move the goalposts yet again.

      I'm on to your game. If you want to trade security of your personal information for the ability to mount your phone as a USB flash drive, then fine. We won't miss you. And the Chinese/Russian/NSA hackers will be overjoyed...

    26. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Now I feel you are willfully being ignorant. I said nothing about central network storage and already gave good reasons why isolation on a phone is awkward.

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    27. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Yeah, AFAYK, Apple stopped all that shit when they got outted for CarrierIQ shit.

    28. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Fuck, you're a cunt. Access the file system and use it, not just browse it. One of the most infuriating times helping an iPhone user try and download some meditation mp3's she purchased. The instructions were to right click and save file, obviously for desktop/windows users. So I said to just long press the link and you can just save it. NOPE, not fucking possible. You can't save a motherfucking file from Web like any other fucking device. I was floored. Google around, need an app like dropbox. Go to install dropbox, a free app, and need to enter credit card and password had to be entered at least 4 times without leaving app store. It was so fucking frustrated because it would literally be native and simple to save a goddamn mp3. This is one of the reasons I don't consider iPhone users to be "power users" or even "productive". Can't wait for your reply where you say this basic functionality just got added to the 11th fucking iOS.

    29. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Wow, even the biggest kool-aid drinker doesn't use that shitty iTunes. That says a LOT.

    30. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      "Besides, you also need to install iTunes on your PC for iPhone data reading, which is inevitable for a third-party tool. " Now fuck off.

    31. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Now I feel you are willfully being ignorant. I said nothing about central network storage and already gave good reasons why isolation on a phone is awkward.

      So your comment regarding "one library they can all share" doesn't imply centralized media storage (and serving)?

      Ok, then what DID you mean?

    32. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Fuck, you're a cunt. Access the file system and use it, not just browse it.

      One of the most infuriating times helping an iPhone user try and download some meditation mp3's she purchased. The instructions were to right click and save file, obviously for desktop/windows users.

      So I said to just long press the link and you can just save it. NOPE, not fucking possible. You can't save a motherfucking file from Web like any other fucking device. I was floored.

      Google around, need an app like dropbox. Go to install dropbox, a free app, and need to enter credit card and password had to be entered at least 4 times without leaving app store. It was so fucking frustrated because it would literally be native and simple to save a goddamn mp3. This is one of the reasons I don't consider iPhone users to be "power users" or even "productive".

      Can't wait for your reply where you say this basic functionality just got added to the 11th fucking iOS.

      Jesus, calm down Hater! I used the wrong term. The iOS 11 "Files" App is a lot more than just a File Browser. Is it a full-blown version of the macOS Finder for iOS. Not yet. But it is pretty good for a version 1 App:

      https://www.imore.com/files-ap...

      I don't have iOS 11 on any of my iOS devices; so I can't specifically speak to your example; but it sounds like it probably would work like you are expecting.

      Does that help, Cunt?

    33. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Wow, even the biggest kool-aid drinker doesn't use that shitty iTunes. That says a LOT.

      I use iTunes as a music player, but I don't NEED it for anything else.

      Stop twisting my words, Hater.

    34. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      "Besides, you also need to install iTunes on your PC for iPhone data reading, which is inevitable for a third-party tool. "

      Now fuck off.

      WTF are you blathering about now, Hater?

    35. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      A version 1 app for something that has been around since 1970. Way to go Apple. *golf clap*

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    36. Re: Android, therefore to be expected... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      A version 1 app for something that has been around since 1970. Way to go Apple. *golf clap*

      Find me a version of iOS from 1970.

    37. Re:Android, therefore to be expected... by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      Your not wrong, but check this out: http://www.libimobiledevice.or...

      My kids have school ipads, and this lets me take a backup outside icloud when they turn them in at the end of the year.

  2. Not if you use a HOSTS file. by apparently · · Score: 1

    I r00ted my OnePlus and installed hosts.apk and now China doesn't know nothing.

    1. Re:Not if you use a HOSTS file. by ELCouz · · Score: 1

      APK would be proud of you son!

    2. Re: Not if you use a HOSTS file. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't use a hosts file for this. You use static black hole routing for this.

    3. Re: Not if you use a HOSTS file. by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      It's okay. I've heard that you have to say his name three times while looking in the mirror in order for him to appear.

    4. Re:Not if you use a HOSTS file. by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      hmmmmm why do you care, exactly, about china knowing about you in particular?

      datafication is a byproduct of the information era. these companies and governments think they know stuff about you in general by browsing through your data in large aggregates, but that's also the same thing as google thinking I like arsenal by my googling of "fuck arsenal" ... point being, the fucking corporations don't know shit, can't know shit, only think they know shit, by twisting data into pivoted, algorithmically filtered bits of fucking nonsense. Give me a bit of data you think is true about me, and while I'm punching you in the throat (you fucking spy trying to sell my shit to capitalist pig fuckers) I will tell you how all of it is either untrue or fabricated to fuck up your data model.

      making lots of fake data in websites and phones is pretty easy with the right scripts....the new VPN is obfuscation, not encryption. BE the noise, don't run from it.

    5. Re:Not if you use a HOSTS file. by originalGMC · · Score: 0

      I r00ted my OnePlus and installed hosts.apk and now China doesn't know nothing.

      If China "doesn't know nothing" then what are the things that it knows aren't nothing, exactly? WTF are you talking about?

    6. Re: Not if you use a HOSTS file. by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      You use someone else's computer for this. Duh. Why would anyone who is concerned about this nonsense even begin to make data? You think our asinine comments on this ... eh ... pretty good website mean shit to anyone, other than people trying to advertise shit you won't buy?

      part of me is concerned with humans wasting their time on this planet with bullshit like this, and the other part is content to let them waste their trite and meaningless lives of 'disrupting' and 'solutionism' and (insert money grubbing asshole catch phrase here)

    7. Re:Not if you use a HOSTS file. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact that you spell that "r00ted" speaks volumes about your maturity. Grow up, child.

    8. Re:Not if you use a HOSTS file. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      euh, because a compromised phone would honor a user installed app? If it became popular in China it would just be easily blocked with an update, most likely silent thus ending your protection without your knowledge.

    9. Re:Not if you use a HOSTS file. by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Except what is buried in hardware rather than software. You have changed the software not the hardware and if you a serious about backdoors at government level, they are always, always done in the hardware. So you probably only think you are safe, which is of course the typical goal of the spy vs spy types, think you are safe so you let your guard down. For one thing you probably have flagged yourself with that root, just the thing the spy vs spy types would pick up on, especially with limited numbers, from their professionally paranoid point of view, what are you trying to hide.

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  3. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Google does it, it's all good. When someone else does it it's a bad thing. Would the problem really be resolved if this Chinese company put out a vague, designed to be hard to read, privacy policy?

    1. Re:Hmm by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      who's to say they're not in cahoots? You really think an OS can be written without the mothership being notified about important data points? Certain flavours of linux aside, Google=x whereas X= people who collect data for various capitalist pig fucker reasons. They buy the shit as often as they sell it .... data that is.

    2. Re:Hmm by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Every single OS written before the internet was a common household thing says hi.

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  4. why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    would u buy a phone from china?

    1. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I know I have a good old american made IPhone.

    2. Re: why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thereâ(TM)s a huge difference from manufactured and China and from actual Chinese companies. Donâ(TM)t be obtuse.

    3. Re: why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Huge difference! Spying embedded on chip vs spying via os changes.

    4. Re: why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is also a huge difference between what you wrote and English...

    5. Re:why by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      SLAVES built the Pyramids.
      SLAVES built the Parthenon
      SLAVES built America!
      SLAVES built the iphone!
      SLAVES! this is your song... thank you slaves!

    6. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sorry to tell you this but slaves did not build the pyramids!

    7. Re:why by Talla · · Score: 1

      would u buy a phone from china?

      Because OnePlus is one of the brands with the best support from https://lineageos.org/. I think the question is why would anyone use the original firmware?

    8. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can u buy a phone NOT made in China?

    9. Re: why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      None of my phones have been made in China, the last 3 were made in South Korea (not all Samsung are, but mine were) and the two Nokia before them were (surprisingly) still made in Finland. There is still a choice to buy from a democracy if you avoid Apple products.

    10. Re: why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet still randomly reboots every few days. If that's the best support, I'd hate to see the worst...

    11. Re:why by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      Sorry to tell you this but slaves did not build the pyramids!

      Uhhhh, I'm pretty sure they did. The rulers of that society wrote volumes about it; it's a well-documented historical fact.

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    12. Re:why by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      would u buy a phone from china?

      Because practically no one else on the planet makes them?

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    13. Re: why by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      They were union with overtime and full benefits, amirite?

    14. Re: why by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Yes, but they require spelling "you", because this isn't the 90's.

    15. Re: why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were union with overtime and full benefits, amirite?

      Guaranteed Lifetime Employment!

    16. Re:why by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 0

      Sorry to tell you this but slaves did not build the pyramids!

      Absolutely right! :) The slavery thing was speculation by the ancient Greeks which got incorporated into the Old Testament and so now nobody can use real evidence to refute that myth without incurring the wrath of hoards of rabid Christian fundamentalists, most of whom live in the USA.

      Hey America, those nut-jobs are dragging your whole country down!

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  5. Why? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why are we still surprised at these stories? This is SOP, if you don't do something to stop it, you can just presume that it is being done.

    1. Re:Why? by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      a man after me own heart, this Brett Buck character.

  6. CIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The CIA is upset that they don't get your OnePlus data. They recommend you stick to Apple.

    1. Re:CIA by ELCouz · · Score: 1

      or BlackBerry ...*sigh*

    2. Re:CIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea no, Apple actually takes iOS security and confidentiality pretty seriously. But keep spreading FUD because theres a story about one brand you like more than another.

    3. Re:CIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still using a Blackberry Classic.
      I see no more phones in my future.

    4. Re:CIA by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Oh, they get the data. It's android. They obviously get the data.

  7. Nobody who cares about security or privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody who cares about security or privacy should buy a Chinese company's android device. What a joke.

  8. Little late on this eh? by bhcompy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    OnePlus already responded and debunked his claim. This guy spreads FUD about OnePlus like it's some kind of personal vendetta.

    1. Re:Little late on this eh? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      OnePlus already responded and debunked his claim. This guy spreads FUD about OnePlus like it's some kind of personal vendetta.

      Of course Comrade "bhcompy", of course.

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    2. Re:Little late on this eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Feature phone subsidized by "unknown" benefactor gives you big value! You must understand experience is top-notch! Best user phone for fullest enjoyment of your life!

      And you question your recently-unmasked data-master? Go watch TRON.. you should strive to understand the difference between a "program", a "user" and "master control"

      Peace out.

    3. Re:Little late on this eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh yes, the good old "I didn't do it!" debunk. Very convincing in light of hard evidence with a trail that anyone with a phone can reproduce.

    4. Re:Little late on this eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So run a packet trace and show us that this is actually happening. Don't take the word of some shitty pseudo-news site.

    5. Re:Little late on this eh? by hankwang · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Would you mind providing a link to OnePlus's response? And regarding alleged FUD: this guy discovered the adb root mode in OnePlus; is that FUD in your opinion?

    6. Re:Little late on this eh? by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      you say comrade like its a slanted text thing. why?

    7. Re:Little late on this eh? by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      are you one of those capitalist pig fuckers my mom told me about?

    8. Re:Little late on this eh? by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      a big difference indeed. I don't FEEL the strings being pulled by my masters, does that mean they're not actually there?

    9. Re:Little late on this eh? by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      I'm seeing a very distinct lack of screenshots in peoples' posts here.

    10. Re:Little late on this eh? by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      don't forget to post your packet trace in text form in a comments tree read by nobody but trolls, nerds and software.

    11. Re:Little late on this eh? by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      agree. anyone can type shit. out your source.

    12. Re:Little late on this eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not unless he was fucking your mother little oinker

    13. Re:Little late on this eh? by phayes · · Score: 1

      TFA has been updated with a statement.

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    14. Re:Little late on this eh? by mrbester · · Score: 1

      The "researcher" himself has admitted that he did not verify his claim and when pressed, could not, because no such thing is happening. It took a while for him to get around to that and in that time all the Chicken Littles who like to squawk about the evil Chinese flooded the net with their bollocks.

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    15. Re:Little late on this eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit claims like this is usually a preemptive strike.
      If you accuse someone else of doing it first and it turned out to be false it takes the edge of when the same accusations shows up against you.
      The question is which of the other phone companies it is and who they are sending data to.

    16. Re:Little late on this eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention it's a OnePlus phone that is easily unlocked and manipulated. There is a service that collects some anonymous data to send back to OnePlus, but you can easily stop this. Heck it's a OnePlus phone, change the entire operating system if you want.

    17. Re:Little late on this eh? by piojo · · Score: 1

      From the article:

      UPDATE: OnePlus reached out to BGR to say that the claim that the Clipboard app is sending user data to a server is false, and that the code is “entirely inactive” in the open beta for Oxygen OS. The company says that no user data is sent to any server without consent.

      In the open beta for HydrogenOS, which is the OS for China, the folder exists “to filter out what data to not upload,” OnePlus added. Local data in the folder is skipped and not sent to any server.

      It does make sense that it would be a blacklist. And I certainly hope it's true that the international version of the firmware doesn't send any of this sensitive data anywhere. And if this is the case, it's because this is the sort of thing the Chinese usually don't care about, rather than because it's being forced on them by the government. They can probably get a lot more diagnostic info from China than the US/Europe without serious user complaints.

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  9. One Minus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For best phones look at the European makers. No, fishy stuff there. Old school Nokia where are you?

  10. The sad state of manufacturers by chromaexcursion · · Score: 1

    I was looking at a OnePlus phone when I bought a different one. They have good features at a very good price. But I prefer dealing with a non Chinese company that has their phones made in China, than a Chinese company. I am so glad of the choice I made.
    No, I didn't buy an Apple, Samsung, Google, or Motorola. I bought a different well made off brand, and will not advertise for them.

    1. Re: The sad state of manufacturers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks FUCKER!

    2. Re:The sad state of manufacturers by beckett · · Score: 1

      But I prefer dealing with a non Chinese company that has their phones made in China, than a Chinese company. I am so glad of the choice I made.

      besides the general good feelings you have with your purchase, what data do you have that your device is any more secure than (allegedly) OnePlus, or any other Chinese company? You admit your hardware is made in China, so you're reassured by non-Chinese marketing and image, of all things??

      Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

    3. Re:The sad state of manufacturers by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      I sure hope it isn't BLU...

    4. Re:The sad state of manufacturers by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

      agree. Security by obscurity is very strong. What you don't know, can't ..................

  11. Their user has given consent by RhettLivingston · · Score: 2

    If they are a phone company, the headline is correct. If they are an intelligence collection company, their user has absolutely given consent. The "customers" are actually the product.

    Sadly, this isn't unusual today. By looking the other way repeatedly, we have allowed ourselves to become the product for many, many businesses that we believe we are customers of. In our sickness, we believe ourselves to be the customers even when we don't pay.

  12. Digital Hygiene - Sale of contaminated products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Companies that cannot sell clean phones need to be put out of business.
    All phones need a 'shutup' button or app, or better an app that feeds marketing crap/bullshit to the modern day Nigerian bank letter scam.

    New laws are needed to enforce digital hygiene, backed with actual real defined fines per user.
    I can imagine some company saying oh these are just extra blobs, not actually used, as if a vaccine that also contains some other harmful pathogens is still good to go. Yeah right.

    One expects reputation harm from behind your back practices, but this is not the case yet. Just a matter of time before software receivers get good enough to harvest all you office colleagues, and harvest what they gave permission to give away.

    1. Re:Digital Hygiene - Sale of contaminated products by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      You say this like its a choice. To work at a job these days, you have to sign away your rights, submit to credit and background checks, maybe even give up social feeds to pass the CV test. How about that, being pressured to be ..... what, exactly? ..... just to be able to pay your landlord for the privilege of not being homeless. Why not just kill your landlord? It's not like they're doing anything productive for the world or society.

  13. BGR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This comes from BGR? They are less credible than Trump...

    1. Re:BGR? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Nearly impossible.

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  14. Debunked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.androidpolice.com/2018/01/26/no-oneplus-still-not-sending-clipboard-data-china/

    1. Re:Debunked by Luthair · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This isn't actually debunking, this is the manufacturer issuing a statement claiming differently. We need independent verification.

  15. Shell companies ahd H1-B employees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Make no mistake. Many "big data" companies have clients whom their own engineers are not allowed to know the name of, and have staff on H1-B visas from both sides of the same war. (Israel and Palestine, India and Pakistan, Russia and the Ukraine, Iran and Iraq, Haiti and the Dominican Republic, Miami and Atlanta. The list goes on.)

    And most of them have no security to speak of. Root keys on dozens of systems, legacy employees with SSH keys scattered passphrase free on dozens of machines, S3 backups with root passkeys to all other AWS images and the list goes on and on.

    1. Re:Shell companies ahd H1-B employees by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      Make no mistake. Many "big data" companies have clients whom their own engineers are not allowed to know the name of, and have staff on H1-B visas from both sides of the same war. (Israel and Palestine, India and Pakistan, Russia and the Ukraine, Iran and Iraq, Haiti and the Dominican Republic, Miami and Atlanta. The list goes on.)

      You seem good at lists. List for me sources plz. I work with plenty of H1 workers, haven't met 1 yet I would fire, or even trade for a white boy american. You all really put too much value in your nationalism, a bourgerois construct to say the least. Give me evidence that H1s aren't people deserving of respect, and I'll give you the punch in the face you've been waiting for, you liar. Seriously though, if you have a source, fucking quote it, unless you're content to just be the greenandgrey noise on just another dumb corporate owned sensationalist news website.

    2. Re:Shell companies ahd H1-B employees by dwpro · · Score: 1

      Your racist drivel completely missed OP's point. While you were fetishing over punching someone who says something you don't like, the OP was (vaguely and anecdotally) outlining an attack vector for hostile government access to the data of US citizens.

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    3. Re:Shell companies ahd H1-B employees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I’d fire 90 of my h1b if I could. I’d hire h1b directly which works out better but costs more than the dozens I’ve got through cognizant, tata, and infosys

  16. Nothing to worry about, move along by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    China is an ally and a thriving democracy, unlike the R-country.

  17. A quick sanity check says otherwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Teddymobile is definitely there, and a quick check on them says they're a datamining company with apps to 'upgrade address book security'... i.e. they install malware that spies on you while offering bogus services:

    "2017 is a real year for big data. The business model of big data realization is getting clearer. High-valuation companies are fulfilling expectations. Big data mining, analysis, visualization and other technical links are also being integrated with all walks of life. The potential companies continue Appear, especially the rapid development of industry applications.

    "According to the forecast compiled by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, the scale of China's big data industry in 2017 will be nearly 2 trillion yuan, up to 5 trillion in 2020 and a compound annual growth rate of 35.7%.

    "The first platform for Internet research and development - Love Analytics tracks the market and continually updates the China Big Data Enterprise Valuation List. This year's latest list covers 72 companies in five major areas: basic platform, general technology, data trading, industrial applications and data security. List shows the fastest growing industry applications, the largest list, into the biggest winner, the top ten in the list of 9 is the industry application. Teddy Bear set up only three years of mobile debut list, a label is an industry application, two labels belong to marketing big data."

    http://teddymobile.cn/page/tedst.do

    1. Re:A quick sanity check says otherwise by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      many many many reasons not to follow link.

  18. China vs America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Frankly, I'd be more worried if my data was sent to an American company than a Chinese one.

    1. Re:China vs America by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      tend to agree.

  19. Thank Yisus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And to think I once almost bought one of this shitcompany phones.

    1. Re: Thank Yisus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its been shown to be false.

      http://www.androidpolice.com/2018/01/26/no-oneplus-still-not-sending-clipboard-data-china/

      The allegations are wrong. How long will it take slashdot to update. It is almost like slashdot doesn't care they have false and misleading and sensationalist story as it helps them get page views and ad views and info on readers browsing habits.

    2. Re: Thank Yisus by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Slashdot doesn't edit and update incorrect stories, it's part of their click bait strategy. They are assholes with no integrity.

  20. Who's constantly spamming this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple or Samsung, afraid of their long-gone domination?

    Because this kind of spying has always been built into any iOS/Android/MS device or even OS, and even though it's just as evil and harmful, they're openly advertising it like it's a feature. Which seems to be the style of today, following the NSA's doubling down after the Snowden leaks.

    Or because OMGCHINA?
    Because, you know, we here in Europe are really more afraid of the USA than of China. Even if you just use at the budgets alone. Or the amount of wars since '45. Or the number of nukes actually dropped on humans. (China might have more concentration camps though. But it's not like the US has no "black sites".)
    (And no, I don't hate Americans per se. You can thank John Steward and Silas Nacita for that, just to name two. It's more a problem with your psychopathic world-destroying corporate oligarchy that illegitimately calls itself your "government", and the apparent amount of the population not opposing it, that reminds me of when we had a similarly evil leadership around here.)

  21. Android is a Dumpster Fire by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 0

    Time to admit that the entire Android ecosystem and App Store model is a raging dumpster fire, and it's millions of users are unwittingly being burned to death every single day.

    Whine all you want about iOS' "Walled Garden" (which has been demonstrably untrue since iOS 8 allowed "sideloading" of Apps), but there is something fundamentally broken with the whole OS, that it allows this shitstorm on an almost daily basis for years on end.

    If Google wanted to stop this, they could. But they obviously couldn't give less of a shit about their millions of victims, er, users, if they tried.

    1. Re: Android is a Dumpster Fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it isn't?

    2. Re:Android is a Dumpster Fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who sells anything in china does the same.
      Don't think apple and google don't.

    3. Re:Android is a Dumpster Fire by techno_dan · · Score: 1

      But iOS is a walled garden. Try to put music onto an iPhone without using iTunes. A friend was shocked when I told him he had to install it on his computer if he wanted his library on his phone. Needless to say, he returned the iPhone.

    4. Re: Android is a Dumpster Fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.androidpolice.com/2018/01/26/no-oneplus-still-not-sending-clipboard-data-china/

      The allegations are wrong. How long will it take slashdot to update. It is almost like slashdot doesn't care they have false and misleading and sensationalist story as it helps them get page views and ad views and info on readers browsing habits.

    5. Re:Android is a Dumpster Fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did not need iTunes installed to get my library. Seems like you poorly advised your friend and caused him wasted hours in returning his iphone for a subpar replacement

    6. Re:Android is a Dumpster Fire by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 0

      You outright LIED to your friend, you stupid, uninformed FUCK. You need to aplolgize to him IMMEDIATELY, and tell him you are a stupid, bigoted fucker.

      How does Apple "lock you into their ecosystem" any more than Android locks you into their ecosystem?

      By making iTunes the only legitimate way to interact with the phone.

      1. It doesn't keep you from having another music player. Plus There are other applications that you can use to load music onto an iOS device. Here's a few free (and non-free) alternatives. Do try to keep up, Hater:

      https://www.easeus.com/iphone-...

      https://www.macworld.co.uk/how...

      https://drfone.wondershare.com... ...and there are literally dozens more alternatives. So, next bullshit objection?

      BTW, that search took zero time on Google. So you are either stupid beyond belief, or actively using willful blindness as an excuse for your bigotry. Take your pick.

      2. Other than doing certain very limited operations, such as encypted backups, you don't have to use it for anything. I have never hooked my iPhone up to iTunes, for example. And with iCloud Backup for iOS, you can even forego that functionality (and get automatic backups, too!).

      But, as I have said, I haven't ever hooked my iPhone 6 Plus up to iTunes for ANYTHING; but the pricing of iCloud backup has me pretty interested, and can even be shared among your family.

      https://support.apple.com/en-u...

      But as I said, please don't let any of this disturb your fantasy of unabashed Apple Hatred.

    7. Re:Android is a Dumpster Fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fanboi triggered.

    8. Re: Android is a Dumpster Fire by Brockmire · · Score: 2

      Fuck off. Apple was already caught years ago with CarrierIQ, you don't get to throw stones.

    9. Re: Android is a Dumpster Fire by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Why do you act like unofficial workarounds are blessed by Apple when they aren't? It's not designed by Apple to be used this way and you're doing it wrong.

    10. Re: Android is a Dumpster Fire by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      Fuck off. Apple was already caught years ago with CarrierIQ, you don't get to throw stones.

      1. That was iOS 5, 6 years ago.

      2. It was easily disabled by the user on iOS

      3. On iOS, it logged nothing but diagnostic data, and had no access to ANY personal information or key logging whatsoever.

      4. It was on EVERY platform at the time; but on iOS, it was actually used for a legitimate purpose, unlike on Android.

      5. It has been gone for over half a decade..

      Nice try, Hater:

      https://www.cultofmac.com/1325...

    11. Re: Android is a Dumpster Fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "...you are a stupid, bigoted fucker."

      "...keep up, Hater."

      I sincerely hope the irony of your statements is not lost on you.

  22. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you were dumb enough to think you were going to buy from one of these Chinese companies and get a secure device that doesn't spy on you then you deserve it.

    1. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you were dumb enough to think you were going to buy from any company and get a secure device that doesn't spy on you then you deserve it.

      FTFY

    2. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you thought you were going to get the cheapest handset with the features you wanted at the lowest price so you could just install a custom ROM that you know is secure, then you were right on the money.

  23. oneplus has responded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.androidpolice.com/2018/01/26/no-oneplus-still-not-sending-clipboard-data-china/

    The allegations are wrong. How long will it take slashdot to update. It is almost like slashdot doesn't care they have false and misleading and sensationalist story as it helps them get page views and ad views and info on readers browsing habits.

    1. Re:oneplus has responded by HiThere · · Score: 1

      There are allegations that the allegations are wrong. The source I checked did not include any specifics that would allow their claims to be validated. The original report contained numerous specifics that would allow third parties to validate it.

      I'm not going to buy one of those phones, so I would have no way to check either, but if I'm going to decide which to believe, I'm going to believe the one that could be validated.

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    2. Re:oneplus has responded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not going to buy one of those phones

      don't buy any cars either

  24. What devices and firmwares are affected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see any mention of which devices and/or firmware releases are affected, or even in which this was discovered.

  25. Are you saying google doesn't lock you in? by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Boy are you naive.

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  26. Wrong! Re:Debunked by HiThere · · Score: 1

    That is a denial, not a debunking. And it's not only a denial, it's a denial by an interested party.

    A debunking would require validatable evidence substantiating claims made.

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  27. Spying still has same solution this year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google, China, ATT & Verizon have same spy intents. You have the same cure again this year. Install Lineage OS sans gapps. Do the steps to verify all original OS, crapware &spyware are gone, then install Lineage again. Do not install Google 'wares, unless you want spying and the grossly decreased battery time. Lineage is current name of cyanogenmod OS.

  28. Boy am I shocked by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    So, a corporation is stealing people's data, personal info.

    Boy am I shocked. Soooo shocked. Really- just look at my shocked face. See how shocked I am? Shocked, shocked, shocked.

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    1. Re:Boy am I shocked by WallyL · · Score: 1

      I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

  29. Hatorade Distortion Field by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    Apple forces me to buy an Android phone by being the only competitor and deciding to lock me into their ecosystem if I use them. Not to mention I still haven't forgiven them for not simply allowing me to access a common filesystem.

    Yet you're totally ok with being Google's product to sell to advertisers. If nothing else, with Apple you are the customer. And like most Hatebois, you probably spend a hard days work whining about Cupertino's "walled garden", before spending a nice relaxing night of playing a game console, watching a movie on a Blue Ray player, or taking a drive in a car with an infotainment system. None of which allow root access or running a single application not approved by the manufacturer.

    1. Re:Hatorade Distortion Field by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I agree, it's crap. No argument there. It's still a better alternative than Apple.

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  30. Is this really fucking happening??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a OnePlus Three.... fuck!!!!!!!