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Samsung Billionaire Gets Off Easy (gizmodo.com)

Lee Jae-yong, the Samsung chief found guilty of bribery and embezzlement, was freed from prison after an appeals court reduced and suspended his five-year prison sentence. Gizmodo reports: Lee had pleaded not guilty to all charges and spent nearly a year in jail, CNN reported, before the appeals court reduced his sentence to two and a half years and suspended it for four. The court reportedly found him guilty of one bribery charge, but not of hiding money offshore. It also overturned another bribery charge. It's important to understand that Samsung has a tight grip on the country's economy. Known as a "chaebol," or a (usually family-owned) business conglomerate, Samsung contributes to a little over one-fifth of the country's exports. Its businesses make up about 15 percent of the country's total economy. It is extremely rare for leaders of the country's chaebols to be justly punished for their crimes -- most convicted are ultimately pardoned or granted a commutation. Lee's father, Lee Kun-hee, has been pardoned twice for similar charges.

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  1. Must be nice by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    to be above the law. It's good to be the king.

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    1. Re:Must be nice by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 1

      I think you might be overlooking the fact that the government the the ones asking for these bribes... and when they sense someone is getting out of line (like providing 1/5 the country's exports) and thinking they're all high and mighty, it's necessary for the government to remind these execs who is in charge. They slap their hand, then let them return to business as usual.

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    2. Re:Must be nice by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Too Big to Sue

  2. Like father, like son by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lee's father, Lee Kun-hee, has been pardoned twice for similar charges.

    1. Re:Like father, like son by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, it's nice to see someone get into the family business.

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    2. Re: Like father, like son by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      First of all it's only modded +1.
      Secondly, the mod is for the title, not the comment.
      Thirdly, calm the fuck down.
      Fourthly, profits!

  3. Same as the US by DogDude · · Score: 2

    Being an American, I just shrug. We have the same "justice system" here. Poor people go to jail. Rich people don't. It's not right, but it's not news, either.

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    1. Re: Same as the US by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      You tell 'em, Osama!

    2. Re:Same as the US by Solandri · · Score: 1

      For all its problems, the U.S. system is still better than Korea's. This type of corruption is part of the reason Korea's GDP per capita is still below $30k (below $40k in PPP), while the U.S. is approaching $60k (that is, the average American is about twice as productive as the average Korean). Corruption diverts money away from where the market wants to send it, decreasing productivity and thus lowering GDP per capita. Mind you, Korea has come a long way in the last 25 years. A spate of building and bridge collapses led to cleaning up a lot of the corruption surrounding government permits and inspections. But it still has a ways to go to genuinely achieve first-world levels of productivity (roughly $40k+).

  4. Hey! by guygo · · Score: 1

    I thought the US had the best Justice System money can buy! Come on, guys!

    1. Re:Hey! by slew · · Score: 1

      In Korea, the perps didn't have to "buy" justice, it was included in the package...

      That's the difference between "new" money and "old" money. If you have "old" money you don't even have to spend it. Buying justice is only for "new" money folks...

  5. Get to the top by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    Rip everyone off.

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    1. Re:Get to the top by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Name a country where this doesn't happen.

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    2. Re:Get to the top by hey! · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:Get to the top by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Name a country where this doesn't happen.

      What do countries have to do with corruption and human nature? Criminal acts are criminal acts and prosecuting corruption would help.

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    4. Re:Get to the top by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Because people tend to become nationalistic and say "look what happens in $COUNTRY" and continue by thinking "my country is better".

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    5. Re:Get to the top by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Um... your post reinforces my post, by the way. Thanks, I guess?

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    6. Re:Get to the top by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Because people tend to become nationalistic and say "look what happens in $COUNTRY" and continue by thinking "my country is better".

      So are you saying your country is worse?

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    7. Re:Get to the top by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Well... it is. Way worse.

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    8. Re:Get to the top by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Do you think its corruption that makes it worse?

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    9. Re:Get to the top by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Yes, my country has an endemic corruption mindset, stemming from 45 years of communism (until 1989) and a continuation of the same mentality ever since.

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  6. Re:rule of law in ROK, how does that work? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    s/law/money/

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  7. Sounds Familiar by mentil · · Score: 2

    Known as a "chaebol," or a (usually family-owned) business conglomerate

    Sounds like the Japanese zaibatsu. The 'solution' was to replace them with keiretsu, which are essentially the same but with shareholders and a board of directors at top rather than dynastic ownership. The zaibatsu system was very popular back in the day, apparently.

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    1. Re:Sounds Familiar by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      The zaibatsu system was very popular back in the day, apparently.

      From my understanding, back in the Meiji period after the US forced Japan into opening borders and unequal trade agreements with gunboat diplomacy, Japan said 'screw this' and began on a rapid modernization campaign. They set out diplomats to plead their case and learn about the rest of the world including their governments and militaries, they sent out students to Europe and the US to learn everything they could to return to Japan and teach it there, and they went to successful business families and tasked them with the goal of turning Japan into a modern industrialized nation in return for full backing of the government. Those business families became the zaibatsu in a time well before Japan had publicly traded companies. 50 years later they were able to fight Russia to a standstill in a war and have renegotiated all their trade agreements while other Asian nations were suffering colonial control of Western nations.

  8. Re:Why do you lie? Rich people go to jail, too. by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're missing something important though. Ask yourself what all of those four rich people have in common and the answer is that their crimes were largely against other rich people. The aristocracy will always overlook the behavior of their peers towards the peasantry, but not the transgressions against their own. But even then the punishments are mild. No one was getting sent to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

  9. Re:Why do you lie? Rich people go to jail, too. by burtosis · · Score: 1

    Maybe he should have rephrased it to if a poor person and rich person do the same crime, the poor person is 500x more likely to do the time because that is closer to reality than rich people get the same justice as poor. In reality the poor can't commit the large finnancial and environmental disasters that the rich are so rarely if ever held to account.

  10. Re:Why do you lie? Rich people go to jail, too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Four examples doesn't mean the whole thing is nonsense. Its proven time and time again those with powerful lawyers who can drag a case out forever often get off for way less than someone without such means.

    Then there's that "affluenza" fuckstick.

  11. Re:Why do you lie? Rich people go to jail, too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How many Wall Streeters and bankers other than Madoff were jailed for their part in the collapse of the world economy in 2008?

    I can't think of any. A few CEOs were forced out of their jobs, with severance packages which were probably 500x the average salary of their banks' rank and file employees.

  12. South Korea is full of corruption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Somehow SK is viewed in the west as being less corrupt and full of bribes than China, but it's not true. I've lived here for nearly a decade, corruption is the name of the game in SK. This is no surprise, there was never going to be real penalties.

    1. Re:South Korea is full of corruption by MoaDweeb · · Score: 1

      China is 75th of 113 for Rule of Law, more than 50 places lower than SK.

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    2. Re: South Korea is full of corruption by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Rule of lawyers is worth nothing, unless you're a lawyer.

  13. Re:This is the way of the world by ShamblerBishop · · Score: 1

    They're the spiritual equivalent of a coked out jack russell happily running head first into a brick wall.

    Sounds like every conversation I've ever had about a persons devout religious beliefs.

  14. Re:Why do you lie? Rich people go to jail, too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Meanwhile Trump committed many, many instances of fraud against lower class people who fell for the Trump University scam. He wound up paying out over $25 million to settle lawsuits, but he did not go to jail.

    Wells Fargo committed millions of acts of fraud against lower class people and nobody went to jail.

    The subprime mortgage industry participated millions facts of fraud and nobody went to jail. In fact, the lower class tax payers were forced to bail them out to make sure they didn't even have to go bankrupt.

    Funny how that works. Screw over poor people and maybe you pay a fine which is less than what you gained or maybe you get handed a bunch of money to keep you from going bankrupt. Screw over someone wealthy, however, and you go to jail.

  15. Re:This is the way of the world by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I'd still prefer to put a slug through their skull instead of relying on some judgement that may or may not come.

    Thinking about it, divine justice for those bastards ain't much different from mundane judgement.

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  16. Re:rule of law in ROK, how does that work? by MoaDweeb · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to the World Justice Project South Korea has about a equal a 'rule of law' as the USA.
    US 18th, South Korea 19th.
    UK 10th, France 21st for some context.

    Filthy Scandi countries in their normal single digit positions :-)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  17. Punish with your purchase choices by DallasTruaxxx · · Score: 2

    If you don't like the fact that this guy was given clemency, then punish the corp. with your purchases. Buy someone else's stuff in stead. Stop relying upon some other government to punish corporate wrongdoing. If their profits drop, they will find out why, and then change their ways, or go under. "But that's not going to work, because people don't care enough about the lawfulness of corporations to actually change their buying decisions!" you say? Well, then it must not matter. So let it go. People are either smart enough to vote for the leaders who have their finger on the nuclear button, or they are not. They are either smart enough to vote with their dollars, or they are not. Make up your mind.

  18. Re:Why do you lie? Rich people go to jail, too. by sysrammer · · Score: 1

    Link leads to a page which doesn't state what you said, but does lead to a link to RT. Horror show, moy droogie.

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  19. Re:Why do you lie? Rich people go to jail, too. by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

    Exactly! Nice articulated and thought out! And why they went after Madoff, of course!

  20. View some of those excellent Korean TV series and by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

    movies to get a good grasp of their present highly-charged capitalist culture:
    Veteran
    Protect The Boss
    Prosecutor Princess
    Super Rookie
    The Unjust

  21. Re: Must be nice to write retarded headlines by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

    Good morning, Boris! How's the weather in Kiev today?

  22. Re: Why do you lie? Rich people go to jail, too. by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

    All of them. In Soviet America everyone is guilty. Feed the Gulag!

  23. Re:Why do you lie? Rich people go to jail, too. by stephenmac7 · · Score: 1

    You're linking to a page that talks about something completely different: unwillingness to divulge financial information of clients. That's pretty much completely unrelated to corruption. A more relevant list (sorry I don't know how to link to it with sorting by government integrity) will show us that Venezuela, Nigeria, Cambodia, Madagascar, and Somalia top the list of most corrupt.

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  24. There is *NO JUSTICE* in Korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Not only in North Korea, in South Korea too, the word 'Justice' has become a very very sick joke

    Money talks

    No matter who is in charge

    No matter who lives inside the Blue House (South Korea's Presidential Palace)

    Money talks

    The true rulers of South Korea are not the politicians

    The true rulers of South Korea are the chaebols

    Samsung Group, Hyundai Group, Lotte Group, LG Group, SK Group, and so on ... see the list @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_South_Korea ...

    No one dare to oppose the chaebols

    See for example, this incident --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nut_rage_incident

    The end result of the above case?

    "On May 22, 2015, in Seoul High Court, the daughter of the boss of the Korean Air was found not guilty of changing airline course"

    Sounds familiar?

  25. Bribe the right people by tbq · · Score: 1

    If you're going to go down for bribery make sure you remember to bribe the judges on the appeals court so that you can get your sentence reduced in a timely fashion.

  26. Re:See Equifax by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

    Gery Shalon is a much better example. Of course nearly no one is aware of the lawsuits against one of the biggest hackers ever and the fact that an Israeli newspaper reported he already has a plea deal to walk, because US mainstream media doesn't talk about it.

    It really is good to be king.