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Detroit Decides Against Banning Airbnb -- For Now (detroitnews.com)

Building officials say they will not enforce an apparent city ban of some Airbnb rentals until there is a legal review of an ordinance that went into effect this week. Detroit News reports: The ordinance, approved by the Detroit City Council in November, prohibits an owner-occupied-unit to be used for paid overnight guests. According to information listed online in the Detroit City Code, the rule went into effect Feb. 6, catching some city officials by surprise.

"Detroit homeowners have been able to rent out a room in their homes for more than 100 years, and we don't believe the new ordinance was intended to take away that right," said David Bell, director of the Buildings, Safety Engineering & Environmental Department for the City of Detroit, in a statement Friday. "The ordinance as written appears to ban all homeowners from having even their own friends and relatives stay at their homes if that friend or relative is paying them rent. The public was never told that was intended. I have asked the law department to review this question and give (the department) guidance." "Until the law department review is complete, (the department) will not be ticketing homeowners for renting out rooms in their own residence, whether through Airbnb or otherwise," Bell said. "(The department) and the administration will be working with City Council to resolve these issues."

37 comments

  1. Sounds like voters got pissed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pols: This is to protect our votes (when it's really a sop to some special interest...)

    Voters: Like hell it is!

  2. Tongue in Cheek by DaMattster · · Score: 0

    This is a little tongue in cheek but Detroit is not high up on my list of places that I would want to visit anyway. If I did go there, I would stay in a hotel versus in someone's house.

    1. Re: Tongue in Cheek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We do a lot of work in the area, and no one ever stays in Detroit. Get up to Gratiot or farther north, or go out to 275 to the west.

    2. Re: Tongue in Cheek by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Well some people have to stay in Detroit. If you die you have to go to hell, and if you die in hell you have to go to Detroit.

    3. Re:Tongue in Cheek by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      This is a little tongue in cheek but Detroit is not high up on my list of places that I would want to visit anyway.

      But keep in mind that Detroit's knee-jerk anti-business government, as demonstrated by this ordinance, is the reason that Detroit is such a SH to begin with.

      With 10% unemployment, they should be welcoming economic opportunities rather than pushing them away.

    4. Re: Tongue in Cheek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get up to Gratiot or farther north

      Wow, really narrowing it down there, are you? Gratiot runs northeast right out of downtown, so even places like Ford Field are farther north than Gratiot. Perhaps you meant a different road?

    5. Re:Tongue in Cheek by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure the almost universal reaction to this story is shock that Detroit has any BnBs to begin with.

      Top reviews:

      I'm a huge nostalgia nut, so I loved how they went out of their way to make it look like a burned-out, abandoned Victorian home. The actors pretending to be crackheads really added to the flavor too. 5 stars!

      I loved how our room came stocked with an ample supply of ammo and bandages. Will definitely recommend to friends!

      The service was top-notch. The owners went out of their way to stay with me at the hospital after I drank some water straight out of the tap.

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    6. Re:Tongue in Cheek by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      With 10% unemployment

      I think you misread the stat there. It said 10% employment.

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    7. Re:Tongue in Cheek by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      Creating a legislative balance between someone being able to rent their investment residence vs some dick turning their investment into a weekly party house and fuck the neighbours (hell force them to sell and buy cheap). Yup, pretty much greedy psychopathic arseholes fuck everything up for everyone else, pretty much all of the fucking time and force a whole range or regulations to keep the criminal freaks under control. We could test for them early, it's genetic and 'abort' the problem before it becomes one, a whole whack of regulations would disappear when they disappear.

      So greedy dickheads force all sort of regulations to constrain them and tie the rest of us up in paper work.

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  3. The Law of Unintended Consequences by rotorbudd · · Score: 1

    As demonstrated by this ordinance, approved by the Detroit City Council.

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    1. Re:The Law of Unintended Consequences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or it's a demonstration of Escrat's Theorem of Entirely Predictable Hysteria.

      If Somebody Can Get Upset, They Likely Will Get Upset.

      Fortunately, the cure is to make sure you have all your ducks in a row, your geese in a triangle, and your swans in a Klemperer rosette.

      It's nothing that the regulatory systems aren't familiar with, it's a continued problem that they regularly address.

    2. Re:The Law of Unintended Consequences by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      Doing legal reviews before enacting an ordinance is probably a good practice for them to consider in the future.

    3. Re:The Law of Unintended Consequences by Rockoon · · Score: 0

      This is the city council in action.

      It speaks for itself what happens in these democrat shitholes.

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  4. appy apps by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    Can we not get modern 'appy app' business ideas that HELP neighborhoods in some way instead of causing problems for them?

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    1. Re:appy apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NO!

      Firstly, it might offend someone. Secondly, it'll cause problems to big business.

  5. AirBBnb? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 0

    That's clever. Detroit doesn't ban Airbbnb, but they might ban Airbnb.

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  6. Flim Springfield by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 0

    Flim Springfield

    1. Re:Flim Springfield by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The extra B is for BBYOB!

  7. So who got paid? by rsilvergun · · Score: 0

    because this is way, way too much of an about face for anything else.

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  8. Surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, am shocked that Detroit's city council is filled with short-sighted idiots. Shocked!

  9. Sounds like they jumped the gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They passed an ordinance without holding public hearings where all interested parties could weigh in. Had they done that, they might still have passed a ban, but with many exclusions for customary (pre-Airbnb) arrangements.

  10. Corporate bro jobs by MikeMixer · · Score: 0

    Nothing says I suck rich dick more than standing up for the hospitality industry in your town

  11. And a whole one person even cared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because who visits Detroit by choice? If you're visiting Detroit it is probably because of work. In that case work better be paying for you to at stay at something at least in the class of an Embasy Suites.

    1. Re: And a whole one person even cared by wolfie_cr · · Score: 1

      Please learn how to spell embassy

    2. Re:And a whole one person even cared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because who visits Detroit by choice? If you're visiting Detroit it is probably because of work. In that case work better be paying for you to at stay at something at least in the class of an Embasy Suites.

      And preferably a hotel with protections similar to "The Green Zone" in Baghdad.....

  12. Hotel Business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm assuming that this was pushed through by lobbyists acting on behalf of Hotel's.

    Airbnb is great, cheaper than hotels and spreads people throughout the city (when there is a big event on, and I imagine Detroit has some large automotive conferences), it reduces congestion and reduces business's ability to hike prices on those days.

    This law to me, seems to want to place that money in big corporations and conglomerates, rather than people that actually live in the city.

    If it's a Taxis, Hotels, Space Travel, Banks or Supermarkets it's time we stopped feeding those fat cats, and as a consumer pick the things which send our money to the most people!

    1. Re:Hotel Business by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Most city councilmen in Detroit hold an auction once a month for their vote. Last month, the hotels won.

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    2. Re:Hotel Business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing Airbnb does when it lands into a city is to skyrocket rental prices for the locals who have to live in there for working reasons, because those economically able to own more than one house/flat will better rent the house to a Swiss or Norwegian tourist for 100.- euro per day instead to rent it for 500-600.- euro per month to a local.

      People living there who are unable to buy a house will now have to go live 30-50 km from their jobs because now will be also unable to find a rent.

      Truth is that Airbnb only benefits a few individuals while screws the opportunities of everyone else. All this while making illegal competence to legit business as hotels or guests houses, who are of course forced to pay business taxes and city taxes that the Airbnb players are of course avoiding by using a parallel economy that ends up in absolute no contribution to its environment and society.

      I mean: we can say we love libertarianism and we hate taxes and we love the freedom of individuals to get rich and all that bullshit, but please don't dress crappy-appy new-righty-age businesses like Airbnb like some kind of society saviours that fights against privileged, because that is just lies, carrot-pursuing and plain bullshit (like everything else in right-libertarian ideology, anyway).

  13. Translation ... by John+Jorsett · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "I have asked the law department to review this question and give (the department) guidance."

    Translation: We've gotten enormous blowback and are scurrying for some face-saving way to roll this back before the torch-and-pitchfork crowd descends on us.

    1. Re:Translation ... by Aighearach · · Score: 0

      The reason your analysis is so weak is that you think of the gubermint as one entity, but clearly here the City Council did something stupid without talking to the City employees, and those City Employees are not "saving face" at all; they're doing a totally different thing called "covering their own asses." If they can get the lawyers, who are a third independent group here, to say that the ordinance is illegal then they aren't permitted to enforce it. And then they're the heros who saved Detroit. From the City Council. Who looks worst in that scenario, of all the possible outcomes. So very far from "face-saving" behavior. No matter what the lawyers say, the City Council looks worse by having done the review this late in the process.

      It is almost as if the City workers are punishing the City Council for passing such a transparently stupid and poorly written law!

  14. My vacation to downtown Detroit is back on! by blahbooboo · · Score: 1

    Can't wait! My trip back to beautiful Detroit with it's many tourist sites is back on!

  15. Do you want to die? Then continue onto my property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To the city of Detroit: Do you want to die? Then continue onto my property without my permission. I will utilize whatever means are at my disposal to defend myself and my property against uninvited persons and government(s). I don't know where you live- but here in New Hampshire I have every right to defend myself from rouge uninvited parties who trespass on my property. I have every right to *DENY* government entry and our legal system backs that up in law. Governments here tried to fuck with our constitutional rights after a terrible supreme court ruling years ago that decided that governments can mandate inspections and the like of private property. Fortunately New Hampshire saw the light and in part thanks to Free State Project participants we got the law changed to fix that so the city governments could come into our homes without warrant to "inspect".

  16. "Take Him To Detroit!" "Noooo!" by BlueStrat · · Score: 1

    See Subject.

    https://youtu.be/bVDDYQlmq0w

    Strat

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  17. Government controlling businesses... by mi · · Score: 1

    The ordinance, approved by the Detroit City Council in November, prohibits an owner-occupied-unit to be used for paid overnight guests.

    Government controlling businesses is Fascism. Just saying... "Pursuit of happiness" my tail.

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  18. Too many houses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember a few years back they were trying to entice people to buy old houses for 1k.  If the ban goes through, you can be sure people will upgrade and leave those places.

  19. Land of the free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where you don't even have control over your own "property". Americans are some of the most freedom hating people on earth.