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'Razer Doesn't Care About Linux' (gnome.org)

An anonymous reader shares a blog post: Razer is a vendor that makes high-end gaming hardware, including laptops, keyboards and mice. I opened a ticket with Razor a few days ago asking them if they wanted to support the LVFS project by uploading firmware and sharing the firmware update protocol used. I offered to upstream any example code they could share under a free license, or to write the code from scratch given enough specifications to do so. This is something I've done for other vendors, and doesn't take long as most vendor firmware updaters all do the same kind of thing; there are only so many ways to send a few kb of data to USB devices. The fwupd project provides high-level code for accessing USB devices, so yet-another-update-protocol is no big deal. I explained all about the LVFS, and the benefits it provided to a userbase that is normally happy to vote using their wallet to get hardware that's supported on the OS of their choice. I just received this note on the ticket, which was escalated appropriately: "I have discussed your offer with the dedicated team and we are thankful for your enthusiasm and for your good idea. I am afraid I have also to let you know that at this moment in time our support for software is only focused on Windows and Mac." The post, written by Richard -- who has long been a maintainer of GNOME Software, PackageKit, GNOME Packagekit, points out that Razer executive Min-Liang Tan last year invited Linux enthusiasts to suggest ideas to help the company make the best notebook that supports Linux.

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  1. Not contradictory statements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would like to learn to read music this year, and welcome suggestions on how to do so, but I'm a bit busy this month, and my focus is not on that task at the moment.

  2. Re:Must all vendors support Linux? by Narcocide · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly none of them have to "support" Linux aside from coughing up some documentation. Sending an email to claim they don't have the man power to send an email is a pretty obnoxious way to lie about it.

  3. Razer what? why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is this the same Razer that requires you create an account on their site just to use a mouse? If so who cares? This company is total shit anyway.

    1. Re: Razer what? why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It is worse than that. Their software is cloud based.

      So for example, to change the keyboard lights or mouse lights or mouse function buttons or use anything besides basic 2-button HID mouse:

      1) Set up an account on Razer
      2) Have client software running on windows.
      3) Have holes in firewall so that client can connect
      4) Your settings, for your local mouse/KB mouse, are stored in the cloud.
      5) If it loses connection to the cloud you can't change any of your settings.
      6) IIRC it requires cloud access on startup, otherwise it loads default profile.

      FOR. A. MOUSE.
      Never again.

  4. Razer keyboards are not high-end by Misagon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Razer is not seen as "high-end" within the high-end keyboard community.
    Their mechanical keyboards would better be described as "entry-level" into the world of mechanical keyboards.

    The build materials are cheap. They have gimmicky features.
    Most of all, their marketing is atrocious, misleading and often borderline fraudulent.

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    "We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
  5. Re:ROCCAT cares about Linux. by Cederic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You assume the docs exist. You assume the docs are in distributable form. You assume the docs are written in a readable manner. You assume the docs don't contain important secret stuff.

    Just validating those assumptions takes up the time of skilled experienced staff that the companies have already committed to to delivering other work.

    So are you willing to pay $200k to cover the cost, opportunity cost and losses due to disruption that diverting this resource would require?

    Just that, you seem willing for the companies involved to incur those costs.

  6. Re:Must all vendors support Linux? by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux (the OS not the kernel, as opposed to Android which is a different is with a Linux kernel) isn’t really setup for the consumer market. It works as a server OS and a workstation OS. But it never caught on for the general public.
    This makes Linux a waste of resources for gaming companies.
    Say 5% uses Linux at home. 85% of this group will be willing to use non-open source software. 50% of this group is interested in serious gaming. 25% of this group may be interested in their products...

    For gaming it is a tough business model to be Linux friendly. Not impossible but it takes a lot of effort and resources for a small return.

    It isn’t that Linux can’t do it, it is that not enough people are using it to make it with the effort.

    Razor employees may love Linux. But they can not justify the expense in supporting it. And digging all the legal to make things open enough for the community to do something about it.

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    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  7. Re:Must all vendors support Linux? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you one of those developers who never write documentation?
    Or how do you come to the idea that writing documentation (and dealing with questions) requires no man power?

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    Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.