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New Data Shows Netflix's Number of Movies Has Gone Down By Thousands of Titles Since 2010 (businessinsider.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Business Insider: If you thought Netflix's movie selection had been lacking lately, you're right. The streaming service's amount of movies has dipped by over 2,000 titles since 2010, while its number of TV shows has nearly tripled. Third-party Netflix search engine Flixable compiled data that shows a dramatic shift in Netflix's priorities in recent years. In 2010, Netflix had 530 TV shows compared to 6,755 movies. Now, in 2018, the amount of TV shows has nearly tripled to 1,569, and the amount of movies offered has decreased to 4,010. It's no secret that Netflix has focused more on TV shows and less on movies in recent years, but now we have a visual representation of just how significant that focus has become.

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  1. This isn't Netflix's fault by xevioso · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The major movie studios and content owners did not want to see Netflix become another Apple iTunes, which would allow them to set the prices of movies and have control over content distribution, so raised the licensing fees to astronomical levels. And of course, players like Disney saw how controlling the content distribution in this way could be very profitable, and they have no intention of making those sorts of deals again. the genie is out of the bottle and it is not going back in.

    But that's fine. The original offerings from Netflix are often amazing, so it's no big loss.

    1. Re: This isn't Netflix's fault by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nevermind that, serialized (TV) shows have massively improved in content quality. Even if they had the money and the technology, they wouldn't have done shows like they're doing now, rather the studios would have just saved that talent for feature length content.

      Meanwhile, most high budget movies have been big disappointments over the last 5 years.

    2. Re: This isn't Netflix's fault by rmdingler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Meanwhile, most high budget movies have been big disappointments over the last 5 years.

      This. Although it's true audiences have gravitated toward the binge afforded to Netflix users, there has been a considerable dearth of quality movies of late, with Hollywood productions long on sequel, and short on innovative, thought-provoking releases.

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    3. Re:This isn't Netflix's fault by josquin9 · · Score: 2

      I haven't seen a video rental store in some time, though. Just Redbox with their few dozen titles at most of the grocery stores around here. I'm sure there still are video rental stores somewhere, but most of the small ones were bought out by the big chains, and then the big chains closed most of their stores when Netflix and Amazon prime became popular. The "long tail" is gone in many areas. It's almost impossible to find DVD's to rent that are more than a year old. Amazon offers some older titles, but charge two to three times what the local stores used to. Sure, you can watch a movie in minutes, but your microwave popcorn doesn't show up for two days.

    4. Re:This isn't Netflix's fault by hondo77 · · Score: 2

      Are you kidding? Have you seen what Disney charges for their movies on iTunes? They charge premium prices for their Marval, Lucasfilm, and animated hit movies and they are rarely on sale (and their sale prices are still not deeply discounted).

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    5. Re:This isn't Netflix's fault by Cederic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Whether it's their fault or not, it cost them my subscription a few years ago and I'm seeing nothing that justifies signing back up.

      I don't want 'original content', I want access to all content, at a reasonable price.

    6. Re:This isn't Netflix's fault by SNRatio · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's Netflix's intent. Lower costs, higher discoverability, more hours of content for people to binge.

      Meanwhile, good video stores are topping 50,000 titles

      How are you defining discoverability? Netflix's app seems ruthlessly dedicated to limiting the number of titles anyone sees.

    7. Re: This isn't Netflix's fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Meanwhile in the bargain bin you can find $4 Blu-ray copies of the very same Disney movies.

    8. Re: This isn't Netflix's fault by turp182 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Netflix is changing the "interest dynamic" (plot speed).

      About 50% of Walking Dead episodes are filler, pushing commercials, not plot. I won't comment on show timing or season length (Netflix understands this perfectly).

      HBO seems to do this as well with Game of Thrones. I'm not sure why.

      But Netflix shows like Stranger Things and Luke Cage, move the plot along a lot every single episode. It's simply better entertainment.

      And yeah, studios are waking up but Netflix is spending more than any of them on original content.

      But they still have recent stuff by other production companies (for now), Rouge One, Moana (kids), Planet Earth 2 (this is recommended to me because I watched Stranger Things...), American Horror Story, etc.

      Disney's service will be successful, because... kids. But Netflix will win, they show the Human Centipede and Phineas and Ferb (for kids). The whole gamut.

      And offline download is freaking awesome! I don't pirate anymore.

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    9. Re: This isn't Netflix's fault by mjwx · · Score: 2

      Meanwhile, most high budget movies have been big disappointments over the last 5 years.

      I agree with the TV shows bit, but that has always been the norm for the film industry. Sturgeons law is very conservative in that context (80% of everything is crap), I'd say 95%+ of everything the film industry produces is dross and it's paid for by the less than 5% of stuff that isn't. The difference is that hollywood cant control the internet as it used to control movie reviews, so average people are able to find out a film is crap before seeing it. India, Nigeria and China which are now bigger industries than the American film industry, have at least compensated for this by making cheaper movies.

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    10. Re: This isn't Netflix's fault by azadrozny · · Score: 2

      Shows like the Walking Dead have to fit into a very specific box due to legacy broadcasting paradigms. The network orders a specific number of shows and expects them to fit neatly into a 30 or 60 minute time slot. You might only have enough story for 12 episodes, but you have to make 20. And too bad that you don't have time to show that epic fight scene, or long character speech. You can't go over 44 minutes divided into 4 acts for commercial breaks.

      The Netflix model allows the show producer to write the exact number of episodes it takes to tell the story. Episode lengths can vary, to allow the writers the opportunity to tell a proper story, while keeping the length manageable to the viewer. Given what I have seen with most Netflix and HBO series, they probably start with target of 10 one hour episodes per season, and adjust as they map it all out.

    11. Re: This isn't Netflix's fault by Rakarra · · Score: 2

      The network orders a specific number of shows and expects them to fit neatly into a 30 or 60 minute time slot. You might only have enough story for 12 episodes, but you have to make 20

      Lost got a lot better when they pushed back against the network requirements for 23 shows/year and trimmed down to 16-episodes or so. Granted, the plot eventually got torpedoed anyway, but the first three seasons have a TON of filler and slow-moving plot.

      I had hoped that Game of Thrones would get better by cutting back from 10 to 7 episodes in the season, but it was not served well by the change. The overall writing took a dip in quality, but the rushed nature of the storytelling also hid how much time passed and made some developments feel like they happened too quickly.

    12. Re: This isn't Netflix's fault by azadrozny · · Score: 2

      I think the Game of Thrones TV series is suffering the same problem as the books. There is a lot of material, and a lot of characters. It is very difficult to tell such a complex story, allowing the reader/watcher to connect the dots. I applaud the epic nature of the story, but think they need to drop a bunch of the subplots.

  2. Old News by dodgerfan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is old news. This same headline pops up every year. Netflix has to find it's own way with original content.

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  3. Re:Most was crap that won't be missed by many by RatBastard · · Score: 3, Informative

    The problem is that it's the crap that's staying. While Pacific Rim disappears, Atlantic Rim stays. Just look in any of the genre categories: mountains of garbage and few, if any, remaining gems. The main reason I even have a subscription anymore is that my wife watches a few programs on it.

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  4. You kniow by bobstreo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd trade every Disney movie for more Daredevil and Jessica Jones.

    The best thing Netflix did was oicking up Longmire.

    I wish they'd do it for other shows that were abruptly cancelled that ended on cliffhangers and needed a lot more episodes to finish their story arcs...

    1. Re:You kniow by xevioso · · Score: 2

      Except Daredevil and Jessica Jones are Marvel, and so are owned by Disney. Disney can't just remove it to their own streaming platform when it debuts, presumably, but they probably won't license any new shows with characters they own unless it will appear exclusively on Disney.

  5. Yes, the concept is dead. Back to local rentals. by Optic7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Netflix initially gave us the dream that we could pay $10, even $20 a month and have access to most (or even just a significant number) of the movies that we would be interested in watching. That has effectively come true for most music, but not for movies. It was unfortunately not to be once the movie content owners decided to hike their licensing prices or outright deny Netflix in favor of starting their own streaming services.

    It's kind of understandable, once everyone realized that Netflix was a threat to the content owners (too much power over them, similar to what iTunes had over music companies back in the day - the movie companies learned their lesson from the music companies). Netflix also realized this and that the content owners were also a threat to them and started investing massively in producing their own exclusive content as a defense.

    The result, at least for us, was our rejoining our local DVD/Bluray rental store. We were very lucky that they were still around and had a great selection of the movies we wanted to watch. The selection of movies is night and day - Netflix has 10% of the movies we want to watch and the local store has maybe 80% or more.

    Before you say that we could also do the Netflix disc rental service, we used to have that but ended up paying through the nose for each individual rental because of how long we kept them. Also, I don't think even Netflix disc rental selection compares to the local store anymore. Besides, it feels better (and it's in our best interest) to support a local small business rather than a multinational corporation.

  6. Not just streaming by markdavis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This isn't just streaming. I use disc service also and now have over a dozen moves waiting in my queue with "Unknown" as the availability. Some for over a YEAR NOW. Most aren't even obscure, like Matrix Revolutions and Gladiator. Really? Some dork broke/lost/stole a disc and now Netflix won't even replace it with at least one copy???

    1. Re:Not just streaming by luther349 · · Score: 2

      the issue is those older movies are out of print so they cant order replacement disk from the studio. rember they dont buy there disk from Walmart they pay a fee for the studios to provide the disk and to replace lost and stolen copys. it sounds like as i said the studio isnt holding up there end of the deal.

    2. Re:Not just streaming by Mousit · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This isn't just streaming. I use disc service also and now have over a dozen moves waiting in my queue with "Unknown" as the availability.

      I currently have about 80 movies in the "Unknown" availability section, and you're right, plenty of them are not in any way small or obscure. Several of them have literally been "Unknown" for over five years. I even have one that was released in 2005 and it's still unknown availability.

      However, it's even worse than that. Since the beginning of 2018 (almost on the dot, Jan 1st), even the movies that ARE in the supposedly-available part of the disc queue, they all list as "Short wait" on my queue, rather than actually available to ship immediately.

      I don't know what Netflix's definition of a "short" wait is, but I haven't received any of those since the start of the year. It reached the point that, if I wanted to actually GET any disc service I'm fucking paying for (yeah, even if they don't ship you anything, you still pay), I had to review my streaming queue and add all those movies to my disc queue too. Wouldn't you know, streamable movies are all available for immediate-ship as discs too. No "short wait" on any of those.

      The timing of this right at the start of the year makes me feel like this was something deliberate, their latest attempt to sabotage the disc service to justify ending it. I mean I can see a lot of people having that thought, "Why pay for disc service when all I'm receiving are movies I could just stream anyway?" I don't know if it's different for anyone else, but I sure can't get any non-streamable movies in the last two months.

    3. Re:Not just streaming by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would guess that Netflix has closed a lot of distribution centers for discs and has drastically changed their disc acquisition and replacement rates, which results in a smaller number of discs available to remaining disc customers.

      IMHO, the dream was the entire movie universe was available -- you were no longer limited by the local stores limited inventory. Now I guess that's over.

    4. Re:Not just streaming by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      My library does DVD rentals also. Hollywood can't stop them because once they buy the disc, they are free to do with it as they please. They can rent it out for free to thousands of people without giving Hollywood a single extra cent.

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  7. Trash. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Disney would have to offer more than Netflix and cheaper for me to consider them. I like Netflix and I am totally against the way the movie cartels are trying to recreate the very thing I hated and the very thing Netflix disrupted - packaged silos of content requiring multiple channels for huge subscription rates. I've got a mortgage, I need a new car and many other things I need to spend my money on before I go into this frivolous bullshit and make multimillionaires, who pander to social causes without helping, richer. The entertainment industry is a fucking parasite of professional liars and perverts. Fuck them.

  8. True, but I wish we'd stop letting Disney by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    buy everything. The complete lack of any anti-trust enforcement combined with the out of control levels of wealth at the top means the 1% just keep buying up everything. It's not big loss now, but in 10 years I could see Disney buying out Netflix. Bring enough money to the table and anything's possible. And we seem to be letting them have that money.

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  9. Who would have tought by fred6666 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let me predict the future again. Netflix will raise prices, and offer crappier content. This will happen as long as they win more market share. If they become a dominant player, they will be just as ugly as cable and satellite.

    1. Re:Who would have tought by Calydor · · Score: 2

      And as it gets more and more difficult to obtain a movie through legal means, people will pirate more and more as the pirates ONCE AGAIN deliver a superior product.

      Or, you know. A product.

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