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NRA Gives Ajit Pai 'Courage Award' and Gun For 'Saving the Internet' (arstechnica.com)

The National Rifle Association (NRA) today gave its Charlton Heston Courage Under Fire Award to Ajit Pai, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission. "Pai was about to speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Maryland when the award presentation seemed to catch him by surprise," reports Ars Technica. "The award is a handmade long gun that could not be brought on stage, so it will be housed in the NRA museum until Pai can receive it." From the report: "Ajit Pai, as you probably already know, saved the Internet," American Conservative Union (ACU) Executive Director Dan Schneider told the audience. The ACU is the host of CPAC; Schneider made a few more remarks praising Pai before handing the award presentation over to NRA board member Carolyn Meadows. Pai "fought to preserve your free speech rights" as a member of the FCC's Republican minority during the Obama administration, Schneider said. Pai "fought and won against all odds, but the Obama administration had some curveballs and they implemented these regulations to take over the Internet." "As soon as President Trump came into office, President Trump asked Ajit Pai to liberate the Internet and give it back to you," Schneider added. "Ajit Pai is the most courageous, heroic person that I know."

The signature achievement that helped Pai win the NRA courage award came in December when the FCC voted to eliminate net neutrality rules. The rules, which are technically still on the books for a while longer, prohibited Internet service providers from blocking and throttling lawful Internet traffic and from charging online services for prioritization. Schneider did not explain how eliminating net neutrality rules preserved anyone's "free speech rights."
Right Wing Watch posted a video of the ceremony.

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  1. Wow by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just wow. I really hope these motherfuckers have a good view of each other when they're burning in hell.

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    1. Re:Wow by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is no justice but what we make. Instead of wishing for some deity that likely doesn't exist, or is at best indifferent, work to turn them out of power. Donate to the groups that support net neutrality like the Electronic Frontier Foundation https://www.eff.org/, and support candidates who will work on net neutrality and sane gun laws. Right now, approximately most Americans support background checks for buying guns http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/374692-poll-97-percent-support-background-checks-for-all-gun-buyers. You can help out with both these issues by donating to Conor Lamb's election https://conorlamb.com/. Lamb is running as the Democrat in Pennsylvania's 18th district for the upcoming special election to replace Tim Murphy. Lamb is in favor of net neutrality and is in favor sensible gun restrictions. He's a former Marine, and a former prosecutor, which gives him a healthy appreciation for guns (and let's be honest many Dems probably can't tell the difference between different guns other than that if they look scary they must be an "assault weapon"). He's a reasonable moderate and is running in a close election. Don't hope for hell, work to put better people in charge.

    2. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >they have ZERO idea that they are living in an opposite-world of reality

      Nope. They know damn well wtf they are doing. Playing dumb is a very effective strategy.

      Continuing to insist down is up creates doubt in reality that can be exploited. Milions of people are buying what they are selling.

      It's that "I see four lights!" shit.

    3. Re:Wow by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I know 1984 was about the extreme left, but these days the Newspeak seems to be coming from the other side (saving the internet, fake news, alternative facts, clean coal, ... the list grows every day).

      Curious, I always thought it was a parable of the resurrection of ultra right-wing Nazism..

      It wasn't about the left or the right it was about extreme authoritarianism.

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    4. Re:Wow by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What happened to that wounded security guard who was first to confront the gunman in Las Vegas? Shouldn't he be the one getting the 'courage award' from the NRA?

      Aji Pai will be getting millions for fucking over the American people. And now, he's getting around the clock protection from the Secret Service. What he did doesn't require courage.

      That security guard in Vegas, on the other hand, was probably getting paid barely above minimum wage for confronting a gunman with multiple assault weapons.

    5. Re:Wow by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The NRA award is stupid because what Ajit Pai did was harming the Internet rather than saving it.

      Anyway, the most ridiculous thing about this is that the Internet is a world-wide network that Pai or even the whole FCC couldn't possibly either save or destroy, whichever they decide to prefer. They simply can't do any of that. All they can do is to screw up the Internet for Americans.

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    6. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      These are not related issues

      You are literally commenting on an article about the NRA (that's guns, dumbass) has given an award to Ajit Pai (that's net neutrality, dumber ass).

      That must be among the top ten most unspeakably stupid comments of the last week on Slashdot. Possibly even the last year.

    7. Re: Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not civil war over the internet, it's guns, it's the environment, increasing the debt to give money to rich people, it's the fact that medicine and education, which are necessary to live, are becoming too expensive to have. The theme is to take everything to give to one group and leave scorched earth behind. It isn't just greed, it's unsustainable absorbing of everything from everywhere. Mosquitoes bite and have a meal, these suck until the corpse is bone dry.

      I am sorry, but I don't want a mad max future for our schools where everyone is armed. You know they already had school drills for shootings in florida and still people died, right? And with net neutrality gone, you get whatever content your internet provider lets you have, like the cable company. Sorry, you didn't buy the youtube/facebook package, just the wikipedia one. That's another $29.95 per month.

      And sure, let's do more offshore drilling and slick our beaches with oil and either kill or make inedible our remaining fish. Great idea! And while we are at it, we can forcibly export a third of my classmates to Mexico. They may have lived here for as long as they can remember, but whatever. At least they won't get shot in their new Mexican school.

      This gift of a gun from one group actively destroying our country to another actively destroying and then a speech by consevatives praising their destruction shows they all sip drinks down at the local country club together. They are actively plotting the destruction of our country. If that is not a reason for civil war, I don't know what is.

      But let's try voting these assholes out first. Internet shame them for their positions. Call out the lies and double speak. They say they are making things better, or "great again". But these are crimes and they need to be documented and prosecuted. And if that doesn't work, the guns will follow.

    8. Re: Wow by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That was the name they gave themselves, yes. Can't recall a whole lot of socialist policies though. Any more than the "communist" regimes in China and the Soviet union showed any trace of actual communism. ("Workers own the means of production" is not compatible with "Government owns the means of production, and workers have no voice" - that's Fascism, plain and simple.)

      Authoritarian governments will march under whatever flag will raise the rabble to put them in power - Socialism, Communism, Capitalism, doesn't matter which -ism is on the flag, it's just a flag. The truth is in the actual government policy.

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    9. Re:Wow by Rob+Y. · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, this just clinches it. Apparently there is no principle behind 'conservative' positions today other than "we've decided where the lines are, and we stand on the opposite side from the people we don't like - no matter the issue or the practical implications". It's all - and only - about tribalism. And the tribes are being organized and defined by moneyed interests who know how to manipulate them. Congratulations, America.

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    10. Re: Wow by acrimonious+howard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Authoritarian governments will march under whatever flag

      This. Although, just to note,

      It wasn't about the left or the right it was about extreme authoritarianism.

      The only numbers I've seen show that the last 20 years, the Republicans have officially put their hat in the ring for title 'the authoritarian party'. https://www.washingtonpost.com...

      Donald "I can shoot someone in Manhattan" Trump did after all win bigly with the R's.

      I know I'll get downvotes for "bias", but I'm sorry, these are just facts. I'm willing to be convinced with opposing numbers, please show them.

  2. I'm sorry to say, by jenningsthecat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that I honestly laughed at this. It came across so powerfully as a funny parody, and I found myself laughing both before and after I realized that they're actually fucking serious. There are no words. Stick a fork in the ass of American social discourse and turn it over, because it is well and truly done.

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  3. Not The Onion? by HangingChad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At first I thought this had to be an Onion piece. The two most corrupt dirtbags, in the most corrupt political system outside a third world dictatorship, giving each other a hand job at CPAC.

    This is the pathetic level to which conservatives have sunk.

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  4. Guns, the obvious solution by burtosis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It should be obvious by now that guns didn't save our net neutrality, nor have they been saving us from a steady erosion of rights and freedom. Unfortunately, the fact this isn't obvious to many is the reason we have the problem. If things keep going this way, in 50 years autonomous weapon systems will render guns completely worthless with respect to resisting the government which was supposed to be the point.

  5. What does the NRA have to do with the FCC? by Jeremi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    AFACT, absolutely nothing, other than that they both hold policy positions that antagonize liberals.

    The fact that they are giving each other awards suggests to me that the only thing holding the Republican Party together these days is their collective urge to "piss on the other team".

    Fun, in a sort of Lord-of-the-Flies, junior-high-locker-room-towel-snapping sort of way, but not exactly a viable long-term philosophy for running a first-world country. Hopefully when the Republicans get their asses handed to them by voters this fall they will remember that they are expected to serve the country's interests, not just snap towels at the nerds.

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  6. Yes, stick to your purpose by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't imagine why the NRA would do this. The NRA has a very specific purpose. Well actually there are two NRA groups, each with a specific purpose. One does gun-related safety training and such, the other defends the second amendment in the political arena. Neither has any business taking a stand on any particular regulations related to things around principles of network neutrality. It's not what they were created and funded to do.

    1. Re:Yes, stick to your purpose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The ACLU does a pretty decent job. It just defends all the unpopular parts of the constitution, like the first amendment, and stuff like the right not to be shot just because you're black, that kind of thing. It's entirely reasonable it doesn't defend the 2nd given the modern interpretation of that amendment isn't how it's traditionally been interpreted up until the mid-seventies.

    2. Re: Yes, stick to your purpose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      The NRA is the lobby for gun manufacturers. Nothing more nothing less

      Yes, those 5 million-plus dues-paying voluntary NRA members mean nothing.

      And I'm sure you'll be left puzzled as to why the Democrats will lose even more elected government positions next election cycle. Don't worry, there's always REEEERussiaaaaaa!!!!1!! to blame so you can avoid any uncomfortable self-reflection.

      The Left hates guns. Except apparently their trusty old foot-gun.

    3. Re:Yes, stick to your purpose by Freischutz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Net Neutrality did not regulate speech. It stipulated rules that prevented internet providers from regulating it.

      That's funny, because I'm pretty sure the social media giants - and even wikipedia - were doing a pretty decent job of regulating speech with these magical rules in place.

      If that is true and if that pisses you off you are perfectly free to set up your own platform on a free internet. On an internet where internet providers have total freedom able to throttle the traffic to and from sites for whatever reason they see fit to do so they'd be free to throttle your new alternative platform into oblivion. That is the difference between a world with net neutrality and a world where corporate oligarchs have a carte blanche on muzzling you without having to justify why they chose to do so and apparently the NRA thinks we are better off with this latter option. Net neutrality is not a right/left issue, it should be of paramount concern to everybody across the political spectrum.

  7. The New Brown Shirts by DumbSwede · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Listening to CPAC on CSPAN today I couldn’t believe how deranged these people all seem. I really feel like the NRA was threatening armed insurrection if Donald Trump is removed from office. Core beliefs: there is no Global Warming (or doesn’t matter much); Democrats and liberals are part of a Socialist plot to take all our rights away; immigrants are destroying our culture; everyone who needs (deserves) healthcare will have it (only lucky well-paid working people deserve it); luck and privilege are not factors in obtaining wealth, only hard work is.

    When Trump goes down (and he will) I fear what these groups will do. They’ve made it clear what their guns are for when push comes to shove.

    1. Re:The New Brown Shirts by DumbSwede · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So I said I fear. You have now shown I should fear. Way to vividly validate my points. BTW by going down I meant impeachment, at some point even Republicans won't be able to stomach this administration.

  8. Fascism at work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here you have it folks, a perfect example of fascism at work. Corporations slowly but surely establishing their power over governement and the people. Legislators, media, weapons, etc. All the tools necessary to enforce totalitarism.

    And they'll succeed, too, because a little more than half of the population are too ignorant, clueless and gullible to see what's going on.

    "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". And these days, I see a hell of a lot of good men doing a hell of a lot of nothing.

  9. Will make it extra ironic... by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ...when digital stream services start dropping NRAtv and they complain about large media companies censoring them.

  10. They do not need any of you. by bussdriver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The NRA is owned by industry, the issue group front is just to make them more powerful lobbyist. The drug industry would love to hijack the AARP like the NRA has been.

    They want you for the influence you can give them and nothing more.

  11. Hello. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As the Marine general said the other day "Do those people not understand one company of Marines can take out an entire small city?" The only thing it's guaranteeing is your ability to shoot up your neighbors.

  12. The NRA is a terrorist organization. by mark_reh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They have and continue to support mass murder. Any politician, from any party, who accepts their money, should be thrown out of office. Once we've purged the parasite that is the NRA, we can start working on repealing the 2nd amendment.

  13. Re:All Hail Mesh Nets and Rifles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, because kids going to school under the barrel of a gun really screams "freedom".

    No, it actually screams dystopian police state nightmare. It's the very anti-thesis of freedom when kids have to go to school on the barrel of a gun of the authorities, in fact, it's probably the most un-free scenario imaginable.

    The more you equip people with arms, the more people are prevented from being truly free, because they're only moments away from someone who is anti-freedom taking their life because they didn't like their opinion. This inherently kills off freedom of expression and turns everyone into compliant drones.

    You think your leader is enhancing freedom and liberty, really, he's just taking it from you piece by piece - he's made sure him and his pals get more money, he's made sure people that share his view are more free to oppress others with firearms, he's killing the ability for people to spread information freely on the internet unless they can pay to do so.

    This isn't freedom, this is the very definition of real, actual fascism, and you're supporting it.

  14. I just don't get it by nospam007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They condemn the school guard who waited 4 minutes (sic) with his pistol outside.

    When 2 patrolmen see 1 guy wielding a revolver in a bank full of people, the call for reinforcement, block the streets, call SWAT, FBI and whatnot... and those guys have bulletproof vests, shotguns ...

    And this single guy was supposed to go against an unknown number of killing, suicidal shooters on speed, with armor, assault guns, large mags with armor-penetrating ammo with his pistol alone?
    And he didn't even know where in the building they were.

    Are they crazy?

    Same thing for arming teachers, what are they going to do?

    They will sit in a wardrobe with their .38 in hand shitting their pants and then accidentally kill the student who wants to seek refuge in the same wardrobe.

  15. NRA doesn't get the point of 2nd amendment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Posting anon on purpose.
    NRA doesn't seem to grasp the purpose of the second amendment, IMHO.

    The sole purpose of keeping and bearing arms for the public is so they can overturn a government that doesn't serve the people.

    That was fine at the time the constitution was written, but now it's not enough to own a rifle if you want to make sure the government doesn't oppress it's people.
    Internet, social media and mobile phones has made mass surveillance and profiling of the entire population almost a trivial task.
    Want to know who has opposing political views? Want to know who their friends are?
    Want to know who they meet?
    It's just a query away.

    Mass surveillance is now a much more dangerous tool for those wanting to oppress a population than guns ever was. And having one yourself doesn't help at all. The Arab-spring let people to believe that social media empowered people, but that is only true if the ones that oppress do not control all platforms. Turned against the people it's a scary tool.

    The NRA should not get involved on the corporate side of regulating the internet. If they want to protect the 2nd amendment and it's true purpose then they should consider who they publicly support. A guy who wants to take away the right for people to use the internet outside of the walled gardens of corporations does not have the people best internest at heart.

  16. Circle Jerk by thegarbz · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If anyone needed a practical real world example of the filthiest scum circle jerking while they slowly ruin the country, this is it. I expect Trump to come in and serenade them both with a speech on tax cuts.

  17. Re:Double whammy. by DamnOregonian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The Left" is the specter named by the Fox News talking heads, and Limbaugh and Jones' two minutes of hate radio shows. It doesn't matter what's really left or right anymore- they just need a bad guy.
    No idea if the corresponding media sources on "the left" are as bad about calling things "The Right", because I don't really watch that shit.. I have a nausea-inducing aversion to feeling like I'm standing in an echo chamber, and I don't really need to hear Rachel Maddow drum up stupid fucking reasons for me to be liberal, or construct dumb ass arguments for why that's better than conservative.

    All I know is I don't even know if it's politics anymore... It's something sicker than that.
    America has never really had a left-wing, and these guys aren't quite Nazis, yet. But they're talking more and more like them.

  18. What was their argument? by slashdotiscompromisd · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Is ANYONE going to service their argument that the repeal protected free speech?
    Is ANYONE going to service the pro-repeal argument at all?

    Or are you just going to gibber like beasts pretending your opponent is another species?
    Because in case you didn't notice, your attitude is fomenting a civil war.
    And by God, you deserve to lose it.

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