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YouTube Is Full of Easy-To-Find Neo-Nazi Propaganda (vice.com)

An anonymous reader quotes an exclusive report from Motherboard: Through a software-aided investigation, Motherboard has found that while YouTube has managed to clamp down on Islamic extremists uploading propaganda, the video giant is still awash with videos supporting violent and established neo-Nazi organizations, even when, in some cases, users have reported the offending videos. Clips of neo-Nazi propaganda operations, hate-filled speeches, and extremists pushing for direct action have remained on the site for weeks, months, or years at a time. Arguably, many if not all of these videos may fall under YouTube's own policy on hate speech, which "refers to content that promotes violence against or has the primary purpose of inciting hatred against individuals or groups based on certain attributes," including race or ethnic origin, religion, and sexual orientation, according to the policy.

Motherboard built a tool to monitor YouTube and make a record of when the platform removed certain videos, and limited the clips to propaganda for established neo-Nazi and far-right terrorist organizations like Atomwaffen, rather than people in the so-called "alt-right." Most of the videos were discovered through simple YouTube searches of relevant organizations' names, or sometimes through the "recommended videos" sidebar after Motherboard had built up a browsing history of neo-Nazi material. For the sake of comparison, over a week-long period Motherboard also tracked pro-ISIS videos uploaded by the group's supporters and then distributed through a network of Telegram channels. Typically, YouTube removed these Islamic extremism videos in a matter of hours, including those that did not contain images of violence, but were instead speeches or other not directly violent content. But YouTube is playing catch up with neo-Nazi material. YouTube removed only two videos that Motherboard was monitoring: two identical clips of a speech from UK terrorist organization National Action.

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  1. You can find anything on YouTube by Darth+Twon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Spoiler alert: that's the whole point.

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    1. Re:You can find anything on YouTube by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Really? I have yet to find any good porn on YouTube.

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  2. Nazis have lost their meaning by NaCh0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When so many on the left refer to anyone who disagrees with them as a Nazi the term has becoming meaningless. Maybe calling anyone with an R next to their name a nazi is a joke. I really don't know. It certainly won't end well at the polls when regular people vote for a 'correction' like they did in 2016, Brexit, and most recently Italy.

    Newsflash, Trump is nothing like an actual Nazi.

    1. Re: Nazis have lost their meaning by guruevi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you think 50% of the nation is nazi because they voted for Trump, why haven't you started the resistance yet?

      This kind of comment is exactly why the left has lost the common ground. By demonizing everyone you don't agree with, you've lost your cause.

      There are Nazis and their sympathizers, they make up 0.2% of the population. In the world stage they are irrelevant, they have no relevant political presence, party or organization. Muslims and Christians make up the majority of the world population, if they start spouting off their religious nonsense as fact it's actually dangerous.

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    2. Re: Nazis have lost their meaning by CanHasDIY · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For the record, 50% of the nation did not vote for Trump.

      48% of registered voters didn't participate in the last election; of the 52% who did, 8% voted third party. The other 44% was fairly evenly divided between D and R; so at best, any one candidate actually only received around 23% of the total overall vote, if we bother to include the disenfranchised.

      The big takeaway for me in that case is the knowledge that our President is usually elected by less than a quarter of the overall voting populace.

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    3. Re:Nazis have lost their meaning by HeckRuler · · Score: 3

      When so many on the left refer to anyone who disagrees with them as a Nazi the term has becoming meaningless.

      So, basically, you're a neo-nazi/white supremacist/right-wing-militant/neo-fascist/racist sympathizer?

      OH MY GOD! At least TRY to to play directly into his fucking hand. Listen man, you're not helping our side. You're making us look bad. I understand it's important to you, and yes there are real actual honest-to-god nazis out there and they've been emboldened by recent politics. But immediately jumping out and accusing this guy of being all those terrible things is EXACTLY what he's talking about, and it just reinforces his point. Get your shit together Rick.

      Is this staged? Is it rigged? Are Nacho and Rick actually friends and coordinating this level of face-palming?

      If you think the half of the country that didn't vote for, and don't support Trump,

      And get your stats right. 80.5% of America didn't vote for Trump. 80.2% didn't vote for Hilary.

  3. Sounds better to me than alternative by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What you rather happen:

    A) Real actual nazis spend all free time making YouTube videos.

    B) Angry nazis pushed off YouTube go outside and... do things.

    You all seem to be angling for the "lets drive Nazis to take action" camp which sounds exceedingly unwise. YouTube is the greatest honeypot/time sink ever built by mankind, you are all absolutely wasting the potential there by pushing anyone away from it.

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    1. Re:Sounds better to me than alternative by penandpaper · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No the troll mod is appropriate. How is generalizing millions of people to a caricature and a stereotype in any way not a troll?

      Also, wtf do you mean "dealt with"? That alone is retarded trollery. Are you going to have a Final Solution to the "nazi" problem? Seriously, are you one of those morons that think that the only way to have free speech is to restrict free speech for opinions you don't like? You do realize that the point of free speech is to protect the speech that is hated not what is universally accepted? You do realize that in that last half century that allowing nazi's/kkk/racists/whateverlabelyoubemoan to speak has had their numbers decreased? You and people that think like you are fuckin moronic.

      Karma be damned but you are a idiotic troll.

  4. Actual stats? by Mr307 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I rtfa and there were no numbers, well they mentioned 4, but 4 doesn't seem like enough to make an 'awash'.

    All that being said, I prefer to have a forum where its easier to point out the extremists because they are dumb enough to tell everyone just how well dumb they are and everyone can see it and who associates and or agrees with them too. Rather than hiding it in the shadows and pretending its not there, then being all surprised later when get clubbed over the head by some event and start crying.

    But whatever, it appears that the blocking is mostly being used to silence anything deemed disagreeable anyways so the secondary effect of blocking some idiots just has to be accepted.

  5. YT only removes extreme right wing content by dicobalt · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've reported a number of radical leftist videos and creators who promote violence, hate, and bullying, none have been taken down.

    1. Re:YT only removes extreme right wing content by ArylAkamov · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've done the same. It's pretty telling given all the AC comments directed at you too.
      We're in a pretty sorry state of affairs when commies advocating political violence is fine, but weapon safety videos get removed.

  6. What ever happened to defending unpopular speech by Holi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't get all this crap about wanting to remove these guys.

    1. I'd rather know what they are saying
    2. I'd rather know who they are
    3. I'm not cool with demands for censorship

    Now, I'm about as liberal as you can get, but censorship, government or otherwise always rubs me the wrong way. Maybe it has to do with the fact that my family has been here since the beginning and has served in every conflict our country has ever had. I believe in free speech, even for the idiots who spout white supremacy/nationalism crap.

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  7. Re:I am sick of the negative news/info/verbiage... by mspohr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    YouTube makes it easy for anyone to post video about anything and for other people to find that video and watch it. It does a really good job at this.
    Of course, you are going to have all kinds of people posting all kinds of video. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
    You don't have to watch Nazi videos.

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  8. Counter Point! by Templer421 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let the Nazi Freak Flag Fly.

    Then we can publicly point out the wrongness AND contradictions of the true believers.

    Banning lends a bit of anti-hero legitimacy it does not deserve.

    TRUTH nails their crazy ass beliefs to the village square for all to see.

    Often TRUTH changes the minds of the young and easily mislead followers before they get very far down the path of wrongness.

  9. Communist videos? by JDAustin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yet communist/marxist propo vids don't trigger the SJWs like the nazi ones do even though the nazis were amateurs compared to the communists/maxists when comes genocide, repression and subjugation.

  10. Re:It's a trap! by CanHasDIY · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Motherboard not familiar with the concept of a "honeypot"? The best thing to do is leave these pages up, then pass the IP address of anybody watching them to the NSA, because watching them is adequate justification for a wiretap warrant.

    So having an unpopular opinion makes you a 'fair target' for government scrutiny?

    Do you feel the same way about Antifa supporters?

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  11. Are you a Neo-Nazi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    how Jews and Latinos (and anyone who isn't aryan, basically) are all scum and should be exterminated, then they're very likely neo-nazis

    The DNC leadership STRONGLY supports Louis Farrakhan who is an outspoken anti-semite. He got in the news this week giving a speech about how Jews are his enemies along with many other anti-semetic remarks.

    By your definition, since the DNC refuses to denounce his comments, the DNC leadership are Neo-Nazis. Which seems appropriate since they are the ones who let Robert Byrd, a KKK leader, be one of the top senators for 6 decades.

    I understand you were trying to paint all Republicans/Trump supporters as nazis, but using your own words I can only conclude you believe the DNC leadership are the real Nazis. Are you ready to denounce Pelosi, Shumer, Clintons, and the rest? Or will you stick up for them showing us you also are a Neo-Nazi.

  12. Remember that time... by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 3

    Hey guys, remember that one time we had that crazy idea where people could say whatever they wanted and censorship was considered a bad thing?

    That was crazy, right?

  13. Re:Right to Free Speech by HeckRuler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "protected speech" Don't play word games. The specific term "freedom of speech" goes back at least to 1689 and the idea goes all the way back to 600 BC in old Athens. If you feel the need to invent new terms to try and replace what everyone is already using and understands, you're likely full of shit.

    Calls to specific violence is a conspiracy to murder and that's illegal. "Let's go give a wet willie to Locke2005 (849178) next monday after work". That's trying to form a mob for an act of violence (of the most heinous of sorts). Generally advocating violence, like suggesting we tar and feather anyone who doesn't comment their code, that's not illegal. And yeah, these asshats really walk that line don't they? And it sucks that this shit gets down to technicalities. But it's IMPOSSIBLE to keep people from FEELING threatened. Hell, your post makes me feel threatened that my personal rights are going to get taken away and that my political party no longer supports the ideas born out of the age of enlightenment. That winds have changed and times are dark. It sucks. But I'm not advocating we ban you from Slashdot.

  14. Re:Conveniently ignored... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Firebombing Tokyo was much worse. Without the nuclear bombs dropped a few months later, there may have been many more such firebombings to bring the Japanese to the table to surrender. Of course, there was that little 40 day period called the Rape of Nanking where the Japanese killed over 250,000 people. Talking to my wife's grandmother - who lived through it as an 18 year old girl who was thankfully taken in by a Jewish family (otherwise she was certain to be raped and killed like her best friend), it was horrific. But never mind, USA bad because nuclear weapons.

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