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Entire Broadband Industry Will Help FCC Defend Net Neutrality Repeal (arstechnica.com)

The biggest lobby groups representing broadband providers will help the FCC defend the repeal of net neutrality rules in court. Ars Technica reports: Yesterday, three trade groups that collectively represent every major home Internet and mobile broadband provider in the U.S. filed motions to intervene in the case on behalf of the FCC. The motions for leave to intervene were filed by NCTA--The Internet & Television Association, CTIA--The Wireless Association, and USTelecom--The Broadband Association. NCTA represents cable companies such as Comcast, Charter, Cox, and Altice. CTIA represents the biggest mobile carriers, such as AT&T, Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile, and Sprint. USTelecom represents wireline telcos with copper and fiber networks, such as AT&T and Verizon. All three groups also represent a range of smaller ISPs.

As intervenors in the case, the groups will file briefs in support of the net neutrality repeal order and may play a role in oral arguments. NCTA's motion noted that its members would once again be subject to "common-carriage regulation under Title II of the Communications Act" if the FCC were to lose the case. CTIA said that its members "would be adversely affected if the [net neutrality] Order were set aside and the prior Title II Order classification and rules were reinstated."

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  1. "... play a role in oral arguments." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You mean Big Telecom will suck the government's D as always.

    1. Re: "... play a role in oral arguments." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They also suck R. Not just D.

  2. Regulatory Capture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    More proof that MegaCorpInternetInc owns the FCC. Does this seem to bother any of our elected representatives? I think not.

  3. Fry said it best by ancientt · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:Fry said it best by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      I'm just shocked the EFF hasn't joined them. After all, the telecoms keep telling me its good for me as a consumer and for the Internet as a whole.

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    2. Re:Fry said it best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why would you think that EFF would support an agenda of fighting ideas of 'net neutrality'?

      This post of yours sounds like bullshit. There appear to be no point to your post other than being vague and suggestive.

  4. Baksheesh by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This is the best argument for why we need Net Neutrality rules and campaign finance laws:

    "As intervenors in the case, the groups will file briefs in support of the net neutrality repeal order and may play a role in oral arguments. NCTA's motion noted that its members would once again be subject to "common-carriage regulation under Title II of the Communications Act" if the FCC were to lose the case. CTIA said that its members "would be adversely affected if the [net neutrality] Order were set aside and the prior Title II Order classification and rules were reinstated.""

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  5. My ISP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is what my ISP has to say about net neutrality:

    "DSLExtreme supports a free and open internet through Net Neutrality. Although a repeal of Net Neutrality is heavily in the favor of ISP’s like us, we will not alter, filter, throttle or otherwise mess with our customer’s internet access. This has always been and continues to be our policy. We do not anticipate any change in service to our customers. We do believe that freedom of choice is a foundation of our country, and we encourage all customers to make their voices heard on this topic by writing to their state representatives."

    And that is just one of the reasons that I fucking love them and will never use another ISP.

    1. Re:My ISP by sdinfoserv · · Score: 1

      Sorry dude, you're already using other ISPs..... Your ISP, DSLExtreme is just the conduit from your house the back bone of the intenet. When you watch Netflix at home, the IP path is not NETFFLIX --> DLSExtreme ---> your house, but rather ....
      NETFLIX --> Amazon --> Verizon --> AT&T --> COX ---> Comcast --> DSLExtreme --> Your house...
      So throttling is already happening upstream of your provider if ANY upstream oligarchy want's Netflix payola to let the traffic through unmolested. This is exactly why Municipal ISP's are BS because people do not understand how the dataflow works.
      Here's just an example of 2 ISP back bone providers finger pointing resulting in any down stream customer getting screwed.
      https://www.fiercetelecom.com/...

    2. Re:My ISP by Falconnan · · Score: 1

      Good idea. That'll work great in areas with only one provider.

  6. Re: We're all adversely affected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I hope the judge will consider all of that industry support as indicative of the repeal being in favor of the ISPâ(TM)s. Of course, I have no idea if that matters in a court of law

  7. Re:They'll win too by Ecuador · · Score: 1

    Meanwhile Trump & his party promised them good paying jobs.

    Eh, not exactly. What I remember is that he was promising them coal mining jobs and not being particular about the pay grade. So all they knew was they were promised jobs that were considered unhealthy/undesirable 100 years ago, and yet they were applauding. Perhaps everybody was thinking "surely the other guys will be going down the mines, I'll be managing from above", or something like that, I don't know, I didn't try to make any sense out of it...

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  8. Re:Who DEFENCE FBI? by youngone · · Score: 1

    Thanks Ivan. You should brush up on your english before posting here.

  9. Re:They'll win too by youngone · · Score: 2

    I'm an outside observer also, and from what I can see, the entire US political system is set up so that corporate interests can get what they want.
    None of them want the lobbying hell to end because that's how everyone involved makes their living.

  10. Clear path forward by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

    It is obvious how to proceed, get an actual law passed by Congress. Stop screwing around with unelected bodies. Yes, the same entities will lobby congress heavily, but right now the matter will always be subject to the whims of the FCC.

  11. The operative statement from TFS... by GerryGilmore · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...is this: "would be adversely affected if the [net neutrality] Order were set aside and the prior Title II Order classification and rules were reinstated." i.e. "We can't fuck our customers with as large and sandy a dildo as we would really like to in order to maximize our ROI so that my paycheck is even more Bigly!!(TM) Waaahhhh! Waaaaahhhhh!!!!"

  12. Title II Order classification by psergiu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If ISPs win and will no longer have a Title II Order classification - will this mean they are no longer a public utility so their easement for the cables crossing my property is no longer "en gross" so i can charge them a rent fee for private land use - right ?

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    1. Re:Title II Order classification by careysub · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Should be modded up "funny". We all know that costs are socialized and only corporate profits are privatized.

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    2. Re:Title II Order classification by tgeek · · Score: 1

      If ISPs win and will no longer have a Title II Order classification - will this mean they are no longer a public utility so their easement for the cables crossing my property is no longer "en gross" so i can charge them a rent fee for private land use - right ?

      Tread lightly there. With SCOTUS ruling that eminent domain can be applied for private endeavors, some weird shit could happen if you dared exercise your legal rights.

    3. Re:Title II Order classification by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 1

      Is that how it worked before they were classified under Title II a couple of years ago? No?

      Then no, it's not how it will work now that we're back to that.

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    4. Re:Title II Order classification by sydbarrett74 · · Score: 1

      Too bad that from Big Business' perspective, it's always 'heads I win, tails you lose'.

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  13. Re:They'll win too by Arzaboa · · Score: 1

    Assuming I need a connection to the internet. When my only providers are Comcast or Verizon, what is one to do when they are working together as one? We've tried new companies and even a city provided internet. The city is sued, the company has so many hurdles that no small company can do it. Would love your help.

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  14. Re:They'll win too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    lol
    gotta mod down the guy who explained how the government actually works to protect daddy trump

  15. Re:Adversely affected? by guruevi · · Score: 1

    The whole Obama "Net Neutrality" was also to enrich the corporations. We haven't had true net neutrality in the US yet, the things they're talking about is about regulations and letting companies merge and become monopolies or not.

    When Obama implemented the new rules, it took away a lot of protections against monopolization and made running a smallish ISP very costly so they all got gobbled up into 2 or 3 large networks across the US which was approved because 'regulations are costly'. Now that they're "back together" they want the regulations gone so they lose the cost and make it harder to start up new ISPs.

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  16. Quick by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    Post something to slashdot instead of writing to a politician.

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    1. Re:Quick by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      The whole idea of sharing the idea on slashdot is so that others can consider it, value it worth and apply it in what ever way they want. So instead of one action the potential for tens of thousands and in viral terms ten of millions of actions based around the theme presented by the idea. Things seem to have a way of spreading from slashdot, sort of like 4Chan with a silencer, far more subtle ;).

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  17. Please stop fighting the repeal by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    Seriously, stop it. Instead focus on removing the monopolies, along with allowing muni broadband a. Competition solves this.

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    1. Re:Please stop fighting the repeal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Competiiton is dead. Welcome to the new era where all companies are united to get the most of the money from you with the minimum effort. Monopoly is not needed when you can have a deal with your adversaries to milk all the money they can extract from users like you.

      And nobody can stop this anymore. Since they have bought all required politicians to do whatever they want.

  18. Re:They'll win too by TheReaperD · · Score: 1

    *Ding* *Ding* *Ding* "We have a winner!" (From someone on the inside watching this mess.)

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  19. Could we try freedom maybe? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    Stop telling people what to do with their networks.
    Stop telling people that they can't build competing networks.

    Oh, but which crapitalists will get paid undeserved rents if the government permits a free market?

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    1. Re:Could we try freedom maybe? by PPH · · Score: 1

      Stop telling people what to do with their networks.

      No problem. Now get your network off of our public right-of-way.

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  20. Re: They'll win too by bn-7bc · · Score: 1

    Wow $200/month seams steap, menwhile here in norway you jan get 100Mbps/100Mbs and basic tv pacage for $132/month if you are in an area with ftth, less if you dump tv

  21. Re:They'll win too by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    "Im with her!" is not a policy..

  22. Be careful by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    Be careful what you wish for. You may just get it.