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Mozilla Pulls Advertising from Facebook (betanews.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Mozilla is not happy with Facebook. Not happy at all. Having already started a petition to try to force the social network to do more about user privacy, the company has now decided to withdraw its advertising from the platform. The organization is voting with its money following the misuse of user data by Cambridge Analytica, as it tries to force Facebook into taking privacy more seriously. Mozilla says that it is not happy to financially support a platform that does not do enough to protect user privacy. But the company is not severing ties completely. It says that advertising is being "paused" and that if the right steps are taken by Facebook "we'll consider returning."
From everything I've read, the value of advertising on Facebook is pretty questionable.
Facebook is so noisy normally, I'm not sure how people would even see ads apart from those annoying product adds embedded in the timeline view.
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That's what it says on the Firefox download page.
I guess Mozilla don't want that for Facebook users? I mean, it's not like Facebook needs Firefox.
Facebook earnings will suffer a whole .0000001%
I advertise the XUL trio instead. Waterfox, Basilisk and Pale Moon. When Mo$illa (spelled with a dollar sign) stops messing with cookie management, stop sending personal data to cloudflare and restores XUL support in non-ESR builds then we can talk.
So let me get this straight, a hundred thousand people using an app is enough for Cambridge Analytics to query the data for 50 million *unique* Facebook accounts?
Each one of those who did the survey 'approved' the collection of data from 500 other people?
And Facebook implemented this, exactly so it could sell as much data as possible to any Tom Dick or Putin who wanted it? For any kind of spying of candidates, election rigging, chemical weapons attack or other innocent purpose any Tom Dick or Putin might want to do?
The same company that removed the blank tab so they could pimp advertisements wants Facebork to be better. Huh.
Well I suppose not being on Facebook and running an ad blocker works, though as a user of Firefox, I wouldn't be a target anyway.
You live and learn, or you don't learn much.
Depends on the ad. A lot of ads are crafted to look like normal FB posts with only a small "Suggested App" or "Sponsored" identifier at the top to indicate that it's advertising.
Right, but then it looks like a post - where the normal action is to scan quickly and move on. If an ad is not going to get you to click through, it's not very impactful as people's memories are terrible.
I've seen the exact ads you mention, while they are probably more useful than other kinds of ads I still doubt they have a large impact.
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Everyone should stop using Fakebook immediately. Isn't Fakebook really just a platform for sharing live murder videos.
I'm sure Facebook is quaking in its boots over that.
Can a browser with only 5.5% market share really make that much of a difference? It sounds like they need advertizing more than Facebook needs them. http://gs.statcounter.com/
guess that means they have a hit/recognition factor of 0. save your money.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
There is a distinct difference between using Facebooks API collecting information about visitors while following the terms they agreed to and someone with access provided for research using it to slurp up data on everyone then proceeding to sell it. If you can't understand it then it suggests you don't have a grasp of ethics.
If you care at all about privacy you should be happy about the scrutiny, these are far from the only actors collecting data.
If Mozilla cares about Facebook's data mining, why do they have a Facebook page and links to their Facebook page on the Firefox page (and presumably other pages, I couldn't be bothered to check)? If they care about data mining in general, then why are they making it difficult to get the Android version of Firefox via any mechanism other than the Google Play store, why don't they just provide an F-Droid repository that users can subscribe to?
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Mozilla Foundation will rely on illegally leaked IRS records for their decision-making. None of this Facebook stuff -- because privacy.
No, Obama Didn’t Employ the Same Strategies as Cambridge Analytica
Facebook's business model is analyzing and selling user data. They're not going to change it at all. User privacy goes against their core values, they only really support the illusion of it.
I did! You can, too!
See this article: No, Obama Didn’t Employ the Same Strategies as Cambridge Analytica.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/...
Isn't that why people use it? To put yourself out there to the public?
Or to put it another way, those that want privacy don't use facebook.
Facebook ads are of negligible ROI. Affiliate marketing is what works best.
But I also question this decision by Mozilla. First, it's not as if Mozilla ads are a MAJOR revenue source for Facebook. Second, people who are giving Zuckerberg all their data on Facebook should be, ostensibly, people Mozilla wants to use its products. This seems more like grandstanding.
I guess this raise the question, can Facebook survive this Tide of bad press?
is to hoover up as much data as they can and make a profit from it all while pretending to be nothing more than an innocent Social Media platform where friends and family can keep in touch.
I'm curious what " privacy " can reasonably be expected or even demanded from such an entity whose sole purpose is information brokerage ?
How? What does it collect?
Because unless something has changes massively in the 14 months since I worked for Mozilla that is completely false
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you think any average internet dope even understands what that means?
Guaranteed response 99% of the time: "What's Mozilla?"
See this article: No, Obama Didn’t Employ the Same Strategies as Cambridge Analytica.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/...
Because the person who ran the Obama campaign says that what they did was different and OK.
Right.
This is a move worthy of applause!
There was no ethical difference to users when Facebook slurped up data and sold it to Democrats versus when Cambridge Analytics slurped up data and sold it to Republicans.
Sure there was a difference to Facebook, but to the rest of us it's the same thing.
You don't have a grasp of reality. This is Facebook's business model. They sell your information. Credit Card companies sell your information. Cell phone Apps collect and sell your information!!
This has been going on for decades. But yeah act like it didn't happen before.
I find it funny that just a few versions ago Mozilla was doing privacy-invading shit, now they're calling upon Facebook to be more responsible with user privacy.
Give me a break.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
and too late.
The same "misuse" occurred in 2012, when it was hailed as Obama's genius and "mastery of Big Data". I don't understand, why anyone would use Facebook — and allow them to sell one's data — but to be suddenly scandalized by Cambridge Analytica's use of it is just blatant hypocrisy.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
BS. The distinctions Obama's bootlickers are trying to make in that article are without difference. There is nothing illegal or even unethical about Obama campaign's use of Facebook data, but neither is there anything wrong with CA's use of it. Can we use your FB-data for research? Yeah, sure. Ok, thank you...
Your article outright lies too. For example, its claim that
is contradicted by the perfectly non-controversial 2012 description of Obama campaign's approach:
See? Just by having the gross misfortune of being known to an Obama-backer, made you appear on Obama's radar, without your permission.
And it worked:
Again, it was not wrong then — but it also is not wrong now, however scandalized the hypocrites may pretend to be.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Kill yourself you stupid shill. Are you russian? Pushing debunked nonsense makes it likely. Get back in line for your potato.
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I'd delete my FB account over this, but... I never made one in the first place. Selling our private data has always been their business model and I've been using various extensions to prevent them from siphoning the info from me since the beginning because it was so damned obvious.
The real problem, though, is how they siphon your data from your friends & relatives and you can't do much about that because you never gave it to FB to begin with. So it's about 10 years too late to be scandalized by all this, but hey, maybe we'll at least get some privacy out of it? Though I really doubt that. Politicians have a way of exempting themselves from any impact.
Mozilla Pulls Advertising from Facebook
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Is the glass half full or half empty?
It's completely empty.
You don't have a grasp of reality. This is Facebook's business model. They sell your information
Actually it isn't Facebooks business model, they don't make any money by selling your information. What Facebook does is sells access to your eyeballs and they're willing to slice n' dice the userbase based on criteria.
Credit card companies, magazines, etc. all do however.
Oh, yes, he did:
The only difference is in the spin — one's "community organizing" is another's "psychological warfare". From the same source:
In other words, having the misfortune of being a "friend" with an Obama-fan, allowed this "geek squad" to "steal" your data — and subjected you to the same "psychological warfare".
No, it was not particularly wrong back then. And it is not wrong now either.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Oh, well, if Snopes finds a fault in Republicans, while white-washing Democrats, that's a real shocker... Every word must be true.
Bullshit — every campaign involves a multitude of "parties", who share the information. Each of those qualifies as "a third" party...
And he did. And then offered results of his research to a political campaign — is it really so unheard of, that results of an academic research are shared with others?
This may speak to Obama campaign not using the data at their disposal to its full potential. But they certainly had full access to it.
Most....
That contradicts the Time's article I cited — and I'm inclined to believe Time on this, because it was written in 2012, before the topic became contentious and various partisans started making spins...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Which raises the question: do people actually care about privacy, or do they only care about Trump?
Obama campaign openly admitted it got the friends lists of over a million people who use their apps. Many of these apps were just straight up tricks and nothing apparent to do with the campaign.
No one cared. In fact most media promoted it as great use of technology to get the message out.
My guess is that nothing will happen because the left want the same thing around next time.