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Facebook Gets Hit With Four Lawsuits Over Cambridge Analytica Scandal (sfgate.com)

Facebook has had a terrible week. Since it was revealed that political data firm Cambridge Analytica obtained information about 50 million Facebook users, the social media company has been in damage control mode, apologizing for its mistakes and conducting forensic audits to determine exactly what happened. SFGate reports today that Facebook "has been hit with four lawsuits in federal court in San Francisco and San Jose thus far this week." From the report: One lawsuit was filed by a Facebook user who claims the Menlo Park company acted with "absolute disregard" for her personal information after allegedly representing that it wouldn't disclose the data without permission or notice. That lawsuit, filed by Lauren Price of Maryland in San Jose on Tuesday, seeks to be a class action on behalf of up to 50 million people whose data was allegedly collected from Facebook by London-based Cambridge Analytica. The lawsuit says that during the 2016 election, Price was "frequently targeted with political ads while using Facebook." It seeks financial restitution for claims of unfair business practices and negligence. Both Facebook and Cambridge Analytica are named as defendants. Cambridge Analytica also announced today that the company will undergo an independent third-party audit to determine whether it still holds any data covertly obtained from Facebook users. "We take the disturbing recent allegations of unethical practices in our non-U.S. political business very seriously," CEO Alexander Tayler writes. "The Board has launched a full and independent investigation into SCL Elections' past practices, and its findings will be shared publicly."

UPDATE: Eighteen enforcement officers have entered the Cambridge Analytica headquarters in London's West End to search the premises after the data watchdog was granted a warrant to examine its records, reports The Guardian.

102 comments

  1. hypocrites by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It was fine when Obama was mining facebook, but now worthy of being drawn and quartered.

    If it wasn't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.

    1. Re:hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Well if you feel that Obama's use of facebook in the US elections was unreasonable, why don't you sue facebook? Or someone?

      The reality is that there is a huge gulf between how Obama used facebook and how Trump abused facebook.

    2. Re:hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nazi apologist faggot mentions Obama, EVERYONE DRINK

    3. Re:hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was different. Obama used Facebook to inform voters. Trump told people to vote for him.

    4. Re:hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But Obama didn't use "researches" to get data from unsuspecting people... it's a bit of a difference. They followed the TOS and didn't trick people.
      Still a bit shitty in my book, but a huge difference.

      To say what Obama did and the neo Republican party is doing is bonkers at best. That's like saying, hey... Obama spent lots of time golfing, so that makes it OK for Trump to play golf at his resorts on the taxpayer dime. You're completely ignoring the main issue of Trump making money for his estate and exploiting his status as president.

    5. Re:hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taking Facebook data was equally bad. But, CA, on behalf of Trump, apparently planted their propaganda on Internet as "independent" entities. CA executives brag about this in Channel 4 videos. This is huge difference.

    6. Re:hypocrites by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 1

      After Vad poisoned that double agent guy the Brits are not having it any longer. The'll go after everyone with ties to the Russian government. So yes, it was the logical consequence.

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    7. Re:hypocrites by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It was fine when Obama was mining facebook, but now worthy of being drawn and quartered.

      If it wasn't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.

      It has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with nonsensical rage of the day. These days when the media gets a hold of anything it becomes an instant drama, regardless if it represents business as usual, has been ongoing for many years, or is just plain expected.

      Seriously a lady is suing someone for getting political advertisement on a platform that is used for advertisement. The HORROR!

      I think the problem is not red or blue, but rather that everyone has become stupider.

    8. Re: hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you are. Complaining about Facebook's, constantly changing hour setting to gather more data faster and quieter. That's my only complaint about them. Not having to call your friends and family, they can track you down to the minute, you did something. Ah! That's bad. Right. Everyone, is tracking you too make a dollar. Is it Facebook who was bad, or some political proffessor? Who analysis proves did wrong. They are suing the big pockets, not the wrongdooer. Remember someone asked for certain data, then misused it.

    9. Re:hypocrites by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Cambridge Analytica broke not only the Facebook ToS, they broke the law in the UK and maybe the US. The broke the law to assist one side in the EU membership referendum, and one side in the US election.

      Obama's campaign stuck to the rules, they used their own app and didn't harvest data on friends who had not given permission.

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    10. Re:hypocrites by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Gotta get your daily injection of outrage. "I don't know why I'm mad as hell, but I'm sure not going to take it anymore!"

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    11. Re:hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. Nobody batted an eyelash when Obama did basically the same thing WITH Facebook’s help. Now, Trump hires someone to do this and it’s a federal offense and Facebook has to go into PR damage protection mode. Hypocrites!

    12. Re:hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Carol Davidsen, Director of the 2012 Obama campaign's Media Analytics group, got data on almost all American voters. In a telling quote, she said:

      Facebook was surprised we were able to suck out the whole social graph, but they didn't stop us once they realized that was what we were doing.

      They got the data from an estimated 190 MILLION people in the United States. There's no way 190 million people gave permission to the Obama campaign. Instead, they used the 1 million Obama app downloaders to scrape all of their Friend's personal information - which is exactly what CA's professor did.

      Here's an article from 2013 that has Obama campaign analysts reporting that Facebook knew the campaign was breaking the rules, but allowed it "as long as you stop on Nov. 7th".

      There is no doubt that the Obama campaign did at least everything Cambridge Analytica did, and more.

    13. Re:hypocrites by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      Russia wasn't heavily involved with Obama's facebook operations. That's the huge difference and why it matters this time. Clearly you get your news from a single source. And that's bad.

    14. Re:hypocrites by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      Actual foreigners were working at Cambridge Analytica. If they worked on projects for American elections that's illegal. If Americans paid them that's collusion.

      Obama didn't pay foreigners to influence Americans. Everything points to Trump doing exactly that.

      That's why this is different.

    15. Re:hypocrites by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It's why it's different, but it's not why anyone cares. Why anyone cares is due to rage of the day. Actually the only people here who care about the distinction are partisan defenders of their favourite orange MonkeyOTUS who insist that he can either do no wrong, or when caught that others were just as wrong.

      But that isn't being reflected at all in the media.

    16. Re:hypocrites by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      Wrong liar
      Trump coordinated with foreign governments, in violation of U.S. Campaign finance laws confirmed by the SCOTUS.

    17. Re:hypocrites by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      4chan videos?
      No wonder you're an insane Trumpie

    18. Re: hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a dumb American

    19. Re:hypocrites by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

      Well, they could always go to the right if they needed a matching pair of them.

      Need to invert some parts or swap some parts around to make them suitable for their use, is all.

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    20. Re:hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it wasn't for lies, the alt right would have nothing to say.

      The Obama campaign followed data policy guidelines. The Obama campaign did not engage in deceit of users. It used an app released by the campaign that stated in its policy that it would collect and use certain data. So no one can honestly claim that the Obama campaign committed the offenses of Cambridge Analytics.
        CA even lied to Facebook Inc.

      The offense wasn't using data, it was obtaining data in a manner contrary to Facebook's policies shared with users.

      But I can see why alt righters wish to act as thogh they are completely oblivious to the fact that lying matters.

  2. Butt Money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That's what we call it here.

  3. Cambridge Analytica in damage control... by cmeans · · Score: 4, Insightful

    they've now had days to destroy/remove data from the premises. Reportedly, employees have been seen carrying boxes out of their London Headquarters after a judge was reluctant to issue a warrant immediately. Anything gathered from that location at least will likely be worthless. Smacks of a major cover-up/ass covering.

    Time for Wikileaks to get their feed on.

    1. Re:Cambridge Analytica in damage control... by namgge · · Score: 1

      Hiding or destroying evidence is contempt of court. When the chips are down, very few employees are willing to risk prosecution and jail in order to help their employer.

    2. Re:Cambridge Analytica in damage control... by jrumney · · Score: 3, Informative

      A warrant to search Emerdata would probably turn up all those boxes that were carried out in the past few days.

    3. Re:Cambridge Analytica in damage control... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those employees will end up in prison if it's proven that they destroyed evidence.

    4. Re:Cambridge Analytica in damage control... by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Smacks of a major cover-up/ass covering

      When someone wants you dead you don't give them an inch of rope. No sane company or person would have advanced notice of a suspected raid and NOT clean out their house.

      To the best of my knowledge I have nothing illegal here or on my PC, but if I found out that someone was asking for a warrant to seize my electronics they would find me here three days later with an Amish hat asking the police to explain what a computer or this new concept of "electricity" actually is.

    5. Re:Cambridge Analytica in damage control... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Unless it is done by Hillary Clinton by bleach-bitting a server or smashing a smart phone with a hammer, right?

    6. Re:Cambridge Analytica in damage control... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice are fellonies, though.

    7. Re:Cambridge Analytica in damage control... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      They could end up in trouble for destroying evidence. They will have to explain how they knew things, where data came from, and when it was deleted. If an email turns up referencing something that was removed in those few days, there are consequences for the cover-up.

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    8. Re:Cambridge Analytica in damage control... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      They could end up in trouble for destroying evidence

      I never said anything about destroying evidence. You can't get in trouble for someone not finding something they expected to find in the location. If the prosecutor knows a document existed and there's evidence that it was destroyed THEN they can be charged. There are plenty of legal ways to avoid handing over something that isn't specifically mentioned. That's what raids are about. Typically when there is a raid on an office you're looking for evidence of a crime without knowing the specifics. If you know the specifics then they can already be discovered via court processes and there's very little reason for a raid / search warrant.

  4. Lock Him Up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Obama didn't have Russians on his team violating Facebook terms of use. Obama't collude with the Russian government's hacking and and dusruption of our election. Which is treason.

    But, you knew that already.

    1. Re:Lock Him Up! by harvey+the+nerd · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Obama's Russia connection was thru the Clintons. Obama was always more of a Middle East, Muslim and China investment, have to ask his mom about the CIA.

    2. Re:Lock Him Up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Ask your mom why you are such a fucking moron that you believe far-out conspiracy theories but are blind to the treason that Trumpski commits on national television every week.

      Ask your mother why you don't notice that Moscow Donald is totally subservient to Russia and Vladimir Putin. He fires American government officials who stand up to Russia, yet you pretend to be blind to this abject treason..

    3. Re:Lock Him Up! by harvey+the+nerd · · Score: 2

      ha,ha - talk about empty headed conspiracy theories It's funny how all the red diaper children and grandchildren go apeshit over Russia without the Soviet Union anymore. you're A. Coward alright

    4. Re: Lock Him Up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're honestly both retarded.

    5. Re:Lock Him Up! by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      Try again Tovaritch.

    6. Re:Lock Him Up! by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      Tovaritch, remember that a Trumpcheck is only good until he is impeached.
      Cash out quickly,take it in gold

  5. Ahhh, got it by Snotnose · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The sheeple have finally figured out FB's business model, FB is running for the hills figuring the average sheeple has an IQ south of 100, yet being idiots, the sheeple are finally thinking FB is fucking them over big time.

    / never had a FB account
    // been warning friend/acquaintances for years about this
    /// my reward? fuck all. suxs being the prophet of doom when doom shows up
    //// Kids decided the way to keep up with the grandkids was via FB
    //// Still no FB account, see them this weekend, should be interesting

    1. Re:Ahhh, got it by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The sheeple have finally figured out FB's business model,

      The news has all been, "Facebook has made a horrible mistake," not "this is normal for Facebook." So you know, gosh darn it, they better not do it again back to browsing memes.

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    2. Re:Ahhh, got it by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      The sheeple have finally figured out FB's business model, FB is running for the hills figuring the average sheeple has an IQ south of 100, yet being idiots, the sheeple are finally thinking FB is fucking them over big time.

      Most people don't - or more accurately didn't -care a whole lot if they are monetized. In a ideal world, their data wold be used merely to sell them stuff. But it ain't an idealized world, and the sheer amount of money in facebook's hands, the corruption that that much money brings, and outfits like Cambridge Analytica just happy to serve and advance that corruption just made the situation inevitable. So not just the US election, but Brexit are now under scrutiny.

      Now perhaps they might find a big change in their attitude.

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    3. Re:Ahhh, got it by harvey+the+nerd · · Score: 1

      "Facebook has made a horrible mistake"
      "We got caught"
      "we let the mask slip too much"

    4. Re:Ahhh, got it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      / never had a FB account // been warning friend/acquaintances for years about this

      Well, your friends have probably put your contact info in their phones, then shared their phones' address books with facebook, and put pictures of you they took on their facebook accounts.

      It's hard to avoid facebook, even if you never use their service (or never went on the internet).

    5. Re:Ahhh, got it by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      They got a good few years of growth after the PRISM news.

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    6. Re:Ahhh, got it by thegarbz · · Score: 0

      fuck all. suxs being the prophet of doom when doom shows up

      This is doom? This looks like business as usual. I have plenty of other ways to describe it:
      Tempest in a teapot
      Storm in a teacup
      Mountain made out of a molehill.

      I mean some of these people saw ADS! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!

    7. Re:Ahhh, got it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This guy thinks he doesn't have a facebook account just because he didn't make one lol

    8. Re:Ahhh, got it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you love how FB is supposedly the victim of a data breach according to the leftist media?

    9. Re:Ahhh, got it by martinfb · · Score: 1

      Common sense dictates that one should post only information they are willing to have publicly divulged.
      Why would anyone believe there is any security anywhere outside one's own private world?
      Even our own US Constitutional privacy laws are abused - by even our recent administrations, and corporations!

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  6. How bad was Facebook's week? by hey! · · Score: 3, Informative

    Its market valuation dropped 75 billion dollars.

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    1. Re:How bad was Facebook's week? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

      The whole market is just above long term support now. If it drops 1% more, it could set off a lot of algo and technical trading that could take it down another 5% in a day or two. Hopefully at that longer term support, they'll start buying again. If that longer term support broached, there is no telling where the bottom is at that point.

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    2. Re:How bad was Facebook's week? by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      You think technical analysis actually works. Cute.

    3. Re:How bad was Facebook's week? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Well, yes. I retired at 51, after all. Perhaps I was just lucky with my technical picks. A couple 35%+ returns on a big pile and avoiding almost all the decline in 2008-2009 (I was out at 13,200) were all fed by good old fashioned technical analysis.

      More importantly, I believe that a lot of other traders believe it and many Algo's appear to use it. And I've seen the stocks drop 10% within 5 minutes when technical support was broken more times than I can remember.

      I also believe in fundamental analysis. And I know it's hard to compete there because some people get to walk in the door and look at the actual order book or even get a seat on the board while the rest of us get old data.

      I also believe in the random walk. But, just like poker, there are times when particular moves are more or less likely.

      It led me to enter gold for a long term investment at the start of 2017. That's one we can check back on in 2020. :-)

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  7. They can just get it from the ISP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We all remember Republicans pushing through that bill for ISP's to do exactly what facebook did, right?

  8. No... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One lawsuit was filed by a Facebook user who claims the Menlo Park company acted with "absolute disregard" for her personal information after allegedly representing that it wouldn't disclose the data without permission or notice

    No...SHE had absolute disregard for her own personal information, by giving that to FB. FB is data collector first and formost. You give them data do not be surprise when they use or sell.

    1. Re:No... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      If FB told her in writing that they'd not share it, there's this little thing called contractual obligation that says you're wrong.

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    2. Re:No... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      One lawsuit was filed by a Facebook user who claims the Menlo Park company acted with "absolute disregard" for her personal information after allegedly representing that it wouldn't disclose the data without permission or notice

      No...SHE had absolute disregard for her own personal information, by giving that to FB. FB is data collector first and formost. You give them data do not be surprise when they use or sell.

      There are limits to what can be done with that information - it is not absolute. Facebook or anyone else for that matter cannot give your information to someone in order to commit fraud or other crimes - that would make them an accessory to the crime.

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    3. Re:No... by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Well, *I* feel like suing them (not enough to do it, because Experian already went that way, and you can't sue them), and I've never had a Facebook account. I'm just certain they've got my info anyway.

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    4. Re:No... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are limits to what can be done with that information - it is not absolute. Facebook or anyone else for that matter cannot give your information to someone in order to commit fraud or other crimes - that would make them an accessory to the crime.

      Such parties can not knowingly give data to somebody intending to commit a crime in the jurisdiction where the transfer occurs, without some risk.

      That leaves an enormous hole in the rules that allows essentially ANYTHING to be done with the data, so long as an appropriate fig leaf is present, OR they don't get caught in the relevant jurisdiction.

      Even if they do get caught, the most likely outcome is either that a patsy will have to be selected to take whatever punishment is deemed appropriate, or perhaps they might be given a slap on the wrist - and that only after years of litigation. At worst, the people involved will float away on their golden parachutes, after years of banking huge amounts of money.

      Pick your legal system, then pay the appropriate bribes*.

      * In the USA, you must use the term "campaign contribution" instead of bribe - a quaint and curious bit of local culture.

  9. Shakespeare said it best. by az-saguaro · · Score: 1

    "What's past is prologue."
    Now the fun begins.

    Sometimes you hate lawyers, sometimes you like them.

  10. apply tags by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Prime example of Cambridge Analytica consumer.

    Obama asked for users' consent. Cambridge Analytica bought data from a professor, which violated the TOS. They also messed with many other elections, bragged about bribery and corruption.

    Trump is much less horrible? As a human being, a husband or a politician? Because it's false regardless and I hope I don't have to list all the reasons. Now I am thinking you have graduated from Trump University.

    I have never met a Trumpster that exhibits anything close to sanity or fairness. They have spent so much time in Trumpland that Trump can tell them black is white and they would just believe it. I don't know why I even bother.

    1. Re:apply tags by srichard25 · · Score: 2

      https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/facebook-data-scandal-trump-election-obama-2012/
      "In 2012, the Obama campaign encouraged supporters to download an Obama 2012 Facebook app that, when activated, let the campaign collect Facebook data both on users and their friends. According to a July 2012 MIT Technology Review article, when you installed the app, "it said it would grab information about my friends: their birth dates, locations, and 'likes.' ". The campaign boasted that more than a million people downloaded the app, which, given an average friend-list size of 190, means that as many as 190 million had at least some of their Facebook data vacuumed up by the Obama campaign — without their knowledge or consent."

    2. Re:apply tags by Jarwulf · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not to mention Facebook worked directly with and allowed Obama to download the ENTIRE US social media graph which Trump through CA didn't have access to. That is if you believe all the allegations whereas what obama did isn't in dispute.

    3. Re:apply tags by Narcocide · · Score: 5, Informative

      The part neither of you dick-measuring shitheads get is that this isn't about the candidates or their apps. This is about Facebook's API for apps, of which this friends-list-harvesting ability is the primary design feature. Neither of these candidates' apps did anything that can't be done by every single other facebook app. You are all just noticing now because someone finally figured out how to mix AI with all that data and turn it into an automated PSYOP SPAM machine that steals credit card information and got caught doing it.

    4. Re:apply tags by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      That did not happen. Whatever source you used go back and find the exact quote and back up to where it was only the people who opted in. Same as asking everyone to list people they want the campaign to contact and people write names down.

      And it was only facebook data not the entire social media graph.Yes you can find quotes out of context to support your claim but it is a gross overstatement.

    5. Re:apply tags by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have always assumed anything I post to social media will become public. The vast majority of apps I have launched from Facebook ask you to click a button to share your information.

  11. It is time for Stormy weather by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Guccifer 2.0, Cambridge Anal. and Species Jumping...

    It's all coming together quite nicely. Trump lawyers heading for the exits is a good sign. Top law firms telling him, "Nah, we're good. Best of luck, Mr President". Hires a warmonger to be his new National Security Advisor. I'm old enough to remember when people said Trump hated foreign wars.

    Trump signs the Democrats' spending bill and headed to Mar-a-Lago for a week. I know what he'll be watching on TV Sunday night. Best believe Melania's got a legal team combing over the pre-nup and the NDA. Stormy's got pictures and video. Karen McDougal's got receipts. Mueller's checking off boxes.

    All this in the last three days. It seems like only last week that his third consecutive endorsee in a congressional election went down to defeat. Oh wait, it was just last week. Oh yeah, I forgot: Breitbart guys were caught on tape trying to bribe a lawyer to lie about his client. What am I forgetting?

    #WINNING

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    1. Re:It is time for Stormy weather by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Top law firms telling him, "Nah, we're good. Best of luck, Mr President".

      Ooh yeah, baby, when I read about this yesterday--I cannot lie to you: I LOL'ed. You bet your sweet ass I did.

      I'm thinking that they don't see him getting away with trying to flip the script on the Mueller investigation, either.

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    2. Re:It is time for Stormy weather by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      PopeRatzo said:

      Guccifer 2.0, Cambridge Anal. and Species Jumping...

      It's all coming together quite nicely. Trump lawyers heading for the exits is a good sign. Top law firms telling him, "Nah, we're good. Best of luck, Mr President". Hires a warmonger to be his new National Security Advisor. I'm old enough to remember when people said Trump hated foreign wars.

      Trump signs the Democrats' spending bill and headed to Mar-a-Lago for a week. I know what he'll be watching on TV Sunday night. Best believe Melania's got a legal team combing over the pre-nup and the NDA. Stormy's got pictures and video. Karen McDougal's got receipts. Mueller's checking off boxes.

      All this in the last three days. It seems like only last week that his third consecutive endorsee in a congressional election went down to defeat. Oh wait, it was just last week. Oh yeah, I forgot: Breitbart guys were caught on tape trying to bribe a lawyer to lie about his client. What am I forgetting?

      #WINNING
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    3. Re:It is time for Stormy weather by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 1

      I'm no Trump fan, but how is this "winning"? Let's say, for the sake of argument, he ends of getting impeached (incredibly unlikely even for him, given how historically difficult it is to actually make that happen) -- we all would end up with President Pence. Is that what you really want?

    4. Re:It is time for Stormy weather by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Let's say, for the sake of argument, he ends of getting impeached (incredibly unlikely even for him, given how historically difficult it is to actually make that happen) -- we all would end up with President Pence. Is that what you really want?

      It's a start. If you ask people from Indiana, you'll learn that Pence is actually pretty weak and mealy-mouthed and would be little more than a place-holder.

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    5. Re:It is time for Stormy weather by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 1

      I would say, "be careful what you wish for." Because odds are he would have a lot less friction with the Republicans in Congress and be able to get a lot more traditional Republican agenda-type stuff done. I do think Trump is done after this term anyway -- not because he gets impeached, but because he doesn't really want the job (he just wanted to win the election, but is now learning that the job itself is miserable, at least compared to what he's used to) and won't run for re-election. So my guess is that Pence will be the likely Republican candidate for POTUS in 2020. It will be interesting to say the least.

    6. Re:It is time for Stormy weather by segwonk · · Score: 1

      "Guccifer 2.0, Cambridge Anal. and Species Jumping......"

      Off topic I know, but.....

      I just want to say: Mr. Ratzo I love love love your posts so much. Thank you. Please keep on writing.
      (Oh, and welcome to California.)

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    7. Re:It is time for Stormy weather by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      (Oh, and welcome to California.)

      I do love it here, as I've said many times.

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  12. Re:Why the fuss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or very very very very stupid.

    trump is tanking our economy, has made besties with russia, given away a trillion dollars in a tax cut that was supposed to benefit rich people and does but then screwed everyone over because he tanked the economy, started a trade war, and so on.

    Hillary would have kept the economy going status quo which is all i really wanted. it is a farce that she was corrupt. Pick any of the slew of "normal" republicans that resigned from law suits this year or the plethora of fox news broadcasters, so that argument just makes people look like idiots. She wouldn't be a traitor and she wouldn't be a pushover like trump the wimp.

    so if you weren't sarcastic.. go peddle your russian garbage elsewhere.

    if you were sarcastic, sorry man... please add a /s

  13. Re:Why the fuss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh please, the only one keeping the Obamnamy from heading into a complete tailspin is Trump. He's finally bringing American businesses and American money back to America. He's revitalizing many American industries that had been destroyed by "free trade."

    If you want to see bad, you should see what the economy would have looked like under Crooked Hillary. We dodged a bullet.

  14. Like hogs at a trough by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 2

    Here come the class action lawyers jockeying for position. Something like this is virtually an automatic payoff for not much work.

    1. Re:Like hogs at a trough by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Something like this is virtually an automatic payoff

      Something tell me using a platform that serves you ads and harvests your data with full knowledge and then suing them for seeing and ads and having your data harvested won't be much of a payoff. About the only thing lawyers here will make is attorney fees.

    2. Re:Like hogs at a trough by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 1

      Something tell me using a platform that serves you ads and harvests your data with full knowledge and then suing them for seeing and ads and having your data harvested won't be much of a payoff. About the only thing lawyers here will make is attorney fees.

      Something tells me you've never been very close to actual litigation, much less class action. In broad strokes, the deep pocket has just been caught with its hand in the cookie jar (and, if the media accounts are close to correct, has essentially admitted it screwed up). That's a story FB will not want to reach the jury, so it'll most likely settle -- for a lot less than the potential liability in a worst-case jury verdict, but still a sizable sum in an absolute sense. The class action old hands know this well, which is why they raced to the courthouse to file and try to be the one to marshal the lead plaintiff and thus get the largest share of the settlement. There's a lot more than attorney's fees at stake here.

  15. We need to shut down Facebook... by Blinkin1200 · · Score: 2

    We need to shut down Facebook until we can figure out what the hell is going on!

    or something like that. heard a loud orange person say something similar to that.

    I need to pop more popcorn.

    1. Re:We need to shut down Facebook... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      heard a loud orange person say

      Mark Zuckerberg?

  16. Remind Me Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why I should give a shit about a data company not protecting PUBLIC data from an analytical company that then useses it to form a complete picture of a voter so that a presidential candidate can use it to appeal to his voter base. This is the ultimate form of democracy. Facebook knows more about what you want than you do. So what if Trump is giving the American people what they REALLY want.

  17. Re:Why the fuss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Revitalizing industry? I work for the healthcare industry. Our rapid expansion to helping children and the elderly stopped because all the money is now gone. Children are dying. Elderly are dying early. So fuck you. Fuck you and your American hating self. I am sure Adolf is proud of you.

  18. Re:Why the fuss? by greenwow · · Score: 0

    But Obama used Facebook to inform voters. Zuck in the last election used Facebook to tell people to vote for Trump. That's the difference.

  19. #DeleteFacebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just did it today. Mostly full of crap astroturfing anyways... yeah, sure... like my high school friends took time out of their day to post about some shitty "supplement".

  20. Reminder: Obama was a right-wing freakshow by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    If it wasn't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.

    Don't tell me you're like the gaslighting Obamabots, still going off of what the man said vs what he did.

  21. The entire social network of the US by knorthern+knight · · Score: 3, Informative

    Carol Davidsen, Obama's capaign media director, at a 2015 TED TALK! (YES!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?... about what the Democrats did in 2012. They pulled in the entire Facebook social network for the USA into their database.

    The juiciest part is at 19 minutes into the talk. If you don't want to wade through the first 19 minutes, click on the following link that jumps directly to minute 19 of the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?... She mentions that Facebook gave the Democrats special treatment "because they were on our side".

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    I'm not repeating myself
    I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user
    1. Re:The entire social network of the US by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      Selective listening. They got friend lists from people who opted in. That is vastly different from what you said. You know what you want to believe and aren't evaluating facts to see if your beliefs are true.

      You linked directly to it. Watch it again and this time listen.

    2. Re:The entire social network of the US by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      She mentions that Facebook gave the Democrats special treatment "because they were on our side".

      I just listened to the entire TED Talk and she never said that - at least not in that TED Talk.

      She did say

      So Facebook, 2012 election, had the ability for people to opt in. The Obama campaign rocked this, right? We got people to opt in and the privacy policies at that time on Facebook were that if they opted in they could tell us who all their friends were. So they told us who all their friends were.

      They took advantage of the privacy policies that were already set up.

      We were actually able to ingest the entire social network of the US that's on Facebook, which is most people.
      Where this gets complicated is that freaked Facebook out, right?
      So they shut off the feature.

      So Facebook "freaked out" and "shut off the feature" according to her TED Talk.

      I did find the source of your partial quote. It's from a recent tweet although it's not clear that she's talking about the same thing she was talking about in her TED Talk. It appears to be referencing a 2012 Time article about how they used that data which is also referenced in the Twitter thread.

  22. Re: Why the fuss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  23. Are you sure about that? by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 2, Informative

    The "March for our Lives" gun control march has been kept at the top of the news BY THE MEDIA for the last 30+ days. Do you think a national pro-life (anti-abortion) march would gain the same favorable coverage? Hell no . . . the only coverage it would get would be of its pink hat-wearing counter-protesters.

    1. Re:Are you sure about that? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The "March for our Lives" gun control march has been kept at the top of the news BY THE MEDIA for the last 30+ days. Do you think a national pro-life (anti-abortion) march would gain the same favorable coverage? Hell no . . . the only coverage it would get would be of its pink hat-wearing counter-protesters.

      And the relevance is what? It is still the very same example. Media gets a hold of something and dramatises it. If it is something that doesn't get clicks or (for some media outlets) fit their political agenda, then they move on.

      They used to move on from gun control quite quickly as well, but right now it is a hot topic that people show interest in, so they keep running with the stories.

  24. Class action plaintifs cannot be out of state by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SCOTUS ruled on that last August

  25. Opt-in Fig Leaf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not significantly different.

    We're talking about a "Log in with Facebook" auth dialog which grants access to a person's friends without those friends' knowledge or approval. Furthermore, even if you ignore that part, it's always been against the terms of service to permanently mirror Facebook's data through their APIs.

    The CA dataset was 50 million profiles harvested from ~250k authorized app log-ins. That's less than 0.5% of people in the dataset that actually approved anything, assuming they actually paid attention to what was being asked. It's reasonable to assume the Obama campaign saw similar numbers.

  26. It's Facebook, sheeple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The company has been butt-fucking you for over a decade now, and you've been willingly bending over and applying the lube. They don't even bother to give you a reach-a-round, yet you keep coming back to them for more.

    Look, if you don't like bottoming for Zuckerberg then stop bottoming for Zuckerberg. Otherwise, shut the fuck up, already. You have a choice. It's an informed one. Be a grown-up.

  27. Next Step: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Determine how much personal profiling data found its way from Google to Civis Analytics to the Hillary Clinton campaign.