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Netflix Pulls Out of Cannes Following Rule Change (variety.com)

Netflix and Cannes are breaking up, at least for now. On Wednesday, Netflix chief Ted Sarandos said that the streaming platform won't be sending any films to the prestigious French festival, formally severing the strained relationship between the two power players. The decision was a long time coming, after Cannes established a rule that forbade films without a theatrical distribution plan from its competition. From, a report: In an exclusive interview with Variety, Netflix's chief content officer says that the festival sent a clear message with a new rule that bans any films without theatrical distribution in France from playing in competition. Netflix could screen some of its upcoming movies out of competition, but Sarandos says that doesn't make sense for the streaming service. "We want our films to be on fair ground with every other filmmaker," Sarandos says. "There's a risk in us going in this way and having our films and filmmakers treated disrespectfully at the festival. They've set the tone. I don't think it would be good for us to be there."

Netflix made a big splash at the prestigious film festival last year with two movies that showed in competition: Bong Joon-ho's "Okja" and Noah Baumbach's "The Meyerowitz Stories." But after the 2017 announcement, French theaters owners and unions protested the inclusion of these films to Thierry Fremaux, the artistic director of Cannes. Netflix was amenable to having their movies play on big screens in France, but a law in the country requires movies to not appear in home platforms for 36 months after their theatrical release.

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  1. Re:Cannes's loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Cannes established a rule that forbade films without a theatrical distribution plan from its competition

    So Netflix announces that it has pulled out of a competition that it can't enter.

    LOL. WTF.

  2. Netflix will just build its own Cannes by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If things like this preclude Netflix from attending places like Cannes, it only makes sense for Netflix (and every other non-traditional studio) to get together and build their own awards festival. It's not like Netflix is going away anytime soon, so this is a loss for Cannes.

    Of course there'll be the obligatory Blackjack and Hookers.

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    1. Re:Netflix will just build its own Cannes by Luthair · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Its not just Cannes, the Oscars also has rules requiring a theatrical release. There are three ways I see this changing - (1) Netflix, Amazon et al. shower money on a struggling name-brand festival or (2) a streaming platform manages to release something that causes a public outcry for not being considered, or (3) the theatre industry completely crashes and burns in the USA. Perhaps #1 is most likely?

    2. Re:Netflix will just build its own Cannes by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      I choose (2). When this happens the digital film festivals will be the leaders, and Cannes a nostalgia fest for virtue signalers like the Oscars.

    3. Re:Netflix will just build its own Cannes by sd4f · · Score: 2

      I get the feeling they will start their own awards festivals, after all, my perception is that netflix started producing their own content because the rest of the industry were trying to call the shots on the content they were distributing.

    4. Re:Netflix will just build its own Cannes by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

      Also, the fact that a film wins an oscar is almost a negative indicator for me these days.
      So is "critical acclaim". They are either out of touch with reality or shills. I can't decide which. But I think the big studios can cut critics off and leave them without an income, arriving late compared to all the other critics who saw a film for free, a week early, and who get intided to special events.

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  3. Re:Stupid by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    France is the land of protectionism, and has been for the last ~250 years. They have their own ideas about what their culture should forcibly be that is highly resistant to change at best, highly xenophobic in the middle, and forcibly destroying other cultures within its own country (i.e. Basque) at worst. This is probably also part of the culture war that France has been waging against the US in vain for the past decade.

    French culture is the Eric Cartman of all of the world's cultures.

  4. Re: Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    If I understand correctly (I do not live in France), the law prohibits video-on-demand releases for 4 months after the theatrical release, and prohibits "streaming" video-on-demand releases for 36 months. My guess here is that streaming is not used as a technical term, but rather as a way of distinguishing between individually paid purchases/rentals (a la iTunes, Google Play, etc) and subscription-based services (a la Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc). So no -- they don't have to wait 36 months to get The Last Jedi on blu-ray or even on iTunes, but they will definitely have to wait to get it on Netflix.

  5. The market by mapuche · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Cannes has a big market. Hundreds of movies are sold globally in Cannes, at the same time many producers find funding for their big budget and indie films. Netflix buys movies for a few dollars and produce a mere handful of movies every year. Cannes is still a very important platform for the movie business.

    Netflix has no space in this old world. They simply put online any movie and people may decide to watch it or not. Meanwhile everyone else has to find distribution and pay for advertising.

    1. Re:The market by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 2

      Hundreds of movies are sold globally in Cannes, at the same time many producers find funding for their big budget and indie films. Netflix buys movies for a few dollars and produce a mere handful of movies every year.

      Cannes showed about 70 films at the last festival, Netflix is scheduled to make 80 films this year, on top of just as many TV shows. Netflix's production budget is $5B/year.

    2. Re:The market by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Nothing lasts for ever, Cannes like all the rest of the live acting gigs, is doomed. Reality based animation will wipe them out, the creations of writers and animators together with virtual robotics will simply flood content channels. Why pay Hollywood puppets with delusions of grandeur, the reality is all the other people actually make movies and those movies work best when the puppets do as directed when directed and park their egos off stage. Sure calling them stars worked for marketing, selling the public relations illusion of them instead of trying to sell bad stories poorly told but it simply does not work any more except for the naive and gullible and they are usually broke or near broke. As for the rich breeding with those narcissists to feed their joint egos, well, they are figuring out the folly of that, incompetent spawn, with massive egos and no talent for anything, well, except posing about.

      This spat just highlights the end of the poseur show and the beginning of a new streaming era with a whole lot more people creating content. A probably rebirth of the studio business, where studios are leased out for a piece of the action and an agency established to source creators for those studios. Basically to undercut Hollywood et al by a long shot.

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    3. Re:The market by kenh · · Score: 2

      I just watched the Hitchcock classic "North by Northwest" and I think almost every outdoor scene was filmed either in front of a projected movie (50's green screen technology) or on a soundstage (where the ground is absolutely flat and the trees are all 50' or taller and spaced about 5 feet apart - just like in nature!).

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  6. Re:Cannes's loss by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, they'd have to release the movies involved in French theatres (okay), but then (according to the law) wait 3 years before offering it to their French subscribers? Obviously not happening.

    Or they could show the movies at Cannes, but not have 'em compete. Why not compete alongside the other movies shown there? Not fair (at least in Netflix' opinion, and I would agree).

    Remaining option: pull out all together. Which seems quite a reasonable choice given the above.

  7. This could get messy... by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Netflix Pulls Out of Cannes"

    So this year the Netflix "big splash" will occur somewhere else.

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    1. Re:This could get messy... by RoccamOccam · · Score: 2

      I can almost hear Chevy Chase reporting "a frustrated Cannes could not be reached for comment."

  8. Re:Netflix is the new "Made for TV" by quantaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They're not in the film business anymore than Hallmark is.

    There's a huge difference between creating films for the big screen and just pumping out content for your own TV station.

    If you want to be a film company then release to theaters.

    Not quite, I think TV Films are pure lowest common denominator, they're more about holding the Network audience than pulling in new people. Make 'em cheap and don't alienate people is the model.

    Netflix is allowed to be more daring, their size gives them a bigger budget, and their audience has a constant demand for adequate content.

    I think the better analogy is direct to video. You can chase a niche audience and drop a moderate budget if you push it, but you'll never get the revenue stream to justify a blockbuster. They need to be good enough to draw an audience, but not so good as to justify a night out.

    That and they sometimes get the big budget films that don't quite turn out.

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  9. 36 Months? by magister · · Score: 2

    Netflix was amenable to having their movies play on big screens in France, but a law in the country requires movies to not appear in home platforms for 36 months after their theatrical release.

    Where does a law like this originate? So if it is shown is a theater, at all, it automatically cannot be shown on any other medium for 3 years? I can only see this as a law to fuck content creators over because Theater operators have more say with the elected than the electorate. Maybe this is a sign that most of the 'would be' democracies are oligarchies as well :(

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  10. Difference is Oscars are in USA, not France by tepples · · Score: 5, Informative

    ts not just Cannes, the Oscars also has rules requiring a theatrical release.

    Unlike the Cannes festival, which requires a release in France, the Academy Awards require a release in Los Angeles in the USA. Unlike France, the USA lacks national regulation of motion picture release windows. This means after a movie completes its 7-day run in LA, it can go straight to Netflix with no mandatory 36-month waiting period.

  11. EP-101: How to Encourage Piracy by jaminJay · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "[A] law in the country requires movies to not appear in home platforms for 36 months after their theatrical release" - customers want it now, not later, and they will probably get it now, or not at all. This kind of law ensures jobs for lawyers, though, I guess...

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  12. Re:Hmmm.... by tepples · · Score: 2

    Why do I get the feeling that the big Hollywood studios are behind this?

    It's not the studios as much as the theater owners. The studios want to shorten the release windows, to the point of offering BD, DVD, or a la carte VOD at the tail end of a movie's 4-month theatrical run instead of waiting for its conclusion. The studios want to earn some money from people who would otherwise settle for infringing cam/telesync/screener rips, while theater owners don't want to have to compete with legitimate home theater.

  13. Re:Stupid by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    'dollar theaters' used to be a thing, used to be very popular. then early-release dvds and ondemand, piracy and streaming killed the entire segment of that industry.

    There are movies that you might want to see in a sumptuous big-screen movie palace with high-end audio, but today's living room is a better place to view anything than those dollar theaters were.

  14. Re:Netflix is the new "Made for TV" by gravewax · · Score: 3, Informative

    They're not in the film business anymore than Hallmark is.

    There's a huge difference between creating films for the big screen and just pumping out content for your own TV station.

    If you want to be a film company then release to theatres.

    "Film : a story or event recorded by a camera as a set of moving images and shown in a cinema or on television."

    They are most definitely in the film business, what they are not is in the theatre business. really they should rename the festival to the Cannes Theatre release film festival.

  15. Re:Stupid by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    France is the land of cultural protectionism

    FTFY

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  16. Re:Cannes's loss by Kopp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is not to help viewers, it is to help theaters. In their mind, if the movie is available to quickly after theater release, people will just wait for the digital release, and not pay an overpriced cinema ticket (easily 15€ per person when 3D) They had the sale rules with VHS/DVD,etc albeit much shorter (I think 6 months, reduced now to 3, not sure) The French love stupid rules like that... In the same way, you cannot broadcast movies on tv channels on friday and saturday nights, so that people would go out instead.

  17. Re:Stupid by knorthern+knight · · Score: 2

    > me? in north america? i would absolutely love a mandatory period
    > between theatrical premiere and 'home video' (or streaming or television)...

    This gives me an idea for saving newspapers. Howsabout a mandatory 6 month period between news being printed in a newspaper, versus being broadcast on radio and/or TV or on a webpage [/sarc]

    > 'dollar theaters' used to be a thing, used to be very popular. then early-release
    > dvds and ondemand, piracy and streaming killed the entire segment of that industry.

    Horse and buggy used to be very popular. Then Henry Ford's new-fangled invention killed that industry. What's also killing movie theatres is Hollywood greed. For the first few weeks after a release, Hollywood studios now want around 95% of all ticket revenues. Raising ticket prices doesn't help, because the "Hollywood Tax" eats it all up anyways. The only way movie theatres can survive is by...

    * exorbitant markups on popcorn/candycocacola/etc.
    *selling a half-hour of ads before the movie begins.

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  18. Re:Stupid by reboot246 · · Score: 2

    Well, that's changing pretty fast now. Are they a Muslim-run country yet? If not, wait a few years.

  19. Re:Cannes's loss by war4peace · · Score: 2

    People going out isn't because they are forced to go to the cinema.
    It's the culture. Children grow up going outdoors, socializing etc., in ways they find enjoyable and result in them doing the same thing through their adulthood.

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  20. Re: Stupid by scottrocket · · Score: 2

    "Have you ever noticed that some folks are made and then just sit on the studio shelf for a while."

    When I was made, I didn't sit on a shelf for awhile! : )

  21. Re:Stupid by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

    and forcibly destroying other cultures within its own country (i.e. Basque) at worst.
    That is no longer true since about 30 years ...

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  22. Re:Stupid by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

    More than a few years. Even the highest estimates only place the Muslim population of France at about 15% by 2050.

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