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A Wanted Man in China Has Been Caught Because of Facial Recognition Software (fastcompany.com)

An anonymous reader writes: The man was reportedly caught after facial recognition software running on cameras at a concert identified him, reports AbacusNews. That's despite there being over 50,000 people attending the concert, which took place in Nanchang, China. Law enforcement in the country has increasingly been turning to facial recognition software to surveil the public for persons of interest.

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  1. Are they sure that it's him? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought all Asians looked alike

    1. Re:Are they sure that it's him? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I thought all Asians looked alike

      Asians think caucasians all look alike. Your brain adjusts to the variation in the types of faces you see on a daily basis. If all your family, friends, co-workers, and acquaintances are white, you will have difficulty discriminating between Asian faces. And vice versa.

      I live in San Jose, California, which is about 35% Asian, so when I go to Asia I have no problem recognizing individual faces.

    2. Re: Are they sure that it's him? by Type44Q · · Score: 2

      So you haven't done any reading on the subject.

  2. Impossiblu! by Kenja · · Score: 2

    They told us time and again that the cameras they put everywhere were too high up to be used for facial recognition.

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  3. Re:In soviet Russia by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I do wonder how many false alerts they got along the way.

  4. And? by Imazalil · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are things so bad that 'works as advertised' is worthy of a news story?

    If only those 50,000 people attending the concert would have to go through some kind of a gate system by which they would trickle through making it easy to identify then a handful at a time. I'm sure someone much smarter than me will figure out such a system, they might even realize they could use it to see if people should be allowed in at the same time. Maybe give out tokens or tickets or something. Or go all web 2.0 and use one of them new-fangled "app" things.

  5. decent riot control too by Karmashock · · Score: 2

    riots are in part encouraged by the perceived lack of consequences to any individual in the riot due to there being too many people.

    camera shutter clicks...

    Face Rec scrubs image after image... wide angel shots...

    police marquee select clouds of names for people standing in the "wrong" area... names get court summons sent to their registered addresses.

    To this people say "masks"... sure masks... I'm sure the police have no solution for that idea.

    Given that the bike lock guy was found, I'd take that very lightly.

    We need more peaceful protests... sit ins... something you really can't get in trouble for... the violent aggressive stuff is toxic. And in the end, society at large won't be on your side when the hammer comes down.

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    1. Re:decent riot control too by Karmashock · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sure... Burn it down.

      Anarchy is self defeating.

      Anarchy leads to tyranny because in the anarchy you create an opportunity for an absolute ruler. We can see this pretty much any time anarchy has been tried. It leads almost immediately to a tyrant. It doesn't matter which ideology you follow... communist fascist whatever... you create anarchy and you're going to get a tyrant.

      If you want a tyrant, create anarchy.

      Once you understand that it isn't as easy as saying "its just the system, man"... you understand that the path to liberty requires maintaining these institutions and guarding them from corruption.

      Absent the institutions we have tyranny.
      Absent moderation of the institutions we have tyranny.

      You have to moderate them. Its not easy. Its really hard. And while you are doing it many players will whisper in your ear to pervert them to service one end or another. But those roads all lead to tyranny.

      I am increasingly of the opinion that there are a lot of people that deserve to live in oppression and possibly starve enough to eat their own cats.

      Why? Because there isn't enough respect for the consequences of fucking up the system.

      People want things for free. People want to eat the golden goose. People want the rules to only apply when they apply to someone else. People want democracy that only does what their dear leader says.

      These contradictions are death. Literal... death. And I'm tired of arguing with people about it. I think they should get the fruits of their ambitions. A whole lot of people should just be allowed to kill themselves with their own bad ideas.

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    2. Re:decent riot control too by Karmashock · · Score: 4, Informative

      why did I reference sit ins if I am ignoring agent provocateurs?

      You do realize the entire point of a sit in is to prevent that sort of thing?

      If everyone is sitting down, how do you "agent provocateur"?

      Just schedule a protest, have everyone show up with water and food for themselves. And then sit down. Everyone sits down.

      The cops will generally leave you alone because you pose no particular threat and the optics of a police officer messing with peaceful people sitting down is terrible.

      Disruptors can't blend into the crowd or do violent stuff and then run away because the actual protestors are all sitting down. There is no crowd to blend into.

      This is not hard. But lets not pretend that these protests are only turning violent by accident. People are showing up to them with weapons, body armor, etc. They want a fight.

      Organize and then sit down. You'll have no trouble. Its really really easy. And the groups that don't do that and have problems are either too stupid to do something so easy or lying about wanting no violence. Because its that easy. Sit down.

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    3. Re:decent riot control too by Karmashock · · Score: 2

      Sure, Martin Luther King's peaceful sitins were of no value. It was just the violence. /s

      The ends are the means, brah. If your means are violence then your ends will be violence. You can see the scars left on communities by people that didn't care what the consequences would be for those families and businesses.

      Your solution is "hellfire"... the fire that burns and leaves nothing but ash. You'll build nothing with that. You'll leave nothing but ruin in your wake which those that live in the ashes will have to deal with...

      What city do you live in? What neighborhood? Imagine it burned. Imagine the stores with the windows blow out and boarded up. Imagine there being no hope of it being rebuilt because the people that would do the rebuilding have left.

      Those are the fruits of your violence. Look at Detroit. Where is the inflection point that turned them from the most wealthy per capita city in the US to a wasteland of run down crack houses?

      Want to live in Ferguson?

      The world you are proposing to create is not worth living in. It is full of ruin, hopelessness, and decay.

      If you want to go somewhere positive then you need to create... not destroy. If you can't even contemplate how that would work then you're the last person to be advising anything.

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    4. Re:decent riot control too by Karmashock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      occupy was asking for what?

      What would have been a win condition for occupy?

      What is more, the peacefulness of occupy is questionable.

      First they were camping there and making a mess. You don't need to do that. MLK Jr didn't do that. They had peaceful orderly civilized clean sit ins and then went home every day to their homes.

      Second, there was quite a lot of harassment in those camps and near them.

      Third, they attracted a lot of gross hippies that caused crime to jump up in the area. Drugs, prostitution, rape, etc.

      Look, if you want to solve your problems by being violent then you're basically betting you have more force on your side than all other factions combined. Because even if you think you outnumber some anti group to you. Do you ALSO outnumber the non-aligned people that want peace and order? Do you outnumber the people that just want to go to work every day and not get harassed by smelly hippies blocking the road?

      You don't.

      Which means if you actually escalate you'll get physically beaten until you submit or killed.

      If that is what you want to do, then do it, comrade.

      All your ideas accomplish if taken to their logical conclusion is install a tyrant that takes away everyone's rights, murders anyone that disagrees with him, and creates a class based power structure where people like you and me will just become peasants under a new nobility.

      And if and when you do that where I live... I will just leave you to starve in that shit. My family came from countries that had fallen to tyranny. We left. And I'll leave again. I will not suffer the consequences of your foolishness. I will leave you to starve in burned out cities surviving on people's skinned pets.

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    5. Re:decent riot control too by Karmashock · · Score: 2

      I saw it in wallstreet... which was where it was... everywhere else was a metoo movement.

      and in any case, what was your end game? What would have accomplishing something have meant?

      Define your objective. Because what I saw at occupy was a bunch of confused people all asking for either contradictory or impossible things.

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    6. Re:decent riot control too by Karmashock · · Score: 2

      When has it not lead to tyranny?

      As to republics being forged in anarchy, give an example.

      I think I can clear up the misunderstanding if we go through the history of this shit show.

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  6. World first for mass surveilance? by gumpish · · Score: 2

    Setting aside the facial recognition component of the story, is the the first time mass surveillance has actually resulted in the apprehension of a fugitive? England is covered with cameras but you never hear stories about them doing any good.