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Pentagon Reports 2000% Increase in Russia Trolls Since Friday (axios.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White said in Saturday's briefing that there has been a "2,000% increase in Russian trolls in the last 24 hours," following the coordinated strike against Syria on Friday night.

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  1. Good gravy by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 3, Funny

    So... what???

    This obsession is insane.

    I predict a 3000% increase in Rickrolling.

    1. Re:Good gravy by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As long as they stick to trolling, they can't do much more damage than they already have. At this point, you're either aware of them, or your mind is already in an alternate universe where kids get molested in nonexistent pizzeria basements by a presidential candidate who fits the typical pedo demographic to a "T". (Although I think I missed the episodes of To Catch a Predator where elderly female politicians arrive at the door with pizzas.)

      The Russians would get more payoff at this point from cyberattacking the electrical grid on Election Day. But those who are in a position to prevent this don't seem to mind the trolling at all.

    2. Re:Good gravy by intnsred · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I predict a 3000% increase in Rickrolling.

      And I predict a 4000% increase in Pentagon trolls.

      Or are we not supposed to acknowledge the fact that the US gov't pays people and wages propaganda wars on the Internet?

    3. Re: Good gravy by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Conservatives have an annoying habit of ascribing their own motives and behaviour to liberals.

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    4. Re:Good gravy by intnsred · · Score: 4, Informative

      So can you give me some links to the "Pentagon trolls?

      Sure, here is some relevant reading:

      Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda
      Pentagon ramping up public relations offensive: Agency moves to bolster image in face of mounting criticism of Iraq war
      U.S. Media Knew Kosovo Reports Were Propaganda
      Meet The State Department Team Trying To Troll ISIS Into Oblivion
      Military Plays Up Role of Zarqawi -- "The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers..."
      Pentagon Paid for Fake âAl Qaedaâ(TM) Videos
      The Government's Social Media Propaganda Machine
      âoeOn the Offensiveâ: US State Dept. Gives $40M Boost to âoeTroll Farmâ Propaganda Efforts
      How the American government is trying to control what you think

      That should get you started.

      Of course, our mass media tends not to emphasize such American skulduggery and propaganda. They'll do an initial report on the issue, but it's rarely, if ever, put into the news loop and repeated over and over and over again. Funny how that works, eh? It makes one think of Ted Turner, the founder of CNN, who once bluntly said, "There's really five companies that control 90 percent of what we read, see and hear."

      If you want any more you'll have to search for it.

    5. Re: Good gravy by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People have an annoying habit of ascribing their own motives and behaviour to other people.
      FTFY.

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  2. Yeah, Slashdot has become wildly 'conservative'... by RyanFenton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Basically, anything Trump flavored has had a pretty heavy tilt in its moderation, towards the pro-Trump. I've worked in a lot of rural areas, and the brand of angry conservatism/superlibertarianism is pretty rare among IT/Software guys. But for some reason, it's hyper-represented on Slashdot in the past few years.

    Not that folks can't hold that view - it just seems disproportionate, compared to the population.

    Ryan Fenton

  3. Re:Yeah, Slashdot has become wildly 'conservative' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The media, hollywood, most comedians, all of the big tech companies, and most social media is 24-7 hardcore anti-Trump for almost 2 straight years now. You see a couple of posts on slashdot that are right-leaning get modded up and all of a sudden it's "wildly conservative" now.

    Might want to get your sensitivity meter adjusted just a touch.

  4. Re: Yeah, Slashdot has become wildly 'conservative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have you ever considered that might be the work of Russian trolls?
    They're known to play both sides so they can control the dialogue completely.

  5. Where's the evidence? by GrBear · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The story doesn't even provide any evidence.. just some two paragraph statement that we're supposed to take as fact. The story itself is pretty vague.

    Trolling where? Examples?

    Sounds and smells like fake news.

    1. Re:Where's the evidence? by Major+Blud · · Score: 4, Informative

      Agreed, I have never heard of Axios until I just now clicked the link to check out this story.

      Judging by some of the other articles on their website, I can't tell if they're biased, sneaky, or just plain sloppy.

      For example, they are running an article on "How Congress reacted to the strikes on Syria", with the reactions being "for" or "against". They labeled the following from Lindsey Graham as "against":

      Sen. Lindsey Graham said in a statement: "President Trump deserves credit for working with our allies and ordering this strike against Assad...But I fear that when the dust settled this strike will be seen as a weak military response...It's not the type of sustained, game-changing strategy that will lead to Assad, Russia, or Iran changing or reevaluating their strategy in Syria."

      I'd hardly label this call for more of a "sustained, game-changing" strategy as being "against" the airstrikes.

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    2. Re:Where's the evidence? by Lord_Jeremy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Axios is a major news site that was launched by a group of guys from Politico. Their mission statement is to be anti-clickbait and anti-advertising. Some of the commentators I listen (like FiveThirtyEight) have mentioned that Axios gets a lot of deep scoops from within the administration, compared to some of the household name outlets these days. They're definitely not right-wing, but I don't believe that automatically makes them left-wing. They don't have any editorials and the articles I've read have been pretty matter-of-fact.

  6. Re:Yeah, Slashdot has become wildly 'conservative' by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's more the down modding of any dissenting opinions that are critical of trump that are the problem. Even when they do end up with a positive score there are always troll and flamebait mods too.

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  7. A 2000% increase in Russia trolls since friday? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, there's no need to panic until it's over 9000%.

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  8. The trade war America can win by fibonacci8 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I take this to mean that American trolls are slacking. This calls for massive tariffs on imported troll posts so that the balance shifts to locally sourced, free-range, gluten and asbestos free troll posts. Step it up folks! Those likes, reblogs, and follows won't generate themselves!

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  9. Re:Oh no by quantaman · · Score: 5, Informative

    So we're now calling people who dissent to bombing another country without the approval of congress trolls. Isn't this McCarthyism?

    Except in this case there's every reason to think that the majority of these people are directly (or indirectly) in the employ of the Russian government and under orders to advance Russian interests by influencing public opinion in the US.

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  10. Insults and innuendo by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's more the down modding of any dissenting opinions that are critical of trump that are the problem. Even when they do end up with a positive score there are always troll and flamebait mods too.

    Try sorting the dissenting opinions into "insults" versus "insight".

    Almost all the "dissenting opinions" here are just simple name calling and deserve to be modded down.

    Most of the rest are simple "I think $THE_OPPOSITE", with no background or support.

    If you look at comments with that filter, I think you'll find that it's the insults that get modded down.

    True insightful posts tend to get modded up.

  11. Re:Oh no by HornWumpus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'every reason': No, it's just the narrative that has been pushed since the bitch blew the election.

    We have 'every reason' to be very suspicious of this narrative.

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  12. We really don't know what that means. by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not without knowing the criteria the Pentagon is using to brand an actor as a "troll".

    That said, I doubt an increase in activity of that magnitude from state agents is feasible. You don't keep 95% of your workforce slack. So for this to be true, either they hired a lot of people in a hurry, or they moved a lot of their trolls off of other projects onto the anti-America beat. But the thing is, that takes specialized language skills and training for a Russian.

    I don't doubt that paid Russian anti-American trolls are working overtime, but I very much doubt they've upped their output by 21x. We are very likely to be looking at an increase in activity by a mix of paid mindfuckers and Internet randos who are doing it for their own reasons.

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  13. I'd love to see their methodology by Karmashock · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It could be literally this simple "Russians curious about what is going on are checking US media and social media"... literally that.

    I mean, who thinks they're doing quality control on that number?

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  14. Re:Yeah, Slashdot has become wildly 'conservative' by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm a (former) CPU engineer :) The science is here has mostly dropped to cargo cult level. It's the same with many other subjects.

  15. Re:Oh no by flopsquad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Troll checklist:
    1) Strident
    2) Inflammatory
    3) Illogical non sequitur
    4) Anon
    5) First post
    Confirmed troll. If I had to wager, I'd put money on alt-right false flagger rather than Russian, but anymore that could be the same thing...

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  16. Re:Yeah, Slashdot has become wildly 'conservative' by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    noticed.

    I'm very liberal and when I post my strong dislike for the R's that are ruining things for all of us, I get modded down very unrealistically, compared to how slash used to be (note, I do have a low enough number to know what slash used to be like in the early days).

    IT is not conservative; slash is mostly IT based and yet the R's come here in storm and mod things down in a pretty organized manner.

    I'd say there are definitely paid shills and trolls here and have been over about 10 years, now.

    I dont' really care; since I realize that this place has long been invaded and ruined. I still speak my mind and the message still does get out. but it is a shame that the invasion of social media has mostly ruined it, as a true communication medium.

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  17. Re:Yeah, Slashdot has become wildly 'conservative' by bazorg · · Score: 4, Funny

    It can't be easy to be make a living as a pro-Trump comedian. The man is a parody of our times.

  18. Re: Oh no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who cares? The question is whether his statements are correct.

  19. Re:Oh no by Frank+Burly · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I can't speak for the parent (who was modded down for no discernible reason), but I took "every reason to think" to refer to statements that had no good-faith evidence, like that the UK poisoned a former Russian spy with Russian nerve poison, or that the people Syria were faking their exposure to nerve poisons.

    There are all sorts of good reasons reasons to be against military intervention (by the U.S. and Russia) but the troll arguments typically blossom only when the US and EU forces are the ones intervening, and their post-truth framing of the issues is often a tell.

    Honestly, the cries of McCarthyism about this issue are also evidence of either being a mark, or in on the con.

  20. Re: Yeah, Slashdot has become wildly 'conservative by tinkerton · · Score: 4, Funny

    You're on to us. Actually the Russian trolls are the only commenters left on this site. And bots of course. It's a honeypot site for the occasional visitor who strays onto the site. I spend most of the time quarrelling with myself under different ids in the hope I manage to trap a visitor. It's a lot of work.

  21. Re: Oh no by sycodon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Trolls" and "Russian" are merely the latest in the long list of throw away invectives used to dismiss someone with a different opinion.

    Both sides do this, although in the last year, "Russian" has moved to the top of invectives, replacing, "Racist!". But only by a small margin.

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