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Microsoft Delays Windows 10 Spring Creators Update Because of 'Higher Percentage of BSODs' (bleepingcomputer.com)
Microsoft has admitted that it had to postpone the release of Spring Creators Update, the upcoming major update to its Windows 10 desktop operating system due to technical issues. BleepingComputer notes: More precisely, Microsoft says it encountered a higher percentage of Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) errors on PCs, the company's Insiders Program managers said in a blog post yesterday. Microsoft says that instead of shipping the Springs Creators Update faulty as it was, and then delivering an update later to fix the issues, it decided to hold off on deploying the defective build altogether. The OS maker says it will create and test a new Windows 10 build that also includes the BSOD fixes, and ship that one instead of Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 17134, the build that was initially scheduled to be launched as the Spring Creators Update on April 10, last week.
Is it true? Does a major software vendor actually care more about quality than meeting deadlines?
I swoon.
Haven't seen a BSOD in months (except from faulty hardware).
Thanks?
I find it quite disturbing that they were even considering releasing this obviously faulty build and fixing it later. Do they not care about the name brand? It's already got people pissed off as it is.
Meanwhile, the update that I got about 10 days ago broke the ability of this computer to do the "no password required" bootup. It would give an error message and tell me unless I logged out and then logged in myself, my creations wouldn't be accessible in the future. Or something like that. Ran a few diagnostics / fixes such as scannow and it passed fine. So now, rather than run around and try to find the cause, I'm just waiting for the next update to fix it. The laptop is working fine, no problems with no-password bootup. Its just that a month ago, while on a cross-country trek from Virginia to Arizona, something happened (probably another update) and the keyboard and touchpad stopped working. Then, 2 days later, it magically began working again. (Probably another update.) Win 10 computers are getting to be really unreliable because of the updates dicking with them all the time.
Windows 10 Spring Creators Update 2018:
Coming the Winter of 2019.
real amateurism. Nice job MS.
The fact that something like this can happen should make everybody wonder about what MS is doing really, they don't even seem to know themselves.
Just more confirmation of our suspicions.
They really need to stop letting their marketing dept name their software updates. Calling all of their different OS builds "Creators Update" creates nothing but confusion and does nothing to properly identify the build/version number.
I've got a SP4 and with whatever update they forced on me last week the windows all think I'm in vertical orientation after it sleeps and won't expand greater than the margin (even though I've left the keyboard attached, have the options set to desktop mode only and the desktop itself is still in desktop orientation!).
The only way to fix it is a reboot!
Microsoft - we updated your computer while you slept - figure out what we broke today! What fun!
I've been using the latest Win10 update and my computer is justttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
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They aren't delaying it for BSODs. Why do they care. They release updates like that all the time.
What broke is the user tracking software. That is why they are delaying it.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
This is what it brings you. Software is not done on a schedule. It is done when it is done. Too many companies are like - ship it on the date, high five and move on, but there is no point in MS doing that because windows is free these days.
Have fun with that 'new' windows.
Just like those racist bigot White Male programmers to create a RACIST computer program that unfairly and systematically opresses proud strong women of Color!
Makes me sick
What happens when they have buildings filled to the brim with software engineers working on projects/components, but each new component has a small chance of adding a new bluescreen on a subset of machines?
The whole point of Windows 10 was supposed to be that it was the end-state, the stage where all further upgrades would be updates to this. But lashing another sail onto the boat doesn't seem to be adding the thust expected, or bring the income desired.
They really wanted the Windows Store to be the future too - just like Metro was going to be the perfect union of touch-phone interfaces and desktop interactions (well, by forcing everything to just be touch-phone, and insulting anyone that disagreed).
But no one uses Windows Store. It most certainly is not an improvement on the flawed Apple store or other marketplaces.
Then there's the data gathering. I'm sure they market that information to folks (in aggregate) - but I'm also pretty sure that they aren't going to see the returns they might dream about for selling access to that information, compared to their dreams of being some super-Google.
Probably the biggest source of instability has been the DRM and protection systems. Locks and keys designed to, well, lock things up on anything being off tend to... lock things up. And there's teams of teams constantly working on those.
Windows is still a money machine. PC sales aren't at peak at the instant, but there's still mountains of money for selling OS licenses on most new systems.
So, they bounce between ideas still - cross compatibility with XBox game images - but they link it with Windows Store, so it's basically like signing a cult marriage contract. Strait up ports of some games, but the same Store logic kills that idea. Tools to help manage things - but they keep making the interface Metro compatible, so folks drop it as soon as they can find a better tool.
The overall story is that they still have folks there dreaming that their failed pet ideas are still the future, an unlimited income stream that just needs tweaking. They need to identify that, and get past those folks - especially if they're managers.
Then be OK with just making the best OS they can, without trying to loop everything back into some infinite income stream. The golden goose is good enough - work on the nest, NOT a butcher shop.
Ryan Fenton
Spring Creators Mess Update..... err... MASS MASS... oh never mind.
ms spy to russ?))
At least Microsoft learned from the botched deployment of RS2 (aka Redstone-2, or the "Creators Update") which didn't work well on anything older than Skylake for several months. Looks like it is going to take them similar amounts of time to stabilize RS4 (Spring Creators Update... I wish they would just call it RS4 instead of coming up with meaningless marketing names) but at least they won't hold people's machines hostage in the meantime.
This is a natural consequence of the new world order Microsoft established with Windows 10. Now, the more money you pay for your Windows license, the more stability you get. At the bottom rung is the "insiders" who can actually install Windows totally for free. But they will always and forever be using beta releases, never will they be on a officially released version. Instead of paying MSFT with money, you pay them by giving away free QA. Next up is the people with the "Home" license. Most people are in this category. They get the newest release forced up their butt every 6 months. Next up if you paid for the "Pro" license you get a checkbox that lets you delay the newest release until another release is given after that. Finally, if you pay through the teeth for an enterprise license, then you get the Windows 7 level of service, highly tested stable releases every 3 years.
This is why I have Windows, MacOS, and Linux computers at home -- hopefully at least one group of them works at any given time
They've had how many years to get this right?
Congratulations YOU. YOU are the WORLD.
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When they laid off most of their QA folks
I get end-user testing, early preview releases are a good thing, I preach it and live it but frankly these wholesale massive semi-annual fuck-overs to add one or two "features" is annoying as fuck. Every time there's hardware compatibility problems, delays in releasing them because they're refreshing the whole fucking planet. I get that they want to unify frameworks, that's good but for god's sake stop with this 1GB+ downloads and installs that fail over and over again until they finally get it right. Hopefully this should serve as a wake-up to Redmond that they're fucking over their customers and like me a lot of them are minimizing their exposure to Windows OS at least on the desktop.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
Face it already.
Microsoft's Windows is a toy.
A broken one.
And for rather retarded kids.
Am I the only one who thinks "agile" is a stupid metodology to use on an OS?
It's supposed to be stable. How does this benefit Microsoft?
Essentially, the summary of most of the comments above is that windows 10 is unfit for any serious use (unless - possibly - you get the "Extremely Expensive Entrprise Edition"
Meanwhile, you can, for example, get 10-year supported, ultra-stable CentOS version for free.
It's pretty clear now that if you use your PC for anything serious, you should run Linux (or *BSD) on the bare metal and if you *must* have Windows applications, run them in a VM. This means you should be able to roll back bad updates to the last VM snapshot.
Assuming (a) you have sufficient RAM and (b) don't run any software that is no good in a VM, can any Windows advocate show reasons why you should *not* run Windows 10 under a Linux VM in order to mitigate the sort of issues described above (not just the current, avoided issue, all the other issues they detail)?
Junkware.
Bull Shit Over Dose
The OS sucks sorry but it's not even news.
Windows Update MiniTool =FTW!!!
Seriously, after having my computer caught multiple times in endless loops of downloading some huge update that doesn't work for whatever reason then re-downloading, ad nauseum, the 2 mentioend tools have given me full control to download what updates I want and block the rest.
As a long-time Microsoft user/?fan? I'm forced to ask: Microsoft, WHAT THE F*CK ARE YOU THINKING!?! Way to pi$$ off your customers.
You're not. But how does this benefit Microsoft? That's not quite the right question to ask. Microsoft will benefit as long as people buy their products. Whether it has something to do with their stability remains to be seen.
it's OK by me if the update has a lower percentage of BSODs. You can just add some more in a point release.
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Seriously, once the Shanghai QA center became the responsible point for Windows Update QA (and thus firing all the old guard QA testers in Redmond because they cost too much), everything has gone downhill.
At least some of the testers have moved on to various exploit shops...
Wait, so isn't the point of having 1000000's of insider/beta testers (like my father, he loves it) supposed to screen/pickup anything major like this?
How can they release a major update that's so broken?
I always remember a few years ago when they did.... Windows 8? They were bragging that the BSOD was gone........ ...Because it would now be red. Reminds me of when they got rid of the 360's red ring of death - by removing the ring.