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Microsoft Drops OneNote From Office, Pushes Users To Windows 10 Version (venturebeat.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Microsoft is making big changes to OneNote for Windows: The desktop app will no longer be included in Microsoft Office. Instead, OneNote for Windows 10, the UWP app, will be the default OneNote experience for both Office 365 and Office 2019. OneNote for Mac, Android, iOS, and the web are unaffected. The move shouldn't be a huge surprise for those paying close attention to OneNote's development. Back in February 2015, Microsoft made OneNote for Windows completely free by removing all feature restrictions. This untethering of OneNote from Office meant users could download OneNote 2013 for Windows 7 and Windows 8 without having to pay for Office 2013.
I only really used it on Windows Phone, where it is easy to take a picture of something and create custom note along with it. Like a wine you had at a restaurant.
I know I havent played with it in a bit, but doesn't the UWP app and site have WAY less features that the desktop version.
If that is still true, this idea can go fuck itself.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
Other than minor security updates and sneaking in telemetry Windows 7 and 8.1 are abandoned by Microsoft. Microsoft will make more of its software Windows 10 only way before 2020/3 and try to get everyone in the Microsoft Store Ecosystem.
Rip office one note, officially extinguished now. Yet another product falls prey to Microsoft's evil tactics!
OneNote becomes ZeroNote
OneNote is great, I mean it's no Notepad++ which is for editing files. Its for keeping searchable books of notes and screenshots. I use Onenote all day every day, but the UWP onenote version sucks. I really hope they don't narf one of my favorite tools. I'd hate to have to go back to Evernote.
They can pry 7 from my cold dead hands
Or, hopefully, WINE might be good enough to play all the game by then.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
Ah, the bliss of being Microsoft-ignorant. Even better when one can make a very good living, while having fun - and remaining ensconced in such ignorance.
I have both versions of OneNote on my Windows 10 machine at home. Sometimes it brings up the universal version, and I go "What is this? This isn't onenote is it? oh, it's that crappy version." Then I close it and open the real one. Universal Apps f*ing suck. The only way Windows 10 is useful to a power user is if they turn off all the universal apps and replace them with real Windows applications. Microsoft should have given up on this garbage when Windows 8 bombed. They destroyed what was left of their OS, and now it is only useful for running Visual Studio, Office, legacy applications. Oh, and games.
From the article:
And still, there are OneNote 2016 features that aren’t in OneNote for Windows 10. Microsoft is asking users to help prioritize what to port over by submitting suggestions in Windows 10’s Feedback Hub.
Yess!! This same sad story exists for all their UWP apps. Ex: The Windows XP "Picture and fax viewer" has more features than the "Photos" viewer that comes in Windows 10. It's the same with their new .NET stuff. Entity Framework ".NET Core" doesn't have all the features of Entity Framework 6 for .NET. And they have a page for submitting requests for features, which is full of closed issues for things they won't ever do. The Windows Mail app is functionally inferior to the old Outlook Express app that used to come with Windows. Every time they re-invent themselves, they force themselves to rewrite all their own software, ultimately delivering less and less functionality while offering less and less freedom.
This is why Steambox is exiting: The day most of my games support Linux, a lot of people will be out of reasons to keep using Windows. UWP isn't keeping anybody on the platform.
the default OneNote experience
I just want to throttle anyone that uses the word "experience" like that with the exception of anyone talking about the Arnold Rimmer or Jimi Hendrix Experience.
UWP and Windows 7 doesn't mix. One hopes that the current OneNote will still be available too...
When will they remove the 50 MB file size limit? The office version doesnâ(TM)t have it.
The gratis version was the one where you can't save locally but need to store all your notes in the cloud, right?
Instant dealbreaker.
The Palm Pilot was a good substitute for certain info like phone numbers and addresses. But it didn't have the flexibility nor the capacity for the massive number of notes I generated. Before the Palm Pilot, I used an HP 200 LX (basically a palmtop version of the original IBM PC). When I ran across OneNote, it was the perfect solution for all my note-taking.
If you have exceptionally good memory (mine is good, but it's good enough that I know when I've forgotten stuff), or don't mind doing things again if you can't remember (I hate repeating work that I've already done), then you probably won't care about it. But if you like to keep details of everything you've done for future reference, almost like a diary, it's indispensable. It's a good central place where I can write nearly anything down, and be able to rearrange, delete, and search the contents quickly and easily.
Flipping through a few pages of my OneNote notebook, I have things like the exact sequence of commands needed to manually map one of my raw drives to a virtual one on my ESXi server, my phone's IMEI (which has long since rubbed off the back) and MSL code to unlock it, list of static IP addresses I've given devices on my LAN, GPS coordinates for ocean fishing spots (so they're not stuck on my chartplotter), how to modify the Windows registry so focus follows the mouse like in X Window, hardware specs for my custom-built server so I don't have to open it or go digging through old receipts to find model numbers, all the info (contacts, addresses, rentals, airport schedules, price comparisons, travel schedules, etc) for the eclipse trip I planned in 2017 for friends and family, a list of charitable donations I've made for the year (for tax purposes), and on and on. All there in one place, semi-organized, and easily modifiable and searchable.
I liked the desktop version of OneNote. I even uninstall the one from Windows 10 as I like the features and integration with OneDrive for Business and the browser plugins to OneNote a page.
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Ever since Works was a useless pile of crap, I haven't touched One Note. I legitimately have no idea what it even does. Is it some kind of keyword tagging organization/project thing that tries to sell you more products like Works did?
Poorly constructed headline.
Microsoft only dropped it from office 2019. You can continue to use the desktop versions of 2010,2013, and 2016 and OneNote desktop won't ever be uninstalled. But yes office 2019 will not support Windows 7. It is MacOSX Sierra and Windows10+ only. If you use Office 2019 it won't matter anyway as you will be using Windows 10
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I still have no idea what it is.. all I know it crashes every now and then on my desktop and mobile, too. I have never felt the urge to find out what it is and what it should do.
What about those of us using Office 365 (which afaik doesn't allow you to install any version other than the most recent) on desktop Windows (aka. Windows 7)?
Will we be forced to switch to OSX, once Office 365 switches to Office 2019, and Microsoft still can't convince us that a touch interface makes any sense in an office environment?
I use OneNote regularly, both at work and home, and heavily for organizing D&D/RPG campaigns. There are too many features (the tagging, is incredibly important) missing from Windows 10 OneNote for me to make the switch. Once there's enough parity, I could probably migrate, but it's seriously impaired without the features that make it most useful.
One note Spying Edition which forces you to utilize the microsoft store so they can know who you are and tell you what you can and can't do with YOUR PC, installing any software on it they want, activating the Advertising ID that's IN THIS OS and other user-hostile features. No thanks.
I actually use OneNote across a Windows PC, a Mac, and my phone while syncing all of my notebooks to OneDrive. It has become a challenging experience over the years; the feature parity between each version is laughable to the point that anything I do away from the PC is a "draft" so I can correct the formatting later on 2016. Syncing is also terrible despite my notebooks existing in Microsoft's own ecosystem. It is a slow and unreliable process - too often does OneNote report that there were errors syncing, with no solution other than to try to close and reopen the notebook, hoping my changes aren't lost. On top of that, Notebooks exist in two different formats depending on which version of OneNote they were created with, and not every version treats them equally. When I look at my "Notebooks" directory in OneDrive, half of them are a nested subdirectory structure while others are just a .url shortcut which opens the notebook in OneNote Online, and even that isn't consistent because on some devices they'll display as a group of links to each section in the notebook while others are a .one file and there is apparently no way to convert between them, forcing me to make sure I only ever create new notebooks from 2016 so that it doesn't further degrade into the unmanageable mess it already is. God forbid I want to share my notebooks with anyone to collaborate; emailing umpteen revisions of Word docs back and forth is legitimately easier, and that's depressing.
What happens to my notebooks when features I use are no longer supported in any current version of OneNote? How does this in any way advance OneNote as a brand that people should want to use? Even the UWP version doesn't play nice with other feature-limited versions, so what's the point? What kind of marketing strategy is "Use this version - it does less and offers no advantages whatsoever" supposed to be?
Zim Wiki all the way on both my Windows and Linux systems.
Avoid lock-in to the MS dead end.