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Democratic Party Files Suit Alleging Russia, the Trump Campaign, and WikiLeaks Conspired To Disrupt the 2016 Election (cnbc.com)
The Democratic Party is suing Russia, the Trump campaign and the whistle-blowing website Wikileaks for conspiring to disrupt the 2016 presidential election. From a report: The multi-million-dollar lawsuit filed in Manhattan federal court says that "In the Trump campaign, Russia found a willing and active partner in this effort" to mount "a brazen attack on American Democracy," which included Russian infiltration of the Democratic Party computer network. The Trump campaign, according to the lawsuit, "gleefully welcomed Russia's help." The suit says that "preexisting relationships with Russia and Russian oligarchs" with Trump and Trump associates "provided fertile ground for [the] Russia-Trump conspiracy." The common purpose of the scheme, according to the Democratic National Committee, was to "bolster Trump and denigrate the Democratic Party nominee," Hillary Clinton, while boosting the candidacy of Trump, "whose policies would benefit the Kremlin." Tom Perez, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said the party's suit "is not partisan, it's patriotic."
Clinton is running again, that should be obvious to all now. This is the funniest thing I've seen in a long, LONG time!
By actively preventing Bernie from getting the democratic nomination they made a Trump victory much more likely. Tons of people voted "not Hillary" with their Trump vote.
I'm not saying there was no Russian collusion, but lets look at all the reasons.
And more importantly Democratic Party got caught red handed by our Russian hackers conspiring to rig the primaries.
Time to stop publicly funding the partisan primary system. We shouldn't be publicly subsidizing secret cabals of rich well connected people conspiring to get "their people" into our government.
They couldn't stand the whisper campaign that Trump himself practiced for say, Obama's Birth Certificate, or Hillary Clinton's alleged crimes, they couldn't handle the investigation by Mueller despite calling for endless inquiries into Benghazi, Whitewater and whatever else. They couldn't even take it when people pointed out that Trump's endless pompous proclamations and self-professed boasting were challenged.
And wow did they howl when Trump's attorney got raided due to evidence of his acts of various malfeasance being too odious to ignore.
Now? Now it'll be something in a court of law, and everybody will get to watch.
Expect them to protest with their empty-handed declarations, that they'll make up in volume what they lack in substance.
No mention of the SecureWorks analysis in the lawsuit..?
https://www.secureworks.com/re...
Was the most interesting assessment.
This will get thrown out....
It will take awhile, to be sure, but it will get tossed by the first judge who actually looks at the lack of evidence.
Remember, you can sue ANYBODY for ANYTHING by walking down to the courthouse and paying the fees.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Up until now, the Democrats have generally behaved properly in respect of the Russia investigation, leaving the interference and unwarranted attacks on law enforcement to the White House and the Republicans. However, I was distressed to read about this.
It is totally inappropriate to engage in this kind of political theater while Mueller's investigation is ongoing. When Trump and the Republicans are lying and attempting to interfere, by all means denounce their actions forcefully. However, lowering yourself to their level just feeds into the narrative that all politicians are the same, and they are all unprincipled conmen. It makes it harder to defend the institutions that are under attack.
I really believe if a small group of 10 Democrats and 10 Republicans in Congress could come together to denounce all anti-democratic activities, and pledge to act together in the country's best interests, they would do themselves and the country a great deal of good. The silent majority would applaud them. I am not holding my breath. I appreciate, by the way, that acting ethically here is more difficult for the Republicans as their administration has a lot to lose. However, I think that they could present their actions as heroic and vastly enhance their personal reputations in the process.
Anything that distracts from the real news of what they were actually up to at the time works for them. They didn't consider Trump an actual threat, they anointed Hillary and damaged their own rather than let party supporters decide, broke laws, spun lies - you know same thing the Republicans do.
Both parties are rotten to the core and the system is set up in a way that you can't get rid of them. Good luck America, you're going to need it!
When I read the national chairman of a political party saying
I hear a gangster saying
--- Mercutio was right.
Why don't you instead try to convince people outside of your various interest and grievance groups that you are actually worth voting for?
Here's a tip: if a clown can beat you, the problem isn't the clown ...
Is that the Russians supposedly did a terrible, un-patriotic, anti-American thing, by revealing the truth to the American people. And people are screaming "oh my God, no! The truth is a threat to American Democracy!" I mean, does Hillary get any blame for what was contained in those emails? No. The evil thing was that the plebes found out what was in them. We basically operate under the assumption that, if we ever knew what they were saying behind the scenes, we would never vote for any American politician. I mean, perish the thought that we'd ever be relieved ... that we'd ever be pleasantly suprised were a politicians emails to be revealed. That's not even in the realm of possibility. The whole system is rigged so badly, that the truth, the TRUTH, is a poison pill for American politics. We really have nobody to blame but ourselves for this. Voting for the lessor of two evils for 200 years ensures we always get evil and we're clearly good with that. You can't make the arguement that we deserve better. So, anyway, yeah, Democrats suing for revealing the truth to the American people ... and proudly suing at that. Calling it Patriotic even. Weep for us.
The DNC definitely didn't help itself by putting forward such a boring, unpopular candidate and then doing seemingly everything they could to prevent Bernie from winning.
By actively preventing Bernie from getting the democratic nomination they made a Trump victory much more likely. Tons of people voted "not Hillary" with their Trump vote.
It's come out that Russia influenced this too. As soon as Bernie was out of the way, they doubled down stoking the fires to get Bernie supporters mad at Hillary. I doubt any significant amount of people who were voting on policy ended up switching, but those who were voting emotionally to begin with were probably pretty easy targets.
They're serving Wikileaks with discovery? Imagine what they'll find.
Discover will produce Nothing... Wikileaks has no presence in the USA so there is nothing within the jurisdiction of US law enforcement to discover. Same with the majority of the remaining defendants... There will be nothing to the court can do to force discovery.
Of course, that doesn't preclude Wikilieaks from providing information about this voluntarily. Assuage has already discussed how these E-mail's came into Wikileaks hands during a TV interview with Shawn Hannity, but I don't think the Democrats want that information out in the open because it pretty much ends this lawsuit.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Who is paying for all this? The DNC was reportedly broke at the beginning of the year. Are they taking money from campaign donations to fund frivolous lawsuits now? [source] http://theweek.com/speedreads/...
Hilary and the DNC actively promoted Trump, because they thought he was the easiest candidate to beat.
Hillary, far more than Russia, is the reason Trump is president.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The really funny thing about that election to me was, there was absolutely no other Democrat Trump could have beat - but there was no other Republican Hillary could have lost to.
Trump is lite a literal embodiment of proof there is fate or some higher power at work.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Calling out Trump supporters as Russian trolls is ridiculous on its face. A bit under half the country voted for him, and a lot of them post on forums.
That whole narrative lost my interest early on as I don't ascribe to the view that "Russian trolls" are particularly better or more effective at trolling our own elections than our home grown trolls, which are legion, better funded, more fanatic, and native speakers.
--- Mercutio was right.
DNC thinks it can prove what Mueller couldn't so far. Frankly, the collusion conspiracy theory is getting so tiring. The Dems have gone insane and they will lose the White House again in 2020 because they can't seem to offer any new vision for the party.
Everyone already knew Trump was a vulgar clown. We voted for him anyway as a rejection of the establishment. Clinton, the DNC and RNC are all desperate to maintain that establishment and will do/say anything to preserve it.
Trump's administration did the exact same thing and since they knew better, that's intent to commit a crime. But no screams of "lock them up!"
Please show where they have done this, and please show intent.
Also, keep in mind that the President can declassify and release shit at will.
And there may be collusion with our President and a foreign power
Please show one shred of evidence. Then show how it is illegal. What one calls collusion another calls diplomacy. See all the "diplomacy" HRC and WJC engaged in during, and after their official roles.
a foreign power that wants to see our demise.
Please show which foreign power that is and show that we are at war with them. Hint: The US is not at war with any nation. The US has not been at war since WWII. The US has not had official "enemies" since WWII. Further, all UN member nations are allies of the US.
And you want everyone to move on because he won?
If this is what our country has become - our guy is in, so who cares how he got there! - then we don't deserve the freedoms we have.
We want you to move on because your song and dance is tiring and has been exposed as bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. The fact is he won. The fact is he got there far more cleanly than HRC tried to, even if you believe the "collusion" bullshit. Hint - the media isn't even pushing that story anymore. We have official word that DJT isn't the target of a criminal investigation. Their new things are tying him to a washed up porn star and getting mad that he has the audacity to fire (or have his administration fire) corrupt, criminal clowns.
Is it because the investigation is still ongoing and when one is running an investigation like this one doesn't make an announcement every time they've found something?
I bet it's that.
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Well to be fair, he only had a couple months with legislative control and he spent that overhauling the most complex system in the country. Republicans blocked everything else, but I guess that makes him weak for not arresting them or something.
Trump on the other hand has accomplished a lot of bad things - removing regulations that help consumers, the environment, businesses, starting a trade war that will raise prices for American consumers, to name just a few
"Clearly you hate women, and probably black people also, but the thing is that we are not going to MAGA like it's the 1950s. You have to move one, fucktard."
Clearly you can't read and have no sense or memory of history. All you can do is name call using tired, over used tropes of "hate" and "racism". Hillary said "All women must be heard!" AFTER she spent a lifetime attacking Bill's sexual abuse victims as if they were porn stars angling current politics to make a buck. It's not the 1960s Marxist revolution, even if your "brown shirt" AntiFa, disguised in Black shirts, think it is, You should be moving on.
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Don't be a grammer Notsie. Irregardless, if you're going to tow that line you will have a hard roll to hoe. For all intensive purposes, it doesn't make any deference; it's a mute point.