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AI Will Wipe Out Half the Banking Jobs In a Decade, Experts Say

Experts in the industry say that current advances in artificial intelligence and automation could replace as many as half the nation's financial services workers over the next decade, though it will take a big investment to make that happen. The Mercury News reports: "Unless banks deal with the performance issues that AI will cause for ultra-large databases, they will not be able to take the money gained by eliminating positions and spend it on the new services and products they will need in order to stay competitive," James D'Arezzo, CEO of Glendale-based Condusiv Technologies, said. Intensive hardware upgrades are often cited as an answer to the problem, but D'Arezzo said that's prohibitively expensive.

Speaking to an audience last year in Frankfurt, Germany, Deutsche Bank CEO John Cryan predicted a "bonfire" of industry jobs as automation moves forward. "In our bank we have people doing work like robots," he said. "Tomorrow we will have robots behaving like people. It doesn't matter if we as a bank will participate in these changes or not, it is going to happen." Increased processing power, cloud storage and other developments are making many tasks possible that once were considered too complex for automation, according to Cryan. D'Arezzo, whose company works to improve existing software performance, said the financial industry is being swamped by "a tsunami of data," including new compliance requirements for customer privacy and constantly changing bank regulations.
Bhagwan Chowdhry, a professor of finance and economics at the UCLA Anderson School of Management, offers a less bleak view of the future. "Technology will eliminate some jobs that are repetitive and require less human judgment," he said, "But I think they will get replaced by other jobs that humans are better at. Anything that requires judgment is something humans will continue to do. We are not good at multiplying 16-digit numbers, but we're good at judging people and detecting if someone is telling the truth."

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  1. Al? by Richard+Stalin · · Score: 2

    Who is Al, and why should I be afraid of him?

  2. Only if it learns COBOL by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Otherwise it will never figure out how to access the data.

  3. Soon AI Blockchain Clouds will rule the world. by Mr307 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes computers will make more trades and replace some workers in the financial arena, but its not AI, its still good expert systems.

    We used to have editors that knew some tech stuff and wouldn't just spam clickbait all the time.

    1. Re:Soon AI Blockchain Clouds will rule the world. by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We used to have editors that knew some tech stuff and wouldn't just spam clickbait all the time.

      Maybe they were already replaced by some AI machinery years ago, editors have been sitting on a beach somewhere sipping Margarita's, and even us haven't been smart enough to figure it out. Good job there /., your AI gear passed the Turing test!

    2. Re:Soon AI Blockchain Clouds will rule the world. by fred911 · · Score: 2

      A trusted, decentralized, secure and liquid blockchain is something bankers (and the Fed) need to be scared of. I believe we now are seeing demonstrative examples of such systems. I also believe it's in the best interest of the banking community to either participate in, or assure these create huge losses for current participants, securing their job stability. The last thing bankers want to deal with is having to pony up (and not earn from) their float.

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    3. Re:Soon AI Blockchain Clouds will rule the world. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Interesting

      its not AI, its still good expert systems.

      No. This is completely wrong. "Expert systems" consist of structured and nested "if this do that" tables hand crafted by programmers querying human subject matter experts. Artificial neural networks can accept unstructured data, and find the patterns and correlations on their own. They are completely opposite approaches.

      The revolution in trading is happening because of ANNs, not "expert systems".

  4. But how many jobs will this AI create? by greenwow · · Score: 2

    I've been a customer of NCNB which later became Bank of America for over forty-five years, and they just keep creating policies that require more employees. For example, I used their bill pay to transfer money to another BoA account for over a decade but since then they've discontinued that I have to go to a branch and get a teller every month to pay my rent. Also, I used to transfer money to several friends that have BoA accounts, but they since discontinued that feature since they require a credit card to sign-up for "SafePass" and they canceled my credit card due to the fact I didn't use it enough. So now rather than just being able to transfer the money online, I have to go to one of their branches and deal with a bank teller. I really miss being able to use my iPhone to transfer money, for example, to pay back a friend when they pay for a meal with their credit card. BoA just keeps creating more work for their tellers.

    1. Re:But how many jobs will this AI create? by Kjella · · Score: 4, Informative

      So now rather than just being able to transfer the money online, I have to go to one of their branches and deal with a bank teller. I really miss being able to use my iPhone to transfer money, for example, to pay back a friend when they pay for a meal with their credit card. BoA just keeps creating more work for their tellers.

      And they let you do that without fees? That's how they killed real world banking here in Norway, if you want to pay a bill in cash expect to be charged >$10 in fees for each. About $8 if you've got an account. By mail $0.25. Online, nothing. So 91% of all age 16-79 pay their bills online. Another overview I found suggests 97% by volume. Bank offices are closing left and right or they're going "cashless" with ATMs/deposit/exchange machines and just financial advisers, the people don't touch the money. Traditional tellers are almost extinct here.

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    2. Re:But how many jobs will this AI create? by jopsen · · Score: 2

      America is so far behind it's hard to comprehend... I just recently moved back to Denmark from San Francisco, and trying to cash a check from my former landlord is basically impossible. I remember cashing a Canadian check 5-6 years ago, but today banks won't touch checks.

      In the US, however, most online bill-pay systems are just web frontends for sending a physical check by mail. I remember the teller explaining this to me, and laughed because I thought he was joking. It's a pretty stark difference, in Denmark physical letters is barely a thing (no private company or public entity sends me physical mail -- unless it's an extraordinary situation).

  5. Judgment by mentil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    we're good at judging people and detecting if someone is telling the truth.

    Hahaha, no. Experienced detectives trying to tell if someone is lying in response to a yes/no question, using their gut instincts, do no better than a coin flip. Also, remember this story posted just a few days ago: multiple forged signatures, and no investigation done before $Millions were already forked over to the scammers. Think about all the stories of scammers who use social engineering to convince corporate officers to wire them $Millions. OTOH, AI (ok, algorithms) has been used in automated fraud detection systems for decades.

    Besides, technology being ABLE to replace half of workers is very different from those workers actually being replaced. Many banks are led by conservatives, and won't rush out to replace half their workforce; they'll slooowwwwllllyyy roll it out in test markets for a decade first, maybe waiting for several competitors to announce plans to do so first. Remember how long it took to roll out EMV in the USA? We didn't even get 'chip & PIN', just 'chip & signature'... oh and they got rid of the signature requirement so it's just 'chip' now.

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  6. haha! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For someone who works in a LARGE bank. Let me just say this
    BWAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAHAHAHAHA.

    The one I work at is using software that EOL'd 5 years ago. This is a mainline program. They are just starting to replace it. There are thousands of programs like that. The supposition here is new unveted software is going to replace everyone. The banking industry lives and breaths microsoft excel. All of their internal software imitates that program in some way.

    HAHA my catcpa is tableau

  7. As did ATMs -- not! by davecb · · Score: 2

    The introduction of Automatic Teller Machines led to an increase in human tellers, as well as business.

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  8. Those same "conservatives" had no trouble by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    shifting nearly all tech work overseas in less than 10 years. I watched it happen overnight. I lived through it (and the constant layoffs). Banking executives are only "conservative" in the sense they don't like paying taxes. They're plenty progressive when it comes to saving money. Remember, we've structured their pay around stock price, and the best way to raise stock price is to have fewer employees. That's why everytime the economy tanks there's mass layoffs to bump the stock. This'll be the same thing, only this time the jobs aren't going overseas, they're just gone.

    We're about to head into another industrial revolution. The last few had decades of unemployment, wars and social strife before tech (and the New Deal) caught up and people were employed again. If you're going to do something to avert the next upheaval now's the time to start voting people into office that'll address the problem with something other than more "conservative" tax cuts for bank executives.

    Or don't. I'm getting up there in the years and won't make it past 55 with my health problems (and I'm a /.er posting on a Friday night, so you can bet I don't have kids). So what do I care?

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    1. Re:Those same "conservatives" had no trouble by mentil · · Score: 2

      Many of these conservative banks don't consider tech to be a core aspect of their business, any more than office supplies are. Thus it makes sense to outsource the tech stuff as much as possible. What banking is traditionally 'about' is relationships: talking to a client in a room, and selling them a financial service that will probably be eventually profitable for the bank. If there's an existing relationship it might be done over the phone, maybe with some paperwork faxed; but it's still pretty clear there's a person on the other end.

      Now, investment banking, especially the parts that deal with high-speed trading, are absolutely about tech. But traditionally (during Glass-Steagal) these two operations were separated.

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  9. Yeah... No... by oic0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I work in a credit union. 90% of our jobs are customer facing for people who want to talk with a human instead of using the website or an ATM. There is very little back office. You have loan underwriters, title clerk's, IT, mail, and accounting. All small departments. Big stuff are call centers, tellers, FSRs, etc...

  10. Re:But of course by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Academics don't seem to know much either. From TFS: "we're good at judging people and detecting if someone is telling the truth"

    Actually, this is something that humans are notoriously bad at. Deep neural networks already exceed human ability to recognize liars, by detecting microexpressions correlated with lying.