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NYT: Lynchings Around the World are Linked To Facebook Posts (bostonglobe.com)
An anonymous reader quotes the New York Times:
Riots and lynchings around the world have been linked to misinformation and hate speech on Facebook, which pushes whatever content keeps users on the site longest -- a potentially damaging practice in countries with weak institutions and histories of social instability. Time and again, communal hatreds overrun the newsfeed unchecked as local media are displaced by Facebook and governments find themselves with little leverage over the company. Some users, energized by hate speech and misinformation, plot real-world attacks.
A reconstruction of Sri Lanka's descent into violence, based on interviews with officials, victims and ordinary users caught up in online anger, found that Facebook's newsfeed played a central role in nearly every step from rumor to killing. Facebook officials, they say, ignored repeated warnings of the potential for violence, resisting pressure to hire moderators or establish emergency points of contact... Sri Lankans say they see little evidence of change. And in other countries, as Facebook expands, analysts and activists worry they, too, may see violence.
A Facebook spokeswoman countered that "we remove such content as soon as we're made aware of it," and said they're now trying to expand those teams and investing in "technology and local language expertise to help us swiftly remove hate content." But one anti-hate group told the Times that Facebook's reporting tools are too slow and ineffective.
"Though they and government officials had repeatedly asked Facebook to establish direct lines, the company had insisted this tool would be sufficient, they said. But nearly every report got the same response: the content did not violate Facebook's standards."
A reconstruction of Sri Lanka's descent into violence, based on interviews with officials, victims and ordinary users caught up in online anger, found that Facebook's newsfeed played a central role in nearly every step from rumor to killing. Facebook officials, they say, ignored repeated warnings of the potential for violence, resisting pressure to hire moderators or establish emergency points of contact... Sri Lankans say they see little evidence of change. And in other countries, as Facebook expands, analysts and activists worry they, too, may see violence.
A Facebook spokeswoman countered that "we remove such content as soon as we're made aware of it," and said they're now trying to expand those teams and investing in "technology and local language expertise to help us swiftly remove hate content." But one anti-hate group told the Times that Facebook's reporting tools are too slow and ineffective.
"Though they and government officials had repeatedly asked Facebook to establish direct lines, the company had insisted this tool would be sufficient, they said. But nearly every report got the same response: the content did not violate Facebook's standards."
Good for Facebook. Why doesn't Slashdot remove similar hate speech? Why do the editors allow the comments to be filled with anti-Semitic spam? It's truly embarrassing that Facebook, with orders of magnitude more posts, can police hate speech, but Slashdot refuses to do so. Perhaps it's time to let Slashdot's advertisers know about all the hate speech appearing with their ads. Slashdot's management should be ashamed of all the hate speech that they allow and seem to condone by not deleting it. And make no mistake, Slashdot occasionally deletes posts, yet there's so much hate speech. Truly embarrassing for Slashdot...
I mean, six months ago there weren't these constant drumbeats of anti-facebook stories. Now they're everywhere. Is this tied to the idea that Zuckerberg wants to run for President? The well is being poisoned so he won't pose a threat? After all, he's an outsider with no political experience. Trump was a total outsider, Sanders was a Democrat outsider, and look at all the dirty tricks that were played against them. Personally, I think insiders are the problem as they run our system for the benefit of themselves, not us. Plus, it would be very interesting to have Zuckerberg as America's first Jewish president.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Why does spam like the parent not get deleted? I wonder what Slashdot's advertisers would think if they saw all the hate speech appearing with their ads.
Remember when we all thought that the internet was the great democratizer bringing free speech to the world and was going to rout out corruption whenever it lid?
And then you go to this nazi party, and it's a bunch of fatty mixed race nerds that will shit their pants and run when they see a Jew, afraid he will shoot terrible mind control waves or something.
He's a troll. He's to be ignored.
You're a fascist. You're to be fought.
Islamic nations overwhelmingly more likely to carry out lynchings: "you can't blame that on Islam, most Muslims are peaceful!"
A handful of Facebook posts are linked to some lynchings: "uhrmaghurd, Facebook is teh worst, someone needs to do something!"
When do we get to the "most Facebook users are peaceful" excuse?
In Internet, governments can trace dissenting posts back to users.
In Internet, governments can spread propaganda more effectively.
In Internet, government surveillance has become rampant.
I love how that's as far as you go back, and don't bother to question why a Buddhist monk - a Buddhist! - would go so far as to call for violence. Just came out of nowhere, right?
As a backgrounder, the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army staged a series of concerted attacks on the Burmese army. Unwilling to tolerate another Moslem jihad, the Rohinyas have been expelled to Bangla, where live some of those funding and leading ARSA. Saudi Arabia is too far away to dump them.
The number of corpses hasn't been that overwhelming. The Karens, Kachins, and Shans have been similarly suppressed by the ethnic Burmans occasionally. I realize that being dead is overwhelming to the person departing this Vale of Tears. I also realize that jihad has a habit of sprouting where local Moslem majorities (or near so) coexist next to non-Moslems. We can probably take the Philippines as a case study. You can also chart the decline of the Christian population in Paleostine, and then ask the Yazdis and the Zoroastrians of Iraq for details.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Where are my mod points when I need them! Muslims going jihad, and when they fail and get driven back, they go booohoooo...
"It all started when they hit back"..
The common theme with almost all hostility in this world is islam. I could only wish that Western governments responded to islamic expansion the way the Burmese have.
To Terminate, or not to Terminate, that's the question - SCSIROB
So stand up for your principles, and sign in. Don't post anonymous.
Oh, and if the owners of Slashdot want to know who you are, they'll ask Facebook
To Terminate, or not to Terminate, that's the question - SCSIROB
In Sri Lanka there were anti-muslim riots. Why? The mainstream media can't suppress the truth about muslims anymore and when people see how they reaally act they sometimes become so angry riots arise. Good, that should happen in the west too. It's about time we fought back against the muslim threat and the Soros agenda of killing all cultures with more muslim immigrants.
I guess FB annoyed the wrong person - now, there are daily attacks on FB when for years they've been using the same dubious 'business' practices without issue.
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Yes ! If we allow freedom of speech the people will all lynch each other! Therefore we have another wonderful reason to stifle free speech. It is rather like the gun controversy. Obviously if we allow people access to guns some people with shoot each other. And yes, when we allow razor blades some women kill themselves in the bath tub by cutting their wrists. Thus the nanny state is our new imperative. Obviously for every freedom there is some really negative result that attaches. Surely we must erase freedom completely.
World War I - Germany engages in a multi-front war against British Empire, France, Russian Empire (pre-USSR), and USA. Predicatbly, they lose. Rather than accepting the fact that Germany lost because they were outnumbered, Hitlere convinced Germans that they were "stabbed in the back by the Jews", when victory was within reach. The repercussions of that delusion were ugly.
Election USA 2016 - Democrats put up unpopular candidate, who won primaries only because of an initial surge of support from "super-delgates" that gave her momentum going into the primaries. She's married to a former president who pushed through NAFTA (Bush negotiated it, but couldn't push it through), and was fully supporting TPP, until Sanders and Trump came out against it. She was the one who called blacks "super predators", stood up in a coal-mining state and said that she was going to shut down more coal mines, never bothered to show up and campaign in some of her crucial "Blue Wall States", illegally ran a private email server, deleted several thousand emails with "bit-bleach" when subpeona'd, lied about "coming under fire" at Benghazi, etc, etc, etc. Rather than admitting that they shot themselves in the foot by running the most awful candidate they could, the only one who could conceivably lose to Donald Trump... they claim that they were "stabbed in the back by Facebook".
What will the ugly repercussions of this delusion be?
I'm not repeating myself
I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user
On the internet you can't necessarily counter something on the same page either. Countering on some other facebook feed is no different from countering on some other web page. NYT stood by applauding when Facebook&Co caused violence en masse during the Arab spring ... that shit is why I loathe liberals more than any other political group, their opinions go this way or that with emotion and peer pressure. No consistency or recognition of hypocrisy,
I disagree with libertarians, anarchists, communists ... but at least they have some consistency in their thinking. Liberals are just an insane bunch of fuckers.
Only banning illegal speech when reported is a perfectly reasonable stand to take by social media companies, let the chips fall where they may. Demanding they start censoring based purely on your emotions when the outcome is stupid non-productive violence either way is insane.
He probably will label me an alt-righter and be done with it.
Or worse, call his fatty, white as fuck nerds that shit their pants and run when they see anything that look like an "agent of the patriarchy", afraid he will shoot terrible straightening control waves or something.
I've never met a person who is genuinely guided by his religious or philosophical principles. The main function of those things is to give you rationalizations for the things you do. The more convinced that someone is that he's a good whatever he calls himself, the more self-deluded he is.
The idea of Muslims who are robotically diabolical or Christians that are robotically saintly is ludicrous. It's like thinking being a Selena Gomez fan makes you profoundly different from an Ariana Grande fan.
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Facebook is the new "the devil made me do it" excuse for bad behavior.
Facebook, as much as I despise them, does not cause this. The people that do these things are broken and do not qualify as modern human beings, Facebook is just a communications channel here. These people would lynch others even with no electronic communications at all, as they are basically glorified cavemen.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
Muslims and until hezbollah and Hamas are banned from twitter stop posting these bullshit stories about muslims being attacked. https://twitter.com/thepartyof... https://twitter.com/HamasInfoE...
Did someone hurt your widdle feelings? Or were you dropped on your head as a child? If not you should get checked out for a brain tumor.
Paranoid fuckwit.
Donald Trump, on a crusade to make Nixon look respectable
It's business is based on creating an environment creates and empowers divisiveness. Of course, things can be done, but every solution would reduce profits so each true solution is effectively impossible.
I hear that some lynchings are linked to phone calls and snail-mail too. Ban those systems!
It's not a ridiculous assertion. The building blocks for carbon-based life are just much, much more common than those for life based on "exotic" chemistries, because they are more likely to be generated in fusion reaction in stars laptop tamiri
- a Buddhist! -
I see. So when someone calls for violence for what they see as the invasion of their home and the dilution of their culture, we should weep that they have been driven to such an extreme when they are members of a largely peaceful religion?
But only for approved religions?
I thought the main argument against Islam was that it gave rise to a minority of extremists who called for violent opposition to their enemies. How is this different?
Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army staged a series of concerted attacks on the Burmese army
Which they claim was in self defence. And so it goes.
Unwilling to tolerate another Moslem jihad
Which was the jihad they tolerated that this would be 'another'? ARSA are pretty fluent in English and are quick to claim responsibility for some attacks - like the co-ordinated attacks on police forces a few years ago. The government has accused ARSA of other crimes, but ARSA denies them. Did some people claiming to be ARSA commit them? Is ARSA playing sill-buggers with infromation? Is the government. Frankly, I don't know and I doubt you're any better informed. But I'd hardly call what is going on a 'jihad' unless you're incapable of skepticism and keen on a specific narrative.
I also realize that jihad has a habit of sprouting where local Moslem majorities (or near so) coexist next to non-Moslems
It's a good thing that the local Moslem community is less than 4% of the population, then, isn't it?
Ma Ba Tha are nationalist and seem motivated by a concern over loss of social identity. Calling for the death of others is abhorrent, regardless of whether you're a Moslem extremist declaring jihad, a Buddhist monk whipping up a lynch mob on Facebook, or a Slashdot poster delivering his benediction on one and dismissing the other.
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If I understand you correctly;
The mainstream media show only positive aspects of immigration, but you're privy to special, secret knowledge that really they are disease ridden sexual predators who aren't even from the country they claim.
Hmm. Are you familiar with the concept of confirmation bias?
Are you aware that places like Facebook are designed, specifically, to show you things you are likely to 'like'? That support your existing world views? That act as a kind of force magnifier for things like confirmation bias? That it's an echo chamber by design?
You are demonstrating, wonderfully, the problem with Facebook becoming such a significant deliverer of what most people think is 'news'.
What the....? Did APK just go full nazi or did some nazi go full APK?
Christians, among other people, although in this country when they want to commit suicide they're more apt to use guns and the police as their instruments. I suspect that's because guns are easy to get here. If you have to build your own instrument of mass murder, improvised explosives are the way to go.
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