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Senate Confirms Trump's Pick for NSA, Cyber Command (politico.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The Senate Tuesday quietly confirmed President Donald Trump's nominee to lead the National Security Agency and U.S. Cyber Command. U.S. Army Cyber Command chief Lt. Gen. Paul Nakasone was unanimously confirmed by voice vote to serve as the "dual-hat" leader of both organizations. The two have shared a leader since the Pentagon established Cyber Command in 2009. He will replace retiring Navy Adm. Mike Rogers after a nearly four-year term. The Senate Intelligence and Armed Services committees both previously approved Nakasone's nomination by voice vote.

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  1. Quietly? by superdave80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Senate Tuesday quietly confirmed President Donald Trump's nominee...

    What do you mean 'quietly'? Are you implying that they were trying to hide it? I hate how news organizations have started using this phrase haphazardly to try to make it seem like something nefarious is going on...

    1. Re:Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Boring position, boring nominee, boring committee hearings, boring vote. Of course it was quiet.

    2. Re:Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus, the senate does nothing quietly. Blowhards need to blow. This just wasn't of sufficient interest to generate headlines.

    3. Re:Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do things like this to maintain an image of opposition against Trump in Congress. It's pure drama for sure, but it helps control the narrative and keeps people focused on distractions. November's elections will be a sad testimony to the effectiveness of this type of propaganda. Republicans and democrats will continue to dominate with over 98% of the vote. Sad!

    4. Re:Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The news organizations, both small and large, have thrown aside their objectivity and their bias's when writing and publishing their stories. The actual contents of the story never support the headlines. And the biggest ongoing stories today rely almost exclusively on using anonymous and "those not authorized to comment" sources. Using confidential or anonymous sources also protects the publishers from lible charges an lawsuits. Then there are the people who read the libelous content to slander any one associated with the published story. The minute a newspaper, TV show, website, or any other news distribution channels declare an "editorial line" then everything they release is suspect.

    5. Re:Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Quietly" here means "without objection". It would do you wonders to brush up on your language comprehension skills.

    6. Re: Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Presumably it's overshadowed by a lot of other news. Trump has other nominees that are resulting in controversy such as his picks for Secretary of State and Veterans Affairs Secretary. There's also significant coverage of Emmanuel Macron's visit to Washington and the preparations for the possible June meeting between Trump and Kim Jong-Un. Nothing is being covered up, but it's not something that's generating headlines.

      As an aside, I'm getting tired of the political discussion on Slashdot. It just doesn't generate good discussion or moderation. When the topic is more about technology, the discussions are less polarized and the moderation tends to reflect the quality of the comments. Political topics result in polarized discussions and the moderation tends to serve as an agree/disagree comments. I'll often see two or three posts in a single thread that are all right-leaning or left-leaning get moderated up or down at once. When I see a couple right-leaning posts get moderated up or down, and the left-leaning posts moderated in the opposite direction, it's obvious that the moderation is being used to reflect agreement and disagreement instead of quality. It's unfortunate that so many people, even the nerds on this site, seem unable to look past their political views and appreciate ideas they disagree with. It's not a problem so far in this article, but I've seen it in a lot of other political discussions. I'd like to see less politics and more technology on Slashdot.

    7. Re:Quietly? by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Perhaps by "quietly" they meant that there wasn't a huge fight over it, massive amounts of shit spouting on Twitter, or the usual circus act that goes along with most of American politics in this day and age.

      There could well be something nefarious about this as when both the Democrats and Republics agree on something (see the Patriot Act for example), it usually does a really good job of completely fucking over the electorate.

    8. Re:Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nefarious? More than Trump, his sons and lawyers and campaign staff going to Leavenworth prison for high crimes?

    9. Re:Quietly? by greenwow · · Score: 1

      Like with FOSTA that was co-sponsored by 27 Democratic and Republican senators, but more Republicans voted against it than we did. It killed personals and craigslist and is continuing to harm many other web sites.

    10. Re:Quietly? by greenwow · · Score: 1

      Found the article I remembered from January that first mentioned him as a possible replacement:

      https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/05/nsa-mike-rogers-to-retire-267634

      Sounds like Trump didn't give them enough time to fully research this guy before forcing the vote.

    11. Re:Quietly? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Like with FOSTA that was co-sponsored by 27 Democratic and Republican senators, but more Republicans voted against it than we did.

      The final vote on FOSTA was 97-2, and the two votes against it were Wyden (D-OR) and Paul (R-KY), so how does that work out to "more Republicans voted against it than we did"?

      However, you could say that there were more Republicans than Democrats voting FOR the bill, and you'd actually be correct.

      https://www.senate.gov/legisla...

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    12. Re:Quietly? by Memnos · · Score: 1

      Oh and don't forget its other "unintended consequence". It puts prostitutes at risk. You can call the Other, but I've known some and they're actual people. Every "save the children", "keep us from sin, Oh Lord" law we make causes indiscriminate harm, irrevocably restricts freedom, and achieves nothing in its purported goals.

      Or maybe that's intended.

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    13. Re:Quietly? by greenwow · · Score: 1

      Why would not count all of the people that voted on the bill instead of just in the Senate? According to:

      https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/27/17057754/sesta-fosta-passes-congress-cda-230-house-of-representatives

      "The measure passed on a 388-25 vote, with 14 Republicans and 11 Democrats voting in opposition."

    14. Re: Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would not count all of the people that voted on the bill instead of just in the Senate?

      Because you specifically mentioned Senators, not Representatives or even legislators.

      Really your own fault.

    15. Re:Quietly? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Why would not count all of the people that voted on the bill instead of just in the Senate?

      As my friend says, you specifically mentioned senators.

      But even if we take the House of Representatives into account, there were 3 more Republicans than Democrats voting against the bill, but many more than 3 more Republicans voting FOR the bill. So if you take both houses of Congress into account, there are still way more Republicans than Democrats SUPPORTING the FOSTA bill.

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    16. Re:Quietly? by LordKronos · · Score: 1

      The news organizations, both small and large, have thrown aside their objectivity and their bias's when writing and publishing their stories.

      They've done what? Objective literally means without bias. So the news organizations have thrown aside both their bias and their lack of bias? How exactly does that work? Their stories are neither fact nor opinion, so what exactly are they?

    17. Re: Quietly? by reanjr · · Score: 1

      In this context, I believe "quietly" means: "we're just hearing about this because our news organization is too focused on sensational headlines to follow what actually goes on in the world."

    18. Re:Quietly? by superdave80 · · Score: 1

      Then use the phrase "without objection"? It would do wonders for journalists to write more clearly, because quietly can mean a lot of things.

  2. NSA and Cyber command are the same by shuz · · Score: 1

    USA Cyber command, which was started in 2009, is really just an arm of the NSA. It makes perfect sense from a political view point for the lead of the NSA to also oversee the Cyber command. One counter argument to this might be that Cyber command is/was intended to be defensive focused while the NSA is focused on all communication intelligence both offensive and defensive. At some level there is likely to be some management structure that is only Cyber Command focused. This story is likely a non-event.

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    1. Re:NSA and Cyber command are the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USA Cyber command, which was started in 2009, is really just an arm of the NSA. It makes perfect sense from a political view point for the lead of the NSA to also oversee the Cyber command. One counter argument to this might be that Cyber command is/was intended to be defensive focused while the NSA is focused on all communication intelligence both offensive and defensive. At some level there is likely to be some management structure that is only Cyber Command focused. This story is likely a non-event.

      It is likely a non event, but I'm not so sure it should be. I want a serious effort to mitigate foreign espionage attempts to influence voters and even possible hacks of election roles and related systems.

      I suspect it couldn't hurt to make sure we have one person for each position with both qualified...

      Might even need a specific division within cyber command setup to stop foreign influence operations, including all the traceability to know that the work they are doing is of the good.

      Why can't we have someone of the moral caliber of Russel Honare (sp?) or similar combined with the best minds to really face this problem? I'm not sure the guy ultimately in charge needs to be an expert, but he needs to be willing to learn enough to understand the experts on his staff and the pros and cons of the decisions they have on the table. The main thing he or she needs is the skills to work the system to get it done.

  3. Voice vote? by H3lldr0p · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So that just means we don't get to know who voted for this guy, or even if there were enough votes for him to carry.

    When you thought things were getting bad with this admin, their legislative buddies pull another stinker on us. If they had the votes and were confident in the nominee a voice vote wouldn't be necessary. If this guy really was that good, being on record for him wouldn't be an albatross around anyone's neck. But here we are.

    1. Re:Voice vote? by breech1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      So that just means we don't get to know who voted for this guy, or even if there were enough votes for him to carry.

      No, it means the guy was confirmed overwhelmingly (the article states it was unanimous). Congress will do voice votes when there's no serious opposition to the matter at hand. If a Senator didn't like him, that Senator could have raised an objection and forced a on-the-record vote. That didn't happen, so you can assume that everyone present in Senate was fine with him.

    2. Re:Voice vote? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > you can assume that everyone present in Senate was fine with him.

      Wrong. Trump always hires the worst people, so it would be very unusual to the point of unbelievability that this person is competent. The Republicans shoved this clown down our throats. This guy was a staff officer for Keith B. Alexander that lied about the Utah datacenter under orders from Obama. He told the press "we don't hold data on U.S. citizens" while knowing that they did. Nakasone said nothing about the truth on that.

    3. Re: Voice vote? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it comes to Intel, lying has not been an issue for the last 10 years.

    4. Re:Voice vote? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      That's not the real question to me. To me the real question is "Is he an expert in the field?". This time nobody seems to be saying either yes or no.

      FWIW, I think picking the head of a government department by a popularity contest is mindbogglingly stupid, but I can't really think of a better way. The guy needs political support to do his job, but he also needs to understand the job, and the jobs are all different, so a standardized test would be worthless.

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  4. Re:Quietly? - YES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See, normal cable news pundit prime time dipshits would say, "SENATE CONFIRMS TRUMP"S PICK FOR NSA!."

    "Up next, 3 poeple in boxes YELLING on the screen argue how this is VERY bad and why we should care!!!"

    Or in the case of Sean Hannitty and the rest of Fox News: "Clinton's email a new perspective and how it links to the Stormy Daniels fraud. Right after these real estate get rich quick scam advertisments that I have nothing to do with."

    Then an ad for catheters and urine bags run before the TACTICAL flashlights advertised by some guy with muscles who claims he served in some branch in the military and never saw combat in his life.

  5. Pro flat earther senate by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    confirmed1

    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to run NASA, but really?

    Couldn't they find ANYONE else to run it?

    1. Re:Pro flat earther senate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NSA, dumbass. The NASA incompetence is in a different story. Jesus. This is an example of why your country voted in its current leader.

    2. Re:Pro flat earther senate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NSA, dumbass. The NASA incompetence is in a different story. Jesus. This is an example of why your country voted in its current leader.

      Dimwitted Euro-trash. Or Russian troll maybe? Obviously not smart enough to be a bot.

    3. Re:Pro flat earther senate by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Russian troll. They keep trying to confuse people into thinking the NSA and NASA are the same thing. I'm not sure why, but it's not the first time I've seen this one.

    4. Re:Pro flat earther senate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's an example of why this country damn near elected Hillary.

    5. Re:Pro flat earther senate by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      NASA convinces US politicians to gather new data on stars by looking up.
      NSA convinces US politicians to gather new data on stars by looking around.

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    6. Re:Pro flat earther senate by bobstreo · · Score: 1

      No, it's an example of why this country damn near elected Hillary.

      "Nearly?" You know the choice of "Tiny Hands" vs "Humma Hummer" is particularly close to many ?

      I can't even how much imagine late night television monologs would wander///

  6. But do they know what he's supposed to do? by Kenja · · Score: 1

    Based on the Facebook stuff, they seem to not understand how the tubes work...

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  7. I am dissapointed that it is not its own service by Hasaf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As it stands, only about a quarter of the age eligible population is able to join the armed forces. If Cyber Command had become its own service then they could have opened recruiting to anyone who was willing to do the work, study hard, and become a member. As it stands, the ranks will be closed to those who are not a member of the physical elite.

    Not only dies this close the door to service by those who are not in near perfect physical condition; but it also limits the pool of potential candidates based on a factor that has nothing to do with their acumen at cyber-security.

  8. I don't think it was haphazard by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    this is a pretty important appointment. Someone who has oversight over a lot of questionable practices. You'd expect a little more talk on both sides. If he's just a great candidate Trump should be tooting his horn (after all, most Trump appointees have been questionable at best and horrifyingly bad at worst). If not, this is just another example of how both sides are really only in the tank for the mega corps.

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    1. Re:I don't think it was haphazard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump crippled the government intentionally for Republican crony support, there's really no comparing recent Dem appointments to this shit-show charade of treason.

  9. How 'bout Leo Laporte? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keeping to his "TV experts" appointments, why not Leo Laporte? LOL..

  10. Quick question. by jwhyche · · Score: 3

    Are we for or against this nomination, or do we not care?

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    1. Re:Quick question. by Ogive17 · · Score: 2, Funny

      On one hand the vote was unanimous which makes me think, without research, the guy might do a good job.

      On the other hand, any time Congress agrees on something without any contention makes me feel, as a citizen, that I'm about to get bent over and rammed hard from behind.

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    2. Re:Quick question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read at +2. If your post doesn't reach that level I will not see or respond to it.

      and still no one cares if you can't or don't. your loss. you aren't missed.

    3. Re:Quick question. by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      That is a graphic but very accurate way of putting. I will admit I know nothing about this appointment or that it was even pending today.

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    4. Re:Quick question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think for yourself FFS. THINK.

    5. Re:Quick question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We are against the existence of the position, and therefore any candidate that would accept it.

    6. Re:Quick question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you are against the position of Director of the National Security Agency.
      I guess I can infer from this that you oppose the existence of the NSA.
      So do you believe SIGINT should be done by a different agency (CIA, maybe?) or not at all?

    7. Re:Quick question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the entire US government is illegitimate and has been for nearly a century as that's at least how long it has massively violated the limits on it's powers, and needs to be replaced through a Convention of States as outlined in the US Constitution.

    8. Re:Quick question. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Collect it all domestically goes on.

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    9. Re:Quick question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody cares because everybody is in a state of cognitive dissonance, in an alternative reality where the NSA does not exist.

      Therefor we do not know what you are even talking about?

    10. Re:Quick question. by pots · · Score: 1

      Probably don't care, unless you work for the NSA or Cyber Command. This was an uncontroversial nomination.

  11. fabulous! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am American and many people are saying this is naother example of the huge successfully management of USA departments under amazing president trump that didn't exist with idiot Obama.

    1. Re:fabulous! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure you are, uh huh. We've totally bought into that. Hot dogs, apple pie, and baseball, right? You can't even put together a sentence in English. You're just trying to sow more discord in the US by posing as an Obama hating right winger.
      You've probably also already posted as Trump hating left winger, just minutes ago.
      Go have another swig of Vodka, loser. It's all you have in life.

    2. Re:fabulous! by FFOMelchior · · Score: 1

      I am American and many people are saying this is naother example of the huge successfully management of USA departments under amazing president trump that didn't exist with idiot Obama.

      Found President Trump's secret /. account.

  12. and humans of the world need to unite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and humans of the world need to unite, to thwart the rogue regime called the USA and ts spyng peeping tom ways at kids and adults

  13. Re:I am dissapointed that it is not its own servic by geekmux · · Score: 1

    As it stands, only about a quarter of the age eligible population is able to join the armed forces. If Cyber Command had become its own service then they could have opened recruiting to anyone who was willing to do the work, study hard, and become a member. As it stands, the ranks will be closed to those who are not a member of the physical elite.

    As it stands today, the United States Military could not function without the generous assistance of a few hundred thousand contractors supporting it. And a lot of those contractors were former military members who simply grew well beyond their former physical limitations.

    Not only dies this close the door to service by those who are not in near perfect physical condition; but it also limits the pool of potential candidates based on a factor that has nothing to do with their acumen at cyber-security.

    Couldn't agree with you more here, but let's be honest for a minute. How many potential candidates within the "uber-hacker" ranks would pass a background investigation for a security clearance, as well as a drug test? Physical conditioning is likely the least qualifying concern.

  14. Re:I am dissapointed that it is not its own servic by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    A new service takes money away from the CIA and NSA computer funding.
    Every new mission completed wold take prestige away from existing agencies.
    Best to keep it within the existing command structure and allow all winning to be the result of existing "cyber" teams.

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