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Senate Confirms Trump's Pick for NSA, Cyber Command (politico.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The Senate Tuesday quietly confirmed President Donald Trump's nominee to lead the National Security Agency and U.S. Cyber Command. U.S. Army Cyber Command chief Lt. Gen. Paul Nakasone was unanimously confirmed by voice vote to serve as the "dual-hat" leader of both organizations. The two have shared a leader since the Pentagon established Cyber Command in 2009. He will replace retiring Navy Adm. Mike Rogers after a nearly four-year term. The Senate Intelligence and Armed Services committees both previously approved Nakasone's nomination by voice vote.

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  1. Quietly? by superdave80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Senate Tuesday quietly confirmed President Donald Trump's nominee...

    What do you mean 'quietly'? Are you implying that they were trying to hide it? I hate how news organizations have started using this phrase haphazardly to try to make it seem like something nefarious is going on...

    1. Re:Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Boring position, boring nominee, boring committee hearings, boring vote. Of course it was quiet.

    2. Re:Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Quietly" here means "without objection". It would do you wonders to brush up on your language comprehension skills.

    3. Re:Quietly? by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Perhaps by "quietly" they meant that there wasn't a huge fight over it, massive amounts of shit spouting on Twitter, or the usual circus act that goes along with most of American politics in this day and age.

      There could well be something nefarious about this as when both the Democrats and Republics agree on something (see the Patriot Act for example), it usually does a really good job of completely fucking over the electorate.

    4. Re:Quietly? by greenwow · · Score: 1

      Like with FOSTA that was co-sponsored by 27 Democratic and Republican senators, but more Republicans voted against it than we did. It killed personals and craigslist and is continuing to harm many other web sites.

    5. Re:Quietly? by greenwow · · Score: 1

      Found the article I remembered from January that first mentioned him as a possible replacement:

      https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/05/nsa-mike-rogers-to-retire-267634

      Sounds like Trump didn't give them enough time to fully research this guy before forcing the vote.

    6. Re:Quietly? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Like with FOSTA that was co-sponsored by 27 Democratic and Republican senators, but more Republicans voted against it than we did.

      The final vote on FOSTA was 97-2, and the two votes against it were Wyden (D-OR) and Paul (R-KY), so how does that work out to "more Republicans voted against it than we did"?

      However, you could say that there were more Republicans than Democrats voting FOR the bill, and you'd actually be correct.

      https://www.senate.gov/legisla...

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    7. Re:Quietly? by Memnos · · Score: 1

      Oh and don't forget its other "unintended consequence". It puts prostitutes at risk. You can call the Other, but I've known some and they're actual people. Every "save the children", "keep us from sin, Oh Lord" law we make causes indiscriminate harm, irrevocably restricts freedom, and achieves nothing in its purported goals.

      Or maybe that's intended.

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    8. Re:Quietly? by greenwow · · Score: 1

      Why would not count all of the people that voted on the bill instead of just in the Senate? According to:

      https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/27/17057754/sesta-fosta-passes-congress-cda-230-house-of-representatives

      "The measure passed on a 388-25 vote, with 14 Republicans and 11 Democrats voting in opposition."

    9. Re:Quietly? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Why would not count all of the people that voted on the bill instead of just in the Senate?

      As my friend says, you specifically mentioned senators.

      But even if we take the House of Representatives into account, there were 3 more Republicans than Democrats voting against the bill, but many more than 3 more Republicans voting FOR the bill. So if you take both houses of Congress into account, there are still way more Republicans than Democrats SUPPORTING the FOSTA bill.

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    10. Re:Quietly? by LordKronos · · Score: 1

      The news organizations, both small and large, have thrown aside their objectivity and their bias's when writing and publishing their stories.

      They've done what? Objective literally means without bias. So the news organizations have thrown aside both their bias and their lack of bias? How exactly does that work? Their stories are neither fact nor opinion, so what exactly are they?

    11. Re: Quietly? by reanjr · · Score: 1

      In this context, I believe "quietly" means: "we're just hearing about this because our news organization is too focused on sensational headlines to follow what actually goes on in the world."

    12. Re:Quietly? by superdave80 · · Score: 1

      Then use the phrase "without objection"? It would do wonders for journalists to write more clearly, because quietly can mean a lot of things.

  2. NSA and Cyber command are the same by shuz · · Score: 1

    USA Cyber command, which was started in 2009, is really just an arm of the NSA. It makes perfect sense from a political view point for the lead of the NSA to also oversee the Cyber command. One counter argument to this might be that Cyber command is/was intended to be defensive focused while the NSA is focused on all communication intelligence both offensive and defensive. At some level there is likely to be some management structure that is only Cyber Command focused. This story is likely a non-event.

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  3. Pro flat earther senate by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    confirmed1

    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to run NASA, but really?

    Couldn't they find ANYONE else to run it?

    1. Re:Pro flat earther senate by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Russian troll. They keep trying to confuse people into thinking the NSA and NASA are the same thing. I'm not sure why, but it's not the first time I've seen this one.

    2. Re:Pro flat earther senate by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      NASA convinces US politicians to gather new data on stars by looking up.
      NSA convinces US politicians to gather new data on stars by looking around.

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    3. Re:Pro flat earther senate by bobstreo · · Score: 1

      No, it's an example of why this country damn near elected Hillary.

      "Nearly?" You know the choice of "Tiny Hands" vs "Humma Hummer" is particularly close to many ?

      I can't even how much imagine late night television monologs would wander///

  4. But do they know what he's supposed to do? by Kenja · · Score: 1

    Based on the Facebook stuff, they seem to not understand how the tubes work...

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  5. I am dissapointed that it is not its own service by Hasaf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As it stands, only about a quarter of the age eligible population is able to join the armed forces. If Cyber Command had become its own service then they could have opened recruiting to anyone who was willing to do the work, study hard, and become a member. As it stands, the ranks will be closed to those who are not a member of the physical elite.

    Not only dies this close the door to service by those who are not in near perfect physical condition; but it also limits the pool of potential candidates based on a factor that has nothing to do with their acumen at cyber-security.

  6. I don't think it was haphazard by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    this is a pretty important appointment. Someone who has oversight over a lot of questionable practices. You'd expect a little more talk on both sides. If he's just a great candidate Trump should be tooting his horn (after all, most Trump appointees have been questionable at best and horrifyingly bad at worst). If not, this is just another example of how both sides are really only in the tank for the mega corps.

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  7. Re:Voice vote? by breech1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    So that just means we don't get to know who voted for this guy, or even if there were enough votes for him to carry.

    No, it means the guy was confirmed overwhelmingly (the article states it was unanimous). Congress will do voice votes when there's no serious opposition to the matter at hand. If a Senator didn't like him, that Senator could have raised an objection and forced a on-the-record vote. That didn't happen, so you can assume that everyone present in Senate was fine with him.

  8. Quick question. by jwhyche · · Score: 3

    Are we for or against this nomination, or do we not care?

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    1. Re:Quick question. by Ogive17 · · Score: 2, Funny

      On one hand the vote was unanimous which makes me think, without research, the guy might do a good job.

      On the other hand, any time Congress agrees on something without any contention makes me feel, as a citizen, that I'm about to get bent over and rammed hard from behind.

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    2. Re:Quick question. by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      That is a graphic but very accurate way of putting. I will admit I know nothing about this appointment or that it was even pending today.

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    3. Re:Quick question. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Collect it all domestically goes on.

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    4. Re:Quick question. by pots · · Score: 1

      Probably don't care, unless you work for the NSA or Cyber Command. This was an uncontroversial nomination.

  9. Re:I am dissapointed that it is not its own servic by geekmux · · Score: 1

    As it stands, only about a quarter of the age eligible population is able to join the armed forces. If Cyber Command had become its own service then they could have opened recruiting to anyone who was willing to do the work, study hard, and become a member. As it stands, the ranks will be closed to those who are not a member of the physical elite.

    As it stands today, the United States Military could not function without the generous assistance of a few hundred thousand contractors supporting it. And a lot of those contractors were former military members who simply grew well beyond their former physical limitations.

    Not only dies this close the door to service by those who are not in near perfect physical condition; but it also limits the pool of potential candidates based on a factor that has nothing to do with their acumen at cyber-security.

    Couldn't agree with you more here, but let's be honest for a minute. How many potential candidates within the "uber-hacker" ranks would pass a background investigation for a security clearance, as well as a drug test? Physical conditioning is likely the least qualifying concern.

  10. Re:I am dissapointed that it is not its own servic by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    A new service takes money away from the CIA and NSA computer funding.
    Every new mission completed wold take prestige away from existing agencies.
    Best to keep it within the existing command structure and allow all winning to be the result of existing "cyber" teams.

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  11. Re:Voice vote? by HiThere · · Score: 1

    That's not the real question to me. To me the real question is "Is he an expert in the field?". This time nobody seems to be saying either yes or no.

    FWIW, I think picking the head of a government department by a popularity contest is mindbogglingly stupid, but I can't really think of a better way. The guy needs political support to do his job, but he also needs to understand the job, and the jobs are all different, so a standardized test would be worthless.

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  12. Re:fabulous! by FFOMelchior · · Score: 1

    I am American and many people are saying this is naother example of the huge successfully management of USA departments under amazing president trump that didn't exist with idiot Obama.

    Found President Trump's secret /. account.