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UK Officials Will Summon Mark Zuckerberg To Testify if He Won't Do So Voluntarily (cnbc.com)

UK officials said Tuesday they will summon Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg to testify before Parliament the next time he's in British territory if he does not volunteer to do so. From a report: It would be the first governmental summons for Zuckerberg in the fallout of the Cambridge Analytica data leak and widespread concerns around user privacy. "It's worth noting that, while Mr. Zuckerberg does not normally come under the jurisdiction of the UK Parliament, he will do so the next time he enters the country," Damian Collins, a member of the UK Parliament, wrote in a letter published Tuesday. "There are over 40 million Facebook users in the UK and they deserve to hear accurate answers from the company he created and whether it is able to keep their users' data safe," Collins wrote.

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  1. Summon? by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny

    So... like they draw a pentagram, hold hands and say his name three times while looking in the mirror? Does that work?

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    1. Re:Summon? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's true that he can easily evade this if he wants to, although it is kinda embarrassing to be effectively barred from visiting a country because you don't want to answer questions about the scandals you presided over.

      Considering how well he came off from the US hearings I think he might come. Our MPs are pretty tame really.

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    2. Re:Summon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Our MPs are pretty tame really.

      I can just imagine his team briefing him.

      If one human shouts 'here here', ingest 1.1 ounces of liquid from provided receptacle.
      If the entire room starts to 'harrumph', ingest 3.6 ounces of liquid from provided receptacle.

    3. Re:Summon? by Muros · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought they just wave their wand and say "Accio Zuckerberg"

    4. Re:Summon? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Funny

      So... like they draw a pentagram, hold hands and say his name three times while looking in the mirror? Does that work?

      Don't be ridiculous! You draw a magic circle (using salt) around your smartphone then poke Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook three times while chanting, "Friend me, Zuck." ;)

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    5. Re:Summon? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Considering how well he came off from the US hearings I think he might come. Our MPs are pretty tame really.

      On the other hand, he hasn't already donated to the majority of them so they might be somewhat less tame.

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    6. Re:Summon? by jenningsthecat · · Score: 2

      It's true that he can easily evade this if he wants to, although it is kinda embarrassing to be effectively barred from visiting a country because you don't want to answer questions about the scandals you presided over.

      I think it's a little more than just embarrassing. The optics of him NOT going are pretty dismal - especially given Facebook's implicit reliance on the 'if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear' meme. If he has nothing to hide, why shouldn't he just go and face the British parliament?

      Besides, if things start to get rough, he can always call out the British government on its own extensive surveillance network and its own privacy-busting legislation.

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  2. When does it end? by OrangeTide · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does Australia, Canada, New Zealand, France, Germany, The Netherlands, and Sweden each get a turn summoning a CEO for questions?

    It's a big unrealistic to expect someone to visit every country in a timely manner. If they wish to speak with company representatives available in their respective region that's certainly reasonable and I'm sure can be arranged promptly.

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    1. Re:When does it end? by Tailhook · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's a big [sic] unrealistic

      Zuckerberg et al. don't hesitate to play tax games among all these foreign countries. Zuckerberg et al. demand a borderless world from which to cherry pick employees. Zuckerberg et al. don't hesitate to cash the checks they earn from the UK and elsewhere. Zuckerberg et al. are unfailingly disappointed whenever the US fails to conform to the demands of international authorities (climate agreements, immigration policy, gun laws, etc.)

      Yet let any of these countries demand Zuckerberg appear before investigators and all the sudden everything is "unrealistic" or "unreasonable."

      You know what? Fuck Zuckerberg. He can spend the next tens years schlepping from one 18 star hotel to the next all over Europe and Asia dealing with these investigations as far as I'm concerned. If Zuckerberg doesn't like it he can stop accepting revenue from ad views outside the US or whatever he has to do to eliminate his obligations in foreign countries. If that means the Facebook business model isn't feasible then so be it; nothing of value will have been lost.

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    2. Re:When does it end? by SeaFox · · Score: 2

      Does Australia, Canada, New Zealand, France, Germany, The Netherlands, and Sweden each get a turn summoning a CEO for questions?

      It's a big unrealistic to expect someone to visit every country in a timely manner.

      He could have arranged a question-and-answer session before an international representative group and done this all at once -- it's not like it's been a secret UK legislators have wanted to talk to him. He just chose to play the classic "I'm going to ignore you unless I'm legally obligated to because you can arrest me" card.

      Who'd have though being a major figure in an global business would require lots of meetings with people you don't really want to talk to? :rolleyes:

    3. Re:When does it end? by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

      What's that? They haven't?

      Perhaps the commonwealth countries know how to queue.

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  3. Scene: Ecuadorian embassy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    *knock on the door*
    *Assange opens it*
    Assange: Mark?
    Zuckerberg: Hey man, slumber party?

  4. The writing on the wall by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can see how this will play out.

    The big players (Google, Facebook, Twitter, et al.) should not determine what's acceptable speech, or attempt to enforce it.

    That's the job of the government, there's lots of existing precedent to rely on, and there are clear avenues of appeal and change.

    So here's what will happen: things will get really bad for awhile, then something will happen that breaks the dam. There will be a flood of calls to break up Google (in particular), and twitter and facebook and all the others.

    Facebook's problem wasn't that they gave information to an outside party, it's that the party was associated with Trump that got them in trouble. Largely the same thing happened with Obama, and Facebook didn't care.

    Recently published research shows that google manipulated search results to make Clinton seem more favorable to Trump. The research uses comparisons of search keys between Google, Bing, and Yahoo to make it's point, and is based on results published in PNAS. An excerpt:

    overall, manipulating search suggestions can shift a 50/50 split among people who are undecided on an issue to a 90/10 split without people’s awareness and without leaving a paper trail for authorities to follow.

    Google engages in unfair media manipulation at its worst, they are literally trying to sway the results of an election to a candidate they prefer. Facebook and Twitter are doing the same. Facebook does the same thing indirectly, by selling personal information to companies who themselves do the manipulation.

    It was thought to be "the smart move" when the Obama campaign did it, and at the time no one realized that the same effect could be turned the other way.

    The big players are right now laying the grounds for the upcoming election by eliminating certain opinions. Gun proponents explaining how to clean and care for their guns get their accounts locked, videos get demonetized, commentary gets shadow-banned... despite claims of "it was a mistake" and "it's our AI", the results have been largely one-sided.

    I don't expect Facebook to be smart enough to notice what's happening (or Google or Twitter), so the most likely outcome is that this will come to a head with enormous public outcry over something in the future (possibly the upcoming US midterm elections), and the companies will be forceably broken down into smaller pieces or made to submit to regulation.

    A pity, really. Facebook could probably get a lot of consumer good will by being the champions of human rights.

    Instead, they seem hell-bent on forcing governments to step in with regulation.

    1. Re:The writing on the wall by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      There will be a flood of calls to break up Google

      There have been for the past decade. The reality is it won't happen.

      Google engages in unfair media manipulation at its worst, they are literally trying to sway the results of an election to a candidate they prefer.

      So they are a news company then? I'm not sure anymore if you're just stating the obvious, manufacturing outrage, or actually clueless as to how the media represents elections in general.

      Gun proponents explaining how to clean and care for their guns get their accounts locked, videos get demonetized, commentary gets shadow-banned... despite claims of "it was a mistake"

      Fake news. Google has never said it was a mistake.

      the companies will be forceably broken down into smaller pieces

      If you think this is likely you really haven't been paying attention to the past 30 years.

  5. Re:Why Zuckerberg? by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What exactly do you think the local operation does? Maintain a parallel Facebook with its own independent privacy policies and implementation of those policies?

    All of the questions MPs want answered pertain to decisions being made by Zuckerberg and his US-based subordinates. They don't give a fuck how much advertising "Facebook UK" was able to sell.

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  6. Demon lord, not so simple. by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2

    Zuckerberg is a demon lord, so nothing that simple will work.

    It has to be a full summoning circle, with protection circles for the summoner, acolyte minor, and familiar.

    The full incant goes something like:

    Here have I scribed the true URLs of power,
    Forward and backward anagrammatized,
    The abbreviated names of holy CEOs,
    Figures of every adjunct to the internet,
    And characters of signs and evening stars,
    By which the spirits are enforced to rise.
    And do the utmost magic can perform.

    You also need something to appease Zuckerberg once he gets there. The life of a small child, or the promise of toothless regulation, or something similar.

  7. Extradition FTW! by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think they should get with the State Department and get him extradited like any other criminal.

  8. Re:They saw the US do it, so they have to do it to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is the parliamentary equivalent of "We've tried being polite and you refused, so we're not asking anymore".

    If someone asks you to attend something, and you decline, and they immediately make some vague threat, then they were never really asking in the first place. This is just them dropping the pretense that it was ever voluntary.

  9. Re:They saw the US do it, so they have to do it to by Space+cowboy · · Score: 2

    Yes.

    It seems to me that US people (I only say the US because that's where I live, I don't know if it's as common elsewhere) seem to think Brits are nice people, and you can get away with shit around them. Brits are *not* especially nice. Brits are *polite*, there is a huge difference. The velvet glove conceals an iron fist, and it's generally easier to be polite back than to piss them off overmuch.

    I imagine his questioning will be somewhat more ... in depth ... than it would have been previously. There is no time limit on select-committee investigations, like in the US congressional hearings. If it takes several hours, then it takes several hours...

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  10. Easy... by ytene · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just point out that the UK's Customs and Revenues Service will be taking a very detailed look at Facebook's tax returns, with a view to implementing necessary corrections in legislation that will prevent Zuck from off-shoring his profits to some tax haven.

    Nothing will get a mega-corp CEO in the room like a threat to their profits.