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Growing Petition Requests Apple Recall MacBook Pro With 'Defective Keyboard' (fortune.com)
Apple might have some explaining to do if a recent petition against its MacBook Pro continues to gain steam. From a report: A petition surfaced this week on Change.org that calls on Apple to recall MacBook Pro units released since late 2016 over what the petition author Matthew Taylor calls a "defective keyboard." The petition seeks 7,500 signatures and as of this writing, it's closing in on 6,200. Judging by the sheer number of signatures coming in each minute, it shouldn't take long for it to hit the goal.
"Apple, it's time: recall every MacBook Pro released since late 2016, and replace the keyboards on all of them with new, redesigned keyboards that just work," the petition reads. It goes on to say that "every one of Apple's current-gen MacBook Pro models, 13-inch and 15-inch, is sold with a keyboard that can become defective at any moment due to a design failure."
"Apple, it's time: recall every MacBook Pro released since late 2016, and replace the keyboards on all of them with new, redesigned keyboards that just work," the petition reads. It goes on to say that "every one of Apple's current-gen MacBook Pro models, 13-inch and 15-inch, is sold with a keyboard that can become defective at any moment due to a design failure."
"Defacative Keyboard" and it seems to mean the same thing.
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it's closing in on 6,000. Judging by the sheer number of signatures coming in each minute, it shouldn't take long for it to hit the 5,000-signature milestone.
WTF, people, are the signatures going in reverse?
Stolen that Keyboard Design from Xerox as well :-D
If there's nearly 6,000 signatures I would guess there are already at least 5,000 signatures on the petition.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
" it's closing in on 6,000. Judging by the sheer number of signatures coming in each minute, it shouldn't take long for it to hit the 5,000-signature milestone. "
Someone doesn't understand how maths works...
I mean, Apple has always been about making what the users want, even when the users don't know what they want.... so users must want keyboards that collapse at the smallest spec of dust.... right?
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MyKeyboardIsFailingAndMySpacebarWontWorkAnymore.ThanksApple!
how maths works
But do they understand how Englishes work?
USB-C ports coming next.
the next step is eliminating the keyboard altogether. Courageous.
Lol, got that one from the other slashdot story...
We all know it's coming. Tim cook is going to come out on stage and tell everyone "You're holding it wrong!"
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
When comparing Apple to PC/Microsoft/Windows, and comparing Apple to Google/Android, Apple has always been seen as the higher "quality" product for one very important reason: Apple makes everything and only has higher-end products. In the PC/Android world, there are high-end devices, mid-tier, low-end, extreme-budget devices. Regardless of the outstanding quality of top-tier PC/Android devices out there, their ecosystems as a whole contain the stigma created from their bottom-tier devices. This is why Apple has always seem as "superior" in the multiemedia creation department, despite PCs having absolutely amazing high quality top-tier hardware. I still remember the first time I repaired a Mac computer as a kid, and shocked to see that it used SCSI HDDs instead of IDE. Contrast this to the Microsoft world where the absolute top reason a Windows box will crash will either be faulty hardware or faulty drivers from the hardware manufacturer (both out of MS control, but only reflects upon them and not the hardware vendors)
Since the passing of Steve Jobs, this push to be the best of the best in the hardware world has absolutely faltered. They don't give two fucks about quality anymore, and slowly but surely this is becoming more and more evident every single day. The higher price for assured reliability when purchasing Apple products is no longer there, sadly.
They will just laugh and tell you to buy the "new new" macbook "pro" at the next WWDC with still no 32GB RAM. This post typed on a 32GB RAM Windows 10 laptop with USB-A ports, ethernet port and fixable keyboard.
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Voter fraud!!!!
Interestingly, none of our users have complained about the keyboards on their new Macs. They complain vociferously about other things, to be sure, but this isn't one of them. For such a supposedly widespread problem, they've been remarkably silent.
Background: I've supported the Macs and PCs at my workplace for over 10 years. I prefer the older chiclet design, but mostly because that's what I'm used to.
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Want them to change to make better products?
Don't buy their products.
Every review I read when they were released spoke of how poorly the keyboards were.
People have a choice believe it or not.
There are plenty of other options out there.
90% of people just browse and click and type a few words.
For the people that really need to type all the time get a top of the line chromebook or a top of the line lenovo or hp.
The lines are blurred now with basically everything being a web app and accessible via the internet.
No longer are the applications for the majority, platform dependant.
Apple hasn't put out quality consumer friendly laptops or desktops for a few generations now.
In all seriousness, I've been buying their laptops for over a decade, and I have to tell you that they are now, suddenly, crap. If you've never tried typing on a new Macbook Pro keyboard (the ones in question) I encourage to try one out at an Apple store. It is *literally* like typing on a package of chicklets. They do this big sell job on you about how revolutionary the keys are now, but they don't move at all (well, not much anyway). If you think that the feeling of touch typing on your smartphone's screen is revolutionary, then you'll probably love them. If you still prefer buckling springs on your desktop keyboard then this is about as far away as you could possibly get from that.
I just had a go on a new Thinkpad and Lenovo seems to be going in the other direction - trying to get more travel in their keys. I don't know what Apple is smoking but they're about to throw away a very nice business. It used to be that the best Windows laptop you could buy was an Apple, now there is no way that would be true.
I am not interested in articles about life extension advancements.
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Don't ask me, I even failed civics. Both of them!
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
If there's nearly 6,000 signatures I would guess there are already at least 5,000 signatures on the petition.
How many are from actual owners? Then what percentage of total owners is it?
Oh a tiny insignificant fraction. Then Apple should rightfully ignore this.
At least it's not Windows, Linux, or Android. I'll take a few hardware defects over using those crappy operating systems.
Well, Apple DOES make quality products, but this keyboard is not one of them.
It just works. It just works. It just works. Believe me yet?
Better than Americans...
You dandy yanky-doodles might want to get out of your bubble occasionally.
'maths' is correct in various Englishes other than en_US.
I stopped few years back with Mac's. Completely unworthy of their price tag anymore. Apple's obsession with profit margins and thin and tidy port skimpy "pro" notebooks just left me wondering who buys this crap anymore?
Why does that matter?
Maybe the rest of us are avoiding buying it until this gets fixed.
Maybe we're avoiding Apple completely until they stop having such convenient flaws.
Apple consumers are some of the biggest suckers out there. They'll literally buy *anything* with an Apple logo on it. Apple consumers will remain Apple consumers for the foreseeable future, no matter the quality of their products and services. If anything, they should double the price of these machines.
I don't respond to AC's.
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I've wondered since the touch-bar was introduced - could it be that Apple has been gathering key-usage statistics to drive their keyboard technology and quality? How could you come to the conclusion that you should get rid of the F keys and escape key? You wouldn't just go around and ask people. You'd actually gather statistics, identify 'useless' parts of the keyboard and deprioritize them.
Given that 98% (My guess) of interactions with Apple products happen through touch screens at this point so the keyboard designers are probably being told to cut costs since the majority of users don't care about keyboards. Sad day. You used to be able trust that the Macbook Pro would 'just work' making it an unequaled product.
Maybe we're avoiding Apple completely until they stop having such convenient flaws.
Then you don’t get to demand recalls you fucking retard.
But this affects some people I know.
I should stand up for them.
Pretty sure it's "Englishi"
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Exactly. Tech hating apple morons will end up throwing this defective turd away and then run back and my the next defective turd apple shits out.
They deserve every dirty trick apple pulls on them.
You should go put a fucking bullet in your head.
Stop eating food infront of your glorious MacBook Pro !
The known problems are the keyboards and video artifacts problem. A co-worker got a new 13 inch 2017 MBP and it had video artifacts within a few months. He brought it to the Apple Store and they fixed it for him. I have a 2014 15 MBP (personal) and a Corporate 2015 13 MBP. They both work great. The keyboards work and they just plain work overall. But I wouldn't touch the 2016 and 2017 stuff and Apple must know this. I use my MBP at a desk the vast majority of the time and have it hooked up to KVMM. The keyboards are mechanical, and very clicky and noisy, just the way I like them. Lots of key travel too. Apple should make models with more keyboard travel and sell them as gaming models.
If only apple cult members had a mind of their own.
Blah blah blah, Yes we all know the world runs on apple software; everything else is junk. apples software is just as bad as its hardware.