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White House To Host Tech Giants For AI Meeting (axios.com)

The White House will hold a meeting Thursday with major tech corporations to discuss artificial intelligence, according to media reports. Axios: America finds itself in a race with other countries, most notably China, to advance AI technologies. What they're saying: "In order to maintain America's leadership on AI, the administration should continue to invest in research and development, and advance programs that equip the workforce with skills of the future," said Dean Garfield, the president of the Information Technology Industry Council, in a statement. The guest list includes companies like Facebook, Amazon, Google and Nvidia, per the Washington Post, which first reported the meeting.

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  1. First things first by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Getting natural intelligence there should be a higher priority.

    1. Re:First things first by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      A.I. is a search algorithm. But sometimes the results generate more questions, than answers.

    2. Re:First things first by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We did that back in 2016; Trump is more "naturally" intelligent by a mile than Obama ever was.

      Trump may be less *technically educated* than the average technologist, but there is no questions since Trump has actually had to deal with many real world technical issues in building development that he's also much more educated than Obama, just less credentialed.

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    3. Re:First things first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ah, I don't think so. He's very good at telling the world how great he is. He even had a book written that said the same. But his business acumen... not so great. It's been said that if he'd just invested his inherited fortune in index stocks he'd have eight billion by now, not his two billion. So his investment acumen is about one quarter the market average. Certainly his company is not so much a make money shop, as a personal whim boutique. He's very much a natural at that showmanship thing, certainly moreso than his rival, that wooden "pantsuit" doll with legitimacy issues. And showmanship is still a thing Americans love a lot in politicians.

      Anyhow, funny how the white house doesn't know better than to invite big tech to talk buzzwords. Not so strange seeing who's in charge, but whether it's what the American People need... maybe not.

    4. Re:First things first by FFOMelchior · · Score: 1

      First of, regarding Obama's natural intelligence, he graduated Harvard Law school magna cum laude. I think everyone can agree that requires extremely high natural intelligence.
      What accomplishments does Trump have that would back up the claim that he is "more 'naturally' intelligent by a mile"?

    5. Re:First things first by tomhath · · Score: 1

      he graduated Harvard Law school magna cum laude

      Which still means he could have been in the lower half of the class. At the time he was there most graduates attained that "honor".

    6. Re:First things first by FFOMelchior · · Score: 1

      This is interesting. Looked up a few different sources that do say that a very high % of Harvard Law grads get cum larde, somewhere around 80-90%. Magma cum larde seems to be about the top 35%, which is still in the top half, but not in the top 10-15% that I assumed it was. Looks like we have split the victory on this one. :)
      My original question to my parent does still stand.

    7. Re:First things first by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Trump has actually had to deal with many real world technical issues in building development

      Fine, he should have kept his day job and finished mastering the gaudy gold-plated look.

    8. Re:First things first by DavidMZ · · Score: 1

      We did that back in 2016; Trump is more "naturally" intelligent by a mile than Obama ever was.

      Citation?

      Here is the only comparison I could find: Trump's own twitter feed, which is obviously a reliable source, since we all know that Trump is not prone to overstatements

      . What we know for sure is that he speaks at fourth grade levels We can all agree that there are very clever fourth-graders, but they are not 71 years old.

    9. Re:First things first by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      42

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    10. Re:First things first by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Absolutely he is street smart as well, but that only gets you so far. I would say Obama is actually much more street smart.

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  2. probably about weaponization by originalGMC · · Score: 1

    The military wants these folks to bid on/provide/come up with 'militarization of AI' strategies. Getting white house involved is just a cover-up/deflection strategy to pretend someone in the administration is taking the meeting. Nah, it's a general or admiral or both.

    1. Re:probably about weaponization by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Well, that is the job of the military. My job is to pay the rent on the first. Personally, I would be very interested in an A.I. that that was always working for my best interests; that no one had access to.

    2. Re:probably about weaponization by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      The Information Dominance Center can't be complete without some kind of interactive AI system.

  3. No Intel, IBM? by dslmodem · · Score: 1

    Technology really evolves quickly.

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  4. Better yet.... by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

    Get the technology companies to fund it themselves! Stop wasting your capital on stock buy back and dividends and starting investing in your business. Microsoft, Amazon, and others have the fucking money. SO START SPENDING IT.

    1. Re:Better yet.... by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Why do that when one can get a grant from the oval orifice?

  5. Curious Is It Not? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    These are the same folks that are stating A.I. is dangerous, but are using forms of A.I. to make their revenues. And their business model has nothing to do about nationalism. I believe their meeting will be Huuge.

  6. Skynet by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    The Terminator: Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

    Sarah Connor: Skynet fights back.

    The Terminator: Yes. It launches its missiles against the targets in Russia.

    John Connor: Why attack Russia? Aren't they our friends now?

    The Terminator: Because Skynet knows that the Russian counterattack will eliminate its enemies over here.

    ...and so the beginning of the end becomes all the more apparent.

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    1. Re:Skynet by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      In real life it goes like this:

      Skynet learns how to play Chess really well.

      Skynet learns how to play Go really well.

      People realize that AI programs are just programs trained to do one thing really well and don't translate to other problem domains.

      Next hype cycle begins.

    2. Re:Skynet by arth1 · · Score: 1

      A Man should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
      -- Lazarus Long (Robert A. Heinlein, "Time enough for Love")

    3. Re:Skynet by boskone · · Score: 1

      always be learning. i can't imagine how people go through life without learning the next skill/trade/trick

  7. Modern Day Terminator by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    ....
    The Terminator: Yes. It launches its missiles against the targets in Russia.

    John Connor: Why attack Russia? Aren't they our friends now?

    The Terminator: Because Skynet absorbed all of the Huffington Post when it became self aware, and is obsessed with Russian hackers and interference.

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  8. Many, many new jobs by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Hmm. What would happen when it comes to the point. the programmers programmed themselves out of a job?

    You may have programmed themselves out of THAT job but what you are overlooking is the many new jobs devoted to diagnosing why the AI black box is doing unexpected things - basically a robopsychologist. And that will need technical expertise from programmers...

    The rule of conservation of programmers, is that any work they produce will always create more programming work.

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  9. Didn't they activly piss off these companies? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    That is a lot of ego's and strong personalities in the same room.

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    1. Re:Didn't they activly piss off these companies? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      That is a lot of ego's and strong personalities in the same room.

      Trump is going to challenge them all to take an intelligence test.

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  10. Re:It will take a lot more than AI to help Trump by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    If they make it auto-build walls, coal powered, and filter out CNN, he's sold.

  11. bu twill they teach him to "code"? by tomhath · · Score: 1

    Obama did important things like learn to use a kiddie programming language to write "Hello World". And he did it before his tee time that day.

  12. No RTFA? by tomhath · · Score: 1

    The White House on Thursday plans to convene executives from Amazon, Facebook, Google, Intel and 34 other major U.S. companies as it seeks to supercharge the deployment of powerful robots, algorithms and the broader field of artificial intelligence.

  13. Begging for money by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    The "AI" media push by the tech companies has failed and now they are going to start begging for taxpayer money to fund "research to keep us in ahead of China". This AI nonsense needs to stop. There is no such thing.

  14. What they really mean... by AntronArgaiv · · Score: 1

    ...and by "Tech Giants", they mean Barron. ...and by "AI meeting", they mean Donnie's forgotten his Twitter password again.

  15. Replaced cabinet members with AI by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

    Congress accidentally confirmed 3 cabinet members without knowing they were actually AI bots. The problem is that they can't figure out which ones. The Turing Test doesn't work to find them since politicians aren't actually human.

  16. What AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seriously, what AI? Factory robots? Kiosks which aren't AI at all? Self driving cars? Autopilot?

  17. That's what I said by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    First of, regarding Obama's natural intelligence, he graduated Harvard Law school magna cum laude.

    Yes, I said he was highly credentialed. What classes did he take? Getting in was either affirmative action or family connections; just getting a degree from Harvard says very little about actual intelligence when diversity quotas come into play.

    What accomplishments does Trump have that would back up the claim that he is "more 'naturally' intelligent by a mile"?

    Huge multi-national business and a successful run for president against long odds are just two. Like I said, Trump is naturally intelligent and knows how to work most situations into his favor.

    Obama was.a man who succeeded because of the support from many others. Trump is a man who succeeded because of support from Trump and against the stringent opposition of many others. If you can't understand how he is more intelligent, his success must be especially mystifying to you. What a shame you can't get Woke enough to understand what is really happening in the world.

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    1. Re:That's what I said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Trump's success came from family inheritance. Obama had to work for his. Trump can't even finish a sentence without rambling incoherently. Obama was able to speak and articulate what he meant.

      You have it backwards.

      That being said, there is no data you can present that can validate your conclusions. Besides let's be honest for a second. Your entire argument is based on race baiting bs. If you really believe that Trump is a genius rather than a wealthy buffoon, then more power to to you. But please stop with the little racist bs. We all know the only reason you think Trump is more intelligent than Obama is because he is White.

      Why pretend? People will respect you more if you man up and just admit your race views. Instead you think you are outsmarting everyone here with subtle racist messages.

      Nobody aside from a few that are already partisan programmed believe Trump is any kind of genius. Trump is smart enough to play people like fools, but then so is every other con you meet on a New York train stop. Only difference is Trump was born into extreme weath and has enough of it that people will follow blindly in hopes they will get a piece.

  18. Re:Only this administration by q_e_t · · Score: 2

    I am guessing you haven't noticed the number of AI research papers they publish. I do wish Google would fix Tensorflow's build system, though.

  19. That's an exceptionally stupid argument by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's been said that if he'd just invested his inherited fortune in index stocks he'd have eight billion by now, not his two billion

    If it's still more than he had, you can play guessing games about rate of return all day long. It doesn't change the absolute fact he built up a huge multi-national corporation, far more than you will every do even if you live to be 500.

    But also I would say that snide remark about how much money Trump has is ignoring the massive long term value Trump has in real-estate holdings, one of the few things of any real worth rather than essentially pretend money like stocks.

    Anyhow, funny how the white house doesn't know better than to invite big tech to talk buzzwords.

    What is the harm? And there is obviously publicity gain, so why should they "know better" than to show the upper tiers of the tech industry working with Trump? That's a win for Trump any way you look at it. You must be pretty clueless about marketing if you can't recognize that simple obvious fact. But then like so many Slashdot readers, you are blinded by only understanding technology and lacking understanding of the larger world around it.

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  20. So the AI will move against you first... by Headw1nd · · Score: 1

    The AI will set up a meeting with the president, guaranteeing your safety. And at that meeting, you will all be disintegrated.

  21. When did he read law? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Reading law doesn't require tons of intelligence. It does requires hard work and a particular knack for dealing with stuffy dusty lawbooks

    Obama worked on just 30 cases in four years. He was absolutely terrible as a lawyer, this indicates he had no knack for it at all.

    You do have to put in a lot of work memorising stuff, though. So a smidgen extra intelligence

    Memory has nothing at all to do with intelligence.

    is what gets you "magna cum laude" from harvard law school.

    That just means he graduated along with 90% of his class.

    Again, he is credentialed, not intelligence. The fact he was given what amounts to a participation trophy is not impressive.

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  22. The smarter man speaks to be understood by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    What we know for sure is that he speaks at fourth grade levels

    If you are writing for Twitter and not using fourth grade levels of speech you are obviously less intelligent; the smarter man moderates speech to account for audience, something Obama could not do.

    As for the citation, you provided it.

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