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Kaspersky Lab Moving Core Infrastructure To Switzerland (securityweek.com)
wiredmikey writes: As part of its Global Transparency Initiative, Russia-based Kaspersky Lab today announced that it will adjust its infrastructure to move a number of "core processes" from Russia to Switzerland. The security firm has faced challenges after several governments have banned Kaspersky software over security concerns, despite no hard evidence that Kaspersky has ever colluded with the Russian government. As an extension to its transparency initiative, announced in October 2017, the firm is now going further by making plans for its processes and source code to be independently supervised by a qualified third-party. To this end, it is supporting the creation of a new, non-profit "Transparency Center" able to assume this responsibility not just for itself, but for other partners and members who wish to join. Noticeably, Kaspersky Lab does not link the move specifically to the effects of the U.S. ban, but sees wider issues of global trust emerging.
So, what you are saying is there is more evidence that Trump has colluded with the Russian government than there is evidence that Kapersky has colluded with the Russian government? What a world we live in!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
And burnnnn!!!
Kaspersky is being accused of aiding the Russian government in its espionage. Being that the company makes security software which by definition needs to be run these systems normally with elevated privileges.
Despite if the claims are true or not, people are not choosing Kaspersky software due to its connection with Russia, and the Russian government does have a trend of getting involved in its companies. Companies with sensitive information are not using the software.
Moving to Switzerland doesn't seem to really fix anything, because all it will take is a request for the CEO to send or "Backup" their data to a Russian Data center, or to an 3rd party data-center that Russia may have access too.
The only way I think they would be considered safe, is if they provide the source to all the countries they are trying to sell too, have them review it, and compile it with their own tools and redistribute it to its citizens. Any data collection would need to be done by 3rd party resellers who have no direct connection to the actual company.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Eugene Kaspersky still lives in Moscow and he's still an ex-KGB agent. These two facts alone make look Kaspersky highly untrustworthy considering that the Kremlin is waging e-war with the rest of the world.
And they are practically the Vatican City / Islamic State / Israel of the bankers and similar capitalist extremists.
(Apart from rural Switzerland being the most beautiful place on earth, and food consisting "mainly" of cheeese and chocolate. :)
Are they bullshitting me? If there is a place in the world shadier than Russia that is Switzerland, safe haven for drug lords, organized crime bosses, weapons trafficking, tax evading assholes, prostitution and gambling...good choice Kaspersky!
When will ISS Mission Support move to Switzerland too? That would include crew and resupply missions too.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
I have met and worked with a few Russians.
I have met and worked with a few politicians.
If push came to shove and I was in danger, the Russian folk I know would help take up arms, and the politicians would do what politicians do (nothing!).
For the record, I don't trust European or Asian or African or Middle Eastern or Martian politicians either.
So what does this have to do with Kaperksy? Kapersky's troubles are a side effect of a false political narrative targeted at painting the current POTUS as a traitor or worse, by the losing party, based on misinformation paid for and spread by the Democratic party and Hillary camp.
So Kapersky should sue the bones off of Hillary and the DNC, because their lies that have led to this mess for Kapersky have already been proven to be lies.
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I don't think it'll matter. Russia doesn't play nice when it comes to security and has a history of using overt violence to get what it wants out of people. You can't thumb your nose at Putin the way, say, Tim Cook did to the American FBI. If any of their staff or family of their staff are left in Russia I'd be nervous about using their product. That's just the reality of it.
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Among the folks who stash their illegally earned, stolen or just plain plundered cash in Swiss secret numbered accounts are:
Cocaine Cartel Barons, corrupt African government officials, the American mafia, crooks in the Vatican Bank, that Crown Prince of Nigeria who keeps sending me spam, the "Windows Support" guy who keeps calling me, wealthy American and German tax evaders . . . and Putin's oligarch mafia stooges.
So the place is transparent as Area 51.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Eugene is literally following the money...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Do you really believe that the current financial system is actual capitalism? The world hasn't had real capitalism for centuries; this is the most regulated economy in the history of the world.
When connected elites use the state to benefit their operation at the expense of everyone else, that is not free market capitalism. Capitalism entails a truly free market, where no company is artificially propped up by government.
Study up:
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So now it will say "we think this is malware but we don't want to cause any problems or use such offensive, inflammatory terms" and then the only button is "stay neutral."
While you would think Kapersky labs would have made a move away from Russia, even before the recent Russian intrigue, moving to Switzerland will not help much except for branding. The fact that Kapersky had numerous Russians employed to write code, means that if any of them were working (surreptitiously or outwardly)for the Russian Government, any code written by them is suspect.
If anybody knows about the IPSEC compromise in OpenBSD, they can understand. OpenBSD touted as one of the most secure unix operating system ever built, suffered a serious blow to its reputation about 7 years ago when it was found out that the "contractor" who wrote most of the IPSEC code, worked for the FBI and had an NDA from them that prohibited him from telling the OpenBSD group. it resulted the FBI implementing a number of backdoors and side channel key leaking mechanisms into the OCF, (OpenBSD Cryptographic framework) for the express purpose of monitoring the site to site VPN encryption system.
Needless to say, this was the FBI compromising a system **because** it was secure. In fact OpenBSD lost its DARPA funding becasue DARPA was notified of it, but could not tell OpenBSD the reason for it funding cut off.
the good part about this was that the IPSEC stack was rewritten and more code contributors were vetted a bit better.
Sometimes the worst enemies are not the one you prepare fo,r and there is a good chance that auditors found some backdoors in Kapersky's software and, like Open BSD, are not telling those about it except for a general warning.
Having a thinly veiled cover is just what Republicans need to make it easier to deny they got tricked into selling out not only their principles, but their country. Make Kaspersky Great Again!
Swiss cheese land, as the Swiss security is known as these days is so riddled with Russian and other communist agents that no one but the Pope (and I have to guess if even the Pope truely does) would have trust in them. Moving the 'assets' isn't the problem. It's the entire company and its raison d'etre. They are an arm of Russian spying and that won't change.
So it sounds like APK will finally have an account then.
The claim that Kaspersky never colluded with the Russian government to attack the West is FUCKING BULLSHIT. There is copious evidence that the fat Chekist motherfucker, Yevgeniy Kaspersky, works in cahoots with the FSB to hack Western intelligence agencies and steal our secrets.
Kaspersky has been caught RED HANDED attacking the West, and working directly for our mortal enemies in the Kremlin.
Eds, don't insult us by lying to us.
We keep seeing the good work:
Telling the world about and protecting computers from such efforts as:
Stuxnet, Flame, Duqu, Equation Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... , Android cyber-espionage used by 60 governments.
The problem with Switzerland is the Swiss military command structure and its closeness with the US mil.
At a staff level the US officer contact is as close to Switzerland as any military in a 5 eye nation.
The Swiss command level officers have enjoyed getting educated with the US mil for decades and will always support any US requests for help.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
If I had the choice between one or other spying on me, Id rather it be the russians. There isn't shit the russians can do to be so long as I never plan to step foot on their soil. US on the other hand....
If you're trying to protect yourself from industrial espionage, well then you probably want no one spying on you.