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The Toughest (And Weakest) Phones Currently On the Market (tomsguide.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the drop-test dept.

New submitter Daneel Olivaw R. shares a report from Tom's Guide: To measure each phone's toughness, [Tom's Guide] dropped it from both 4 and 6 feet onto wood and concrete. After each test, we recorded the damage to the phone. If a phone was rendered unusable -- the screen totally shattered, for instance -- then we stopped dropping it. [More details on the testing process can be found here.] Each drop was worth a maximum of 5 points; if a phone made it through all of the rounds unscathed, it would earn 35 points. The more severe the damage per drop was, the more points were deducted. If a phone was rendered unusable after a given drop, it would earn no points, and would not undergo any subsequent test. In total, there were seven tests. [...] If a phone died in the 6-foot edge drop, it was penalized an extra 10 percent. If it died in the 6-foot face drop, it was penalized 5 percent. And if it died when dropped into the toilet, it lost 2.5 percent. We then divided the total score by 3.5, to put it on a 10-point scale. Here are the scores of each device:

Motorola Moto Z2 Force - Toughness score: 8.5/10
LG X Venture - Toughness score: 6.6/10
Apple iPhone X - Toughness score: 6.2/10
LG V30 - Toughness score: 6/10
Samsung Galaxy S9 - Toughness score: 6/10
Motorola Moto G5 Plus - Toughness score: 5.1/10
Apple iPhone 8 - Toughness score: 4.9/10
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 - Toughness score: 4.3/10
OnePlus 5T - Toughness score: 4.3/10
Huawei Mate 10 Pro - Toughness score: 4.3/10
Google Pixel 2 XL - Toughness score: 4.3/10
iPhone SE - Toughness score: 3.9/10

112 comments

  1. iPhone X is a surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's still never leaving it's case.

    1. Re: iPhone X is a surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Please tell me you mean the glass case at the mall kiosk.

    2. Re:iPhone X is a surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The LGs aren't a surprise. Every LG phone I have ever had was made very well.

    3. Re: iPhone X is a surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What a bullshit RNG test this was. They should have performed the same tests on at least twenty of each model for the test to have any meaning.

    4. Re:iPhone X is a surprise by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      It isn't a surprise it is where I kinda expected it to be.
      Despite the Slashdot hate of all things Apple, and MacRumors undying love of Apple. Apple actually makes a decent competing product that deserves to be in the price range that it is in. However it isn't #1 in any particular measure but near the top in most measures. Normally if there is any few particular aspect that you want out of a phone, there are normally phones better then the iPhone. But as an overall phone Apple tends to keep up with the rest, and stays at the top of the pack.

      The iPhone SE at the bottom of the list, is Apples budget phone, which is modeled off the iPhone 4 Released almost 8 years ago. So I don't expect it to be having the latest glass technology, but the cheaper stuff they used 8 years ago.

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    5. Re:iPhone X is a surprise by tsa · · Score: 1

      Why? Just because the SE looks a bit like the 4 it doesn't have to be made of the same materials.

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    6. Re: iPhone X is a surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. And also randomised the drop angle and other factors to ascertain the probability that a given drop with unpredictable initial parameters will damage the phone.

    7. Re:iPhone X is a surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The SE is based off the iPhone 5.

    8. Re:iPhone X is a surprise by epine · · Score: 1

      Apple actually makes a decent competing product that deserves to be in the price range that it is in.

      With Apple, the price of the product includes both the phone and the restrictive walled garden.

      Whether the price is justified or not depends on your attitude toward walled gardens.

      Turns out, walled gardens are very popular among garden gnomes owned by Shire folk, but in truth, some of them have never wandered close enough to the garden boundaries to figure out there's a wall after all. That garden gnomes owned by Shire folk devour seed cakes almost as persistently as hummingbirds just might have something to do with their reduced, un-ranger range.

  2. That's why you get a metal case by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1

    Like this for example. There are others with a 17mm mount over the camera so you can screw on lenses like this.

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    1. Re:That's why you get a metal case by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Metal? Wouldn't it be better to have a rubber or elastic polymer case that can absorb shocks rather than just transmit them?

    2. Re:That's why you get a metal case by davecb · · Score: 2

      No, actually. You want a case that doesn't let the phone distort, which breaks stuff. Mere deceleration isn't all that evil for phones (unlike human heads (;-))

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    3. Re:That's why you get a metal case by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1

      The one I got has a silicone rubber inner lining. I was too lazy before to find the specific case... This is the one I got.

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    4. Re:That's why you get a metal case by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see tests with various cases and bumpers. Very few people use their phones without some kind of case.

      Similarly, screens should be tested with protectors applied.

      Kind of benchmarks vs. real world performance.

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    5. Re:That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      screens don't react well to that sudden deceleration, while the rest of the phone may be better in a metal case the screen is better off in a silicon or elastic type case that reduce that impact shock that can shatter glass.

    6. Re:That's why you get a metal case by burtosis · · Score: 2

      You want distance to slow down. Accelerating over a large distance and suddenly stopping is how hammers break stuff. Say you drop 6 feet and stop over the 0.01" your cellphone corner dents inward - the kinetic energy gained through acceleration is the same as deceleration so in a napkin calculation the g forces are simply the ratio of distances, in this case 7,200g which makes your phone screen shatter and plastically deforms the metal case. Give that an elastic component and you could add 3/16" to reduce this to a manageable 384g. Adding a rigid metal case helps with bending, not with impact unless it has an elastic component, though mostly just with phones that have a plastic internal frame.

    7. Re:That's why you get a metal case by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 2

      "Accelerating over a large distance and suddenly stopping is how hammers break stuff."

      Actually, it's just a practical way to exert a lot of force. A hydraulic press exerting the same force that builds up over weeks will break stuff just the same. The suddenly stopping has nothing to do with it. A common misconception. Neither does accelerating over a large distance. How would the material know what the hammer was doing before? Or whether it was accelerating or just moving by a constant velocity?

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    8. Re:That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd take glass filled polymer over metal any day of the week.

    9. Re:That's why you get a metal case by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      I agree with both. I got a case both elastic on the edges yet with a stiff back. I'd say it weighs a goodly percent of the iphone8s, but it handles the butt: I sit on it all the time, with no concern. I considered getting just an edge bumper, but I knew that, for one reason or another, I'd end up sticking it in my back pocket, forget about it, then sit on it and shatter it.

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    10. Re: That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      People who sit on their phones are just idiots.

    11. Re:That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but rubber/silicone cases will save the fuck out of my precious wood floors.

    12. Re:That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would like to know what a "toughness" of 1 means... personally my guess is that if I LOOK at a phone with toughness 1 from across a room, then it breaks...
      we have a race to make the most fragile phone model ever

    13. Re:That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention a metal case would probably wreak havoc on the phone when placed on a charge pad.

    14. Re:That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know which phone would be rated a 1 in toughness, but I'm guessing 10 is reserved for the old Nokia 3310.

    15. Re:That's why you get a metal case by war4peace · · Score: 1

      "Accelerating over a large distance and suddenly stopping is how hammers break stuff."

      Actually, it's just a practical way to exert a lot of force. A hydraulic press exerting the same force that builds up over weeks will break stuff just the same. The suddenly stopping has nothing to do with it. A common misconception.

      Only if you completely ignore inertia and material elasticity.

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    16. Re: That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So customers desire extra-thin phones - and then bolt on a thick case in it. Makes one go 'huh'.

    17. Re:That's why you get a metal case by infolation · · Score: 1

      A few years ago I accidently dropped a Nokia 100 burner phone 5 floors down a fire escape onto a concrete basement floor (approx 15 meters). Apart from a broken latch on the plastic back (fixed with gaffa tape), the phone was in perfect condition and continued to work for years afterwards.

    18. Re:That's why you get a metal case by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1

      Like I said, a common misconception.

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    19. Re:That's why you get a metal case by war4peace · · Score: 1

      *facepalm*

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    20. Re:That's why you get a metal case by sjames · · Score: 1

      I don't understand why I would want to pay more for a phone to get one that's super thin, then spend more still to get a metal box to put it in rather than buying a more rugged phone in the first place.

      Oddly, rugged phones tend to be cheaper with an otherwise comparable feature set.

    21. Re: That's why you get a metal case by tsa · · Score: 1

      All people are idiots, wether they sit on their phones or not.

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    22. Re: That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facepalm yourself. His point is sound.

    23. Re:That's why you get a metal case by dargaud · · Score: 1

      Metal ? Like a faraday cage around your phone ? And then you get 90% signal attenuation and 10 times faster battery drain.... Awesome idea. Wasn't that the problem of the iPhone 2 or 3 that had a metal case and you had to hold just right to maybe have a slight chance of getting a signal with ?

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    24. Re:That's why you get a metal case by burtosis · · Score: 1

      "Accelerating over a large distance and suddenly stopping is how hammers break stuff."

      Actually, it's just a practical way to exert a lot of force. A hydraulic press exerting the same force that builds up over weeks will break stuff just the same. The suddenly stopping has nothing to do with it. A common misconception. Neither does accelerating over a large distance. How would the material know what the hammer was doing before? Or whether it was accelerating or just moving by a constant velocity?

      Like I said, it's balancing kinetic energy through energy conservation. At the end of acceleration your kenetic energy is 1/2 x mass x velocity^2 and this is the same as the force x distance. When you stop the kenetic energy is zero again. This is also force x distance. So force1 x distance1 = force2 x distance2 so therefore force1/force2= distance2/distance1. Stop suddenly and you need to apply a great force, slowly and the force is less. To smash something with a hammer you need a hard surface, or one that won't move much when hit, otherwise the hammer won't generate a high force due to conservation of kinetic energy. Given constant forces of acceleration and deceleration then it resolves to the ratio of distances involved as I've shown with elementary school math. Energy balance is a simple way to do the math and keep track of the variables. This is high school physics 101. You are mostly correct in that the strain rate is fairly independent of the force needed to break most things so it dosent matter if it's a hydraulic press or hammer the resultant force that is needed to break something is the same. Plastics do creep and there are materials that behave analogous to the non-newtonian behavior of ooblek (corn starch and water) where the strain rate is important. I did my masters thesis in mechanical engineering on impact orientation invariant design, but I'm trying to keep it simple here.

    25. Re:That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Years ago I went camping at a beach and found someone's Nokia 3310 washed ashore. It had been in the ocean and was still waterlogged, so I set it out in the sun to let it dry. I was able to turn it on and contact someone from the contacts who knew the owner and they came by and picked it up.

      Those old Nokia phones really were as close to indestructible as a phone can be.

    26. Re: That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're the worst.

    27. Re: That's why you get a metal case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also most rugged phones have a bigger battery.

    28. Re:That's why you get a metal case by samwichse · · Score: 1

      How has no one said the word "impulse" in this conversation yet?

  3. Fuck this summary/ad by HornWumpus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The ten toughest non-ruggedized phones.

    You'd think that would have made the summary.

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    1. Re: Fuck this summary/ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've whipped my Galaxy S7 across the room at least 5 or 6 times. I did have to spend 4.50$ to replace the back camera glass... But that's it.

      Surprisingly durable.. not a Nokia brick phone, but impressive.

    2. Re:Fuck this summary/ad by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      The top two are semi-ruggedized. The first one has a shatterproof screen, the second has metal brackets. It makes the iPhone X the winner of the non-ruggedized phones.

    3. Re: Fuck this summary/ad by jimbo · · Score: 1

      It's all about the touchdown.

    4. Re:Fuck this summary/ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The whole article is a complete mess of inexactitude. First it tells us they're using a 35-point scale, then gives the final score as X out of 10. WTF, geniuses? If you're going to act technical, at least be consistent.

    5. Re:Fuck this summary/ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It mentions that they divide the 35-point score by 3.5 to get a score out of ten. If you're going to act technical, at least read the summary.

  4. Chance... by Luthair · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well not exactly chance, but its all in how the phone hits the ground - a sample size of 1 can hardly be considered meaningful indicator.

    1. Re:Chance... by markdavis · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ^^^ +1

      You can drop a phone JUST RIGHT only a few feet from soft ground and have it shatter, or the same phone from 5 feet on concrete and it survive fine. A sample size of 1 tells you almost nothing. I would venture it would take at least 10 drops, each test being a NEW phone, before you could get even a slight chance of knowing anything useful. And even then, it would only tell you about that height and that material it was dropped onto. Of course, that would be VERY expensive testing!

      Even discounting the sample sizes of just ONE phone, dropped REPEATEDLY, who actually carries a phone without at least SOME type of case? Nobody I know...

    2. Re:Chance... by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

      a sample size of 1 can hardly be considered meaningful indicator.

      Well, please feel free to drop your phone down the toilet and let us all know how well it held up.

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    3. Re:Chance... by Mr0bvious · · Score: 2

      This was a "test" done by Tom's Guide, their test was useful as a fart in a storm.

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    4. Re:Chance... by green1 · · Score: 1

      Exactly this.
      I had one phone that I dropped from 25' up on to concrete and it survived just fine, but a month later I dropped the same phone one foot on to packed dirt and the screen shattered. It's all about how it lands

    5. Re:Chance... by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      idk, we knew nothing before, so it's something. They put some thought into it. Somewhat more thought out than what I did when I was looking at buying a new phone. I'm at the apple dealer, I toss my caseless BB on the ground and it goes bouncing along the carpet. I say to the salesman, "can you do that with your iPhone?". He says yes and does so. In this case it was a "poorly designed test", though, because he didn't take the case off, and he made sure it landed flat on its back.

      So, the trick is to add this data point, and Tom's Hardware's data points, and I think there's an app you can buy that makes a game out of finding out how high you can throw your iPhone so maybe we can get data points from an online feed; bake in some statistics and see what we get.

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    6. Re:Chance... by ericlondaits · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I carry my phone without a case, for the same reason I'd carry a baby without one... don't drop it.

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    7. Re:Chance... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Well fortunately for you they dropped them a number of times in a number of ways.

    8. Re:Chance... by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      You don't get a sample size of more than one, but you will likely drop your phone more than once. This isn't actually a bad test. They dropped the phones a number of times a number of different ways and assigned a score based on damage.

      who actually carries a phone without at least SOME type of case? Nobody I know...

      And? What are you testing, the quality of the case or the quality of the phone? The base quality of the phone has a lot to do with how well it will survive after you put a case on it. It may even have an affect on which case you chose to buy. In any case this is a baseline test.

    9. Re:Chance... by fred6666 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      so you don't use a car seat for your baby because you don't crash your car, right?

    10. Re:Chance... by OffaMyLawn · · Score: 1

      I actually carry my phone without a case. I do, however, have the Motorola Z2 Force, and have the Motorola TurboPower mod stuck on it all the time (in efficiency mode, the battery life is insane).

      I've dropped it, and had the mod and phone fly in separate directions. Outside of a couple minor scratches on the metal frame, there is no evidence this thing hasn't been used gently everywhere I've had it.

    11. Re:Chance... by Matheus · · Score: 1

      I also don't use a case (I don't like the extra bulk or any of how it hinders access to phone controls) but have to say shit happens.. I mean I grew up when car seats weren't mandatory and made it out just fine but enough others didn't that they added the regulations.

      That being said: Out of the 10 phones I've had in 23 years I've only ever damaged 2 of them.. the rest died of old age (typically can't hold a charge anymore even with new battery or software updates exceeded the power of the phone making it painful to use). I've been a Motorola loyalist for a number of reasons and (even if this article is a Slashvertisement) that Motorola phone sitting at the top of the list has been accurate in my experience. The 2 damaged ones both met roughly the same fate: Drop from distance, face down on a large pointy rock nuked the screen (the most dramatic of which was me recording a video and someone spiking the phone out of my hands!). Basically the worst case scenario for a "shatter proof" (really resistant) screen. The rest have taken plenty of falls to no effect. My first Moto-X took a 20' flight to concrete and didn't even scratch.

      So yeah the "study" is not the best and is definitely more of an ad than research BUT that doesn't negate the results matching reality. Your call whether you choose to use said data in your next buying decision :)

    12. Re:Chance... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a case on my phone, but it's mostly to make it easier to hold and to customise it. I use a Cruzerlite case, so it's really thin, wireless charging works fine through it and it looks cool.

    13. Re:Chance... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because a fart outside of a storm is useful? What the fuck are you even talking about?

  5. Nothing from HTC? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

    Did their market share sink so low that everyone forgot about them?

    1. Re:Nothing from HTC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps they are irrelevant now.

    2. Re:Nothing from HTC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google bought out the HTC smartphone team. HTC is building the pixel phones now.

    3. Re:Nothing from HTC? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Google bought half the smartphone team, the people HTC had working on the Google phones. HTC is still making their own phones. They just announced the U12 Plus.

  6. 10/10 reference was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The Nokia 3210 of course.

    1. Re:10/10 reference was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nokia 3595 - Toughness score = 10,000,000/10

      And a better PHONE than any "phone" you can buy today!

    2. Re:10/10 reference was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better at being a phone than any smart phone on the market.

      Too bad I don't really use the phone part of my smart phone anymore. I let out an audible sigh when my phone rings because I know I'm going to have to talk to someone or navigate my voicemail if I don't answer in time.

  7. Quite a gap there. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much do you suppose Motorola are paying?

  8. Herpaderp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm an imbecile who drops me phone!
    Oh, wait... I use iPhones exclusively and am not an idiot.

    1. Re:Herpaderp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uhhhhhhh....

      got news for you...

      but you won't like it. or believe it...

    2. Re:Herpaderp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awwww. It used to be cute when people thought they were better because they bought iphones.
      Now its just sad.

  9. iPhone X is stronger than it appears by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The way I've gone with modern phones is, I use it mostly without a case until the first time it gets noticeable damage, then I get a case for the remainder of the time I use it.

    I got the iPhone X at launch and so far it's held up pretty well. It's not like I've never dropped it, I've dropped it onto a number of hard surfaces including a pretty high drop onto concrete where it hit the corner. But so far, you really can't even tell it's been dropped.

    If you think about it, it should hold up better than most previous iPhones - the metal band is pretty resilient, and with it having less surface area than an iPhone plus model along with stronger glass, should be more resistant to damage. The results of the tests reflect that.

    What do I mean by mostly - for hiking I'm not insane, I have a pretty rugged case I break out that is way more than I'd want to deal with with in a city but it helpful around lots of jagged rocks.

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    1. Re:iPhone X is stronger than it appears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What do I mean by mostly - for hiking I'm not insane, I have a pretty rugged case I break out that is way more than I'd want to deal with with in a city but it helpful around lots of jagged rocks.

      Can you really call it hiking if your cellphone still works?

      It's just a scenic walk.

    2. Re:iPhone X is stronger than it appears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should try a country with good cell coverage.

    3. Re:iPhone X is stronger than it appears by green1 · · Score: 2

      You should try a country with good mountain ranges.

    4. Re: iPhone X is stronger than it appears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously....

      Norway is a country with low density of population and serious nature areas, including fjords and mountains. Still, cell coverage in general is excellent wherever you are. I do not know where you are from but please do not make the mistake that your experiences are symptomatic for the all of the rest of the world.

    5. Re: iPhone X is stronger than it appears by green1 · · Score: 1

      I live in a country with 1/4 the population density of Norway, and where Norway's tallest mountain wouldn't crack the top 100 of ours. We have 3 times more protected nature area than Norway has total surface area.

      Seriously, the reason you have such great cell coverage everywhere is your high population density, and lack of major mountain ranges. It's easy to have good coverage in an area like that.

    6. Re:iPhone X is stronger than it appears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you don't have mountains doesn't mean you're not hiking. This is a false metric.

      And I can assure you that there is cell coverage in some reputable mountain ranges.

    7. Re:iPhone X is stronger than it appears by green1 · · Score: 1

      If you can see civilization (including seeing cell towers) you aren't really "getting away from it all"

  10. dropped in the toilet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "And if it died when dropped into the toilet, it lost 2.5 percent."
    Uh...I ain't putting that thing near my head no more.

    1. Re:dropped in the toilet? by jouassou · · Score: 1

      If it survives the toilet, it probably survives being washed with ethanol.

  11. Will it blend? by thesjaakspoiler · · Score: 1

    That should have been the question.

    1. Re:Will it blend? by AndyMcL · · Score: 1

      I would give you points if I could for the Blendtec reference. Those things rock and are tougher than Chuck Norris (action figures)!

  12. OP 5T 4.3/ 10? Shoulda tested OP 6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OP6 made of glass which is gorilla strong with better than ever others in all avenues.

  13. rugged phones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I want to see the toughest ruggedized phone

  14. Just get something cheap and light by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    I've got an LG something or other with a cheap plastic back. I've dropped it on concrete more than once. It's like a bug hitting a windshield, not enough weight to go splat.

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    1. Re:Just get something cheap and light by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      It's like a bug hitting a windshield, not enough weight to go splat.

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    2. Re:Just get something cheap and light by burtosis · · Score: 1

      The weight won't affect the rate it falls in a significant way, and I assume it's similar in size to other phones so the physics is about the same scale. but having a bulky plastic frame that's light gives it great strength to weight and impact resistance. The plastic can deform more than metal giving it more distance to stop and this lowers the forces on internal parts. as long as brittle stuff like the screen is away from the edges it makes for a tough design.

    3. Re:Just get something cheap and light by avandesande · · Score: 1

      I've got my LG in a credit card case... protects the phone and no more wallet

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    4. Re:Just get something cheap and light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We need a "ewwww" moderating option.

    5. Re:Just get something cheap and light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, weight does not affect the rate it falls. However, weight DOES affect the amount of force upon impact. Force is directly proportional to mass when acceleration is constant (and yes, I know weight is not mass but it's close enough for this discussion). Size is irrelevant.

  15. MOTO Z2 WIFI BUG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not but the Moto z2. 50/50 chance it will drop your WiFi constantly and then you will be stuck with an expensive phone that only half works. Try streaming anything when your WiFi constantly drops. I went over by data sitting on my couch.

    Got a replacement phone and it had the same problem right out of the box. Verizon terrible customer service refused to take phone back even though Motorola openly admit it's a known bug with no fix.

    Many people have this problem. On my two home WiFi networks it drops very often but is totally stable at my gf house.

    Many other devices on my WiFi, only Moto Z2 can't stay connected.

    Very poor quality control from Motorola and terrible customer service from Verizon.

    Buyer beware.

  16. Hah! by nightfire-unique · · Score: 1

    I've got a ZeroLemon 10,000mAh TPU battery and case on my Note 3. I scoff at my friends and their cracked displays, and just to prove the point, often toss my phone onto the ground as a demonstration.

    It's possible to engineer rugged devices. It baffles me as to why people don't demand them (and replaceable wear items, such as batteries).

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    A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
    1. Re:Hah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got a ZeroLemon 10,000mAh TPU battery and case on my Note 3. I scoff at my friends and their cracked displays, and just to prove the point, often toss my phone onto the ground as a demonstration.

      It's possible to engineer rugged devices. It baffles me as to why people don't demand them (and replaceable wear items, such as batteries).

      I have a ZeroLemon case on my Oneplus 3, but I wouldn't recommend it others or scoff at anyone.
      The damn thing is a brick and it weighs as much as one.

    2. Re:Hah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I buy Xiaomi phones. Good quality hardware at a fraction of the price. So if they do break it's not the end of the world. Being careful with my phones means that I don't have to use an expensive case, just a cheap cover.

    3. Re:Hah! by iampiti · · Score: 1

      I guess people don't demand ruggedized phones because they're bulky. I think your solution is fine: The phone itself is pretty thin but you can always add a strong case if you want it to be tougher.
      Anyway, if something isn't made you can't buy it so that may also explain why people don't buy phones with replaceable batteries or with feature X.

  17. The winner ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The winner would be a Palm Treo from 2005, before the thin, fragile phablet craze took over.

    So why don't they make phones in that form factor now ?!

    1. Re: The winner ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm reading this on a Sonim XP7. It looks very much like a Treo.

  18. Moto g5 plus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've actually dropped my moto g5 plus twice so far when rock climbing. One outdoors into hard dirt from 5m, once indoor from much higher.still 100%

    So.. Not sure how accurate these scores are. That being said, Motorola has screwed us on firmware

  19. Qualitative American science. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the current state and quality of American science -- a test that is so flawed, using so few variables (small selection of phones) and generates so few data points, that repeating it just once would give a completely different result.

    This is the kind of "science" that is put out by cranks, and only serve for cool youtube videos for kids. American quality science.

  20. None of those are cool anyway by Misagon · · Score: 1

    Not a single Japanese flip-phone on that list ...

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    "We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
  21. dfdsfssssszs by svmsunnnnnn · · Score: 1

    http://www.tmshrink.com// sdfsd

  22. Umm...cases? by valnar · · Score: 2

    Most of this data is irrelevant unless you're a teenage girl who doesn't use a protective case so it'll fit in her back pocket.

    1. Re:Umm...cases? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you're saying is, teenage girls don't like to use protection?

  23. The force is not strong by Presence+Eternal · · Score: 1

    The Z2 Force is not tough by any sane metric. I bought one to try out t-mobile, and the display literally got scratched sitting on a cluttered desk waiting to be sold. My Note 4 was pristine after three years of being shuffled around my desk, bed, and in the same pocket as my wallet and favorite pen.

    1. Re:The force is not strong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shatter proof usually means a non-glass display which scratches fairly easy (you'll want a screen protector).

      A glass display usually mean a shattered display. (you'll want a rugged case)

      Which one fits your usage better? I actually prefer the shatterproof one, since I can simply put some practically inviisble thing on it to protect it.

  24. No Samsung S* Active? by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 1

    The Active variants of the Galaxy S line have treated me and my boys well since the S6 Active. I recently upgraded to an S8 Active so my youngest could inherit my old S6 Active. Now they do say they are looking at "nonrugged" phones at the top, but then they call the LG X Venture a "value priced rugged phone", so who knows.

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  25. No sense in being redundant. by trudyscousin · · Score: 1

    If a phone was rendered unusable -- the screen totally shattered, for instance -- then we stopped dropping it

    Then they could determine if it would blend.

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    Those who can, do. Those who can't, write technology blogs.
  26. IPhone SE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dropped my iPhone SE from a 3rd story balcony onto rocks. Works perfectly. Bumper had a couple scratches. 3.9 score I guess Iâ(TM)m lucky.

  27. Essential phone toughness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about the Essential PH-1? Any idea what its toughness rating is?

  28. Style ought not to be a part of the DNA of a phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The style of a phone ought to be essentially a bullet proof one and the company itself ought to build a specific waterproof and drop proof case for their own models. It is not an impossible task but it will not satisfy those that want elegance and light designs. My phone resides in a rubbery klutzy case. It works..it is not elegant.