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Senate Will Try To Reverse ZTE Deal Via a Must-Pass Defense Bill (politico.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Senate leaders agreed Monday to include language in the annual defense spending bill that would reverse the Trump administration's decision to save Chinese telecommunications company ZTE after it was caught violating the terms of a 2017 penalty agreement by making illegal sales to Iran and North Korea. The language will be part of an amendment in the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act, a $716 billion defense policy bill, H.R. 5515 (115).
If the Senate amendment becomes law, it would automatically reinstate the seven-year prohibition until Trump has certified to Congress that ZTE has met certain conditions. It also would ban all U.S. government agencies from purchasing or leasing telecommunications equipment and/or services from ZTE, a second Chinese telecommunications firm, Huawei, or any subsidiaries or affiliates of those two companies. The amendment language "prohibits the federal government from doing business with ZTE or Huawei or other Chinese telecom companies" and puts the company back on the sanctions list and "holds ZTE accountable for violating their previous commitment," Cotton said. The senators supporting the amendment include Democratic minority leader Chuck Schumer and two Republican Senators -- Sen Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.). "I and obviously every other senator believes the death penalty is the appropriate punishment for their behavior," Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) told reporters after Ross briefed senators on the department's latest ZTE action. "They're a repeat bad actor that should be put out of business. For eight years, ZTE was able to run wild and be able to become the fourth-largest telecom company in the world." If the Senate amendment becomes law, "I would expect there wouldn't be a ZTE," Cotton added.
If the Senate amendment becomes law, it would automatically reinstate the seven-year prohibition until Trump has certified to Congress that ZTE has met certain conditions. It also would ban all U.S. government agencies from purchasing or leasing telecommunications equipment and/or services from ZTE, a second Chinese telecommunications firm, Huawei, or any subsidiaries or affiliates of those two companies. The amendment language "prohibits the federal government from doing business with ZTE or Huawei or other Chinese telecom companies" and puts the company back on the sanctions list and "holds ZTE accountable for violating their previous commitment," Cotton said. The senators supporting the amendment include Democratic minority leader Chuck Schumer and two Republican Senators -- Sen Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.). "I and obviously every other senator believes the death penalty is the appropriate punishment for their behavior," Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) told reporters after Ross briefed senators on the department's latest ZTE action. "They're a repeat bad actor that should be put out of business. For eight years, ZTE was able to run wild and be able to become the fourth-largest telecom company in the world." If the Senate amendment becomes law, "I would expect there wouldn't be a ZTE," Cotton added.
Donald Trump is letting a Chinese company sell hacked phones used as surveillance department for the Chinese government.
The only explanation is that this is part of Trump's surrender to North Korea and China.
Why allow Wells Fargo to live?
Wow, that is wrong.
If someone needs a phone and doesn't get it from ZTE, they will simply buy another brand. And since every phone has a SoC, the number of SoCs sold will remain about the same.
There is no reason at all to support ZTE. They flout US laws, and there are many, many competitors who will be happy to make phones for us while following US law.
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What about the past year and a half could possibly make you think Trump cares anything about "American jobs"?
Lots...provided that "American job" is being CEO of a large company.
They were filing bankruptcy in the wake of the initial sanctions. The problem is not only being shut out of their 2nd-largest market. Sanctions also prohibit US companies from selling to ZTE, which restricts their ability to acquire components.
Maybe ZTE could survive, but that is far from certain. They have strong domestic competitors in Huawei and Xiaomi, and both of those companies enjoy full access to Western suppliers and markets.
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ZTE is going down! Where will the Dollar Store source their phones from now?
Can't wait to hear reactions from Trump minions. I'm sure Peter Navarro will have some choice words about warm real-estate for the Senators (good thing they aren't also Canadian - whew) for going against Trump. ( Although, the imagery of Senators stabbing Trump in the back sounds a little familiar ... How Similar are Trump and Caesar? )
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Seems like this would have the unintended side effect of creating competition for those component suppliers. I'm sure all of the Chinese electronics manufacturers are now scrambling to figure out what parts they're importing from the US and whether they can find an alternate supplier.
America cant have this cake and eat it too.
Yet, Trump, his administration and supporters believe they can (and deserve it).
... saddled with an illiterate profiteer as its head of state, and hes doing a rather poor job of keeping the curtain closed on who actually runs America.
Trump said he would "drain the swamp." He *never* said he wouldn't fill it back up again.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Given that the same people are still living in the swamp, i see no evidence of draining.
I'm not opposed to this in principle, but isn't it technically a bill of attainer, which, for very good reasons, is unconstitutional?
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Yup, agreed. [ I was being sarcastic. ]
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
the only reasonable conclusion is that Donald is planning talks with Tehran.
Same mojo - tear up the Obama agreement and get into a rage over nucular then sign a document a year later.
One of the advantages of conscription - especially when the ruling class cannot get exemptions - is that the entire population has skin in the game. It's you, or your children, or your friends children who are at risk of dying. Wars become less tempting as a policy option.
He hates China then he loves China then he hates Kim J. U. then he loves Kim then he's against gun background checks then he's for it then he's against it again...
Table-ized A.I.
Unless we can somehow get down to a 3nm node, and after that a 1nm node, then speed increases in CPUS will soon come to an end and CPUs will quickly become commodities, with no new research needed.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
This has been a bit of a wake-up call for the Chinese, and they are pushing hard to develop domestic tech to replace the US tech they currently rely on. Maybe if ZTE survives that effort will be lessened, but no matter what a lot of money is now going into R&D that directly harms US companies.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
It just means that Trump has to certify that they are meeting the conditions of having the sanctions lifted. Like paying that billion dollar fine. The part about the Federal government not buying their products is good. I don't know why it hasn't been a rule for a long time and applied to just about everything. The government (at any level) shouldn't be buying anything from China. Nor should anything Chinese be part of our infrastructure. That's a pretty obvious security issue.
What's this odd amendment crap? The Executive branch has the inherent authority to decide who to prosecute or whether to prosecute or not, But the Congress does not.
An "amendment" to a bill, Or a law Naming a specific person or company such as ZTE and stating that person or company are guilty of a crime or misdeed and/or applying a punishment to a specific company or individual is called a Bill of Attainder, And it is an Unconstitutional action for Congress to try and pass an instrument such as this (US Constitution, Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3: "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law will be passed.").
Congress is specifically denied the ability to pass a law naming an Individual or Corporation (such as ZTE) and imposing a punishment ---- this authority is reserved to the courts and to the executive; Congress is specifically denied the authority to find anyone guilty of anything -- that's for other branches of government to handle. So I sure hope this gets challenged appropriately.
Only if the "ruling" class can't get exemptions... and they will always be able to until the electorate change how they respond. If a man can be president while having dodged the draft for bone spurs that didn't stop him enjoying squash, tennis, and golf, and that went away with no medical treatment it simply isn't realistic to think that a draft could be implemented that wouldn't provide a way out for the wealthier and better connected in society.
How to Avoid Arguing in Bad Faith
^ for the record, anyone who upvoted that comment is adding another brick to the wall of ignorance that is infinitely more damaging to america than trump's fantasy mexican wall
lucm, indeed.
So, you're saying that the 500 million dollar deal doesn't exist or is a lefty story? [...] But if you want to just strawman
No. I called out the poster on his "fucking piece of neo-fascist enabling shit" comment, that's it. There is nowhere any mention of any deal in my comment, so if at some point you want to see what a real "strawman" is, read your own post.
to whoever modded that guy up: I hope you people are happy with the echo chamber you're building. Pretty soon there won't be discussions on this website, just a bunch of retards high-fiving each other and reacting to inflammatory op-eds. Bravo.
lucm, indeed.