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'The Word Hack is Meaningless and Should Be Retired' (thenextweb.com)

An anonymous reader quotes The Next Web: The word 'hack' used to mean something, and hackers were known for their technical brilliance and creativity. Now, literally anything is a hack -- anything -- to the point where the term is meaningless, and should be retired. The most egregious abuse of the term "hack" comes from the BBC's Dougal Shaw. In a recent video of his, called "My lunch hack," Shaw demonstrates that it's cheaper to make your own sandwich each day than it is to buy a pre-packaged sandwich from the supermarket. Shaw calls that a hack. I call it common sense.

And that's not nearly the worst example. I haven't touched on "life hacks" yet. This term is nebulous. It means nothing and anything. It's used to describe arts and crafts... That said, the worst dilution of the term "hack" comes from growth hackers... Anyway, I regret to inform you that the word "hack" is now bad, and should be avoided.

A request for alternative words first went up on Slashdot back in 1999 -- but nothing's been settled. Back in 2014 a Gizmodo reporter wrote an impassioned plea titled "Please stop calling everything a hack" -- while others have argued the opposite.

in 2015 the editorial director of Make magazine cited hack's definition in The New Hacker's Dictionary as "an appropriate application of ingenuity," arguing that "my and other Make contributors' use of the term for clever shop techniques, ingeniously simple projects, and epic 'kluges' (i.e. Rube Goldberg-level hacks and fixes) is entirely appropriate."

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  1. Or not by Notabadguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You have to go down 14 definitions of "hack" to get to to this:
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    Computers.
    to modify a computer program or electronic device in a skillful or clever way: to hack around with HTML.
    to break into a network, computer, file, etc., usually with malicious intent.
    http://www.dictionary.com/brow...
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    Hacking may have been popularized to describe computer hacking, but it means MANY OTHER THINGS TOO.

    1. Re: Or not by Notabadguy · · Score: 2

      Right. Like how the word "hack" could be used to describe TFA.

      I'm not sure the author can hack it as a writer.

    2. Re:Or not by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      And technically breaking into a network with malicious intent was called cracking, not hacking.

    3. Re:Or not by geekmux · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hacking may have been popularized to describe computer hacking, but it means MANY OTHER THINGS TOO.

      Your point is completely lost on the fact that most words hold multiple definitions. This is why it often comes down to everyday vernacular. If you hear the word "spam" at work, you can safely assume someone is talking about unwanted email and not shitty canned meat. Every email in the world is not spam, just like making your own lunch instead of buying it is not a hack. And changing a car tire doesn't mean you start calling yourself a mechanic. I drove to work instead of walking; does that mean I "hacked" my commute? Am I a "hacker" now? Give me a fucking break.

      We created the term script kiddie to differentiate the idiots from those who actually have computer skills. Perhaps we should come up with a term to describe the life kiddie who thinks every efficiency in life is a hack. Since we're all about generalizing, I say we use "Millennial"...after all, moron probably has too many definitions.

    4. Re:Or not by mentil · · Score: 1

      How clever is 'clever'? How skillful is 'skillful'? Some words are just inherently nebulous. How obscure does something have to be to be a 'hack'?
      What might be painfully obvious to one person could be a life-changing epiphany to a patent examiner, apparently.

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      Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
    5. Re:Or not by Kjella · · Score: 1

      to modify a computer program or electronic device in a skillful or clever way: to hack around with HTML.

      That definition makes hacks sound like a good thing, it definitively needs some balance that hacks are usually kludges and quick fixes. A hack and a hacker are on opposite sites of the skill scale, so are clever hacks and dirty hacks. Hacks themselves are more neutral, they're small modifications to bypass/replace other code like security systems, safety systems, malfunctioning code or add new functionality. If they're poor, great or malicious depends on the nature of the hack.

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    6. Re:Or not by mccalli · · Score: 1

      Naah - this is retconning. It was always called hacking. Cracking was breaking the copy protection on games etc..

    7. Re:Or not by zifn4b · · Score: 1

      A hack means more or less, a shortcut to get to a desired result. Shortcut means a way to do such a thing that is not normally considered the conventional way or best practice to get the result. Sometimes hacks can be good. Sometimes hacks can have side effects and long-term consequences.

      For example, a software engineering hack in which a software algorithm is generating undesirable results given a set of particular inputs is forced to return the correct results, short-circuiting the actual algorithm would be considered a hack. It would also run great risk in producing side effects and technical debt (long term cost to the business).

      This term should not be retired. What other term would we use to refer to this sort of thing?

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    8. Re:Or not by zifn4b · · Score: 1

      Hacks are shortcuts. Whether they are "clever" or "skillful" depends on the hack.

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      We'll make great pets
    9. Re:Or not by msauve · · Score: 1

      Wrong dictionary, wrong definition.

      "BBC's Dougal Shaw... demonstrates that it's cheaper to make your own sandwich each day than it is to buy a pre-packaged sandwich from the supermarket."

      Surely, this is a near-perfect example of a hack.

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      "National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
    10. Re:Or not by zifn4b · · Score: 1

      Actually no. Almost everything that we do today was probably once considered a "hack" compared to "traditional" methods. That "hacks" that survived were the most useful. It's a natural, evolutionary phenomenon just like everything else. See Richard Dawkins: The Selfish Gene.

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    11. Re: Or not by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I have a nephew who has become a rather successful developer. He happens to be of the 'millinneal' generation. He is sort of an exception to the rule, but isn't that always so?

  2. Linguistics hack: use a dictionary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As it so happens, one of the definitions of "hack" is "a writer or journalist producing dull, unoriginal work".

    Is that relevant? It sounds relevant.

    1. Re: Linguistics hack: use a dictionary by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Lucasfilm's lawyers will not allow this.

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    2. Re:Linguistics hack: use a dictionary by houghi · · Score: 1

      OTOH just because a word or a meaning is NOT in a dictionary does not mean it is wrong to use it in another way.
      Dictionaries are not some sort of defining factor to make a word legal or not. The dictionary is merely a very extensive list of words with an explanation. It is in no way a limiting factor in any language.

      Or from merriam-webster.com (Emphasis mine)

      Dictionaries and reality

      Most general English dictionaries are designed to include only those words that meet certain criteria of usage across wide areas and over extended periods of time. As a result, they may omit words that are still in the process of becoming established, those that are too highly specialized, or those that are so informal that they are rarely documented in professionally edited writing. The words left out are as real as those that gain entry; the former simply haven't met the criteria for dictionary entry â" at least not yet (newer ones may ultimately gain admission to the dictionary's pages if they gain sufficient use).

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    3. Re:Linguistics hack: use a dictionary by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

      MacGyver was the biggest hack...

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  3. Tuff! by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    English is a hack and you can't do diddly shit about it!

  4. This proposal ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... is cromulent and deserves further consideration.

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    Have gnu, will travel.
    1. Re:This proposal ... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      your beamish words embiggened my soul

  5. My definition of "Hack (v): " by wierd_w · · Score: 2

    1) To circumvent a restriction (usually technical) through the application of obscure knowledge or by exploitation of unexpected behaviors of a system.

    "This stupid thing's security routine has tripped again-- Can you hack it for me Bob?"

    Hack (n):

    1) An implementation of an exploit or technical circumvention of an imposed restriction on a system. Usually technical.

    "I wrote a dirty hack to get root access to fix Steve's login problem; The security model of this system needs some serious revision."

    2) A person who is unqualified for their current vocational position.

    "I met the new database administrator today. The guy is a total hack; could not put together a tuple query to save his own ass."

    So-- Am I using these words wrong in terms of modern parlance?

    1. Re:My definition of "Hack (v): " by Misagon · · Score: 2

      The origin of 1 (noun and verb) is from "hack saw". The verb "hack" means literally to use the hack saw. It then was used to mean doing a simple ugly fix using the hack saw, a kludge,or a bodge.

      Students at MIT were hacking and bodging things in the real world to commit practical pranks that modified something at the campus.
      These pranks (with hack saw or not) were called "hacks" and clever pranksters at MIT were called "hackers". Later such hackers from MIT were influential on early personal computing as we know it.

      So, I would argue that the use of "life hack" to mean "bodging something in a clever but ugly way" is closer to the original meaning of the word than to mean breaking into a system.

      BTW. Practical jokes have a long history at universities around the world and they are still called "hacks" over at MIT.
      The second noun use ("unqualified person") has a completely different etymology (origin of words) than the first and is not related but it does give the word a negative connotation in general doesn't it ...

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  6. Yet another dictat concerning 'hack' by DRJlaw · · Score: 2

    Anyway, I regret to inform you that the word "hack" is now bad, and should be avoided.

    The unwashed 'you' listened so well when the community dictated that 'hacking' was to be reserved for productive uses of technology rather than malicious 'cracking.'

    The unwashed 'you' listened so well when the community dictated that 'hacking' was to be reserved for uses that required technical skill rather than script kiddies' ignorant throw-it-at-the-wall uses of others' prepackaged tools.

    But now, now the unwashed 'you' will listen to advice to avoid calling everything 'hacking' and the results a 'hack.'

    Bwahahaha... keep dreaming.

  7. Here's a valuable life hack by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's a little-known language hack that can help you feel less stressed out by things like this. It's called a homonym.

    That's when different words with different meanings have both the same spelling and pronunciation. Strange, but true.

    How can you tell them apart? Well, you have to use context:

    If somebody is talking a about a "hack" that uses apple cider vinegar, then you know that it's some silly folk remedy.

    If somebody is talking about a hack that involves breaking into a computer system, then you know that they're talking about cybercrime.

    If somebody is talking about a hack that involves a clever and unorthodox programming method, then you know that some geek figured out a labor-saving way to solve a problem.

    If somebody is talking about a hack and it involves felling a tree, then you know that they're wielding an ax.

    The list goes on, but you get the idea. This is how human language works. If you accept that, then you will live a less stressful life.

    1. Re:Here's a valuable life hack by Solandri · · Score: 1

      The writer of TFA is a hack.

    2. Re:Here's a valuable life hack by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

      IMHO, these are polysemic rather than homonymous, because they can all be traced back to the same origin with little imagination. Most or your examples are in the category "quick and dirty solution" that derives from the method of hacking down a tree.

      Homonyms, OTOH, are words that happen to share the spelling/pronunciation even if they come from different origins. In a way, polysemy is a divergence and homonymy a convergence in the evolution of a language.

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      Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
  8. Missed #7 (first other than "cut" roughly) by raymorris · · Score: 2

    I think you missed #7. The first six are all variants of "cut, crudely". The first definition other than "cut" is:

    Computers.
    A) to modify (a computer program or electronic device) or write (a program) in a skillful or clever way:

    B) to circumvent security and break into (a network, computer, file, etc.), usually with malicious intent

    As a career "hacker", I'd say that 7b could be refined to better indicate what is meant by "circumvent security" or "break" into. Knowing somebody's password isn't breaking in. That's just going in. Circumventing, breaking into a computer, requires doing something clever or skillful. It is therefore a subset of 7a.

    That definition is also overly specific - people hacked the phone system, and specifically pay phones, before they hacked computers. They used the word hacking for that, as well as phreaking.

    In my opinion and usage, to hack means to manipulate a system in order to use it in a way very much not intended by the creators of the system. Especially manipulating it to use it in a way that the creators sought to prevent.

    Hacking old, out-of-print, unsupported software could be for good motives, such as retrieving data for the user. Hacking Slashdot could be done for bad motives. The commonality is that the creators didn't intend to allow or facilitate the action.

    I've modified the compiled binaries of swf files long after the source code was lost, in order to keep a site working. I hacked the files - nobody ever intended for swf files to be updated by directly modifying them, such as with hexedit.

    1. Re:Missed #7 (first other than "cut" roughly) by wierd_w · · Score: 2

      I would go with an amalgam of my personal internal definition (used below) and their "Skillful and clever" verbiage.

      I think that would neatly cover nearly all computer/tech-circle definitions of hack.

      To circumvent a restriction imposed on a system in a clever or skillful way using obscure knowledge or by exploitation of unexpected behaviors of that system.

      You know, the kind of thing mentioned in "Smashing the stack for fun and profit"

    2. Re:Missed #7 (first other than "cut" roughly) by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      In common parlance, hacking (in the sense of breaking into a computer system) includes phishing or other social engineering tricks, brute-forcing a password file obtained elsewhere and trying passwords used on other sites, etc. None of that manipulates the system under attack.

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      If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
    3. Re:Missed #7 (first other than "cut" roughly) by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Funny

      In common parlance, hacking means noticing that a website has '?user=2383' in the address bar and wondering what happens if you change the number.

  9. hacker-sleuth: finding the mad hacker by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    what if I'm watching a cyber-horror film and the protagonist is accessing files illegally to track down a killer that chops up his victims who is also a failing writer of homeopathic books?

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    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  10. Basically any tech term is coopted by the public by Alan+Evans · · Score: 1

    Hack - "lifehack" Code - "learn to code" Cloud - "in the cloud" to mean "I don't know where it is" or "to give away all one's personal data" Ping - "ping me later" Program - "program my phone"

  11. Words are words by peppepz · · Score: 2

    It is in the nature of words to have more than one meaning, and to acquire and lose ones depending on the cultural environment and the shifting sensibility. The very usage of the word "hack" to mean "to program" is the result of a fad in a certain scene. Don't play the dictionary police, it's infantile and counterproductive.

    1. Re:Words are words by houghi · · Score: 1

      To go even further: Not even the dictonaries play the dictionary police : https://www.merriam-webster.co...
      The words left out are as real as those that gain entry; the former simply haven't met the criteria for dictionary entry â" at least not yet

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  12. Hack needs to be taken back by Dracos · · Score: 1

    The tech-illiterate media essentially stole the word to fearmonger with, then its meaning became diluted and distorted though constant overuse and improper use.

    I offer this definition:

    Modifying an object or system to change its capability or purpose, especially in ways unintended or unforeseen by the creator.

    That definition fits everything from making a paper airplane (among the simplest hacks, that almost everyone has seen), hardware/software exploits, to cybernetic implants, and most of what the maker community does. Importantly, it says nothing about the moral/virtuous nature of the functional change, only that there was a change.

    We, the technical community, need to seize control of the word and enforce its proper usage.

  13. Set by schure · · Score: 1

    "set" has way too many meanings. Thus it's meaningless and should be retired.

  14. Sounds like “hacker vs cracker”, redux by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Language is fluid. Over time, words change meaning through use - sometimes in ways we find stupid or annoying. But that’s just the way it goes.

    I hate the term “life hack”. I hope it dies in a fire. But I have very little control over whether that excremental little turn of phrase ends up having staying power, or if it deservedly fades into oblivion along with the talentless hacks (hey, see what I did there?) who are trying to promote themselves by adopting it.

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  15. 'Has multiple meanings' != 'meaningless' by ET3D · · Score: 1

    If you're arguing word abuse, don't do it yourself.

  16. You don't Learn to Hack, You Hack to Learn. by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    If you don't learn from your hack each time you do it, it's not a hack. The things people call hacks aren't really hacks by that definition either. This original definition isn't in the article that I could find.

    Unfortunately geek culture was high-jacked by people unwilling to apply those standards to themselves and that is something we have to acknowledge. If course the short answer is not to derive a new meaning but to reclaim it by associating deliberate breaches of computer security with cracking and learning a new computer hack as hacking.

    Who gives a shit if the mass of people get it wrong if nerds and geeks use it the way it is intended, just let them go Huh? and try to figure out how they got it wrong. Nothing is foolproof because fools are so ingenious and since no one has invented a way to fix stupid I see little point wasting brain power on inventing a new terminology when I could be hacking my way through code.

    What about that for a hack?

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    My ism, it's full of beliefs.
  17. Re:No, and that's the problem by wierd_w · · Score: 1

    When I think of "Hacker"-- the thing that immediate comes to mind is the august usenet/bbs article known as "Smashing the stack for fun and profit", which details the finer points of identifying a section of code that can be used for a buffer overflow/stack smash attack, how to create a payload to get executed, and how to implement the attack-- in general terms, rather than specific instances.

    You know, this lovely thing:
    http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley....

    Very informative, but not for the novice. In many respects it is just as applicable today as it was when it was written, albeit with some caveats about heap randomization and some other modern features intended to frustrate this kind of attack.

    Maybe I am just old and don't realize it?

    I know, it became "Cool" (ahem) to become a "Hacker" in the 90s and 2000s, and now there are all sorts of people who believe (falsely) that they are real hackers. But they really are not. No, if you want to find those, (real hackers) look for the people who bust open game consoles, and who do the actual research and development of the tools all the kiddies use. Using the tools others made does not make you a hacker. Knowing how to make those tools, and how those tools actually work-- that is what makes you a hacker. You need to have the domain knowledge needed to have a firm grasp of a system and its architecture to identify and then exploit potential areas where "unanticipated" behavior can occur, then be clever enough to engineer reliable circumstances to trigger those "unanticipated" behaviors. Without that, you cannot perform the task, and so-- not a hacker.

    It does not matter if you are hacking a payphone with a home-made bluebox, of if you are hacking your microwave oven to be able to produce high intensity plasma balls, or hacking a security system to gain privileged access. All of those things require domain knowledge that is not widespread, and is often controlled in its distribution. (which is why I used the word "obscure" in my definition.) Hacking can be enjoyable and easy, if you possess that knowledge. That knowledge is not easily obtained. It is at once difficult to obtain in the first place, and secondly, requires a specific kind of intellect to grasp fully. Hackers are basically masterful system users, that understand the systems they interact with better than their designers, and enjoy getting those systems to perform tasks the designers did not envision, or actively sought to prevent.

    This whole "Life hack" stuff is a result of previously widespread domains of knowledge becoming obscure.

    You know, like cooking. Can you produce a reduction glaze for your duck l'orange? Most people can't. For those people that know how to cook, it is a fun thing to make some time. Not something you want to do all the time, but if you want duck l'orange, you are not forced to go to a fancy french place and pay 200$. You can make it at home for closer to 15$. In this case, the "system" being exploited is the modern societal system, where the domain knowledge for being a good cook is becoming more rare, and the ability to gain the knowledge is becoming more difficult, (due to increasing time demands on people, so they lack the time or energy to develop the skill sets), and much like script kiddies using "quick and easy" methods produced by real hackers to accomplish tasks, there are "Life hacks" that allow people who haven't got a clue about something that used to be "ordinary to the point of banality", but are now the subject of ever more restricted domain knowledge and skill sets.

    It is not so much that the word is diluted; It is that the scope of what constitutes a system that can be exploited has been expanded, as people's domains of knowledge become smaller and smaller, (and as such, more and more previously banal domains of knowledge become obscure), and the upcoming generations simply do not know how to do something, do not really know w

  18. Solution by Sqreater · · Score: 1

    Programmers need to form a secret society with a secret handshake and magic words not to be uttered to outsiders. Oh, and a magic mysterious symbol. Then they could hand out power rings and decoders.

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    E Proelio Veritas.
  19. Re:Sounds like “hacker vs cracker”, re by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Language is fluid.

    Which is why, in the absence of effort to prevent it, it runs downhill till it reaches a drain.

    I hate the term ''life hack''. I hope it dies in a fire. But I have very little control over whether that excremental little turn of phrase ends up having staying power

    The best you can do is mentally label anyone who uses it as an utter bell-end and move on.

    P.S. Bizarre thing - the double quotes look OK in your post but when I copied them they went all a-hatty. WTF?

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  20. Hack Gallery at MIT Museum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The MIT Museum, in Cambridge, Massachusetts has a good hall of good hacks. It's described at http://hacks.mit.edu/exhibits/..., but the web page does *not* do it justice. I was involved in a few of them, back in the 80's, and MIT's hacks have a proud tradition.

  21. Litmus test by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    Just because something has multiple meanings doesn't make it meaningless, technically it makes it quite the opposite.

    Here's a simple litmus test for if a word should be "retired":

    1. Use word in context. Does someone know what you're talking about? > Don't retire word.

    This language hack brought to you by someone who's not at war with the ability to communicate with others.
    Don't like the word hack? You have 3 options:
    1. Find an english community that doesn't use it.
    2. Pick a language that doesn't use it.
    3. Sit around miserable and hope that one day it will change.

  22. Re:No, and that's the problem by wierd_w · · Score: 1

    It's not so much recommending that the use continue, as explaining how the apparent "dilution" has occurred.

    You stated your own take earlier, that a hack needs to be clever and inspiring. This requres suitable domain knowledge. again, when the baseline level of domain knowledge is very low, the conception of the idea to try something will not occur, and so even what to use appears to be a "No shit, idiot." suggestion can in fact be a "wow! COOL! I had no idea!" thing to a lot of people.

    Sadly, this includes doing dumbshit things with popcicle sticks, like most "Life Hacks" are.

    It is not a dilution of what at the core is the basis for the word "hack" or "hacker", it is a narrowing of the knowledgebase, and the subsequent dilution of what is considered state of the art in terms of "clever."

    People dont know that some things have been discovered/known about, and known about for a very long time--- because they are outside their knowledge domain. They independently discover it again, post a "hack" article, and other people in their social domain-- who likewise are intellectually starved-- find it amazing and cool. Yet, for old bastards like us, who have wider knowledge bases, the idea is "No shit. Tell me when you discover the wheel-- this is some old shit bro. Show me something really clever."

    This issue of the "wow" factor being such low fruit is how all that clickbait shit like "One weird trick!" is so powerful, and why the internet gets plastered with it like shit in a monkey pen.

    They are using the word properly. The problem, is that they are ignorant idiots that are easily impressed.

  23. The Word Hack is Meaningless and Should Be Retired by edittard · · Score: 1

    Editor David is also Meaningless and Should Be Retired.

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  24. Stop trying to police language! by tofus · · Score: 1

    Language is dynamic, not static. Words don't have explicit meaning, they have usage. When people no longer have any use for a word, it will automatically run out of fashion and out of the general vocabulary. Arguing to 'retire' words just because a word has loss its use for YOU is, in my opinion, rather arrogant.

  25. Also... by Mats+Svensson · · Score: 1

    The words:
    "Cookie" & "Consent"
    Those words has lost all meaning now.
    Burn them, and piss on the ashes!

    Oh, and:
    "Policy"

    1. Re:Also... by hambone142 · · Score: 1

      You forgot "gizmo".

      I can't believe I'm still seeing this word in the press (usually by an author that knows absolutely nothing about the item being discussed).

  26. Re:No, it has a meaning, doesn't matter what you s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sounds like you are too young to know what you are talking about.

    Yes "hack" had that meaning among the group and the period you describe.

    What about before?

    Don't know do you.

  27. Hack == Old Ladys Advice / Home remedy by KreAture · · Score: 1

    In Norway these life hacks and other stuff is what would be categorized as "old ladys advice" or home remedys/advice and yes, common sense.
    My biggest irk is still the use of hack/hacker to depict someone buying a cheat of the net and using it in a game to gain an advantage.
    If someone were to use loaded dice at a casino we would all agree they are cheating. This even holds true for online casinos. Somehow if it's on a game it's hacking?
    Popular words become abused. Annoying words are forgotten. Let's revive a word and use that for game-cheaters: From now on I'll call any game-cheater for a twerker. I'll say they are twerking and let's see if I can make it catch.

  28. The author should be retired by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

    The word "hack" was always an insult translating to "sloppy and just barely working."

  29. Re:Basically any tech term is coopted by the publi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, people coopted this particular technical term hundreds of years ago in the context of cutting things. That must have really pissed off the early computer hackers of the period.

  30. It was originally an insult by cjonslashdot · · Score: 3, Informative

    The original usage was someone who "hacked" at something, instead of crafting it. It was pejorative. If someone was a "hack", they worked without thinking and didn't really know what they were doing, and a "hacker" was the same thing. Then TV shows and news reports came out glorifying this, and the meaning became congratulatory.

    1. Re:It was originally an insult by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The original usage was to describe something that was cut up roughly without care. Applying it to crafting something is a derivative of that.

    2. Re:It was originally an insult by cjonslashdot · · Score: 1

      Yes, exactly - to "hack" at something, until it works, rather than crafting it carefully. It implies incompetence.

  31. "Certified Ethical Hacker" " worst cert name ever by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    "Hacker" is not a technical term.

    The word "hack" has been used for all sorts of things: cab drivers, writers, prison guards - not to mention smokers and hacky-sack players.

  32. Author Should Be Retired by bursch-X · · Score: 1

    I think the author's a hack.

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    There are two rules for success:
    1. Never tell everything you know.
  33. Inflation, happens all the time by Baki · · Score: 2

    Most things lose their value because we get used to them.

    The more people exaggerate, using hyperboles and strong terms for nothing, the more those words will wear off.

    Being at home in multiple cultures and languages, I find it interesting to see the much faster "recycling" of words and phrases in english than, e.g., in german. Somehow, the english/US culture seems to be more geared towards "selling" (not always literally w.r.t. goods, but also in trying to convey ideas to the public at large) and advertisement.

    Thus, you see a fast inflation of the meaning of words in english, and a constant popping up of new words to recapture the original meaning of older words. It is kind of confusing and not very productive, IMHO.

    German, in contrast (note that I'm not a native german speaker, just my outside observation), has a much lower pace of new words, and the meaning of existing words seems to wear off not so fast. Probably just a result of a more conservative and reserved culture.

    Icelandic and finnish are even more conservative (as a language) and hardly have changed in the past 1000 years.

  34. Hack saw, hack away, hack up a lung by holophrastic · · Score: 2

    Last I checked, "hack" was far older than computers. Older, even, than ingenuity.
      https://www.etymonline.com/sea...
    https://www.etymonline.com/wor...

    chopping wood, coughing, routine work...

    Nice that 700 years later, computer criminals adopted it too. Not surprising that this particular word has finally made it back to its roots.

    Next you'll be saying that "gay" is suddenly being used to describe everyone who's happy. Wait for it.

  35. Here's a recent hack I learned... by andrewa · · Score: 1
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  36. Re: sudo make me by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    If you seldom use the su command, because you generally run your computer as root, does that make you a hack?

  37. Social engineering is definitely manipulation by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Manipulate:
    1. To manage or influence skillfully, especially in an unfair manner:
    to manipulate people's feelings.

    Social engineering, manipulating the human part of the system, is the first definition of "manipulate".

    Brute forcing very rarely works, so I wonder if you actually mean dictionary attacks. Sometimes people use these terms incorrectly :) A GOOD dictionary attack involves a bit of skill, including figuring out which potential passwords would be allowed by the system, what defense systems are in place, etc.

  38. No need to retire ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... because there's a qualifying context of use.

    TFS tells us nothing we haven't already known. Hack is a kind of saw; it's a severe cough, it's a chopping motion of an ax, it's a taxi, and it is a term for picking a computer lock.

    Tilting at windmills includes the misnomer "floppy," for a rigid disk.

    And, outside the confines of the Internet, what the fuck does "google it," even mean?

    Chill out and let it go.

    I have never had a problem with mixed-meanings regarding the word, "hack."

    Perhaps you should find a quiet place and see if you can come to terms with it.

    See what I did there.

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  39. Re: "Cuck" by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    Somebody copulated with Facebook's spouse, which Facebook is aware of and has done nothing about?

  40. Re:No, and that's the problem by wierd_w · · Score: 1

    As you rightly mentioned prior, anyone who uses a poorly defined boogey man to sell you on an idea, policy, or product-- is not someone that should ever be considered trustworthy.

    Typically, the sales reps for such services, lobbyists for such policies, or apostles of such products--- are completely and totally unable to tell you the finer details of exactly *HOW* that service, policy, or product is able to defend against their boogey man, because they rely on an inherently unspecific and ephemeral view held by the majority of persons to make their cases.

    You might ask (of the sales rep), "Yes, I know about heap randomization and the use of hypervisors to catch possible overflow based escalations and the like-- that's script-kiddy stuff, and while I am glad your product implements that, I am much more interested in how your product claims to be able to "stop hackers." As you may be aware, many modern processors have features that are now considered design flaws. Especially those centered around speculative execution as a means of improving branch prediction, and mitigating the risk of a cache miss as a performance enhancement, which has previously unconsidered behaviors that allow a clever individual to deduce enough information about a system, and do so reliably, that even with heap randomization and a hardware based hypervisor, they can gain consistent control of a stack to not only smash it, but also gain control of the hypervisor itself. What exactly does your product do to alleviate these newer vulnerabilities that allow these old methods to be used so much more aggressively, and with so much more potential risk, given that many production systems these days are virtual servers, and gaining control of the hardware hypervisor would give the attacker control over many, MANY production platforms?"

    The result will likely be a stupefied look, and a lot of stammering.

    This is because the sales rep is not a security expert. The sales rep is a SALES expert.

    Now, he could probably talk your ear off about clever things to do to trick people into buying a product they do not need, or talk shop about how their parent company makes unrealistic sales goals in the endless search for more money-- and may even hold some very insightful ideas about generalized human psychology that revolves around wants, and how to pitch products to make them seem to be able to satisfy those wants, regardless of what those wants actually are---- But actually answering a deep question about the product he is hawking? Outside his knowledge domain. His job is to sell you a product or service; to convince you to part with your money either right now, or on a contractually recurring basis-- and to do so as often as is possible.

    When you really consider that a modern corporate entity is not a moral actor of any kind, and is instead a very immoral actor held at financial gunpoint by a legal system to actually fulfill the promises it makes in exchange for money-- and that it does everything it possibly can to get the most money with the least actual delivery of promise-- you will be better able to see the situation. (or at least, see it the way I see it.)

    News organizations have long since stopped being about actually informing the public in a nominally efficient form-factor. Take a long hard look at say-- Fox News, (since it is so goddamn blatant..) and honestly tell me that they are trying to be informative, rather than seeking to make money by entertaining the existing biases of their viewers, with stories and "experts" that are cherry picked to do exactly that.

    Or, in the more mainstream internet--- That news organizations have not adopted similar tactics to use targeted big data techniques to promote news articles that you are likely to find more agreeable (EG, to "like"), so that you spend more time on their news site, generating ad impressions--- rather than giving everyone the same news experience, that has been tailored to be factually sound, and informative about topics of national or global int

  41. Word retirement process by saltydogdesign · · Score: 1

    I didn't know words could be retired. Is there a form somewhere for this? Do you have to pay a fee?

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  42. Hack as in slapped together unprofessionally ... by perpenso · · Score: 1

    You have to go down 14 definitions of "hack" to get to to this:
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    Computers.
    to modify a computer program or electronic device in a skillful or clever way: to hack around with HTML.
    to break into a network, computer, file, etc., usually with malicious intent.
    http://www.dictionary.com/brow... ----------

    Hacking may have been popularized to describe computer hacking, but it means MANY OTHER THINGS TOO.

    An older non-computer definition was applied to computers originally. "Hacking" was just slapping thing together in a shoddy unprofessional way, albeit often in an experimental way, an exploratory learning way, but sometimes slapped together shoddily, unprofessionally, for expediency, time constraints.

    "Hacked together" vs engineered.

  43. "Hack" redefined so many times it can be opposite by perpenso · · Score: 1

    I'm someone who grew up during the DOS era, and later Windows. I know EXACTLY what the "hack" computer slang means. It means what everyone at that period knew it meant, which is "break into a computer system that you're not authorized to access", it's that freaking simple.

    No. As someone from the Apple II era I can say that your definition is one of many redefinitions. In your era a "hack" could also mean an unsophisticated shoddy manner of doing something. Perhaps to save time on the job, perhaps because the person is poorly trained or unskilled, or perhaps because its a one time unimportant disposable effort so proper engineering practices are unnecessary.

    "Hack" has been redefined so many times it has evolved to where it can be the opposite of itself, both skilled and unskilled, sophisticated and unsophisticated, brilliant and crude, ... so yeah the word is kind of meaningless. It requires context or accompanying text to indicates what era's fashionable definition should be applied.

  44. I guess I did *real* hacking in the 80s ... by perpenso · · Score: 2

    The origin of 1 (noun and verb) is from "hack saw". The verb "hack" means literally to use the hack saw. It then was used to mean doing a simple ugly fix using the hack saw, a kludge,or a bodge.

    It seems I did some real hacking in the late 80s. I used a hacksaw to cut a hole into the side of my PC case so I could get the 80386 In Circuit Emulator plug and cabling to the CPU socket. I couldn't just leave the case open, it was my monitor stand. :-)

    We were on the same floor as the CEO. He wandered into my cube to find out what the hell that god-awlful noise was about, took one quick look, uttered "I'm not even going to ask why", turned around and left.

  45. Re:sudo make me by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1, Funny

    sudo make me a sandwich

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  46. Hmm ... maybe 70s ... by perpenso · · Score: 1

    On second thought the hacksaw notion sounds like a redefinition too. An earlier definition might refer to an axe rather than a hacksaw. Since I hacked away at some trees in the 70s I guess that was my first "hack". Definitely not a skillful job of felling those trees.

  47. Re:Sounds like “hacker vs cracker”, re by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    I used the straight double-quote on both sides; but iOS, in its infinite wisdom, probably did an automatic replacement.

    I could use less of Apple trying to be cute like that, and more of Apple paying attention to details - like overriding whomever the stupid fool was that thought randomly changing the size of the iOS space bar was a good idea.

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  48. Read Steven Levy's book by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    If what you're doing isn't written about in the 1984 book, you're not hacking. You're misappropriating other people's coolness and need to cut the crap.

  49. Brute force debugging? by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    Would brute force debugging be considered hacking?

    There are systematic ways of debugging problematic code or even a miss-wired circuit such as divide-and-conquer to isolate the location of a bug, doing a diff against a functioning earlier version, conducting tests to verify assertions and so on? Is it hacking when you keep testing the code with change A, change B, change C in the hope of fixing it?

    As in, "I am just hacking, I need to get up and walk around to clear my head and get back to working on this systematically?"

    I think of this as hacking in that one way to "hack" into a system is to probe known vulnerabilities systematically whereas another way is to just keep trying plausible simple passwords that people use?

    1. Re:Brute force debugging? by perpenso · · Score: 1

      Probably, I think such debugging is similar to the experimental/learning code I mentioned. One off, temporary, disposable code that does not warrant proper engineering.

  50. Re:Who the hack wrote this? by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    Some old journalistic hack!

  51. solution by sad_ · · Score: 1

    i have a great hack to hack all these invalid hacks of the work hack.
    simple, just hack the hack out of it, even a hacker could do it!

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  52. Re: sudo make me by s4m7 · · Score: 1

    The only root I use on my mayonnaise is horseradish. Which I guess is a bit of a food hack.

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  53. Soup Hack by ninjagin · · Score: 1

    Yesterday I hacked my lentil soup by drinking it straight from the bowl. I saved water resources and time by being able to consume the soup faster and not having to wash a spoon. Haxx0rRulz.

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  54. Misused by bryonschultz · · Score: 1

    The one that grates on me is when someone says "My iTunes account was hacked". No, it wasn't hacked, you had a simple password and someone exploited it.