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Senate Votes To Reinstate ZTE Ban That's Nearly Shut Down the Company (theverge.com)
The U.S. Senate has voted to reinstate a ban on ZTE that prevents the Chinese telecom company from buying U.S. components and using U.S. software. As The Verge notes, "it's still not clear if the reversal will make it into law: it has to clear a conference with the House, and then avoid a veto from President Trump, who advocated for cutting a deal that would lift the ban." From the report: ZTE was hit with the trade ban by the U.S. Commerce Department in April after failing to following through with a punishment for violating sanctions on Iran and North Korea. That ban essentially shut down ZTE, which relies on U.S. parts like Qualcomm processors. Shortly thereafter, Trump said he would cut a deal to revive the company, and a deal was reached -- with additional penalties that the department said were uniquely stringent -- earlier this month.
But senators on both sides of the aisle immediately threatened to stop the deal and reinstate the ban, citing ZTE as a national security risk. And ultimately, a bipartisan group worked to get legislation introduced. The Senate voted 85 to 10 in support of reinstating the ban. It was included as an amendment on the National Defense Authorization Act, a must-pass piece of legislation that has already moved through the House.
But senators on both sides of the aisle immediately threatened to stop the deal and reinstate the ban, citing ZTE as a national security risk. And ultimately, a bipartisan group worked to get legislation introduced. The Senate voted 85 to 10 in support of reinstating the ban. It was included as an amendment on the National Defense Authorization Act, a must-pass piece of legislation that has already moved through the House.
Obey the President. Anything but total fealty is treason.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Senate Votes To Reinstate ZTE Ban That's Nearly Shut Down the Company Beautiful job on the headline guys. Really great work there...
This fucking moron needs to figure out being President is more important than being a shady business slinger for his daughter's bauble brands. Lock the traitor up and throw away the keys.
The Council is worried about the economy heating up. Can they fire 500,000 from one of the smaller companies, Iike one of the electronics companies?
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So... our congress critters say that giving ZTE a virtual death sentence is well deserved, but when a large U.S. defense contractor was caught involved in human trafficking they got their government contracts suspended for maybe 6 months and then it was back to business as usual with them continuing to get billions in payments from the government. I guess ZTE didn't buy enough senators.
that prevents the Chinese telecom company from buying U.S. components and using U.S. software.
Can the U.S. prevent ZTE from using Linux? Is Linux considered U.S. software?
Yeah, they still haven't quite figured that out yet. They figured buying the President was good enough. I'd imagine that's how it works in China--you just have to buy the top person.
Personally, I think this is just a fig-leaf for the elections. "My opponent is campaigning against me by saying that I'm Donald Trump's water-boy. Well, I'm tough--I stood up to the President on this random issue." Of course, nothing will actually happen with this bill before the election. After the election, assuming the Senator gets re-elected, they'll just drop the whole thing...
Qualcomm sold the equipment to ZTE. They know punishing Qualcomm will give them thought of leaving. Punishing a buyer would be a risk to their shareholders. I bet right now, someone at Qualcomm is drawing up what it would take to leave the United States influence.
Don't confuse China and Russia.
I have no idea how much of the russian allegations are true, other than the fact a few of the smaller fish have indeed been caught doing naughty things.
But worst case and its all true, that doesn't mean china is implied here. Russia and china have very different agendas, and to some degree consider each other traditional foes (Particularly because some of the border issues where never really resolved)
Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
unless they do that then this is just political posturing so that reps in vulnerable districts don't take flak for saving Chinese jobs while American ones go overseas.
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I guess 4th grade was too hard for your tiny, tiny brain. Every time you post your mindless dribble it lowers the I.Q. of the entire Internet.
You got modded down, but your comment is spot on.
The left has been just relentlessly awful the past couple of weeks, and the bad part is that it'll only get worse as the midterms get closer.
Trump's son posts a picture enjoying father's day with his kid, and gets a torrent of insults. Trump's daughter shares a picture cuddling her infant son and triggers a tidal wave of hatred.
To believe some celebrities, the US is torturing children at the border right now! It's exactly the same as nazi concentration camps, young children are ripped (note: actual word used) from their mothers and held in cages by the hundreds!
If we could find a way to harness hatred we could run the entire country off of leftist ideals.
And make him veto this. It's the only way for you to gain any respect as a nation. Everyone thinks you're fucking shit.
Tell us about your struggles being white and priviledged.. go on.. it must have been so hard for you never going hungry.
P.S. The world thinks you're a total piece of dogshit for supporting your pussy-grabbing child molester of a President. The ENTIRE fucking world. Soak up that hate, you've earned it.
seriously, no one cares about Russia. Not anyone that matters anyway. Not the voters in the swing states who put Trump in the Whitehouse. The right wing corporate Dems seem to be pining their hopes on Russia for the Mid-Term elections so they don't have to give the working class any economic concessions to the working class. That's not gonna fly except in the districts they always win. Of course the people running those districts (Pelosi, Schumer, Manchin, etc) run the party, so they aren't worried. So long as the checks cash and they can bury their primary challengers in money.
I was hoping to see more movement on the primaries, but so far the corporate Dems won all the important races. Folks just don't show up to primaries. Or if they do they're right wingers anyway.
I've pointed this out before but it bears repeating (preventive meme): Steve Bannon is an absolute bastard but he said something clever once, which is that if the Dems keep ignoring the working class and running on bullshit nobody cares about instead of the f'ing economy then the Republicans were going to be in power for a 1000 years. A bunch of Dems complained about the Nazi reference; but it was bait for the SJWs. The ran off on a tangent while his party kept hammering the economy to victory. In the end they're selling us down the river, but at least they _say_ they're gonna do something. That's more than I could say for Hilary "Supported TPP until Bernie made her stop" Clinton.
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I think our dear orange leader should just switch his phone over to a ZTE to prove how great they are. Win win.
Please reinstate the ban.
This would give China the legal trigger - under national security grounds to make chips with equivalent functionality, and stop buying from America overpriced bits they can make themselves. Qualcomm has ever-greened and 'with a computer' patent abuse, but the Chinese have enough legal people to internally to review and find prior art, making things all legal and above board. If China wanted to get nasty, open source an FGPA blueprint, and helpful blogs listing the programmable instruction set that users can change.
Indeed China will have a #1 best seller phone to rival Apple is they can produce the worlds first secure opensource open hardware phone. Please give them that excuse.
what you're referring to is the right wing leadership of the Democratic party (Pelosi, Schumer & Manchin). These are economically right wing "Democrats" who road Bill Clinton's coatails into office and stayed there by selling out the American people to their corporate and big money masters. Same as the Republicans do.
The actual left is the Bernie Sanders and Justice Democrat wing of the party. They've been hammering away at Medicare for All, Living Wages, a New New Deal (google it) and ending the wars. You know, sound economic policy. The Corporate Democrats make pointless attacks on Trump & co because they can't attack Trump on issues or they'd lose their paychecks.
Leftism has nothing to do with hatred. But then neither does the right. It's _always_ about money. Even racism is just an excuse to look the other way from slavery.
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Damn, where are my stones, I mean, mod points?
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
I always thought the House of Orange is a Dutch legacy. Maybe it is time to change the name of New York back to Nieuw Amsterdam, add some curly gables and paint the White House orange.
Nah. You need to pay more attention to the news.
Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE
Trump helps sanctioned Chinese phone maker after China delivers a big loan to a Trump project
Fire one million.
1) Gather the family from the detention centers.
2) Put the whole family in their very own cage.
3) Toss the cage into the Rio Grande river.
4) Adios, amigos!
How is this not an abuse of procedure? Happens all the time for stuff not at all related and annoys me every time when I read about it, no matter what the issue.
that's the way they think now. Europe, Russia, Africa and Asia had better start developing their cooperation faster and lessen their dependency on America, because at this rate it's clear that the country thinks of you as enemies.
Boy how am i happy i am noy living in america under trump right now
Ah goddamn it, this presidency is a mess. Thanks for the heads up. I'm not American, so I miss a lot of these stories.
Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
If I were Trump I would just veto the bill, just to teach congres to stop this shitty sideloading of bills. There are no "must-pass" laws.
Where did the idea come from that preventing someone from "using 'our' software" was a thing that was even possible?
In his book "Dark Sun" Richard Rhodes quotes I. V. Kurchatov as saying "The most important thing that we learned from the Americans was that the atomic bomb was possible."
Knowledge is a highly infectious virus, and no amount of governmental attempts at control will do more than delay things. It's nice that companies want to make a fortune off a piece of software, especially a piece of software that was developed in thousands of different places for tens of thousands of different purposes. The long protracted and in my opinion idiotic SCO lawsuits should have demonstrated once and for all that patenting a general idea is a colossal waste of time.
In the 1980's, half a dozen small companies and more than a few individuals spent a year or two developing Unix clones from general principles. Western Electric considered it "their baby" and went to great lengths to protect it. Their corporate mind simply ignored the fact that the first versions of Unix were written by one person in a closet, and what one person was able to do, other people could - and did - also do.
Trying to stop the Chinese or the Russians from getting "our software" is just going to cause them to find some smartass programmer to do it all over again. Worse, such attempts will mean that a lot of similar and not-very-compatible versions will now circulate around and inevitably the consumer will pay in the end when stuff doesn't work quite the way they thought is should.
Somebody tell the Senate to stop tilting at windmills and worry about real problems instead of trying to prop up corporate moguls with a business plan that boils down to selling old products to deprived consumers for all eternity.
Don't take life too seriously; it isn't permanent.
I use dribble when it's drivel from a dribbling knuckle dragging moron. It carries a different freight than drivel, which is merely nonsense.
No. He ordered it be done, it is his responsiblitiy. "The buck stops here", remember? Where was all this "standing up for yourself" that you RWNJs kept bleating on about when nobody was blaming you? Gone as soon as someone started pointing out what you or your glorious leaders did.Then it's all "No, don't be mean to me, shut up, that's politically incorrect!".
And then look at the policies of Reagan (right wing) and Obama (left wing) and notice how the left is no where the right was. It's only the "extreme left" still on the left in the USA.
Oh the irony - when your supporting a policy that is seperating parents from children- who are only seeking the pursuit of life ,liberty and happiness.
Many economists consider Medicare for all to be sound economics. It is a broad debate with very few people on the "Everyone gets everything" and "Everyone on their own" wings. Few consider the current system of corporations based risk pools to be a good balance. Most settle on some sort of safety net. The debate is around where that net starts.
It is extremely beneficial for individuals to not worry about the financial burden of health issues (especially in the overpriced US). It frees up massive amounts of financial and labor capital that can be invested in various parts of the economy. It also brings up the most vulnerable and poorest members of society to a more equal footing and thus allows greater contribution from them.
The costs are negligible when you consider the spends on our global police force or ongoing domestic & foreign wars or various industrial subsidies or even food donations we give globally.
ahh yes the old "just because there are some rich white men at the top, we are all privledged", because looking similar to someone gives me access to what they have. Nevermind my hard work in STEM is consistently undermined with affirmative action in hiring, in being expected to do more work and get less flexibility from management and in promotions. Being a female engineer, now thats life on easy mode.
Please, China is ultimately no friend to "open source secure". If the Chinese need to clone yet another important tech using government dollars for national security (and I don't doubt that they might, should this ban go into effect), the resulting product would have plenty of backdoors for MSS. I don't see why the ZTE ban is worth crying so much blood over, especially with such a huge senate majority in favor.
And the destruction of global village, then significant inflation without matching economic increase - stagflation.
this is like when women call voluntary celibate men misogynists right? if you don't voluntarily trade with us, its terrorism, right? but not the other way around, that would be silly because reasons
They should pursuit life, liberty, and happiness legally. The US authorities did not rendition these families and children from Mexico. Everyone has a sob story they feel exempts them from following the existing immigration laws so they are the ones responsible for what happens to them and their children when the enter the US illegally.
FYI asylum seekers showing up at the border and asking for asylum have committed no crime At All.
Things to consider...
1) How hard is it for Iran or N. Korea to send someone to buy some ZTE phones. Doh?
"the ban prevents ZTE from using common Qualcomm processors, and certified Android devices with Google Mobile Services software."
Seriously, there are nearly 50 millions smartphones in Iran. NOTHING about this jeopardizes national security.
2) Even if they gave software code. I mean, come on, why would the likes of N. Korea with their super (if you believe the BS U.S. propaganda) programmers even need such. I mean, sure...you can buy into that if you really believe all these hacks blames on N. Korea as some outlandishlsy extreme only capable by a nation state with a mere 28 WEBSITES could be responsible.
Let's try not to be stupid, and let our political biases further our stupidity.
Major ZTE layoffs would be a huge hit to the Chinese economy. Interesting times...
No, no it wouldn't. If the products are profitable, the business and all the asserts with be bought up. Its only when unprofitable companies go under that any jobs are lost.
With corporate death penalties the only ones losing anything are shareholders of the offending company
They're not "asylum seekers" , they have not asked for asylum. They tried to sneak in, illegally.
What are they running from? You can't say their country is a shithole now, can you?
A small correction to your post:
FYI asylum seekers showing up at a port of entry and asking for asylum have committed no crime At All.
The cases people keep pushing to the media are for people illegally crossing the border and then claiming asylum when caught.
Previous admins use a "catch and release" system where they were given a court date and let go a very large number never showed up. This, as well as other 'kid friendly' policies led to exponential increases in people crossing with underage children or simply sending underage children across alone. It also led to a boost to human traffickers who could simply claim the child they were with was theirs and be let go.
Trump is simply choosing to enforce the law as written but as is the norm for immigration/border laws, nobody in congress ever expects their laws to be properly followed so they underfunded it leading to a lack of family housing units.
Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!
There's more than just this. Part of it is that China controls North Korea so they're using this as leverage there. Trademarks in China are... not overly valuable... after all. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he's still doing this to benefit himself too, but that's not the end of the calculation.
If asylum seekers need to go through a port of entry we must have arrested imprisoned and deported all those people escaping over under and around the Berlin Wall right?
What's that? we didn't do that because this "port of entry" requirement is bullshit.
Keep rationalizing it all away.
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You donâ(TM)t seem to understand that we are talking about the laws of the United States of America, not Germany.
Get a globe and a clue.
you fucking idiot, when has the berlin wall separated Mexico and the U.S.A.?
Be thankful.
Wow. That's even more corrupt than they claimed Hillary to supposedly be.
He's not even trying to hide his corruption. Worse yet, he's inviting his family to join in on it. What a total fucking money-grab.
Jun. 18, Juche 107 (2018) Monday
Kim Jong Un Sends Congratulations to Xi Jinping
Kim Jong Un, chairman of the Workers' Party of Korea and chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Friday sent a congratulatory letter and a floral basket to Xi Jinping, general secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China and president of the People's Republic of China, on his birthday.
Kim Jong Un in the letter extended the warmest congratulations and comradely greeting to Xi Jinping.
He noted that Xi Jinping, assuming the heavy responsibility as the top leader of the party, state and army, wisely led the struggle of the Communist Party of China and the Chinese people to achieve the great prosperity of China, and thus opened up a bright prospect of socialism with the Chinese characteristics in the new era and made positive contributions to promoting the international prestige of China and preserving global peace and security.
He highly appreciated that the successive significant meetings with Xi Jinping served as an important occasion in deepening the special comradely friendship and trust and more vigorously promoting the DPRK-China friendship, the strategic choice made by the two parties and the two countries, as required by the new era.
Stressing that it is the steadfast will of the party and people of the DPRK to set much store by the DPRK-China friendship forged with blood and strenuously strengthen and develop it, unfazed by change of situation and any challenge, he expressed belief that the invincible vitality and inexhaustible potentials of the DPRK-China friendship, the valuable asset of the two parties and the peoples of the two countries, will be more powerfully demonstrated in the future thanks to the joint efforts with Xi Jinping.
He sincerely wished Xi Jinping good health, bigger success in his responsible work and happiness of his family.
Political News Team
Does anybody have a ZTE device they can recommended that works with an open source Android and LTE band 13? 4GB of RAM and a decent screen would be nice. The lack of NSA implants will make up for a few shortfalls.
My God, it's Full of Source!
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Holy crap! Well said.
The USA spends more than any other country on healthcare and gets less for that money.
It's crazy to give an insurance company 100 dollars and get 70 dollars of healthcare back.
It's crazy that the CEO of United Healthcare makes 100 million a year and never so much as puts a band aid on an owwie.
There is so much propaganda from libertarians and corporate america against single payer because libertarians pretend there are no sick people and if there are it has no impact on the economy, and corporate America wants to keep a leash on their employees. I know dozens of people who only stay at a company for the healthcare.
Other countries have single payer and it gives their corporations a competitive advantage over the US.
It's insane, it's literally unhealthy, and the math is in favor of single payer.
You should be able to point out where in the US code it says that all asylum seekers must use a port of entry to claim asylum or face criminal charges.
Build the wall! Build the wall! Build the wall!
Bravo, though you shouldn't have wasted your time. Facts don't matter to these mouthbreathing knuckledraggers.
Trump loses again.
This so-called president is an utter moron with no insight, no understanding of our government, no curiosity, no compassion, no empathy, and not a shred of conscience. He's a perfect example of the heartless, soulless, sociopath that floats through society the same way a turd floats across a septic tank.
So living in Mexico is equivalent to living in East Germany? I'm sure the Mexican government would be delighted to hear that.
Let's cut to the chase here. None of these people are getting into the US legally. When they present themselves at a port of entry they will be told that being poor is not a justifiable cause for political asylum.
The Republican as shit for pretending that they would get in if they arrive at a port of entry.
Like wise the Democrats are shit for pretending they are asylum seekers. Poverty is not a legal cause to claim asylum.
Don't yell at me I didn't write the law. Don't like it? Tell Congress to change the law, don't tell DHS to ignore the law.
Under present law a Mexican citizen who's not a doctor, lawyer or physicist will wait seventy years to legally get into this country. The law is broken, but you don't fix that by breaking it.
Meanwhile both Dems amd Repubs are using the issue for poll numbers. Tell them its time to build the wall and change the immigration laws so that anyone who isn't a terrorist or a criminal can get in. Make it easy to kick people out who are convicted of crimes, but also make it easy for people who have jobs to stay.
This is only hard because both sides want to make political capital out of it, the hell with the people and what's good for the country.
The Deplorables don't have none of your "book lern'in" and fancy talk! Civics is just a car that don't do good on the racetrack!